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Ultimate, Must Watch, Smoking Gun Proof of Pulse Hoax!!

 
Sobriquet™  (OP)

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In the interview parts of the video, the audio level is too low, and audio is only in one channel.

Why do that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72353098


Why ask why?
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Nobody knows why

Why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67896186


lol

Why what?

My speakers go left, right and the stereo on YouTube vids once in a while.

Editing and recording. It's so........why?
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Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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The facts? Please do tell me the facts.

I can't wait.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


I guess you must not have read the attached post. You know you are a NSA stooge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72284769


What attached post?

Yeah, I'm a deeply planted NSA asset. Secretly waiting for just the right time to expose....the government's involvement in a HOAX!


Good one! I can't believe I don't just delete imbeciles like you but you do make me laugh. So there's that.

lol
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You are not smart enough to figure out how to delete.
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Am too.

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Government...
Govern: CONTROL
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CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL

The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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5 Stars. This video is well worth the time spent. It proves that this is another hoax filled with lousy crisis actors who didn't earn their pay. There is no doubt in my mind after seeing the excellent floor plan renderings that Patience is a god damn liar for sure. These people that are involved in these fake terror ops have a special place in hell reserved for them.

Thanks for this vid Op.

ps:- All you shills on this thread can go to hell!
 Quoting: Iron Sight


Thanks Iron Sight. The video was well presented in every way.

And don't worry. The shills will meet their maker one day and then they will realize that a little money really wasn't worth losing their eternal souls over.

lake_o_fire
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clappa
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Things do happen that tptb have absolutely no control over. So what do they do when an incident happens that does not fit their narrative? They take control of it, of course.

Never let a crisis go to waste. Although, I am sure that they would have preferred a Christian wearing a red ball cap with a slogan on it to be the shooter. That is the way that they would have set it up. Would they have picked an Afghani to shoot gays? Uhhh, i dont think so. Nevertheless, they have to take back the narrative and make it a controlled and scripted situation, lest anyone gets funny ideas. And they have rebounded quite nicely!

Have you noticed how they sometimes take control of a leaked story on the internet? A story gets out that they want to squash and all they have to do is produce a smoking gun that appears to legitimize the story. Then once everyone has seen the smoking gun, it is then revealed as a fake. What happens next is that everyone walks away thinking the whole story was fake. Things are not always that simple.

Conspiracy forums are obviously targeted for misdirection. Did you think they would leave us alone and not try to mess with our minds? Of course not. Did you ever wonder why Sandy Hook was so fake? I have. I thought maybe it was meant for us to uncover so that they would gain control of all information and directions it would lead to. Something happens that validates a discussed conspiracy, then what better way to discredit and shut the mouths of those who are seeking the truth then to send them on a wild goose chase.

Remember, they operate on more than one cylinder, and they do have different control methods for different groups. They are not stupid enough to think one size fits all. The people they want to shut up and shut down are people like the ones here. Of course they will forever mess with your minds and make you doubt everything. That's what they do.

Thing aren't always black and white. The most clever psychos mix a little truth in with their lies.

Just my thoughts. I hope it made sense. I do think there have been hoaxes, but this wasn't one. This made the current administration nervous and put them in a difficult situation. Too bad they do not have full control of us humans yet. Not even those groups that they use and manipulate to their own ends.


rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9416702


See, you're actually thinking rationally. Many people from Orlando and surrounding areas know people died. We may be getting a false narrative, but it pains my heart for armchair sleuths to call a death fake when it hits close to home, or for me, my former home. There is something fishy about this, but this isn't it.
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I hope that in the name of "truth" that people do not allow their empathy to be socially engineered right out of themselves. Not everything is virtual reality, and scripts can be written to take back control.

Correction: Scripts WILL be written to take back control. That is pretty much a given, at this point.

I do it would be to tptb's benefit is people lose empathy. I have often wondered about the realistic, bloody drills that schoolchildren have been put through.

Is it so that when the real thing happens and someone is bleeding in front of them, kids will point, laugh and say they know it's fake?
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Things do happen that tptb have absolutely no control over. So what do they do when an incident happens that does not fit their narrative? They take control of it, of course.

