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Boyfriends are over-rated...

 
Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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My personal point of view on this is - it's better to not be married than to be married to the wrong person. Man is a good example of marrying the wrong person - 8 different times.
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01/10/2007 03:19 PM
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live and learn


nine is 'sposed to be a charm
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Date a girl then. How could that go wrong?
Get your ass to Mars. - Total Recall
Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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Date a girl then. How could that go wrong?
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I'm not sexually attracted to women.
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i am
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The one thing I should have prefaced this thread with is:

I've had, for a very long time, an idealist's perspective of love and marriage and what you're supposed to have in your life and how you're supposed to live your life, etc. (as it relates to love and relationships)

That ideal I've always held to high esteem has never manifested in the way I had dreamt it would and I've been let down by my expectations of it all.

Having said that, I've proceeded in life having this hope and desire for it for a long time. At one point I realized, just let all of those expectations go and have fun! Because the other wasn't providing fun and there is definitely pressure from outside of myself to have someone more permanent in my life.

Sometimes I wish I didn't feel as if boyfriends are over-rated. I think someone on the previous page mentioned that the right one probably just hasn't come along yet. Well, perhaps they are very right and someone out there will blow my mind the way I'd always hoped it would happen. Until then, I'm having fun!
 Quoting: Lips Like Sugar

Here's some word of advice to all.
Your life will never be as you want it to.
Never.
You can struggle, and force it, to be as your ideal,
but it will never happen, or be as you wish for very long.

God has a plan for your life, just go with it and accept the flow. Accept the mystery that is your life.
If you really accept this with all your being, your life will be molded better than you could ever dream.
Man 3.0

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life CAN be what you want it to be, if you want it to be
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Nature does not conform to the laws of Man, of Culture; it cannot be contained. Man sees uncontainable nature in Woman--in the liquids that flow from her genitalia during sex and menstruation, from her breasts after childbirth--and is threatened, even as he is deeply drawn to what he lacks and finds fascinating. Man turns toward the sky, toward Apollo, and and invests his energy in transcendental logic. But it is all in vain. Western culture is not what Man think it is. Judeo-Christianity never conquered paganism but instead appropriated then tried to sublimate it. Paganism manages to manifest itself in the popular iconologies of the culture and continues to suck the life out of what remains of the West's patriarchal ideology.

The male ego is a sexual persona (the Latin word for mask)--one of many personae adopted at different times and for different reasons by different people--that reduplicates itself in phallic monuments and skyscrapers (stairways to the sky, the sun, to Heaven), in religious doctrines that designate women as the servants of men, in plays were "shrews" are to be tamed. By controlling "their women," men are attempting to control "nature," the ultimate representation of POWER. But deep down they know that, like their own penises that shrivel into a flaccid strands of flesh once orgasm has been achieved, their own power is fleeting. So they fight and fight the unwinnable war--and Western Culture is the dazzling carnage their havoc has wreaked.
Man 3.0

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ummmmm, there is something else to consider. woman has a brain and a spirit. woman is not vulva alone
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You aren't a princess. There are 3.5 billion other women out there. Women in america are known the world over for their greed, selfishness and boorish behavior. There is a reason why women from foreign countries are lining up to marry american men but you don't see the same for foreign men because your minds are poisoned and you have forgotten what it means to be a woman. Most american women are just sad xerox's of men. A very poor imitation.
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I think America takes the prize for the number of mail order brides as well as the number of divorces.

Why shouldn't a man treat a woman like a princess? And by princess I'm not talking financially. Why shouldn't a woman treat her man by like a prince? Both should, for one another.

A mail order bride is after the wallet probably more than any American girl, ever. Maybe it's a male control issue. I don't know.

Why aren't there foreign men lining up to hire American mail order brides? More self respect, maybe?
Man 3.0

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nothing at all wrong with treating a woman like a queen imo
Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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You aren't a princess. There are 3.5 billion other women out there. Women in america are known the world over for their greed, selfishness and boorish behavior. There is a reason why women from foreign countries are lining up to marry american men but you don't see the same for foreign men because your minds are poisoned and you have forgotten what it means to be a woman. Most american women are just sad xerox's of men. A very poor imitation.


I think America takes the prize for the number of mail order brides as well as the number of divorces.

Why shouldn't a man treat a woman like a princess? And by princess I'm not talking financially. Why shouldn't a woman treat her man by like a prince? Both should, for one another.

A mail order bride is after the wallet probably more than any American girl, ever. Maybe it's a male control issue. I don't know.

