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Video aside, it's pretty crazy how the life purpose of most creatures in existence is to become food for another creature. If we were created by some divine being, that's kinda messed up in itself.
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Is this much different than the real-life scene that was filmed for apocalypse now (1970's?) where they took that cow and hacked at over and over with a machete? I found that disturbing I don't need to watch this one.

The point being that I don't think this is a new thing or is a worsening of society per se. People have always been rotten to animals.

Americans are completely isolated from every aspect of meat processing so they can scream "those people!" because they don't witness it. I'd venture to say that during the course of it's life, a typical USA factory farmed animal is actually treated worse.
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Is this much different than the real-life scene that was filmed for apocalypse now (1970's?) where they took that cow and hacked at over and over with a machete? I found that disturbing I don't need to watch this one.

The point being that I don't think this is a new thing or is a worsening of society per se. People have always been rotten to animals.

Americans are completely isolated from every aspect of meat processing so they can scream "those people!" because they don't witness it. I'd venture to say that during the course of it's life, a typical USA factory farmed animal is actually treated worse.
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animals in a typical usa factory often cannot even walk around, they are kept in cages so small they cannot develop any muscles in their legs without artificial hormone injections and often atrophy in their enclosures.

Everyone knows the tyson chicken farm video, some know the iconic "meet your meat" video from the 70's.
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Video aside, it's pretty crazy how the life purpose of most creatures in existence is to become food for another creature. If we were created by some divine being, that's kinda messed up in itself.
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^^^^THIS^^^^^

Law of the jungle,

Most animals die, while being consumed by a predator.

That's got to be a shitty way to check out

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That's a shitty abattoir. They need a bolt machine at the very least. Man-strength and sledgehammer force is not accurate enough to cause a cow to expire. It's harder on the man than the cow, really. He will eventually pull a muscle and have to be on paid leave. Also, putting leather on that dirty floor is a health hazard later.

Sharp knives, that's a necessity.
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Unless you're a vegan stfu. You contribute this horror with every bite of any animal product you take. Fuking hypocrites sheeplebah
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No, YOU shut up. I've been a vegetarian all of my adult life and one thing I know is that you win anyone over with being judgmental and holier than thou. The goal is to stop animal suffering and to change hearts. People are conditioned to animal diets and some people go all in, at once, to not eating animals, but others do it gradually. ANY way that works for people to change is a change for the better, even if they start out getting rid of red meat, then fowl, then fish, etc. Insults and acting like you're superior will not change hearts so please stop and think before you drive people away. It's about the animals, not you.
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And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

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Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Steaks are so delicious. Especially after being rubbed with a good mix of steak spice. I first sear it on high (aftet the olive oil is boiling hot) for about 30 seconds, then flip it for another minute, but with the dial turned down to 7 because the pan is now burning hot. Then I turn down the heat to medium for about 10 minutes and wait for it to caramelize on that side. I then flip it again, sprinkle some more steak spice on it, wait about 3 minutes and voila. Great steak.

Better when it's grassfed beef though.
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That's a shitty abattoir. They need a bolt machine at the very least. Man-strength and sledgehammer force is not accurate enough to cause a cow to expire. It's harder on the man than the cow, really. He will eventually pull a muscle and have to be on paid leave. Also, putting leather on that dirty floor is a health hazard later.

Sharp knives, that's a necessity.
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They should stop shipping live cattle to Indonesia period!
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Oh and by the way. I plan on eating steak for the rest of my life, I'm even thinking of getting my hunting license. I know lots of people who love eating meat and I guarantee you will never win by having meat removed from our tables.

I suspect this anti-meat movement is a product of counter-intelligence because of exploding demographics. Not enough meat for everyone, so lets replace with with soy, food fillers, cheap sources of protein, etc...

I might be wrong but this is the first time in the history of mankind that anti-meat movements exist. Most people probably join the movement because they want to look cool by joining a holier than thou cause, while the real motivators are those that understand the true reasons: Exploding demographics and the reality of PEAK FOOD.
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NO live animals should be exported for slaughter ANYWHERE in Asia.

There is NO compassion or sensitivity to the animals pain and suffering. I have been to vietnam and china. They don't see or care how much pain they inflict on animals. Brutal beyond believe.

