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Uranium Seawater Extraction Makes Nuclear Power Completely Renewable

 
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Uranium Seawater Extraction Makes Nuclear Power Completely Renewable
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"Nuclear fuel made with uranium extracted from seawater makes nuclear power completely renewable. It’s not just that the 4 billion tons of uranium in seawater now would fuel a thousand 1,000-MW nuclear power plants for 100,000 years. It’s that uranium extracted from seawater is replenished continuously, so nuclear becomes as endless as solar, hydro and wind."

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"...this latest technology builds on work by researchers in Japan and uses polyethylene fibers coated with amidoxime to pull in and bind uranium dioxide from seawater..."

"An acid treatment recovers the uranium in the form of a uranyl complex, regenerating the fibers that can be reused many times. The concentrated uranyl complex then can be enriched to become nuclear fuel..."

:amidoxime-fiber:

"Researchers at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory exposed this special uranium-sorbing fiber developed at ORNL to Pseudomonas fluorescens and used the Advanced Photon Source at Argonne National Laboratory to create a 3-D X-ray microtomograph to determine microstructure and the effects of interactions with organisms and seawater."

"...testing shows that these new fibers had the capacity to hold 6 grams of uranium per kilogram of adsorbent in only about 50 days in natural seawater...

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What utter retards on this forum. It isn't the source of the uranium that is the problem. It is what you do with the fission byproducts AFTER the uranium has been used.

Geez, the IQ around here is going to have to seriously get upgraded.

Renewable energy only applies to supply-side. Just look at Fukashima. Do you want more of that?
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What utter retards on this forum. It isn't the source of the uranium that is the problem. It is what you do with the fission byproducts AFTER the uranium has been used.

Geez, the IQ around here is going to have to seriously get upgraded.

Renewable energy only applies to supply-side. Just look at Fukashima. Do you want more of that?
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Yeah, have a look in the mirror and you'll probably find the lowest IQ source.

You act like there won't be any more technological advances or discoveries. Now go stand in the corner, here's your dunce cap...
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it's the only way to get rid of all the radiation the Japanese have dumped into the Ocean.
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What utter retards on this forum. It isn't the source of the uranium that is the problem. It is what you do with the fission byproducts AFTER the uranium has been used.

Geez, the IQ around here is going to have to seriously get upgraded.

Renewable energy only applies to supply-side. Just look at Fukashima. Do you want more of that?
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Yeah, have a look in the mirror and you'll probably find the lowest IQ source.

You act like there won't be any more technological advances or discoveries. Now go stand in the corner, here's your dunce cap...
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His tone may have been uncalled for but....I thought he had a valid point!
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These technologies can be refined, and new materials discovered and developed to perform different, but similar functions. An emerging industry of sorts, which could also be potentially applied to various cleanup and abatement method(s). A lot of unknown possibilities.

Curiously, I was thinking of these things while washing my hair in the shower this morning. More specifically, I was thinking of atoms (and molecules) binding to a surface (like a soap lather) and then reclaiming the "stuff." Then, this article shows up on my radar a few hours later, right after a co-worker starts discussing boats and amphibious watercraft... The concepts were all very strangely similar...

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What utter retards on this forum. It isn't the source of the uranium that is the problem. It is what you do with the fission byproducts AFTER the uranium has been used.

Geez, the IQ around here is going to have to seriously get upgraded.

Renewable energy only applies to supply-side. Just look at Fukashima. Do you want more of that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71544920


Yeah, have a look in the mirror and you'll probably find the lowest IQ source.

You act like there won't be any more technological advances or discoveries. Now go stand in the corner, here's your dunce cap...
 Quoting: AkashicRecord®


His tone may have been uncalled for but....I thought he had a valid point!
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He's just showing his ignorance of things like MOX for thermal reactors, and he completely misses the fact that breeder reactors can employ all of the actinides. The efficiency of natural Uranium climbs to 60x, while the Uranium prices also plummet a good bit (a good thing.)
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Other then fusion technology, all nuclear ways of generating power suck and shouldn't be used!
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Other then fusion technology, all nuclear ways of generating power suck and shouldn't be used!
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I don't agree fully, especially with the many different styles and method.

