Bipolar--Seeking Guidance

Energy healing techniques, types of meditation, anything you think would be useful I have my ears open.

I workout and meditate on a daily basis but it hasn't seemed to alleviate any of the depressive symptoms. Racing mind, negative thoughts, pessimism, etc.

Hard physical labor all day every day for at least a few years.

Demands your privileged and pampered body and psyche has never known.

Beat your body to physical exhaustion

to the point where you scarf food down

and sleep hard.


You asked.

Your condition is a luxury of a life of ease.

Chemicals poison you.

They do not help you.

You pay them all.


Fast.

Flush.

A prolonged fast

and much water.


Ignore me...

I'm happy I'm sad I'm loving I'm mad I'm good I'm bad I'm slow I'm fast I'm laughing I can't stop crying.

Here, you're diagnosed.

You are a victim of the human condition

and this thing called life.

So here, take these drugs and pay me and pay them

I'm your hooker I'm your dealer baby.



Pain.

Man up.

Learn.

Benefit.

Wisdom.

Have you tried niacin in high doses? It has to be the kind that flushes. You could start with 100mg 2x to 4x a day and work up to 500mg 4x a day. It is inexpensive and if taken regularly the flushing stops. The niacin is very effective and the lithium is ok with it.

For vitamins methyl folate, methyl b12, a good magnesium and stop all sweets and carbs.

Look up zero carb zen.

>>>> IMPORTANT <<<<

You MIGHT NOT BE BIPOLAR.

FACT: 90% of all those with Zinc Allergy are NEVER diagnosed as such. If you are Zinc Allergic the low level symptoms are IDENTICAL to bipolar and all the medication does is to MUTE THE BODY'S ALARM SYSTEM... until it kills you.

If you are Zinc Allergic, you need to STOP all your medication and switch to a low zinc diet, which means...

- No Cheese
- Rarely Steak or Beef.
- NEVER Oysters nor most shellfish.
- Rarely Salmon.
- NEVER Liver.

If you are Zinc Allergic and you do this, you will find yourself on your Bipolar high... but it sort of never ends, it just fades down to normal after about 5 years.

I agree with this..push yourself physically

Push
then
push some more

I want to respond to you OP...but I want to give it my full attention. I am a bit distracted right now. But I will get back to you (I have been diagnosed with bipolar and have had quite a journey).

What do you expect?

What do you demand?

What do you appreciate?

What are you thankful for?

Did you eat today?

Did you have a toilet to flush your shit away?

Were you able to wash your ass today?

Did you have a bed last night?

Under a roof?

Do you have a bed under a roof tonight too?


What exactly is so bad?


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Sounds like you have the medical base covered. What are you doing for your spiritual health? There's a real connection as I'm sure you know.

I could be wrong, but i think I'm getting a sense that you are feeling some spiritual oppression and that connecting with God seems difficult if not impossible for you right now--- and maybe something you're not sure if you have any desire for.

YOU take control of your own mind. You rule it, and it doesn't rule you. Find your strength to know and understand that YOU are in control at all times.

This comes off as flippant and superficial but is actually wise advice.

There must be over a dozen bipolar forums online, why do you seek advice from an unusual forum?

I'm a skeptic with 'help' posts of mental health problems on controversial forums, I feel like psychoanalysts are trolling, or researchers, or students, or ambulance chasing lawyers with whining easily gullible fools as clients. You know it's somethngi like a cirme to treat or diagnose a disease, or act like a pro to someone...why haven't you told your pro about your shortcomings?

Have you considered your thyroid checked? Why I say that, because depression and thyroid, maybe something you are eating is screwing up your chemical reflexes and it appears bipolar but it could be something else, but you never blamed the food you put into your body, other than the pills you put into your body.

Most pills are nontoxic, if they were toxic they wouldn't prescribe them. Really, lithium is not for everybody because some people get hypothyroidism from it. So you get low thyroid, you get depressed, then you take lithium that lowers thyroid...cycle repeats, they say you aren't pilling it hard enough, I think it's a case of an unskilled psychiatrist with their favorite meds to give and they think it's an obedience test that's lacking. And you need other doctors to look at other things.

