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God says the Messiah will fear God, Christians says the Messiah will be God.

 
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Isaiah 11:1-5

11 There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse,
and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit.
2 And the Spirit of YHWH shall rest upon him,
the Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and might,
the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of YHWH.
3 And his delight shall be in the fear of YHWH.

He shall not judge by what his eyes see,
or decide disputes by what his ears hear,


So which one is it? Are Christians the ones telling lies here or is God?
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but with righteousness he shall judge the poor,
and decide with equity for the meek of the earth;
and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth,
and with the breath of his lips he shall kill the wicked.
5 Righteousness shall be the belt of his waist,
and faithfulness the belt of his loins.
6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb,
and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together;
and a little child shall lead them.
7 The cow and the bear shall graze;
their young shall lie down together;
and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra,
and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den.
9 They shall not hurt or destroy
in all my holy mountain;
for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea.

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Scary huh?
“THE LIPS OF WISDOM ARE CLOSED, EXCEPT TO THE
EARS OF UNDERSTANDING” Kybalion
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Scary huh?
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Dunno about scary, but it seems someone dropped the ball here.
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thats the second coming.
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
Psalms 85:11

There is no solution to the Jewish problem.
There is no answer to the Jewish question.

Judaism is the solution, Judaism is the answer.
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No Christians believe he was separate and subordinate to God. Jews have been taught throughout the centuries that the Roman Catholic Church is Christianity, but that is not true. You're confounding the RC version of the trinity with Christian beliefs.
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thats the second coming.
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The fearing or the being? tounge
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thats the second coming.
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The fearing or the being? tounge
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he came in the flesh, to take his seat at the right hand of the father, NOT at the father's seat, so he will return as a human who fears.

am I an apologetic now?
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
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No Christians believe he was separate and subordinate to God. Jews have been taught throughout the centuries that the Roman Catholic Church is Christianity, but that is not true. You're confounding the RC version of the trinity with Christian beliefs.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Arians believe that. Christians don't. And those beliefs aren't exclusive for the RCC.
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thats the second coming.
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The fearing or the being? tounge
 Quoting: Monotheism


he came in the flesh, to take his seat at the right hand of the father, NOT at the father's seat, so he will return as a human who fears.

am I an apologetic now?
 Quoting: Dr VIP 1


Still somewhat too coherent, but you're getting there. Now you only need to contradict yourself every 5 minutes and add some insults for for good measure.
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you really hate Jesus, and peoples claim that he is God on Earth don't you...
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That jesus is god stuff is over the top. It seems like a frantic attempt to expand their territory, or worse, a futile attempt to replace god. I dont like it.
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No Christians believe he was separate and subordinate to God. Jews have been taught throughout the centuries that the Roman Catholic Church is Christianity, but that is not true. You're confounding the RC version of the trinity with Christian beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45713215


Jehovah's Witnesses and Arians believe that. Christians don't. And those beliefs aren't exclusive for the RCC.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Mormons don't believe in the trinity either, and neither does the Eastern Orthodox Church (Russia, Greece etc). You're talking about Protestant denominations (like Lutherans, baptists, Presbyterians etc) that are derived from Catholicism. I think a lot of evangelicals don't believe in the trinity concept either. This idea comes from the council of nicea.
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you really hate Jesus, and peoples claim that he is God on Earth don't you...
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Hey, look everyone, a Christian that changes subject instead of answering a straightforward question! I've never seen anything like it! Alert the media, stop the presses!
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The Messiah, Jesus, doesn't show up again until after Armageddon and the Tribulations.
Who is this Messiah they talk about? Unless of course your a Satanist and think the devil is the Messiah and if so ...your dead wrong.
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No Christians believe he was separate and subordinate to God. Jews have been taught throughout the centuries that the Roman Catholic Church is Christianity, but that is not true. You're confounding the RC version of the trinity with Christian beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45713215


Jehovah's Witnesses and Arians believe that. Christians don't. And those beliefs aren't exclusive for the RCC.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Mormons don't believe in the trinity either, and neither does the Eastern Orthodox Church (Russia, Greece etc). You're talking about Protestant denominations (like Lutherans, baptists, Presbyterians etc) that are derived from Catholicism. I think a lot of evangelicals don't believe in the trinity concept either. This idea comes from the council of nicea.
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Huh? Orthodox believe in the trinity.

[link to orthodoxwiki.org (secure)]

Evangelicals believe in it too, or at least pay lip-service to it, but they're usually uneducated when it comes to their own doctrines. Mormon believe in a different trinity, not the Christian trinity, but not the God of Abraham either. Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christians. Then there's Oeness Pentecostals that are modalistic.
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The anti christ strikes again
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No Christians believe he was separate and subordinate to God. Jews have been taught throughout the centuries that the Roman Catholic Church is Christianity, but that is not true. You're confounding the RC version of the trinity with Christian beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45713215


Jehovah's Witnesses and Arians believe that. Christians don't. And those beliefs aren't exclusive for the RCC.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Mormons don't believe in the trinity either, and neither does the Eastern Orthodox Church (Russia, Greece etc). You're talking about Protestant denominations (like Lutherans, baptists, Presbyterians etc) that are derived from Catholicism. I think a lot of evangelicals don't believe in the trinity concept either. This idea comes from the council of nicea.
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Huh? Orthodox believe in the trinity.

[link to orthodoxwiki.org (secure)]

Evangelicals believe in it too, or at least pay lip-service to it, but they're usually uneducated when it comes to their own doctrines. Mormon believe in a different trinity, not the Christian trinity, but not the God of Abraham either. Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christians. Then there's Oeness Pentecostals that are modalistic.
 Quoting: Monotheism


after dealing with people like you, they go back, lick their wounds, remodel their doctrines and then call those who dont subscribe to the remodelling "not true christians"
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
Psalms 85:11

There is no solution to the Jewish problem.
There is no answer to the Jewish question.