True fusion might be ...infeasible, terrestrially, so I'm not expecting breakthroughs there...not just yet.

I've written about other types of energy and reclamation / recycling methods, too, and they all have different uses and applications / possibilities. How about removing things like mercury and other elements from waste water?
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What utter retards on this forum. It isn't the source of the uranium that is the problem. It is what you do with the fission byproducts AFTER the uranium has been used.

Geez, the IQ around here is going to have to seriously get upgraded.

Renewable energy only applies to supply-side. Just look at Fukashima. Do you want more of that?

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clappa

That's right.
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Isn't disposal the Mai issue with nuclear power? This sea water idea will increase the radioactive waste problem.
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Other then fusion technology, all nuclear ways of generating power suck and shouldn't be used!
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Wow - then there must be fibers that can absorb gold, silver and other precious metals!
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Wow - then there must be fibers that can absorb gold, silver and other precious metals!
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There's a lot to be discovered in regards to these things.
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Where does the nuclear waste go?
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Where does the nuclear waste go?
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Feed it to a thorium reactor
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There's tons of plutonium and strontium 90 in the Pacific ocean, from just off the coast of fukushima, all the way to Vancouver.
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Wow - then there must be fibers that can absorb gold, silver and other precious metals!
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There's a lot to be discovered in regards to these things.
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Interesting post AR. There is already technology that can remove gold from water. Apparently they can remove gold from sewage and drain water.
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Where does the nuclear waste go?
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A few things have been mentioned. Breeder reactors that utilize the entire fuel cycle, and thorium reactors were mentioned (I didn't want to get into that one.)
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Wow - then there must be fibers that can absorb gold, silver and other precious metals!
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Adsorb is the proper term, but I knew what you meant.
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Doesn't alter the fact that it is an extremly dangerous energy source that needs to be eradicated.

I assume you americans know that all nuclear reactors do is boil water to make steam? That steam is then piped to steam powered generators which are what actually produces the electricity.
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seawater is great for multiple purposes
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renewable so long as Fukushima puts out.
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The Disaster spewed it everywhere including intense on the west coast.

Its not renwable, even if they extract it from a disaster you don't keep contaminating the world to extract some from sea weed.

That definition is not a renewable resource.
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What utter retards on this forum. It isn't the source of the uranium that is the problem. It is what you do with the fission byproducts AFTER the uranium has been used.

Geez, the IQ around here is going to have to seriously get upgraded.

Renewable energy only applies to supply-side. Just look at Fukashima. Do you want more of that?
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lmao. I know right.
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Where does the nuclear waste go?
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NIMBY (not in my backyard). Nobody wants it. There's no safe way to get rid of it long term.

That and incidents like Fukushima make me wonder how anyone can still be proposing more nuclear power.

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Where does the nuclear waste go?
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Feed it to a thorium reactor
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Thorium reactors produce NUC waste as well

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I think they use the leftovers to make bombs and blast the sand naggers
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Where does the nuclear waste go?
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A few things have been mentioned. Breeder reactors that utilize the entire fuel cycle, and thorium reactors were mentioned (I didn't want to get into that one.)
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Breeder reactors still produce NUC waste as well

AR- much respect, I think you know this

But as happy as I am to see what maybe a possible invention to remove the waste already in our environment, and not just from FUKU, this is not a source for sustainable power generation. Factoring the associated costs with fission, it is easily the most expensive, and lethal, choice currently

IMO, we need to shutter this industry now--all, that is, we can.

One must remember that the removal of these elements and isotopes are but a very very FEW of the other isotopes produced

And of them all, there is tritium--produced at every single reactor on Earth-- and leaking into the environment of every single reactor as well

How does one separate two neutrons from one sample of h3 into h1

How does one separate water from water?

Nothing will known to man Nothing limits it's creep from containment except gold. There is no solution to this meanwhile it's production continues 24/7/365 poisoning us and our environment

Just look at Indian Point, my friend.

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no
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perfectly dangerous
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