So glad Australia immediately stop the export of live cattle. Barbaric
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They've done it before (stopped live exportation) but once the commotion dies down in the media & people forget what is happening, they will tell the masses that Vietnam (or whatever Asian country has been caught being barbaric)have 'promised' to only kill the cattle in a humane way & exportation of live stock will commence.
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That's sad to hear. Hope this time someone establishes laws to prevent this from happening to any animals the country exports.
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this is what the god of the bible enjoys, animal sacrifices. God of the bible wants their blood smeared all over his holy altar. Their death makes him happy.
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BULLSHIT, nothing collapsed out of fear. Trying to use topic to justify lying. Fyuk Off
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Re: Horrific footage shows Australian cattle bludgeoned to death with sledgehammers in Vietnamese abattoir - one bull collapsing in fear
NO live animals should be exported for slaughter ANYWHERE in Asia.

There is NO compassion or sensitivity to the animals pain and suffering. I have been to vietnam and china. They don't see or care how much pain they inflict on animals. Brutal beyond believe.

So glad Australia immediately stop the export of live cattle. Barbaric
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They've done it before (stopped live exportation) but once the commotion dies down in the media & people forget what is happening, they will tell the masses that Vietnam (or whatever Asian country has been caught being barbaric)have 'promised' to only kill the cattle in a humane way & exportation of live stock will commence.
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That's sad to hear. Hope this time someone establishes laws to prevent this from happening to any animals the country exports.
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All live animals export is cruel and should be stopped. They are crammed like sardines on the ship and several die on the way.
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The last time we stopped live export of cattle to Indonesia, because of animal cruelty.
Indonesian abattoirs lost a lot of money, and the people responsible for the animal cruelty were viciously beaten and their wives were raped.
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Are you bullshiting? Lost money maybe, but viciously beaten and wives raped? Any link to support your claim?
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NO live animals should be exported for slaughter ANYWHERE in Asia.

There is NO compassion or sensitivity to the animals pain and suffering. I have been to vietnam and china. They don't see or care how much pain they inflict on animals. Brutal beyond believe.

So glad Australia immediately stop the export of live cattle. Barbaric
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They've done it before (stopped live exportation) but once the commotion dies down in the media & people forget what is happening, they will tell the masses that Vietnam (or whatever Asian country has been caught being barbaric)have 'promised' to only kill the cattle in a humane way & exportation of live stock will commence.
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That's sad to hear. Hope this time someone establishes laws to prevent this from happening to any animals the country exports.
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All live animals export is cruel and should be stopped. They are crammed like sardines on the ship and several die on the way.
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I agree.
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another reason why mixing with other races is not such a good thing. although we are all humans. we all don't see eye to eye.
nor do we think the same.....at all !

only an idiot thinks otherwise.

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Yup...
Fuckin A.. I have people. Bring on the nukes. I don't even care.
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Yeah, you hate people, but you love Trump, right? Other people bludgeoning a cow to death is unacceptable but the bankrupt Trump steak using those budgeoned meat is a heaven sent blessing, right? Double standard hypocrites, all you Trumpbots.
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this is what the god of the bible enjoys, animal sacrifices. God of the bible wants their blood smeared all over his holy altar. Their death makes him happy.
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That's an ignorant statement right there. If you KNEW what tbe Bible said, you would know that in the beginning, animals were off limits as a food source. Man was allowed to eat plant life only. After Adam and Eve sinned and Abel killed his brother and pilled human blood, then God gave them the right to kill animals. I won't go into more details but that's about how it goes. And blood spilled requires a blood sacrifice in the Bible's Old Testament. If men didn't spill blood and sinned in the first place, then no blood sacrifice would have been needed.
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It's shit like this is why I've gone vegetarian.
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same here.
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You obviously haven't seen the mistreatment of vegetables at harvest time.

Think they don't feel pain???!!!!





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oMg.. this is horrible, how many ears have been ripped from their stalks to 'feed' our gluttonous appetites for 'veggies.'

Please tell me there's a 'vegetable' support group out there somewhere advocating against this senselessness.. maybe we should start an awareness group.?