Why aren't there foreign men lining up to hire American mail order brides? More self respect, maybe?
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Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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Man, you're a man of experience. Why did it not work out 8 different times if you treated them like a queen?
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cuz they wanted to follow their own dream. the word love, to me, means just wnat it says - if you love someone you help them attain their drema and their goal, and wish them well and help them along the way

except for the ones that listen to mother-in-laws talking dollar signs and ferrari dreams that is
Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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So did you help them live their dream and then dispose of them when you were finished or did they help you live your dream and then moved on when they found something else they were looking for?

Who did more of the divorce initiating? You or your ex-wives?
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Man 3.0

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the mother in laws (and other inlaws) initiated all but 2 based soley upon greed and manipulating their high maintenence daughters

the apache ex wanted to follow her spiritual calling and felt that could only b done alone

ditto for the chinese ex
Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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Re: Boyfriends are over-rated...
There are a lot of women out there that can support themselves financially, that men aren't interested in.

There's something to be said for men being attracted to women that need to be taken care of.

Maybe it goes back to what the AC was saying about manliness... financially successful women or women that can take care of themselves are viewed as too manly. Or maybe it's competition of some sort. The women like this aren't out to do just one thing, take care of their man. They're also capable of taking care of themselves too.
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Man 3.0

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i certainly don't view successful women as too manly, or intimidating, or whatever ...... it takes all types tho. some guys want a robot, or a stepford wife. or a puppy dog, or whatever, some don't
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OP,

I'm a single female. I agree with everything you have said 110%. Why settle?

I don't believe in divorce, either. I'd rather never be married.

That comedy central thingie was pretty funny, though.
Man 3.0

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competitiveness?

dunno how that should be - who wouldn't want do do whatever they could to help the one that is with them and cheer them on any time they succeed

football is competition - love is not, imo
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Sure they are...so are girlfriends?
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OP sounds like a fookin lezza! lol
Man 3.0

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Re: Boyfriends are over-rated...
inlaws are dang sure over-rated
Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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What I meant by competition was financially... there are a lot of men that make less than, say for example, me. On the other hand there are a lot that make considerably more than I do. The percentage of men that I meet who earn less than I do is considerably greater than those that do earn more. The ones that earn more are generally already married. The ones that earn less, have a much bigger problem with it than myself. Men don't want their woman taking care of them in the same way.

Again, all from my experience and all of us live very different lives, I'm well aware...
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any kinda competition is, imo by definition, not love

who cares how much someone makes, exept inlaws care, especially mother-in-laws of course ..... and settlement attorneys naturally

if she makes more then its probably because she earns it and deserves it and therefoer her intellect and talent should be confirmed, celebrated and nurtured
Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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Doesn't that depend on the level of competition? Did you never play tennis or golf or any other kind of game with your former wives? That's competition. A different degree, but still under the same definition.
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sure i did....wasn't any competition tho. it was fun. if two are one competition ceases

one ex usta wax me at tennis all the time, she was REALLY good at it ... good for her, it was one of her joys. had i wanted to compete i would have served it directly at her face each time. competition is what transpires between opponents, not between beating places, imo
Lips Like Sugar  (OP)

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Yeah, I agree with those sentiments.
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Man 3.0

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Re: Boyfriends are over-rated...
dated a woman once who was making 9 mil a picture at the time - she was hung up and very insecure about it - what did i care ..... she coulda sold pencils for a living .... i wasn't dating her talent, i was dating HER .... there is a difference
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There is an co-ed organization that I am in (and have been in off and on for 20 years) where the women are independent types, financially stable on their own, decently good looking, and well educated. They also as a group make extremely lousy wives, though great short term girlfriends.

All those things that make them great in the oranization and easy on the eyes, their looks, their independence, their intelligence, their self career motivational spirit ... also causes them to be absolutely lousy when it comes to the give and take of a long term partnership ... be it a very long term stable relationship or even marriage.

In the organization I am in I certainly enjoy the women I interact with ... but I wouldn't touch them with a 10' pole for any serious relationship (and didn't when I was dating and looking for a spouse). Guaranteed grief city.

There are plenty of GREAT guys out there ... but you seem to be expecting some great prince who has so many things going for him that he meets your high expectations (and probably also that he can exceed your own successes in life). In the real world those type of guys have PLENTY of women knocking on their door so they tend to get moderate to big ego's and are actually lousy when it comes to being good partners for a long term relationship. Trouble pop's up in the relationship ... heck why deal with it? it is easier to just get a new girl friend (or maybe YOU think, like those women in that organization I am in ... that it is easier to just get a new Boy Toy).

The "Princess" (or Prince) mindset is NOT one that results in good long term relationship with the opposite sex since it is NOT a mindset that allows the compromises that any long term relationship requires.

Princesses are GREAT for a short term "roll in the hay" relationship ... but lousy candidates for any long term deal, and most guys quickly come to understand that dynamic of life (and if they don't they will quickly regret not having learned that lesson early).
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(and probably also that he can exceed your own successes in life).
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