Never let a crisis go to waste. Although, I am sure that they would have preferred a Christian wearing a red ball cap with a slogan on it to be the shooter. That is the way that they would have set it up. Would they have picked an Afghani to shoot gays? Uhhh, i dont think so. Nevertheless, they have to take back the narrative and make it a controlled and scripted situation, lest anyone gets funny ideas. And they have rebounded quite nicely!

Have you noticed how they sometimes take control of a leaked story on the internet? A story gets out that they want to squash and all they have to do is produce a smoking gun that appears to legitimize the story. Then once everyone has seen the smoking gun, it is then revealed as a fake. What happens next is that everyone walks away thinking the whole story was fake. Things are not always that simple.

Conspiracy forums are obviously targeted for misdirection. Did you think they would leave us alone and not try to mess with our minds? Of course not. Did you ever wonder why Sandy Hook was so fake? I have. I thought maybe it was meant for us to uncover so that they would gain control of all information and directions it would lead to. Something happens that validates a discussed conspiracy, then what better way to discredit and shut the mouths of those who are seeking the truth then to send them on a wild goose chase.

Remember, they operate on more than one cylinder, and they do have different control methods for different groups. They are not stupid enough to think one size fits all. The people they want to shut up and shut down are people like the ones here. Of course they will forever mess with your minds and make you doubt everything. That's what they do.

Thing aren't always black and white. The most clever psychos mix a little truth in with their lies.

Just my thoughts. I hope it made sense. I do think there have been hoaxes, but this wasn't one. This made the current administration nervous and put them in a difficult situation. Too bad they do not have full control of us humans yet. Not even those groups that they use and manipulate to their own ends.


rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9416702


See, you're actually thinking rationally. Many people from Orlando and surrounding areas know people died. We may be getting a false narrative, but it pains my heart for armchair sleuths to call a death fake when it hits close to home, or for me, my former home. There is something fishy about this, but this isn't it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71360827


STFU with your drama and gaslighting. How much are you getting from gofundme?

Prove you lived there.
Prove you knew this "Amanda"
Prove how you knew other than some bullshit it was an uncle, cousin, grandma.
Prove it was by blood or marriage.
Prove she was in the club shot or trampled without a pulse.
Prove who she was with.
Provide the obituary.

If you were on the witness stand you would fucking fail in providing proof beyond a reasonable doubt you know this person and she died at the scene.

Take your crocodile tears you're using to the upcoming demolition in memory of your alleged relative with flowers to lay. The family is missing you so far away in their time of need and support. Yet, you're here trying to convince with zero proof. Lying $hill.
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Re: Ultimate, Must Watch, Smoking Gun Proof of Pulse Hoax!!
California currency exchanges just started accepting Afghani unit this week
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Grab some popcorn. Sit back and relax for a riveting presentation that proves beyond all doubt that Patience Carter and "Orlando" are liars. If they are lying then everyone is lying.

There's big money in hoaxes and this whole thing is one big LIE!

Nobody died and nobody was hurt.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


The first person to comment should be in at least 29 minutes.

Except of course for the One Star Bandit and shills that will never be able to debunk this.

lol
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bump for watch later
(looks well thought out--thank you)
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It is less than 29 minutes for me...

Because I could not get through the first 10 minutes.

Maybe the rest of the 19 minutes is good - but the narrator takes WAY too long to explain things.

I make videos every day for a living.

They go viral because they get right to the point. Two to three minutes a video - any more risks losing viewers.

With that said, the video promises to conclude that Orlando is a hoax. I agree 100%. I just wish the video took a fraction of the time to explain it.

The narrators should study Casey Neistat's videos - he is able to tell a story in a lot less time.

Bump for truth!

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72211369


You lasted 10 minutes?

You're more patient than I am!
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Things do happen that tptb have absolutely no control over. So what do they do when an incident happens that does not fit their narrative? They take control of it, of course.

Never let a crisis go to waste. Although, I am sure that they would have preferred a Christian wearing a red ball cap with a slogan on it to be the shooter. That is the way that they would have set it up. Would they have picked an Afghani to shoot gays? Uhhh, i dont think so. Nevertheless, they have to take back the narrative and make it a controlled and scripted situation, lest anyone gets funny ideas. And they have rebounded quite nicely!

