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Being a former ISP of 22 years, I understand the framework of the Internet and am very concerned about the ICANN hand over to the U.N. and yesterday I wrote and article about it.

I was examining my webstats this afternoon and noticed that I got an unusual visitor, JP Morgan! Which now makes this transfer a bit suspicious. Below is my followup article. I only post a portion, as the pic of the visitor is at the link.


Imagine this scenario, it is the Friday September 30th and the Obama administration is handing over the DNS zone files of the Internet from ICANN to the U.N. What could go wrong?

In speaking with several Network Administrators, maybe noting, but maybe everything.

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers basically translates IP (Internet Protocol) addresses into domain names for their Domain Name System (DNS).

So if one had a domain www.internet.com it would also have a numerical IP address that would be associated, i.e., 172.16.254.1 = internet.com.

This move has been planned for years, so it comes as no surprise that it is being moved outside of the U.S., but what is surprising is the fact that the U.N. is taking control of the ICANN DNS, as the U.N. was never in the equation!<snip>
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I doubt anything will happen, as we all know nothing ever happens.. but..

Odd timing that it is right before an election.

Hmmmm
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I doubt anything will happen, as we all know nothing ever happens.. but..

Odd timing that it is right before an election.

Hmmmm
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Why would JP Morgan be visiting that article???

"Another notable incident that is happening on that very same night is that China's renminbi is being added to the IMF (International Monetary Fund) SDR (Special Drawing Rights) along with the euro, yen, dollar, and pound. While the addition of the renminbi is not a reason for financial markets to crash, it is a consideration as China has stated that they will be backing their currency in Gold and will not exchange their currency for dollars. Whereas our USD is the petrodollar reserve currency and is a fiat currency."
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CRASH
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"The internet is more a series of tubes, not trucks."

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The way things are heading - Thread: Kids Free Gaming Website Luring Children to Play Sexually Explicit Adult Porn Content/Games -maybe it would be a good thing... 1dunno1
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Great thread Granny

Right to be concerned too
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IMO it seems plausible, what better way to restrict information.

I know it sounds crazy and "we" have been saying something like this for years, but the current info we are getting is almost confirmation that it will happen.

I guess the real problem is, so many things run off the internet (like banking and debit/credit purchases). Will they be able to crash the citizens Internet but keep the infrastructures up? (Does that make sense? I'm still suffering from jet lag, and it's hell lol)
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IMO it seems plausible, what better way to restrict information.

I know it sounds crazy and "we" have been saying something like this for years, but the current info we are getting is almost confirmation that it will happen.

I guess the real problem is, so many things run off the internet (like banking and debit/credit purchases). Will they be able to crash the citizens Internet but keep the infrastructures up? (Does that make sense? I'm still suffering from jet lag, and it's hell lol)
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Don't forget that JP Morgan also handles EBT.
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Stimulus bill includes $7.2 billion for broadband
President Obama signs the economic recovery package, which includes billions to be spent on broadband within the next two years.

President Obama signed into law on Tuesday the $787 billion stimulus package, which includes $7.2 billion for broadband grant and loan programs.

Both the House of Representatives and the Senate on Friday approved a conference report that reconciled the two chambers' versions of the bill.

The bulk of the funds directed at broadband--$4.7 billion--will be distributed through a program run by the Commerce Department, while $2.5 billion will fall under the jurisdiction of the Agriculture Department, giving particular emphasis to broadband deployment in rural areas.



[link to www.cnet.com]

Is it possible that has built a SECOND infrastructure?

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Dangerous Transfer: The President’s ICANN Internet Problem

"The potential harm to American interests, both in terms of national security as well as American commerce, is palpable. Imagine, for instance, ICANN’s future decision to transfer oversight of the “.mil” domain that is currently used by our Department of Defense, to Russia, or to assign “.gov” currently under the handling of our federal government, to China? Under the White House plan, ICANN would have the unfettered discretion to do that, and more, and the United States government would have no authority to stop it."

...

"This dangerous plan of the White House is further compounded by a history of problems that have plagued ICANN, both in decisions that it has made that have run contrary to American interests, as well as difficulties within its own operations. In May, during hearings held by the House of Representatives, Amazon Vice-President Paul Misener testified how ICANN’s ruled against that U.S. tech company’s logical bid for the “.Amazon” domain, granting the domain to Brazil and Peru instead, a decision that apparently ran contrary to ICANN’s own rules. Further, as a result of a technical audit, ICANN has also admitted that between April 17, 2013 and March 17, 2014, security and confidentiality of its internal systems were breached at least 300 times."<snip>
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If ICANN is experiencing these problems, why would they not be COMPOUNDED with the U.N.?