Judaism is the solution, Judaism is the answer.
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I believe in God, and his son Jesus Christ, i do not believe in the Trinity however...i believe the Holy Spirit is a separate thing.
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The anti christ strikes again
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The antichrist wrote Isaiah? We need to alert the proper authorities asap! The world must know!
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Arians believe that. Christians don't. And those beliefs aren't exclusive for the RCC.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Mormons don't believe in the trinity either, and neither does the Eastern Orthodox Church (Russia, Greece etc). You're talking about Protestant denominations (like Lutherans, baptists, Presbyterians etc) that are derived from Catholicism. I think a lot of evangelicals don't believe in the trinity concept either. This idea comes from the council of nicea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345415


Huh? Orthodox believe in the trinity.

[link to orthodoxwiki.org (secure)]

Evangelicals believe in it too, or at least pay lip-service to it, but they're usually uneducated when it comes to their own doctrines. Mormon believe in a different trinity, not the Christian trinity, but not the God of Abraham either. Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christians. Then there's Oeness Pentecostals that are modalistic.
 Quoting: Monotheism


after dealing with people like you, they go back, lick their wounds, remodel their doctrines and then call those who dont subscribe to the remodelling "not true christians"
 Quoting: Dr VIP 1


In my experience sola fide Evangelicals are the worst when it comes to arbitrarily branding "not real Christians". And what's ironic is all you have to do to become a "real Christian" in their eyes is to merelt believe and profess with your mouth, and you're saved and eternally secure. Still they manage to find these additional, hidden clauses that allows them to randomly brand people as "not real Christians" and "false teacher" left and right, over the smallest, most irrelevant doctrinal disagreements.

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I have mixed feelings about the whole concept
On one Hand he seemed to have the Power and Glory at his finger tips.
But stuff like after our acting job, he visibly winced when I suggested He was God, or that time not long after the resurrection, when we made tracks, he or I suspect it was him, for all intensive appearances, if not a close follower or disciple, referred to himself as something not so infinitely Divine, "The Son of Man"
He said "So to must the son of man also..." go this way or take this path, I have a memory block, he was stern and grim, it was very vivid while both intimidating and astounding, especially the way he came from out of nowhere, like someplace unseen among the scattered refugee line going along the route out of town, came up suddenly beside us and strode past when he said it, as if knowing exactly what I meant, because I was getting distressed at how on the one hand he is said to be the savior and all this miracle crap, yet everybody who gets close is eaten for breakfast by the same self entitled a-wipes all his teachings seemed to go against.
He seems so much like the last gasp, at the hour of death being microwaved by aliens, type salvation expert, but so little on the intervention front, it's a real challenge to maintain any faith or hope, especially while the body parts fly across my computer monitor, and the War Pigs take the World to the brink of existence. It all seems like the World just wasn't meant for this World, and the Savior under contract, super power starchild is an eternal no-show on the permanently disabled list.

yes I'm bitching, sue me. I may not be perfect but there's sub-fiend phantoms lurching left and right getting away with murder and feeding on the souls of anyone and everyone that looks to the Heavens and wonders what it all means, instead of going about, f-ing it all up on a plan to come crying for help if they lose their coin-flip wishy washy half assed mockery of a charade that they tried so very hard and got blessed from above, because it's just so much B.S> it makes me want to Puke my guts out all over Cross boy.
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The anti christ strikes again
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64396852


The antichrist wrote Isaiah? We need to alert the proper authorities asap! The world must know!
 Quoting: Monotheism


the antichrist is going to proclaim he is G-d in the temple of Ezekiel.

and thats totally different than christians proclaiming jesus is G-d.
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
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Judaism is the solution, Judaism is the answer.
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Mormon believe in a different trinity, not the Christian trinity, but not the God of Abraham either.

Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christians.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Consider?

1 + 1 = 2
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The Lord Is

All fear Him outside of delusion
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you really hate Jesus, and peoples claim that he is God on Earth don't you...
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Hey, look everyone, a Christian that changes subject instead of answering a straightforward question! I've never seen anything like it! Alert the media, stop the presses!
 Quoting: Monotheism


is that worse than someone that deletes the posts of those that do answer?
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Mormon believe in a different trinity, not the Christian trinity, but not the God of Abraham either.

Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christians.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Consider?

1 + 1 = 2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72855677


Yes, consider. It's not like Christianity is a homogeneous religion anyway.

1+1+1 = 3

Thread: Christians, explain how the trinity isn't polytheism.

Thread: Why do Christians need to pretend the trinity isn't polytheism?
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The anti christ strikes again
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64396852


The antichrist wrote Isaiah? We need to alert the proper authorities asap! The world must know!
 Quoting: Monotheism


the antichrist is going to proclaim he is G-d in the temple of Ezekiel.

and thats totally different than christians proclaiming jesus is G-d.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 1


The antichrist is already "proclaiming"

The "temple" has been desecrated since Abraham prepared Issac
for sacrifice.
wmMmw
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Proverbs 8:13

The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
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you really hate Jesus, and peoples claim that he is God on Earth don't you...
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Hey, look everyone, a Christian that changes subject instead of answering a straightforward question! I've never seen anything like it! Alert the media, stop the presses!
 Quoting: Monotheism


is that worse than someone that deletes the posts of those that do answer?
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I wouldn't know, I don't delete posts answering the topic.
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The Messiah, Jesus, doesn't show up again until after Armageddon and the Tribulations.
Who is this Messiah they talk about? Unless of course your a Satanist and think the devil is the Messiah and if so ...your dead wrong.
 Quoting: Chosen1too


Jesus is there at Armageddon isn't he?





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