Have you noticed how they sometimes take control of a leaked story on the internet? A story gets out that they want to squash and all they have to do is produce a smoking gun that appears to legitimize the story. Then once everyone has seen the smoking gun, it is then revealed as a fake. What happens next is that everyone walks away thinking the whole story was fake. Things are not always that simple.

Conspiracy forums are obviously targeted for misdirection. Did you think they would leave us alone and not try to mess with our minds? Of course not. Did you ever wonder why Sandy Hook was so fake? I have. I thought maybe it was meant for us to uncover so that they would gain control of all information and directions it would lead to. Something happens that validates a discussed conspiracy, then what better way to discredit and shut the mouths of those who are seeking the truth then to send them on a wild goose chase.

Remember, they operate on more than one cylinder, and they do have different control methods for different groups. They are not stupid enough to think one size fits all. The people they want to shut up and shut down are people like the ones here. Of course they will forever mess with your minds and make you doubt everything. That's what they do.

Thing aren't always black and white. The most clever psychos mix a little truth in with their lies.

Just my thoughts. I hope it made sense. I do think there have been hoaxes, but this wasn't one. This made the current administration nervous and put them in a difficult situation. Too bad they do not have full control of us humans yet. Not even those groups that they use and manipulate to their own ends.


rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9416702


See, you're actually thinking rationally. Many people from Orlando and surrounding areas know people died. We may be getting a false narrative, but it pains my heart for armchair sleuths to call a death fake when it hits close to home, or for me, my former home. There is something fishy about this, but this isn't it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71360827


I hope that in the name of "truth" that people do not allow their empathy to be socially engineered right out of themselves. Not everything is virtual reality, and scripts can be written to take back control.

Correction: Scripts WILL be written to take back control. That is pretty much a given, at this point.

I do it would be to tptb's benefit is people lose empathy. I have often wondered about the realistic, bloody drills that schoolchildren have been put through.

Is it so that when the real thing happens and someone is bleeding in front of them, kids will point, laugh and say they know it's fake?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9416702


I guess my question to the Portugal troll scared him away. So I'll ask you since you seem to think that I have no empathy. Or at least that's how I'm reading it.

Did they use crisis actors? Did they use actors at all?

I'll wait for your reply.
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Yes sobriquet, they do. I have said as much.

I will ask you a question.

Why do mock bloody drills with crisis actors and not let even the teachers know it is fake until it is over. Why do that?

Why not do it the old fashioned way? Schedule the drill, give the heads up, then walk and train through?
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OP you answer me this. If you really believe this is all bullshit or you going to do anything about it? that is other than posting videos?
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It is less than 29 minutes for me...

Because I could not get through the first 10 minutes.

Maybe the rest of the 19 minutes is good - but the narrator takes WAY too long to explain things.

I make videos every day for a living.

They go viral because they get right to the point. Two to three minutes a video - any more risks losing viewers.

With that said, the video promises to conclude that Orlando is a hoax. I agree 100%. I just wish the video took a fraction of the time to explain it.

The narrators should study Casey Neistat's videos - he is able to tell a story in a lot less time.

Bump for truth!

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72211369


You lasted 10 minutes?

You're more patient than I am!
 Quoting: scottfree


But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. - Romans 8:25
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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I'm originally from the neighboring city of Lakeland, FL. I can confirm that a friend of mine attended Amanda Alvear's funeral, as he was friends with her brother. To say that her funeral was faked is cold and heartless.
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I keep seeing possts like this all over -- without any proof or evidence, and this case, a guy from Portugal or a proxy.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


Yep. They can never debunk but they sure can distract.

The Portugal shill said he was going away but he came back. He just can't resist making another nickel. It all adds up I guess.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


So anyone who doesn't subscribe to your particular theory is instantly a government shill? I said multiple times I know something is fishy about this story, but only that I can attest that I know of a confirmed funeral in my hometown. You'd think I'd pick a better cover than Portugal if I were a shill. There are contrary opinions out there, get used to it. You sound paranoid when you start throwing around government shill. You asked about my move to Portugal and laughed about it. I have my personal reasons, but you did not earn the respect to know more with that response. Horrible economy here, yes, but a heck of a lot safer. I work freelance from home anyways, so it doesn't affect me as much. I don't agree with the gay club lifestyle, but am stil hurt to hear of bloodshed. We're all on our separate journeys of life and we never know when others will find the true love of Christ. But Jesus does not rely on the power of persuasive wprds, but the power of changing hearts. We can only plant seeds, but a person's heart must truly be opened to grow.