At this point even a 'like' button would be enough just to show our solidarity for 'abused' potatoes everywhere. blink
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They've done it before (stopped live exportation) but once the commotion dies down in the media & people forget what is happening, they will tell the masses that Vietnam (or whatever Asian country has been caught being barbaric)have 'promised' to only kill the cattle in a humane way & exportation of live stock will commence.
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That's sad to hear. Hope this time someone establishes laws to prevent this from happening to any animals the country exports.
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All live animals export is cruel and should be stopped. They are crammed like sardines on the ship and several die on the way.
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I agree.
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I don't agree. It's cruel on a human perspective, but you don't see cattle organizing a revolt or voicing complaints to the supreme court do you? They don't know or have a conscience. It's only cruel because humans say it's cruel. It would be cruel of course if humans were crammed on a boat, but we're talking about cattle here.

STOP HUMANIZING ANIMALS.
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That's sad to hear. Hope this time someone establishes laws to prevent this from happening to any animals the country exports.
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All live animals export is cruel and should be stopped. They are crammed like sardines on the ship and several die on the way.
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I agree.
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I don't agree. It's cruel on a human perspective, but you don't see cattle organizing a revolt or voicing complaints to the supreme court do you? They don't know or have a conscience. It's only cruel because humans say it's cruel. It would be cruel of course if humans were crammed on a boat, but we're talking about cattle here.

STOP HUMANIZING ANIMALS.
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What's your rationale for shipping live animals to any country?
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The .22 to the brain is the most humane or the air gun that basically does the same thing, just a pop and they are done...death by hammer is brutal...but any time a squish tactic is used it's going to be ugly.
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Oh and by the way. I plan on eating steak for the rest of my life, I'm even thinking of getting my hunting license. I know lots of people who love eating meat and I guarantee you will never win by having meat removed from our tables.

I suspect this anti-meat movement is a product of counter-intelligence because of exploding demographics. Not enough meat for everyone, so lets replace with with soy, food fillers, cheap sources of protein, etc...

I might be wrong but this is the first time in the history of mankind that anti-meat movements exist. Most people probably join the movement because they want to look cool by joining a holier than thou cause, while the real motivators are those that understand the true reasons: Exploding demographics and the reality of PEAK FOOD.
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No one is trying to take away your meat dude... but a sign that someone's position is cemented to the point of retardation is when you can't simply say "it is inappropriate for people to be repeatedly smashing an animal's head in with a sledgehammer." or "it is inappropriate to keep an animal locked in a cage with no wiggle room for it's entire life."

it is analogous to a pro-abortion person being cemented into the position of advocating abortions at 9 months - 1 day.

Militant weirdos of all stripes are so frightened of losing grip of an issue that they won't concede even basic points that should be agreed upon by all moral people. The positions are untenable and make them look stupid.

But I do agree with you that with the coming deflation/depression meat will be an absolute luxury - there is no doubt about that, You aren't going to be able to afford it anymore. people used to have meat once a week, like a roast on sunday. The typical american diet includes it 21 times a week washed down with high fructose corn syrup - it is a total disaster.
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All live animals export is cruel and should be stopped. They are crammed like sardines on the ship and several die on the way.
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I agree.
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I don't agree. It's cruel on a human perspective, but you don't see cattle organizing a revolt or voicing complaints to the supreme court do you? They don't know or have a conscience. It's only cruel because humans say it's cruel. It would be cruel of course if humans were crammed on a boat, but we're talking about cattle here.

STOP HUMANIZING ANIMALS.
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What's your rationale for shipping live animals to any country?
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I don't ship animals to other countries. You should ask that question to the person who does. But nice try though.
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All live animals export is cruel and should be stopped. They are crammed like sardines on the ship and several die on the way.
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I agree.
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I don't agree. It's cruel on a human perspective, but you don't see cattle organizing a revolt or voicing complaints to the supreme court do you? They don't know or have a conscience. It's only cruel because humans say it's cruel. It would be cruel of course if humans were crammed on a boat, but we're talking about cattle here.

STOP HUMANIZING ANIMALS.
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What's your rationale for shipping live animals to any country?
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Its not "shipping", you are selling the animals to someone, like if you sell a Kitten or Puppy.
The buyer is the one who "ships" them.
And the Buyer is the one who is responsible for how they are treated.
So take it up with the "current owner" of the animals.
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I agree.
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I don't agree. It's cruel on a human perspective, but you don't see cattle organizing a revolt or voicing complaints to the supreme court do you? They don't know or have a conscience. It's only cruel because humans say it's cruel. It would be cruel of course if humans were crammed on a boat, but we're talking about cattle here.