Wake up folks, as it appears, it is about to HIT THE FAN!

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How do we access WISP network? Is this part of the Deep Net?
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Get this fascist talk out of here. Bad actors everywhere. Shut down the internet because of it??? Either you are one ignorant Aussie or you are working nefariously. Going to give the benefit of the doubt and call you an idiot.
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This is a great read.

It explains why America is the 'stakeholder' of the Internet.


No, Barack Obama Isn't Handing Control of the Internet Over to China

"In reality, the U.S. government got to choose for two reasons, neither of which had to do with any legal authority. First, the government made sure that there wasn’t really a choice for anyone to make: the ultimate ballot it was to cast had only one entry on it. When three entities stepped forward to be the new IANA, the Department of Commerce persuaded them to negotiate with one another until only one proposal was left. Choosing something from a list of one is not controversial. Second, nearly everyone concerned about the future of the Internet wanted certainty and stability. So the U.S. government’s “decision” to recognize ICANN as the new IANA in 1998 was welcomed as a rallying cry to get a move on with the allocation of numbers and names. ICANN, a California non-profit, had a Byzantine set of by-laws to make Madison proud: Board members were appointed from various constituencies (“stakeholders” in governance parlance) and from various regions of the world. But it is not run by the governments of the world. Many had seen the way the UN operated and had little interest in replicating it. And in 1998, the U.S. government’s recognition of ICANN took the form of a cooperative agreement between ICANN and the Commerce Department spelling out certain minimal responsibilities–and a nominal way for the U.S. government to pull the plug if something went terribly wrong.

With this background in mind, we can process the news that the U.S. government is letting that agreement ultimately lapse."<snip>
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How do we access WISP network? Is this part of the Deep Net?
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No the "Deep Net" is just a layered network that still relies on ICANN Domain Name Service (DNS).
When, and if, the Internet goes it will, most likely, be an issue of IP Addressing ... At least that is how I would take it down ... hmm.

WISP NETWORKS ARE DISASTER COMMUNICATIONS
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WECAT | WISP NETWORKS | WIKIHOW
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Unfortunately very few of these networks have been setup. But to find a WISP and see if they have their Intranet setup, see if there is one in your area:

FIND A WISP
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Being a former ISP of 22 years, I understand the framework of the Internet and am very concerned about the ICANN hand over to the U.N. and yesterday I wrote and article about it.

I was examining my webstats this afternoon and noticed that I got an unusual visitor, JP Morgan! Which now makes this transfer a bit suspicious. Below is my followup article. I only post a portion, as the pic of the visitor is at the link.


Imagine this scenario, it is the Friday September 30th and the Obama administration is handing over the DNS zone files of the Internet from ICANN to the U.N. What could go wrong?

In speaking with several Network Administrators, maybe noting, but maybe everything.

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers basically translates IP (Internet Protocol) addresses into domain names for their Domain Name System (DNS).

So if one had a domain www.internet.com it would also have a numerical IP address that would be associated, i.e., 172.16.254.1 = internet.com.

This move has been planned for years, so it comes as no surprise that it is being moved outside of the U.S., but what is surprising is the fact that the U.N. is taking control of the ICANN DNS, as the U.N. was never in the equation!<snip>
[link to wecat.org]
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The big brother wants to be more big, the backbones are ready to "crash" at any moment
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It has already crashed

Good luck to everyone
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Being a former ISP of 22 years, I understand the framework of the Internet and am very concerned about the ICANN hand over to the U.N. and yesterday I wrote and article about it.

I was examining my webstats this afternoon and noticed that I got an unusual visitor, JP Morgan! Which now makes this transfer a bit suspicious. Below is my followup article. I only post a portion, as the pic of the visitor is at the link.


Imagine this scenario, it is the Friday September 30th and the Obama administration is handing over the DNS zone files of the Internet from ICANN to the U.N. What could go wrong?

In speaking with several Network Administrators, maybe noting, but maybe everything.

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers basically translates IP (Internet Protocol) addresses into domain names for their Domain Name System (DNS).

So if one had a domain www.internet.com it would also have a numerical IP address that would be associated, i.e., 172.16.254.1 = internet.com.

This move has been planned for years, so it comes as no surprise that it is being moved outside of the U.S., but what is surprising is the fact that the U.N. is taking control of the ICANN DNS, as the U.N. was never in the equation!<snip>
[link to wecat.org]
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The big brother wants to be more big, the backbones are ready to "crash" at any moment
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Stimulus bill includes $7.2 billion for broadband
President Obama signs the economic recovery package, which includes billions to be spent on broadband within the next two years. [link to www.cnet.com]

Maybe they have a 'secondary' network ...