It really is late here. Need to get to bed for real. I guess I care too much about what random people say on the internet. If you're genuinely seeking to uncover the truth, may God's love guide your path. I've been a GLP reader for years, not a participant really. I know the coldness and disconnect that grows in a heart that becomes too engrossed with "conspiracy theories". I've had to back off some and rediscover love. I am still back looking for answers occasionally.

But sincerely God Bless you on your journey. It's a cold, cold world.
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Yes sobriquet, they do. I have said as much.

I will ask you a question.

Why do mock bloody drills with crisis actors and not let even the teachers know it is fake until it is over. Why do that?

Why not do it the old fashioned way? Schedule the drill, give the heads up, then walk and train through?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9416702


What makes you think that everybody was oblivious to the fact that they were performing?

Your question makes no sense.

It was all fake because there's no way the actors would act knowing that people were really going to die. But they will keep their mouths shut if they want that monthly check.
Government...
Govern: CONTROL
Ment: MIND
CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL

The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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All those "personal stories"... The survivors supposedly just went through a major traumatic event..not one of them had any difficulty taking about it?

The girl, Patience, said that some other person shielded her to save her from the gun shot...and not one hiccup or tear for the person who sacrificed themselves? And she says "whoever that person was, if they're watching from above, thank you" yet she doesn't even know the persons name? Or gender?

All three "victims" talked like they were telling a memorized story. No emotion. No difficulty. No post-traumatic stress.

Anybody who has experienced a flipping mugging will re-tell the story while having a break-down. It's very difficult to re-live an event that puts a persons life on the line.

No one even had a scratched voice or tone waver.

What bullshit
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OP you answer me this. If you really believe this is all bullshit or you going to do anything about it? that is other than posting videos?
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The only thing I can do is wake people up. I'm not going to be taking the city of Orlando to court or anything stupid like that. The TV is your enemy. Turn it off!

No matter how hard we try they have made it so we CAN"T hold them accountable. This isn't really about holding anyone accountable anyway. This is about revealing the truth about how they are lying to us. It's more about soul saving at this point than prosecution.

If people can't see through the lies then their eyes are wide shut. We want people to have their eyes wide OPEN.

God will weed them all out. That's not our purpose here.
Government...
Govern: CONTROL
Ment: MIND
CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL

The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Re: Ultimate, Must Watch, Smoking Gun Proof of Pulse Hoax!!
Grab some popcorn. Sit back and relax for a riveting presentation that proves beyond all doubt that Patience Carter and "Orlando" are liars. If they are lying then everyone is lying.

There's big money in hoaxes and this whole thing is one big LIE!

Nobody died and nobody was hurt.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


The first person to comment should be in at least 29 minutes.

Except of course for the One Star Bandit and shills that will never be able to debunk this.

lol
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I would expect they're going to demolish this building fairly quickly as the story has completely unraveled.

The video goes at a slower pace, but it is good and worth the watch.
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Yes sobriquet, they do. I have said as much.

I will ask you a question.

Why do mock bloody drills with crisis actors and not let even the teachers know it is fake until it is over. Why do that?

Why not do it the old fashioned way? Schedule the drill, give the heads up, then walk and train through?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9416702


What makes you think that everybody was oblivious to the fact that they were performing?

Your question makes no sense.

It was all fake because there's no way the actors would act knowing that people were really going to die. But they will keep their mouths shut if they want that monthly check.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


OP the video brings up the question of where they breached the wall. If you look at it from a builders point of view, you can clearly see the vent stacks that are attached to each water/drain service from the doubter poster above. This brings up my observation. They breached the women's bathroom
alright but, they breached it near the location right behind the door where it opens to the wall. The shootout happened in the hallway between the doors. Look at the plumbing vent stacks and it will tell you where they breached. Didn't mean to debunk your thread op, but take a look and tell me what you think. The shootout never happened in the bathroom like carter said. It happened in the hallway. Just a builder here. I build these buildings.
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I'm originally from the neighboring city of Lakeland, FL. I can confirm that a friend of mine attended Amanda Alvear's funeral, as he was friends with her brother. To say that her funeral was faked is cold and heartless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71360827


I keep seeing possts like this all over -- without any proof or evidence, and this case, a guy from Portugal or a proxy.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


Yep. They can never debunk but they sure can distract.

