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Do the 144,000 who went to heaven rule as kings with Jesus or,...... serve as kings?

 
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"And I saw thrones, and there were those who sat down on them, and power of judging was given them. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed with the ax for the witness they bore to Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had worshiped neither the wild beast nor its image and who had not received the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years." Rv20

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And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years.

5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years." Rv20

Coming to Life means being born of the Spirit ruling with Christ within them now,(1st resurrection) the heart of Christ consciousness.. consecrated ones having the seal of God written on their foreheads now.

Everyone is already dead till they do.
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In my Father's house are many rooms...
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And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years.

5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.

6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years." Rv20

Coming to Life means being born of the Spirit ruling with Christ within them now,(1st resurrection) the heart of Christ consciousness.. consecrated ones having the seal of God written on their foreheads now.

Everyone is already dead till they do.
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Actually the phrase 'come to life' applies the the second resurrection, and means they're not pronounced saved until they prove loyal against Satan's final attack at the end of the 1,000 years.
"Now as soon as the thousand years have been ended, Satan will be let loose out of his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them. 10 And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet [already were]; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." Rv20:7

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Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority,

satan cannot attack them. They are sealed with the seal of God and their names are in the Book of Life Now.
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the right one walked out of the door, the devil left my body.


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all those in religions have the mark of the beast...still
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all those in religions have the mark of the beast...still
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"And I saw thrones, and there were those who sat down on them, and power of judging was given them. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed with the ax for the witness they bore to Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had worshiped neither the wild beast nor its image and who had not received the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years." Rv20
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Yahweh is King, not Jesus.

They serve as kings because they preach the true gospel while others believe and preach lies.

They will set the way for the new society to begin after Yahweh makes his return.

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Last I checked, nobody has resurrected. Caskets are full. Leave the tomato plants out!

In fact. God is probably an early invention of the stork.

When kids ask where babies came from they needed a good answer answer.
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believes this but not science.
LMAO
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believes this but not science.
LMAO
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Pink Floyd?!?!?!-pffft! poseurs crying about 'how hard it is to be rich'


my heart BLEEDS for them
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believes this but not science.
LMAO
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We believe in science. It's just the study of God's design and real Christians don't fear science they love it.
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"And I saw thrones, and there were those who sat down on them, and power of judging was given them. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed with the ax for the witness they bore to Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had worshiped neither the wild beast nor its image and who had not received the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years." Rv20
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The 144,000 go to Mount sion (zion) in the kingdom of Heaven when the 7th seal is open.

What this portion of the bible is talking about is the church of Smyrna who did not have the Holy Spirit (no crown) let alone the Holy Spirit GOLD and go to tribulation and prison. They are executed for their faith and this is their reward.

You're asking where the others go who earn the GOLD seal of the Holy Spirit before or during tribulation? Kingdom of Heaven; we are really these things (priests) now, that's Melchizedek with the Holy Spirit. My understanding is that we go home, home being the place from which we originally came from having earned our freedom and learned our lesson.

It's hard to explain these things but those that wake up basically are in the wilderness until they fall into hell or rise into heaven. There is interaction with the "sleeping" world but it is not necessarily 1:1 because of the amount of interference going on in the "sleeping" world. They remember some things but not everything; you'll have a lengthy conversation with a guy one day and he won't know who you are the next day; things like that. You aren't actually having a conversation with the guy you are having a conversation with whoever is using him as a host.
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144,000-thats about the number of street cleaners and gardeners the kingdom of Heaven will need
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believes this but not science.
LMAO
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We believe in science. It's just the study of God's design and real Christians don't fear science they love it.
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Right how else could divine design be recognized?
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Maybe he found a better solution to Satan's reign of terror but forgot to share it? He sure has good taste in bikes anyway.

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I am not stopping till all mankind picks up their Crown.

Afterall, No one can serve two masters.
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Let the Lord decide, stop trying to game the Lord. hf
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Let the Lord decide, stop trying to game the Lord. hf
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It was decided in the beginning, when God created Man in his image.

Take responsibility for what you believe, or remain in perpetual bondage.
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actually the four and twenty elders are the ones with crowns who cast them down to the throne of the lamb, so i doubt the 144000 are kings
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144,000-thats about the number of street cleaners and gardeners the kingdom of Heaven will need
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this, or it could be because of their unwavering loyalty and discipline, the Lamb makes them his secret police, like the FBI, KGB, SS, etc. don't be surprised if blasphemers, skeptics and those who mock the King of the King, go missing or end up in work camps.
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actually the four and twenty elders are the ones with crowns who cast them down to the throne of the lamb, so i doubt the 144000 are kings
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As many as refuse to pick up their Crown are they who have cast them down before me.
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Ask yourself why you refuse your Crown.

To whom are you in bondage?
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actually the four and twenty elders are the ones with crowns who cast them down to the throne of the lamb, so i doubt the 144000 are kings
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As many as refuse to pick up their Crown are they who have cast them down before me.
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the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say, "You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being." rev 4:10-11

we all know there are 24 elders, so 24 crowns, can you explain your reply better?
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Ask yourself why you refuse your Crown.

To whom are you in bondage?
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it's obviously a sign of respect, they are not refusing their crown, they are offering it. what is a better offering, your eternal crown? or your kosher jar of delicious vlassic pickles?
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actually the four and twenty elders are the ones with crowns who cast them down to the throne of the lamb, so i doubt the 144000 are kings
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As many as refuse to pick up their Crown are they who have cast them down before me.
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the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say, "You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being." rev 4:10-11

we all know there are 24 elders, so 24 crowns, can you explain your reply better?
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If you are an elder, say Aye, and let us count the number that speak.





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