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Message Subject The role of myth in the bible

Poster Handle Dr VIP 1

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no, remember, your argument was that the bible is not historically accurate.
in that regard I have forced you into a dead end.

excuse me, but this is exactly what I meant by saying you have no foundation.
you are basically relaying the core pagan teaching (that my bible fights against) that we cant know absolute truth and absolute lie.
and whether you like it or not, whether you admit it or not, this teaching leads to slavery.

and yes, I do admit, as I has many times over, that the bible like pagan myths, does teach spiritual mystical wisdom and that its purpose is to unify the whole world and free us from bondage as the Israelites were freed from bondage in egypt the sister of babylon, but the difference is that these pagan teachings argue no absolute truth and lie, and that man CAN know absolute good and evil (tree of knowledge of good and evil snake)

btw... a very wise Rabbi told me that eventually I will run into to this tie has we have now, when trying to debate the bible.
but he also said that no, it does not prove there is no absolute truth and absolute lie as the pagan academia people so want it to be so.
and the way to solve it and show the bible is true, historically accurate and spread its message and thus defeat babylon and its bondage, is by using something the academia and paganism doesnt have.
the physical people and their physical seed Israel, who are the witnesses of the bible.

but... I dont know how to use that tool, maybe someday I will learn.

oh, and thats why academia is obsessed with trying to delegetimize the physical Jews as the original Jews of the bible, thats why rome is obsessed with making Israel into a spiritual none physical nation and give it to christians who are not linked to the bible and cannot be its witnesses.
thats why the jesuits are obsessed with promoting lies among white europeans and afro americans that they are the real Israelites and Jews are impostors, as if to take away our levearage over them and our one ultimate proof that cannot be denied.
and this is why G-d has sworn to preserve the Jews forever!

but again... I still dont know how to use that tool.
consider yourself lucky

Quoting: Dr VIP 1

Doc, there are some interesting and fruitful lines of inquiry in your post here. I would be happy to explore them, but in order to do so, I need you to stop lumping me in with all these others you speak of. Take me as I am, not as you think I am based on comparisons to others. That way we can explore where I am coming from instead of my having to argue against misplaced perceptions.

I am not arguing those pagan teachings you assign to me. But on one level, you are correct when you say I have no foundation. It's just not in the way you state it.

In short, I do not have a foundation. I am foundation. More accurately, I just am.

Quoting: As I am 72882530

OMG I wish I had some weed right now...

yes you are you are.
but I am also I am I am.
if you were JUST I am.
then... I wouldnt be.

there must be some foundation for both of us to be.

and also, I must continue to argue that absolute truth and lie do have a place in a unified none dualistic existence.

Quoting: Dr VIP 1

Doc, there is some great stuff here. It may take some weed to grok it.

When I say I just am, I mean it in the sense of just being and not being this or that. The first mistake, the fall if you will, is away from the I am into I am this or that.

But as we have this discussion, there's a limitation of language built in, so keep that in mind because as just as all metaphor falls apart at some point, of there wouldn't be a need for the metaphor in the first place, terms that mean one thing is one context, shift in the deeper or higher context.

Yes, I am and you are, but at the same time, I am and you are not. Me, neither. But I am all the same. While this sounds like bong bullshit, it's really the core and it's in the unpacking that it becomes clear. The key is identification. When you think of you over there reading this and me over here typing it, these are waves in the Sea. Waves rise and fall but the Sea is not affected.

I will elaborate tomorrow, but I have to go now.

Quoting: As I am 72882530

I would say then... that the sea is your foundation, or perhaps this is a metaphor which would eventually collapse.

ok... good night.

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