The Portugal shill said he was going away but he came back. He just can't resist making another nickel. It all adds up I guess.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


So anyone who doesn't subscribe to your particular theory is instantly a government shill? I said multiple times I know something is fishy about this story, but only that I can attest that I know of a confirmed funeral in my hometown. You'd think I'd pick a better cover than Portugal if I were a shill. There are contrary opinions out there, get used to it. You sound paranoid when you start throwing around government shill. You asked about my move to Portugal and laughed about it. I have my personal reasons, but you did not earn the respect to know more with that response. Horrible economy here, yes, but a heck of a lot safer. I work freelance from home anyways, so it doesn't affect me as much. I don't agree with the gay club lifestyle, but am stil hurt to hear of bloodshed. We're all on our separate journeys of life and we never know when others will find the true love of Christ. But Jesus does not rely on the power of persuasive wprds, but the power of changing hearts. We can only plant seeds, but a person's heart must truly be opened to grow.

It really is late here. Need to get to bed for real. I guess I care too much about what random people say on the internet. If you're genuinely seeking to uncover the truth, may God's love guide your path. I've been a GLP reader for years, not a participant really. I know the coldness and disconnect that grows in a heart that becomes too engrossed with "conspiracy theories". I've had to back off some and rediscover love. I am still back looking for answers occasionally.

But sincerely God Bless you on your journey. It's a cold, cold world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71360827


Flushing out trolls has nothing to do with agreeing with someone or not. The words and tactics used are sufficient enough to identify a troll.

For example:


A typical troll tactic....


1) Pretend to be on the same side ("I agree that something is fishy")

2) Act indignant that someone would suspect you ("so someone who doesn't agree with you is a shill?"

3) Pretend to be a normal non-troll citizen, usually by pandering to emotions ("I guess I care too much")

4) Once the alignment strategies are set (numbers 1-3 above), then the troll
tells his bs lies to create confusions and distract from the truth ("a friend of mine went to a funeral")

Of course, we know you can't prove anything you say. So a troll has to create a really good back story by using the above techniques.

Those strategies work on libtards who believe everything they hear. But it doesn't work here on glp
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I'm originally from the neighboring city of Lakeland, FL. I can confirm that a friend of mine attended Amanda Alvear's funeral, as he was friends with her brother. To say that her funeral was faked is cold and heartless.
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portugal shill, nice.

funny how it's always a friend of a friend of a cousin of an uncle of a girlfriend was there and went to the funeral yadda yadda
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Yeah the try hard shills are showing up. My mothers cousins nieces sister had a friend who knew someone at the Pulse nightclub. Yeah right.
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OP you answer me this. If you really believe this is all bullshit or you going to do anything about it? that is other than posting videos?
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The only thing I can do is wake people up. I'm not going to be taking the city of Orlando to court or anything stupid like that. The TV is your enemy. Turn it off!

No matter how hard we try they have made it so we CAN"T hold them accountable. This isn't really about holding anyone accountable anyway. This is about revealing the truth about how they are lying to us. It's more about soul saving at this point than prosecution.

If people can't see through the lies then their eyes are wide shut. We want people to have their eyes wide OPEN.

God will weed them all out. That's not our purpose here.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Thanks for the video OP. It definitely needs to go viral to spread truth.

I hate how these trolls keep throwing bs around to create frustration and confusion.
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OP you answer me this. If you really believe this is all bullshit or you going to do anything about it? that is other than posting videos?
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The only thing I can do is wake people up. I'm not going to be taking the city of Orlando to court or anything stupid like that. The TV is your enemy. Turn it off!

No matter how hard we try they have made it so we CAN"T hold them accountable. This isn't really about holding anyone accountable anyway. This is about revealing the truth about how they are lying to us. It's more about soul saving at this point than prosecution.

If people can't see through the lies then their eyes are wide shut. We want people to have their eyes wide OPEN.

God will weed them all out. That's not our purpose here.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Pussy.
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OP you answer me this. If you really believe this is all bullshit or you going to do anything about it? that is other than posting videos?
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Posting the video is more than most people do.

