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I Think I Stepped into a HUGE Conspiracy Theory When Researching My Genealogy (Lincoln Assassination)

 
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I found that many of my ancestors were "Copperheads" and members of a fraternal order called "The Knights of the Golden Circle."

Many of the members were politicians, judges/lawyers, and pastors. My relatives were the judges and pastors who had very close ties with some notable politicians.

When I looked into the "KGC", it's said to be an imaginary group but it wasn't. It was VERY real and was connected in some way to "The Knights of Pythias."

They were involved in some serious shit during the Civil War and many were even tried for treason. My third great grandfather, who was a pastor, used his church as a "castle" for KGC meetings and was accused of smuggling supplies for the Confederacy in crates of hymnal shipments.

I'm almost positive he did and I know my relative judges did even more. chuckle

Anyway, after what I've found and read, I'm thinking Booth wasn't brought to justice.

My research led me to a verified will and testament and a sworn statement from one of the heirs. It blew my mind.

This is probably old news to veteran conspiracy theorists, but it was new to me (and neat how I found it). I'm still researching, so, if anyone has info to share on this, I'd love to hear it.

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now imagine if you investigate MY genealogy...

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I found some interesting stuff when I researched my genealogy which goes back into the upper aristocratic society of England
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I knew it....

You have Reptilian in your Ancestors....

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Knights of the golden circle were a Group that believed in slavery.

Jessie james was one.
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I descend from a long line of hillbillies and petty criminals.

:)
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Knights of the golden circle were a Group that believed in slavery.

Jessie james was one.
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Yep, they did. Something involving Mexico and slaves.
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Once the war was over and his job was done, old Abe had to be taken care of -- for the nation to heal.


It was a lot bigger than confederates and copperheads.


Nationalism had limits, too.
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I knew it....

You have Reptilian in your Ancestors....

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Knights of the golden circle were a Group that believed in slavery.

Jessie james was one.
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Yep, they did. Something involving Mexico and slaves.
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all of north and south america, not mexico
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My grandfather who was a judge had a close friendship with a politician named Voorhees who was a very vocal Copperhead.
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Knights of the golden circle were a Group that believed in slavery.

Jessie james was one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68953763


Yep, they did. Something involving Mexico and slaves.
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all of north and south america, not mexico
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Oh, I read something about making Mexico part of the confederacy.
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Knights of the golden circle were a Group that believed in slavery.

Jessie james was one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68953763


Yep, they did. Something involving Mexico and slaves.
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all of north and south america, not mexico
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68953763


Oh, I read something about making Mexico part of the confederacy.
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they were a group mostly of texans from England that

hated people of Color..
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Knights of the golden circle is what they used to call a circle jerk.
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I found that many of my ancestors were "Copperheads" and members of a fraternal order called "The Knights of the Golden Circle."

Many of the members were politicians, judges/lawyers, and pastors. My relatives were the judges and pastors who had very close ties with some notable politicians.

When I looked into the "KGC", it's said to be an imaginary group but it wasn't. It was VERY real and was connected in some way to "The Knights of Pythias."

They were involved in some serious shit during the Civil War and many were even tried for treason. My third great grandfather, who was a pastor, used his church as a "castle" for KGC meetings and was accused of smuggling supplies for the Confederacy in crates of hymnal shipments.

I'm almost positive he did and I know my relative judges did even more. chuckle

Anyway, after what I've found and read, I'm thinking Booth wasn't brought to justice.

My research led me to a verified will and testament and a sworn statement from one of the heirs. It blew my mind.

This is probably old news to veteran conspiracy theorists, but it was new to me (and neat how I found it). I'm still researching, so, if anyone has info to share on this, I'd love to hear it.
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Knights of the golden circle is what they used to call a circle jerk.
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At least by now they should be called that.
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kids always want to form their own clubs...
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Once the war was over and his job was done, old Abe had to be taken care of -- for the nation to heal.