STOP HUMANIZING ANIMALS.
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What's your rationale for shipping live animals to any country?
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I don't ship animals to other countries. You should ask that question to the person who does. But nice try though.
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How does it matter if its another country or down the road?
If the person you sell the animal to, is cruel to it, then how is it not the fault of them? Take it up with them according to the law.
This absurd logic needs to stop.
The fact is these animal rights activists don't give a shit about animals.
They just use this as an excuse to try to attack capitalism because they are Marxist lunatics.
They wont attack Vietnam because they are Commies, they wont attack China because they are Commies.
Yet they are the ones doing the cruelty.
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it's pretty crazy how the life purpose of most creatures in existence is to become food for another creature.
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How is that crazy? The life purpose of FISH is to be eaten by a Dolphin? The life purpose of a Deer is to be eaten by a Bear? Life purpose of a Gazelle is to be eaten by a Lion?
What is wrong with you peoples brains? Why do you separate Humans from the wild? You have been genetically fucked up.
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Oh and by the way. I plan on eating steak for the rest of my life, I'm even thinking of getting my hunting license. I know lots of people who love eating meat and I guarantee you will never win by having meat removed from our tables.

I suspect this anti-meat movement is a product of counter-intelligence because of exploding demographics. Not enough meat for everyone, so lets replace with with soy, food fillers, cheap sources of protein, etc...

I might be wrong but this is the first time in the history of mankind that anti-meat movements exist. Most people probably join the movement because they want to look cool by joining a holier than thou cause, while the real motivators are those that understand the true reasons: Exploding demographics and the reality of PEAK FOOD.
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No one is trying to take away your meat dude... but a sign that someone's position is cemented to the point of retardation is when you can't simply say "it is inappropriate for people to be repeatedly smashing an animal's head in with a sledgehammer." or "it is inappropriate to keep an animal locked in a cage with no wiggle room for it's entire life."

it is analogous to a pro-abortion person being cemented into the position of advocating abortions at 9 months - 1 day.

Militant weirdos of all stripes are so frightened of losing grip of an issue that they won't concede even basic points that should be agreed upon by all moral people. The positions are untenable and make them look stupid.

But I do agree with you that with the coming deflation/depression meat will be an absolute luxury - there is no doubt about that, You aren't going to be able to afford it anymore. people used to have meat once a week, like a roast on sunday. The typical american diet includes it 21 times a week washed down with high fructose corn syrup - it is a total disaster.
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I agree that displays of unecessary violence towards animals are wrong, because they can traumatize people witnessing them. Not because they traumatize animals, but because they traumatize people. That's the issue here. A cow didn't write this post, a person did. Cows don't care, and don't remember, if they did they would have mounted a revolt by now. If a human had the same brain capacity as cattle, they would be treated for dementia. And people with dementia are aware of very little, even abuse, so how can we humanize animals? Because of their cute eyelids? The sound of their moos? We have dominion over animals. We dominate them. They are not our equals. That being said, we have to act responsibly and manage our food sources reasonably, and when you have 7 billion mouths to feed, sometimes you don't have a choice but to cram cattle in a tight space. The solution to this? Stop buying cheap imported meat, only buy local grassfed beef, but be ready to dish out your cash, unless you plan on buying wholesale and freeze it. If I were to kill an animal, I would do it quick and painless, not because I care about hurting the animal, but because violence is a necessary evil and it must be done quickly. Participating in repeated acts of senseless violence can desensitize humans and make the more accepting of violence towards other humans.

But I still like eating meat, but I do it with respect for the animal. I think vegans go to far, posting these imflammatory videos in the hopes of turning people away from meat.
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Also how do you think animals are killed on a farm? Where they can't afford bullets?
They get bashed in the head until they are dead.
Then their throat cut.
Is this worse than a Lion eating a Deer alive? Oh wait that is natural right?
Aboriginals here spear animals to death, they use Boomerangs which bash them in the head(don't kill them).
Then they stab them to death or bash their heads in.
Unnatural again is it?
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Americans aborted like 3 million babies. No outrage at all.





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