OP is sharing knowledge and awareness. The more people are aware of the facts, the more they wake up from the zombie programming the slave masters want.

You rather we should all ignore it and sit on your hands? Like what YOU are doing? Except YOU are worse than the zombies.. You are being presented with a video contains factual information, and you just bitch and complain at the OP.

Why are you doing that?

Only trolls would do that. Because most people who don't care...they just don't care enough to bitch and complain.

However trolls...trolls use similar tactics as you are using to distract and create confusion.

So either YOU do something about it. Or YOU stfu
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I keep seeing possts like this all over -- without any proof or evidence, and this case, a guy from Portugal or a proxy.
 Quoting: Cigarette_Smoking_Man


Yep. They can never debunk but they sure can distract.

The Portugal shill said he was going away but he came back. He just can't resist making another nickel. It all adds up I guess.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


So anyone who doesn't subscribe to your particular theory is instantly a government shill? I said multiple times I know something is fishy about this story, but only that I can attest that I know of a confirmed funeral in my hometown. You'd think I'd pick a better cover than Portugal if I were a shill. There are contrary opinions out there, get used to it. You sound paranoid when you start throwing around government shill. You asked about my move to Portugal and laughed about it. I have my personal reasons, but you did not earn the respect to know more with that response. Horrible economy here, yes, but a heck of a lot safer. I work freelance from home anyways, so it doesn't affect me as much. I don't agree with the gay club lifestyle, but am stil hurt to hear of bloodshed. We're all on our separate journeys of life and we never know when others will find the true love of Christ. But Jesus does not rely on the power of persuasive wprds, but the power of changing hearts. We can only plant seeds, but a person's heart must truly be opened to grow.

It really is late here. Need to get to bed for real. I guess I care too much about what random people say on the internet. If you're genuinely seeking to uncover the truth, may God's love guide your path. I've been a GLP reader for years, not a participant really. I know the coldness and disconnect that grows in a heart that becomes too engrossed with "conspiracy theories". I've had to back off some and rediscover love. I am still back looking for answers occasionally.

But sincerely God Bless you on your journey. It's a cold, cold world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71360827


Flushing out trolls has nothing to do with agreeing with someone or not. The words and tactics used are sufficient enough to identify a troll.

For example:


A typical troll tactic....


1) Pretend to be on the same side ("I agree that something is fishy")

2) Act indignant that someone would suspect you ("so someone who doesn't agree with you is a shill?"

3) Pretend to be a normal non-troll citizen, usually by pandering to emotions ("I guess I care too much")

4) Once the alignment strategies are set (numbers 1-3 above), then the troll
tells his bs lies to create confusions and distract from the truth ("a friend of mine went to a funeral")

Of course, we know you can't prove anything you say. So a troll has to create a really good back story by using the above techniques.

Those strategies work on libtards who believe everything they hear. But it doesn't work here on glp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72437915


I shouldn't have ever commented in the first place. Sheesh, as great as GLP can be sometimes I forget how paranoid some people are on here. Heaven forbid you voice something contradictory to the OP. God bless your frozen heart.
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I'm no FBI interrogator, but I have done a bit of research on how to tell if people are lying, as well as NLP, and eye movements, and while watching that Patience Carter re-construct her story I can see that she's doing a lot of looking to her left - auditory remembered (remembering a script) - looking up to the left - visually constructed (trying to imagine herself in the situation). And I also saw some looking down and to the right, which would suggest she had this internal dialogue going.

By the way, I'm assuming she's right handed since she's holding the microphone with her right hand.
 Quoting: Floyd Gondolli


The script is the same for all of them. And they were not even in the same bathroom because they weren't even there to begin with. They couldn't have been. The holes weren't even punched into the woman's bathroom. Nobody could have escaped from the woman's bathroom.

Anyone who said they went into the bathrooms would have run right past one of two exits.

They lie therefore they are all lying.

The place wasn't even registered and I doubt it was even open for business.

State registration expired 12/31/13

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Most of the "dead" were from Puerto Rico and some of them or their family members were facing prison terms.

50% rule:

Jorge Bustamante was inside the funeral home but joined the crowd on the sidewalk outside when he could no longer bear the sadness inside.

