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Seems to me our stories keep telling the same story over and over, in different ways.


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ADAM is a substance harvested and processed from a type of Sea Slug.
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A Guild Navigator was a senior rank of artificially super evolved humans within the Spacing Guild, and for many Guildsmen the pinnacle of their ambitions. Mutated through the consumption of and exposure to massive amounts of the spice Melange, Navigators are able to use a mentally conditioned and trained form of prescience to safely navigate interstellar and galactic space in long range starships called Heighliners.
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Norma Cevna

The exiles reached Tupile where Norma devoted her time to the design of hyperspace ships. She was also the first pilot to experiment with the use of melange in ship steering. Leone taught her the ways of the Bene Gesserit, through which Norma would realize the navigational potential of spice-trance prescience. The computer could be replaced with a spice-heightened brain. Venport was skeptical about Leona and discouraged Cevna's association with the "witch".
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Everyone needs it, everyone wants it..


Spice Melange

Effects on those who consume melange are outlined below:

Mind altering: it could awaken dormant parts of the human mind and encourage expanded sensory perceptions. In some humans (notably the Bene Gesserit, Guild Navigators, and some members of the Atreides bloodline), heavy doses led to powerful abilities that include prescience;

Health benefits: taken regularly it increased life expectancy and fortified over all health levels (in many cases life expectancy was tripled);

Addictiveness: the spice had narcotic properties, thus increasing demand and creating a large and hungry market for it. An individual's addiction to the spice would worsen the more they consumed it.

Physical effects: sustained use of the spice led to human eyes being discolored so that the entire eye would be stained blue - so called Eyes of Ibad. Extensive exposure to the spice created a huge physical dependency that could radically alter the entire body (see Guild navigators).

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Seems to me our stories keep telling the same story over and over, in different ways.


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They call it ADAM. It's a drug. Everyone wants it. But it mutates everyone..


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ADAM is a substance harvested and processed from a type of Sea Slug.
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Sandtrout
Sandtrout were the larval form of sandworms on the planet Arrakis. They were described as resembling large freshwater leeches, amorphous blobs or slugs.
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The Golden Path

The Golden Path ("Secher Nbiw" in the ancient Egyptian language) was an expansive prescient interpretation that was only visible to the Kwisatz Haderach. It foretold the fluid events of the future, both great and small. More profoundly, however, it revealed an optimum path through the countless threads of cause and effect that were encountered by the human race.
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Makes complete sense. I trust that you'll be able to figure it out.
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Do you believe it is possible we have already done this before?

Do you believe in a future beyond predetermined?

Do we choose?


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What LIQUID would modern-day IRAQ (Babylon) have that all other "Kings" and nations want?

There is nothing much in that desert land is there?

Revelation 17:2

For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries."

Mystery Babylon...
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I often wondered years ago, if Dune was a loose interpretation of Iraq and oil. Being Arrakis, sounds like Iraq-is. Also the desert. Also the farming of the spice which allows for travel.
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Ah. I see it now.

The Desert.

Who's going to save it?


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Kwisatz Haderach

Kwisatz Haderach was a term used primarily by the Bene Gesserit. It was an old Chakobsa term that translated literally as "Shortening of the Way".

The Bene Gesserit desire to uncover this knowledge and its associated powers drove them to initiate a long-running genetic breeding program that would yield a male with mental powers capable of bridging space and time, and that he would be under direct control of the Sisterhood. The Bene Gesserit knew that, not only would their Kwisatz Haderach possess Other Memory on both the male and female side, but that he would be able to predict the future precisely. He would be Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother, Mentat, and Guild Navigator, all in one being.

After the emergence of this male - Paul Atreides - the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once", and became synonymous with Paul.

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Kwisatz Haderach

Kwisatz Haderach was a term used primarily by the Bene Gesserit. It was an old Chakobsa term that translated literally as "Shortening of the Way".

