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Hardware security export Damien Zammit revealed some startling revelations in a recent SoftPedia about the secret backdoor built in to new Intel CPUs that no one can touch or disable.

The backdoor, called the Intel Management Engine (ME) is works as a secret subsystem inside your computer’s CPU and runs constantly even when your computer is not turned on.

It works but setting up a TCP/IP server and since the subsystem has complete uncontrolled access to your computer’s hardware, including the network card and memory, it works without the knowledge of your computers operating system and can not be disabled by the OS or by your computer’s firewall.

No one outside of Intel has seen the ME source code and security experts are warning the built-in backdoor has the potential to explode into the worst root kit ever with every modern Intel based CPU becoming compromised.

Intel asserts it is secure from hackers and such attacks because it is protected by 2048 bit RSA encryption which theoretically thought to be uncrackable during the lifespan of everyone living on earth today.

However, the same theories were thought to be applicable to previous incarnations of the current 2048 bit RSA standard each iteration of which was proven to be absolutely wrong in practice.

Given advancements in mathematical theory relating to algorithms such as the variations of the Quadratic Sieve (QS) and the General Number Field Seive (GNFS) combined with advances in computer hardware and software to support parallel computing researchers have repeatedly surpassed theoretical limits decades and centuries before they were theoretically thought to be vulnerable.

In the mean time relatively unexplored frontiers in current technology remain abound.

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Unplug your Power and Network Cables when you are not Actively using your computer. - Physical Security Rules -


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I was already planning without a doubt to go with AMD ZEN anyway.
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THEY ALWAYS HAVE
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ME: High-level overview
-Management Engine (or Manageability Engine) is a dedicated micro controller on all recent Intel platforms

-In first version was included in the network card, later moved into the chipset(GMCH, then PCH, then MCH)

-Shares flash with the BIOS but is completely independent from the main CPU

-Can be active even when the system is hibernating or turned off(but connected to mains)

-Has a dedicated connection to the network interface; can intercept or send data without main CPU's knowledge
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Not in all Intel CPUs
It is in CPU's targeting corporations and large organizations.
Its a very desirable feature for many organizations.
If it proves to be exploitable, its a very bad thing tho.
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And it can be turned off entirely.
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Still remember when Samsung and Microsoft partnered,

Pretty scary considering theres a high percentage of People using Samsung HDTVs...

... And don't get me started on the Galaxy Smartphone from them.
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Still remember when Samsung and Microsoft partnered,

Pretty scary considering theres a high percentage of People using Samsung HDTVs...

... And don't get me started on the Galaxy Smartphone from them.
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Smartphones most likely comes with the same NSA tech integrated to their ARM CPUs and most people are hooked on them like ZOmbies.
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big brother is watching

and he's not wearing any pants
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remember that time way back a few years ago and the pentagon was investigated for child porn and they found over 5000 people in possession of child porn, but they swept it under the rug?

that's where our tax dollars are really going.
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More like 20yrs they have had a back door.
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Is there anything to the rumor that Intel chips also have an always on 3g or 4g connection to internet? I seem to remember hearing something about this years ago. Is that part of the reason cell phone towers pretty much blanket the entire US?
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This has been going on for a while, but better late than never to be aware of it.

If we all really cared, we would start promoting and backing the theory of stateless computing and open source hardware and software instead of relying on everything being proprietary.

Here is a good read on the theory that stateful computing is harmful.

[link to blog.invisiblethings.org]

We need to support open source hardware like the Purism laptops. All open source, no proprietary binaries and everything can be accounted for.

[link to puri.sm (secure)]


And secure open-source operating systems like Qubes OS.

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Is there anything to the rumor that Intel chips also have an always on 3g or 4g connection to internet? I seem to remember hearing something about this years ago. Is that part of the reason cell phone towers pretty much blanket the entire US?
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no
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Has anyone ever posted any sniffer data?
Sure it's encrypted, but you could trend volume, frequency, and see where it's being sent.
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See Hillary is not the only one with an exploitable back door.
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shameless NWO
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Not in all Intel CPUs
It is in CPU's targeting corporations and large organizations.
Its a very desirable feature for many organizations.
If it proves to be exploitable, its a very bad thing tho.
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spot on, its mainly to make remote management easier but it is a scary feature if anyone can name one occasion were someone made a secure app you could put my mind at rest but I fear for the worse, sooner or later...
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Yep and I'm sticking with what I currently have. It's largely not broken and I'm going with the old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.".
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See Hillary is not the only one with an exploitable back door.
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Is there anything to the rumor that Intel chips also have an always on 3g or 4g connection to internet? I seem to remember hearing something about this years ago. Is that part of the reason cell phone towers pretty much blanket the entire US?
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no
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I wouldn't say cell towers blanket pretty much the entire U.S. I still can't get good cell reception in Sherman, TX, and I've been frequenting the fricken city for many years now.
The number one and two participants in the Oppression Olympics? The SJWs and Feminists.

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”

- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller

"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

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See Hillary is not the only one with an exploitable back door.
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You'd know wouldn't you, Billy-boy, huh?
The number one and two participants in the Oppression Olympics? The SJWs and Feminists.

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”

- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller

"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

Pepperspray: The new Liberal cologne.

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THEY ALWAYS HAVE
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This^ And there is more than one backdoor...
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Tech thread, 5*
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neat trick they have to get us to upgrade-say that face recognition will make us invulnerable to hacking--why not hold a life-size pic of our face to the camera and ZING! you're in!
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AMD FTW!