“I couldn’t walk up to him,” said Bustamante, who previously worked with Jorge-Reyes at Gucci. “This was a tough experience.”

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Felonies of the third degree are the least serious types of felonies in Florida, punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000. If lawmakers fail to designate the punishment for or degree of a felony, then the crime is punishable as a third degree felony. (Fla. Stat. §§ 775.081, 775.082, 775.083.)

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Bustamante's cousin's (Santos Rodriquez) case was suddenly dropped saving him $15,000 and a man named Jorge Bustamante is running a GoFundMe page for his "dead" cousin that is at around $15,000 now.

Deonka's case was magically "transferred" and there is no more information on it and no more activity on the case. And it's been a year now. For someone who should be in prison all this time she found a way to go clubbing. These were drug trafficking charges and cocaine possession.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Wow! Great detective work!


With GLP on the case, they don't stand a chance!

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I'm originally from the neighboring city of Lakeland, FL. I can confirm that a friend of mine attended Amanda Alvear's funeral, as he was friends with her brother. To say that her funeral was faked is cold and heartless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71360827


Can you offer any proof other than hearsay? I don't mean this to be rude. But if you have proof. Get your friend to the cops and debunk all of this.
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Not even going to argue this. Your hearts have grown icy cold. It's so much different when it hits your hometown. It's easy to separate yourself when it hasn't hit close to you. Maybe the guy was an MK Ultra setup, but Amanda is certainly dead.
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OP you answer me this. If you really believe this is all bullshit or you going to do anything about it? that is other than posting videos?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72284769


Posting the video is more than most people do.

OP is sharing knowledge and awareness. The more people are aware of the facts, the more they wake up from the zombie programming the slave masters want.

You rather we should all ignore it and sit on your hands? Like what YOU are doing? Except YOU are worse than the zombies.. You are being presented with a video contains factual information, and you just bitch and complain at the OP.

Why are you doing that?

Only trolls would do that. Because most people who don't care...they just don't care enough to bitch and complain.

However trolls...trolls use similar tactics as you are using to distract and create confusion.

So either YOU do something about it. Or YOU stfu
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glpaward
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I couldn't follow it because it takes him too fucking long to make simple points.

Could someone post the abridged narrative here?
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OP you answer me this. If you really believe this is all bullshit or you going to do anything about it? that is other than posting videos?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72284769


The only thing I can do is wake people up. I'm not going to be taking the city of Orlando to court or anything stupid like that. The TV is your enemy. Turn it off!

No matter how hard we try they have made it so we CAN"T hold them accountable. This isn't really about holding anyone accountable anyway. This is about revealing the truth about how they are lying to us. It's more about soul saving at this point than prosecution.

If people can't see through the lies then their eyes are wide shut. We want people to have their eyes wide OPEN.

God will weed them all out. That's not our purpose here.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


Pussy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72284769




What do you want OP to do then?



Your trolling is so obvious.


Dumbass


I'm calling your boss and telling him you need to be fired. The whole point of trolling is to do it subtly. But you have yourself away.

Only trolls keep bashing away at information and truth.

Normal people find better things to do.
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Yes sobriquet, they do. I have said as much.

I will ask you a question.

Why do mock bloody drills with crisis actors and not let even the teachers know it is fake until it is over. Why do that?

Why not do it the old fashioned way? Schedule the drill, give the heads up, then walk and train through?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9416702


What makes you think that everybody was oblivious to the fact that they were performing?

Your question makes no sense.

It was all fake because there's no way the actors would act knowing that people were really going to die. But they will keep their mouths shut if they want that monthly check.
 Quoting: Sobriquet™


OP the video brings up the question of where they breached the wall. If you look at it from a builders point of view, you can clearly see the vent stacks that are attached to each water/drain service from the doubter poster above. This brings up my observation. They breached the women's bathroom
alright but, they breached it near the location right behind the door where it opens to the wall. The shootout happened in the hallway between the doors. Look at the plumbing vent stacks and it will tell you where they breached. Didn't mean to debunk your thread op, but take a look and tell me what you think. The shootout never happened in the bathroom like carter said. It happened in the hallway. Just a builder here. I build these buildings.
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In other words, the shooting didn't happen in either bathroom. It happened in the hallway damned





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