The Bene Gesserit desire to uncover this knowledge and its associated powers drove them to initiate a long-running genetic breeding program that would yield a male with mental powers capable of bridging space and time, and that he would be under direct control of the Sisterhood. The Bene Gesserit knew that, not only would their Kwisatz Haderach possess Other Memory on both the male and female side, but that he would be able to predict the future precisely. He would be Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother, Mentat, and Guild Navigator, all in one being.

After the emergence of this male - Paul Atreides - the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once", and became synonymous with Paul.

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Omnipresence

Omnipresence or ubiquity is the property of being present everywhere. The term omnipresence is most often used in a religious context as an attribute of a deity or supreme being, while the term ubiquity is generally used to describe something "existing or being everywhere at the same time, constantly encountered, widespread, common."

The omnipresence of a supreme being is conceived differently by different religious systems. In monotheistic beliefs like Christianity, Judaism, and Islam the divine and the universe are separate, but the divine is present everywhere. In pantheistic beliefs the divine and the universe are identical. In panentheistic beliefs the divine interpenetrates the universe, but extends beyond it in time and space.

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Evan Rachel Wood details being bound, tortured and raped by an ex-boyfriend and later being assaulted by a second rapist on a closet floor during harrowing testimony to Congress
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These violent delights..have violent ends..

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Prescience

The God-Emperor Leto Atreides II described prescience as the ability to recognise patterns in history repeating themselves over and over again. The term has also been used to describe the ability of Guild Navigators to see into the immediate present and future, so that they could plot a safe path for Heighliners when travelling through space.

An individual who possessed true prescience could see into all the possibilities of the present and how they interplayed into the future.

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So...what are they intimating about the navigators?

That the ability to see was the ability to project or focus.

Memory crystalizing the future by collapsing all possibilities.

Where do we suppose all those possibilities go?
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Their ability to deliver safe passage..


They fall into improbability.
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Guild Navigators

Guild Navigators were responsible for guiding space-faring ships (spacefolders) through the mine-field of gravitational obstacles that lay between a source and a planetary or spacial target. They accomplished this feat by using prescient abilities brought on by excessive exposure to the Spice Melange. The navigators would either inhale massive amounts of orange spice gas or swallow spice pills, which would afford them the ability to see across vast distances of space, and importantly, into the near future.

Though spacefolding travel allowed through application of the Holtzman Effect resulted in the loss of a ship roughly one in every ten journeys, through their senses, a Navigator would be able to plot safe courses for ships across vast distances of space by presciently determining unsafe routes (and therefore identify a safe one), before a fold actually takes place, via prescience.

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Kwisatz Haderach

Kwisatz Haderach was a term used primarily by the Bene Gesserit. It was an old Chakobsa term that translated literally as "Shortening of the Way".

The Bene Gesserit desire to uncover this knowledge and its associated powers drove them to initiate a long-running genetic breeding program that would yield a male with mental powers capable of bridging space and time, and that he would be under direct control of the Sisterhood. The Bene Gesserit knew that, not only would their Kwisatz Haderach possess Other Memory on both the male and female side, but that he would be able to predict the future precisely. He would be Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother, Mentat, and Guild Navigator, all in one being.

After the emergence of this male - Paul Atreides - the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once", and became synonymous with Paul.

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hmm


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Why has Kali shaped the future of technology?
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Perhaps by trapping all the heads..that are about to roll. I welcome her purge. May their passing cleanse the world.
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Notice she is a seven shape. Four arms, two legs, one head

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The chicomoztoc

The gnostics were really good remote viewers and empathic telepaths of organic life and if they had the science today it would probably not look like aeons and archons to them, lol
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The gap(deadspace) of nonmaterial going into material is a spiral form. The sacred spiral represented more than the constructs of space and time. The middle being formlessness. Born out of the middle one puts on the garments of space and time which causes one to take on mind. The more one spirals out the more on takes on form through experience and conditioning from the environment. One becomes encrusted with the addictions of time. The mind is a function of time which causes form out of formlessness.-Star woman info on shapeshifters
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lol
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Note branch of the gnostics was this:

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In Zurvanism, Zurvan was perceived as the god of infinite time and space and was aka ("one", "alone"). Zurvan was portrayed as a transcendental and neutral god, without passion, and one for whom there was no distinction between good or evil. The name 'Zurvan' is a normalized rendition of the word, which in Middle Persian appears as either Zurvān, Zruvān or Zarvān. The Middle Persian name derives from Avestan zruvan-, "time", which is grammatically without gender.
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Remembering the menorah was 7shape as well. Goes back to the gorgon, as medusa was said to be a plasma event of fossilization.