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Probably.

I've asked my senators and congressmen to get off their collective asses and do something...but crickets is all I'm getting.

Now do you understand why I switched from Cruz to Trump?

Because I'm tired of damn crickets!
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And just as an FYI - a Local web server is not going to pull up GLP, should the Internet be disabled. But, because the WISP network is geographically located to its customer base by 'line-of-sight' it will allow for a BBS (bulletin board service) and connect every 'user' to it that is connected to the WISP. The WISP can also hand out www pages/.html so that there is local information ...
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And just as an FYI - a Local web server is not going to pull up GLP, should the Internet be disabled. But, because the WISP network is geographically located to its customer base by 'line-of-sight' it will allow for a BBS (bulletin board service) and connect every 'user' to it that is connected to the WISP. The WISP can also hand out www pages/.html so that there is local information ...
 Quoting: Ozark Granny


Question:

If they kill internet as we know it, can the users (people) make a "peasant networks" using local radios, personal wifis/routers and blue-tooth?
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And just as an FYI - a Local web server is not going to pull up GLP, should the Internet be disabled. But, because the WISP network is geographically located to its customer base by 'line-of-sight' it will allow for a BBS (bulletin board service) and connect every 'user' to it that is connected to the WISP. The WISP can also hand out www pages/.html so that there is local information ...
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Question:

If they kill internet as we know it, can the users (people) make a "peasant networks" using local radios, personal wifis/routers and blue-tooth?
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This IS the "peasants network"!
And it was 'touted' by Aneesh Chopra, then, the U.S. Chief Technical Officer as "More bang for the buck" ... Yet very little of the 'stimulus' monies went towards this technology!

With the $7.2B that they awarded other ISP's, WISPs could have networked the entire U.S.!

granny4

They really 'ticked' me off, as my company was involved in this process, so I know from personal experience, and that is why I 'suspect' a secondary network was built.
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Everything Obama did was for a reason. Our last chance folks at freedom. TRUMP
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Everything Obama did was for a reason. Our last chance folks at freedom. TRUMP
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Did you even read the thread?
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This IS the "peasants network"!
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You right, what i'm trying to say if they crash the "peasant network", can we build our own network? a p2p net or similar using smartphones wifis and things like that?
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This IS the "peasants network"!
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You right, what i'm trying to say if they crash the "peasant network", can we build our own network? a p2p net or similar using smartphones wifis and things like that?
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No.

You are describing another layer of the OSI (Open Systems Interconnection model) - [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

You have to have 'something' in-between to make the 'handoff' ... You are missing a 'protocol'.
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Damn, then we are fucked if happens
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I doubt anything will happen, as we all know nothing ever happens.. but..

Odd timing that it is right before an election.

Hmmmm
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Why would JP Morgan be visiting that article???

"Another notable incident that is happening on that very same night is that China's renminbi is being added to the IMF (International Monetary Fund) SDR (Special Drawing Rights) along with the euro, yen, dollar, and pound. While the addition of the renminbi is not a reason for financial markets to crash, it is a consideration as China has stated that they will be backing their currency in Gold and will not exchange their currency for dollars. Whereas our USD is the petrodollar reserve currency and is a fiat currency."
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Someone could just be spoofing too, you SHOULD know that.
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I doubt anything will happen, as we all know nothing ever happens.. but..

Odd timing that it is right before an election.

Hmmmm
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Why would JP Morgan be visiting that article???

"Another notable incident that is happening on that very same night is that China's renminbi is being added to the IMF (International Monetary Fund) SDR (Special Drawing Rights) along with the euro, yen, dollar, and pound. While the addition of the renminbi is not a reason for financial markets to crash, it is a consideration as China has stated that they will be backing their currency in Gold and will not exchange their currency for dollars. Whereas our USD is the petrodollar reserve currency and is a fiat currency."
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Someone could just be spoofing too, you SHOULD know that.
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That is why I ran a 'traceroute' ...
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Thanks for this thread. This concerns the fuck out of me.

We know the NWO has a hatred for the internets free speech. Attacks on alternative news sites like GLP, infowars, breitbart, and most importantly DRUDGEREPORT are under attack.

My guess they will roll out required biometrics to get connected to this "new" secondary nework.

Most of the consumer electronics (tablets,smartphones,laptops) are being rolled out with fingerprint readers and cameras capable of iris scanning - face biometrics.
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If they pull some monkey shit there will be other DNS providers, thru secured channels, there already are.

The days of the traditional DNS are numbered anyway.
There are a lot of approaches to replace it, some of them working already on a blockchain model.

Theres many possibilities to keep connected and ensure privacy.