Try B12, if that changes. Try the Bs and the zinc and D3 and calcium. Eleuthero root and siberian ginseng.

It's a tricky thing you always have to have the psych meds on the table for the status quo about bipolar, it's a label up there with schizophrenia, people think oh it's terrible, they have their stories about someone they don't know. To be honest, if you could keep your pill life in the closet that might help you long term better, keep it with doctors only, do you really want average fools online telling you anything that looks believable?

Go to church and sing.

You are exactly right. During my manias, my faith is really strong, but during my depressions my faith is virtually non existent.

Connecting with God does seem difficult. I read, I pray. I have a desire for it.

I chose this outlet as I think there are some intelligent cats here (once in a while). Most bipolar forums are littered with unintelligent, emotional, depressing posts that don't do anything to lift your spirit. I understand it is a little unorthodox to post here but there is some value in my mind.

I have a checkup to get a baseline on all my levels here in the coming weeks. I will definitely get my thyroid checked.

Thanks for he post.

Two suggestions:
Depakote (Valproic Acid) 1,000mg in the AM + 1000mg in the PM every day. It absolutely, positively WILL halt the mood swings!!!!!!

In addition to the Depakote, ZOLOFT, 200mg per day in the AM

It is important that you are EASED-INTO the Depakote. You cannot slam your body with that dosage right form the start or it will screw up your Liver.

You want to start the Depakote two WEEKS before you add the Zoloft. That will give the Depakote time to stabilize your moods.

One final note, do NOT let them substitute the "generic" Sertraline for actual ZOLOFT. They are NOT the same and the generic does NOT work nearly as well.

All these things I say from my own personal experience.

OP get off all psychotropics. Unless you want to lose your soul, literally.

Soul= Mind, will and emotions.

You need to look into the use of a combination. Equal parts Lithium and Depakote. Used together they may stabilize you. I've seen it do wonders.

Ok, this fucker is lying. Depakote does not "absolutely, positively" stop mood swings. If it did for him, he's a lucky guy. Meds affect different people differently. What works for one person may or may not work for the next. It's all trial and error. That's what any good DR will tell you. If he doesn't, find a new Dr. From my experience, skip any offer of ECT. I had 13 sessions and it only eliminated my short term memory for that time period.
Keep a daily mood chart. See if there is any rhyme or reason for your swings. Put off all important decisions when manic or depressed. Don't commit to anything when you can't think straight.
I am BP 2, so depression is my main problem. Been suffering since age 13, am 60 now. Been disabled due to the illness since 1989. Think seriously about never having children. I have a son and daughter, both have been adversely affected by my illness and both have had mental health issues. My daughter is doing ok but my son is also on disability for depression and Aspergers. I love them tremendously but to witness the pain my son suffers is simply horrible.
I am off all prescribed meds. None stopped the cycling. I go about 6 good days followed by 4 bad days. That's an average. I have had over 90 days of both good mood, not manic or depressed and 90 depressed days. I only experienced hypo-mania and the longest of those periods lasted 4 days. High doses of Niacin and Tumeric are doing as well for me as any medication rx'ed by a Dr. I no longer have the anger issues I once had. I am more emotional now. Thats a trade off I'll take any day.
YOu have a lot of work ahead of you. Good luck.

OP, If you had Zika would you focus on going to church, improving your diet, and the rest of the "band aid" type cures? Sure all of these palliatives may help you to SOME degree. There's stronger and better solutions out there.

You must realize you have a physical problem and likely a chemical imbalance in the brain. The problem with all psyche drugs is yes they all have side effects, the same meds don't work the same way for everyone. Also it's a very long process of trial and error to find the exact combo and dosage that works for you. If the potential for getting better is far better than the side effects you must endure by taking the drugs you have your answer.

Many homeless are actually mentally ill and refuse to take proscribed meds. Some are fearful of being 'zonked out."

OP don't believe the lies...

It HAS NOT been tested for it's medical value OR toxicity, so taking it AT ALL is simply fucking stupid.

While lithium orotate is capable of providing lithium to the body, like lithium carbonate and other lithium salts, there are no systematic reviews supporting the efficacy of lithium orotate and it is not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the treatment of any medical condition.


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