The tribal tattoo in the link is similar to the morning star symbol in the americas
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The morning star symbol goes back to this story:

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In the Legend of the Suns, Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli attempts to shoot Tonatiuh, the sun god, with arrows, but misses and is shot himself, being transformed into the god of obsidian and coldness, Itztlacoliuhqui.

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In Aztec mythology, Tonatiuh "Movement of the Sun") was the sun god.[1] The Aztec people considered him the leader of Tollan, heaven. He was also known as the fifth sun, because the Aztecs believed that he was the sun that took over when the fourth sun was expelled from the sky.

Remembering the sacrifices made to the sun and morning star was because of homeopathy knowing that surface life was destroyed in catastrophic events in the past so the sacrifice of the little for the whole in appeasement for the future.

Tollan being heaven is interesting:

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In the K'iche' epic Popul Vuh, the first people created are gathered at Tollan, the place of seven caves, where they receive their languages and their gods.

The place of the seven caves goes right back to Chicomoztoc.

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Created and left out of heaven, given language/action and purpose/path of the gods.
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Chessboard of forever

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The morning star red horn is named so because of him making his hair into a long red braid.

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Red Horn eventually took a red haired giant woman as a wife. Archaeologists have speculated that Red Horn is a mythic figure in Mississippian art, represented on a number of Southeastern Ceremonial Complex (SECC) artifacts.[8] Hall has shown that the mythic cycle of Red Horn and his sons has some interesting analogies with the Hero Twins mythic cycle of Mesoamerica

Interesting took a giant as wife because he helped the humans by contest with a race of giants that ate them, lol, race being key as not all giants ate humans.
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In this sura, God (Allah) takes an oath by the sky and At-Tariq(the piercing star) to say that there is an assigned watcher over every human being and all the deeds and sins done by human beings are being recorded. Allah then asks the human beings to think about how they were created. Allah then goes on to say that he has created human beings from the gushing water flowing between the backbone and the ribs. Allah then reminds the human beings about the Judgment Day, the day when all the secrets would be revealed. On that day (Judgment Day), human beings would have no power and no one would help them.

The morning star main function is to help human beings.
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lol, to the symbol
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Why has Kali shaped the future of technology?
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Perhaps by trapping all the heads..that are about to roll. I welcome her purge. May their passing cleanse the world.
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Notice she is a seven shape. Four arms, two legs, one head

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The chicomoztoc

The gnostics were really good remote viewers and empathic telepaths of organic life and if they had the science today it would probably not look like aeons and archons to them, lol
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The gap(deadspace) of nonmaterial going into material is a spiral form. The sacred spiral represented more than the constructs of space and time. The middle being formlessness. Born out of the middle one puts on the garments of space and time which causes one to take on mind. The more one spirals out the more on takes on form through experience and conditioning from the environment. One becomes encrusted with the addictions of time. The mind is a function of time which causes form out of formlessness.-Star woman info on shapeshifters
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lol
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Note branch of the gnostics was this:

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In Zurvanism, Zurvan was perceived as the god of infinite time and space and was aka ("one", "alone"). Zurvan was portrayed as a transcendental and neutral god, without passion, and one for whom there was no distinction between good or evil. The name 'Zurvan' is a normalized rendition of the word, which in Middle Persian appears as either Zurvān, Zruvān or Zarvān. The Middle Persian name derives from Avestan zruvan-, "time", which is grammatically without gender.
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Remembering the menorah was 7shape as well. Goes back to the gorgon, as medusa was said to be a plasma event of fossilization.