It was a lot bigger than confederates and copperheads.


Nationalism had limits, too.
 Quoting: Adytum


True. I'm fascinated by the Civil War period and how much isn't taught in school. I've learned so much by researching my roots and reading actual speeches of that time.
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I descend from a long line of hillbillies and petty criminals.

:)
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Yeah, those are on my maternal side. They're all from West Virginia and Kentucky. I have an aunt (Rutherford) who was married to Floyd McCoy. This is my paternal side.
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So, has anyone heard of this will and testament of a John B. Wilkes who died in India and left a lot of money to the known mistress of Booth and her daughter?
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My ancestors brought the Scottish Rite (Freemasonry) to Canada and the US. My great great... something Grandfather went to jail with Joseph Smith in Carthage Missouri for tax evasion.
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I descend from a long line of hillbillies and petty criminals.

:)
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Yeah, those are on my maternal side. They're all from West Virginia and Kentucky. I have an aunt (Rutherford) who was married to Floyd McCoy. This is my paternal side.
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Careful, TMI
You give relatives names, and it isn't hard to identify you.
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I descend from a long line of hillbillies and petty criminals.

:)
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Yeah, those are on my maternal side. They're all from West Virginia and Kentucky. I have an aunt (Rutherford) who was married to Floyd McCoy. This is my paternal side.
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Careful, TMI
You give relatives names, and it isn't hard to identify you.
 Quoting: SerenaSeesAll


That's soooo far back and not direct so, I'm not concerned. It might narrow me down with about 10,000 others. :)
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Once the war was over and his job was done, old Abe had to be taken care of -- for the nation to heal.


It was a lot bigger than confederates and copperheads.


Nationalism had limits, too.
 Quoting: Adytum


True. I'm fascinated by the Civil War period and how much isn't taught in school. I've learned so much by researching my roots and reading actual speeches of that time.
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Great book for you is The South was Right by Kennedy. Great read, factual, and a reference book. Have you ever read Jefferson Davis' speech?
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Once the war was over and his job was done, old Abe had to be taken care of -- for the nation to heal.


It was a lot bigger than confederates and copperheads.


Nationalism had limits, too.
 Quoting: Adytum


True. I'm fascinated by the Civil War period and how much isn't taught in school. I've learned so much by researching my roots and reading actual speeches of that time.
 Quoting: SAHM


Great book for you is The South was Right by Kennedy. Great read, factual, and a reference book. Have you ever read Jefferson Davis' speech?
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No, but I will. Thanks!
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Once the war was over and his job was done, old Abe had to be taken care of -- for the nation to heal.


It was a lot bigger than confederates and copperheads.


Nationalism had limits, too.
 Quoting: Adytum


True. I'm fascinated by the Civil War period and how much isn't taught in school. I've learned so much by researching my roots and reading actual speeches of that time.
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they were all democrats by the way
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Once the war was over and his job was done, old Abe had to be taken care of -- for the nation to heal.


It was a lot bigger than confederates and copperheads.


Nationalism had limits, too.
 Quoting: Adytum


True. I'm fascinated by the Civil War period and how much isn't taught in school. I've learned so much by researching my roots and reading actual speeches of that time.
 Quoting: SAHM


they were all democrats by the way
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ohyeah
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Lincoln's Assassination was also a manufactured event

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So, has anyone heard of this will and testament of a John B. Wilkes who died in India and left a lot of money to the known mistress of Booth and her daughter?
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Anyone???
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An old lady I know told me Booth was seen in the state of Washington, working at a lumberyard. He did Shakespeare one morning on a stack of lumber, very early, before he thought anyone was there. The theatre was in his blood.
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Knights of the golden circle were a Group that believed in slavery.

Jessie james was one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68953763


Yep, they did. Something involving Mexico and slaves.
 Quoting: SAHM


all of north and south america, not mexico
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still happening?
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