The tribal tattoo in the link is similar to the morning star symbol in the americas
[link to cogniarchae.com (secure)]

The morning star symbol goes back to this story:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

In the Legend of the Suns, Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli attempts to shoot Tonatiuh, the sun god, with arrows, but misses and is shot himself, being transformed into the god of obsidian and coldness, Itztlacoliuhqui.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

In Aztec mythology, Tonatiuh "Movement of the Sun") was the sun god.[1] The Aztec people considered him the leader of Tollan, heaven. He was also known as the fifth sun, because the Aztecs believed that he was the sun that took over when the fourth sun was expelled from the sky.

Remembering the sacrifices made to the sun and morning star was because of homeopathy knowing that surface life was destroyed in catastrophic events in the past so the sacrifice of the little for the whole in appeasement for the future.

Tollan being heaven is interesting:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

In the K'iche' epic Popul Vuh, the first people created are gathered at Tollan, the place of seven caves, where they receive their languages and their gods.

The place of the seven caves goes right back to Chicomoztoc.

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Created and left out of heaven, given language/action and purpose/path of the gods.
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Just finished watching this scene..


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The Golden Path

The Golden Path ("Secher Nbiw" in the ancient Egyptian language) was an expansive prescient interpretation that was only visible to the Kwisatz Haderach. It foretold the fluid events of the future, both great and small. More profoundly, however, it revealed an optimum path through the countless threads of cause and effect that were encountered by the human race.
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Interesting it is called golden path
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Kwisatz Haderach

Kwisatz Haderach was a term used primarily by the Bene Gesserit. It was an old Chakobsa term that translated literally as "Shortening of the Way".

The Bene Gesserit desire to uncover this knowledge and its associated powers drove them to initiate a long-running genetic breeding program that would yield a male with mental powers capable of bridging space and time, and that he would be under direct control of the Sisterhood. The Bene Gesserit knew that, not only would their Kwisatz Haderach possess Other Memory on both the male and female side, but that he would be able to predict the future precisely. He would be Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother, Mentat, and Guild Navigator, all in one being.

After the emergence of this male - Paul Atreides - the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once", and became synonymous with Paul.

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hmm


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Spoiler

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Just finished watching this scene..


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Lol, headless robot
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Kwisatz Haderach

Kwisatz Haderach was a term used primarily by the Bene Gesserit. It was an old Chakobsa term that translated literally as "Shortening of the Way".

The Bene Gesserit desire to uncover this knowledge and its associated powers drove them to initiate a long-running genetic breeding program that would yield a male with mental powers capable of bridging space and time, and that he would be under direct control of the Sisterhood. The Bene Gesserit knew that, not only would their Kwisatz Haderach possess Other Memory on both the male and female side, but that he would be able to predict the future precisely. He would be Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother, Mentat, and Guild Navigator, all in one being.

After the emergence of this male - Paul Atreides - the term Kwisatz Haderach was also understood as meaning "one who can be many places at once", and became synonymous with Paul.

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hmm


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Spoiler


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Save the desert..

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Ender's Game shows the difference between machine and organic approaches to life. Fantasy vs reality
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Ender's Game shows the difference between machine and organic approaches to life. Fantasy vs reality
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Imagination and senses topic of trickery
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Ender's Game shows the difference between machine and organic approaches to life. Fantasy vs reality
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It shows what being tricked/forced to kill..looks like.

AKA..Survival...


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destroyer and savior in one
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Telepathy shows that the queen knew what he was going to do to her species and told him so.
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Feedback on matriarchy topic with morning star
Cosmic dawn and excuse big bang bs:

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Cosmic dawn: astronomers detect signals from first stars in the universe
Astronomers have detected a signal from the first stars as they appeared and illuminated the universe, in observations that have been hailed as “revolutionary”.
The faint radio signals suggest the universe was lifted out of total darkness 180m years after the big bang in a momentous transition known as the cosmic dawn.


The stars were lighting up hundreds of millions of years earlier than thought which will stir a bit more theories of universal thought.

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