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What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? | |
| Islamic Guy User ID: 180642  Canada01/12/2007 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| pish User ID: 170659  United States01/12/2007 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? Difference is the radical Jihadist gets up in the morning, grabs his gun, and is intent on shooting someone, The Nationalist shoots in response to provocation. The Jihadist is just shooting/provoking to get a response. |
| Islamic Guy (OP) User ID: 180642 Canada01/12/2007 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? Difference is the radical Jihadist gets up in the morning, grabs his gun, and is intent on shooting someone, The Nationalist shoots in response to provocation. The Jihadist is just shooting/provoking to get a response. Quoting: pish 170659So how exactly did Iraq "provoke" a nationalistic response? See what I mean? Iraq didn't attack on Sept 11th, and neither did Iran... Yet one is being stomped for the second time in a decade and the other is on the chopping block. This is just more "I'm the good guy, you're the bad guy" bullshit, with no thoughfullness whatsoever. What's the difference between "spreading peace and democracy" by killing people, and "spreading morality and godliness" by killing people? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 114377 Sweden01/12/2007 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? So how exactly did Iraq "provoke" a nationalistic response? Quoting: Islamic Guy 180642See what I mean? Iraq didn't attack on Sept 11th, and neither did Iran... Yet one is being stomped for the second time in a decade and the other is on the chopping block. This is just more "I'm the good guy, you're the bad guy" bullshit, with no thoughfullness whatsoever. What's the difference between "spreading peace and democracy" by killing people, and "spreading morality and godliness" by killing people? Was that in your original question or did you have to retreat back to the issue of Iraq which everybody already know is Fubar? |
| Islamic Guy (OP) User ID: 180642 Canada01/12/2007 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? Was that in your original question or did you have to retreat back to the issue of Iraq which everybody already know is Fubar? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114377It ties in to my original question and it is a response to your statement that Nationalistic Radicals kill because they were "provoked" into it. I think it's a legitamate question to ask then what Iraq, and soon to be Iran did to "provoke" you. If we want to follow that arguement then we would have to go back in history, and list every "provication" looking for who "provoked" who first, because believe me, The arabs and persians also feel this way. So if it is fair for you to say that one side is fighting because it was provoked, it's also fair to say of the other side. I assumed you were talking about 9/11, when you said "provoked", and that was not done by Iraq, and or Iran, right? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 168506 United States01/12/2007 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? There isn't any. Quoting: Islamic Guy 180642--------------------------- Radical Jihadist believe that Islam should be spread through war. Radical Nationalists think that "the American way of life" should be spread by the sword. IG, Americans are hardly nationalist or radical. In fact, nationalism is stronger or more preferred in Europe, Asia or South America than in the US. Radicalism is founded in leftist-moonbat college campuses. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 114377 Sweden01/12/2007 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? It ties in to my original question and it is a response to your statement that Nationalistic Radicals kill because they were "provoked" into it. Quoting: Islamic Guy 180642I think it's a legitamate question to ask then what Iraq, and soon to be Iran did to "provoke" you. If we want to follow that arguement then we would have to go back in history, and list every "provication" looking for who "provoked" who first, because believe me, The arabs and persians also feel this way. So if it is fair for you to say that one side is fighting because it was provoked, it's also fair to say of the other side. I assumed you were talking about 9/11, when you said "provoked", and that was not done by Iraq, and or Iran, right? I think you are mixing me up with another AC, |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 180642 Canada01/12/2007 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? IG, Americans are hardly nationalist or radical. In fact, nationalism is stronger or more preferred in Europe, Asia or South America than in the US. Radicalism is founded in leftist-moonbat college campuses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 168506Your joking, right? I have lived in America, and it is about as nationalistic as you can get. Put another sticker on your SUV, and forget about this thread if you disagree, because we have seen two different Americas. America is a country where the leader can go on national T.V and state clearly that America is killing people to spread the system of the country around the middle east, and the population barely blinks, because it is ingrained that America is the best nation in the world, and what's wrong with "spreading the goodness"... Seriously. Take yourself outside of the situation and ask yourself how most Americans would feel if Russia started taking over the middle east and said it was to bring the peace and security of Communism to it. America would be repulsed! Because everyone knows that communism is just plain wrong, right? Well others are looking at America the same way. Who is America to declare itself the best system of government in the whole world and start exporting it by force? Yet the people are so nationalistic that terms like "homeland" are being used again as propaganda, and that hasn't been done since "you-know-who" in Germany used that phrase! America is EXTREMELY Nationalistic. Don't believe me? Go to any Wal-mart in Texas, and tell every man you meet that you don't support the troops. See what happens. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 180642 Canada01/12/2007 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? ..Or maybe all westerners are one person to you, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114377You are very full with hate, I`m sorry it has to be that way, on the other hand, we all have a choice.. What are you talking about? I AM a Westerner! I know what I'm talking about, and I don't hate everyone western, and I don't lump all westerners into the same group. Period. This post is about Radicals. Read the title again. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 114377 Sweden01/12/2007 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? What are you talking about? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 180642I AM a Westerner! I know what I'm talking about, and I don't hate everyone western, and I don't lump all westerners into the same group. Period. This post is about Radicals. Read the title again. Ok, hateful and aggressive.. |
| Islamic Guy (OP) User ID: 180642 Canada01/12/2007 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? What are you talking about? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114377I AM a Westerner! I know what I'm talking about, and I don't hate everyone western, and I don't lump all westerners into the same group. Period. This post is about Radicals. Read the title again. Ok, hateful and aggressive.. Great. I hate all westerners.  Happy now? Now that we got that out of the way can we focus on the topic instead of me? I really don't need to be focused on personally, or liked, for you to answer a question, now do I? So instead of trying to throw the thread off by misdirection and "killing the messenger", do you have any opinion about the message? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 173060 United Kingdom01/12/2007 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? Islamic guy is a Baathist I think (Muslim Commie not neccesarily pro-Saddam). About the only alternative to wacko Islamofacism the Islamic world comes up with is Baathism. Gee, doesn't that just fill you with hope... Not answering the questions in your last thread IG? Start another huh? What a joke.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 114377 Sweden01/12/2007 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? What are you talking about? Quoting: Islamic Guy 180642I AM a Westerner! I know what I'm talking about, and I don't hate everyone western, and I don't lump all westerners into the same group. Period. This post is about Radicals. Read the title again. Ok, hateful and aggressive.. Great. I hate all westerners. Happy now? Now that we got that out of the way can we focus on the topic instead of me? I really don't need to be focused on personally, or liked, for you to answer a question, now do I? So instead of trying to throw the thread off by misdirection and "killing the messenger", do you have any opinion about the message? Yes, I already told you, that I think there is a big difference. Thats what you asked was it not? Stop being so hostile. |
| Islamic Guy (OP) User ID: 180642 Canada01/12/2007 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? Islamic guy is a Baathist I think (Muslim Commie not neccesarily pro-Saddam). About the only alternative to wacko Islamofacism the Islamic world comes up with is Baathism. Gee, doesn't that just fill you with hope... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 173060Not answering the questions in your last thread IG? Start another huh? What a joke.... Baathist!  Wow. THAT'S funny... This takes "attack the messenger" to a whole new level... Kudos. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 173060 United Kingdom01/12/2007 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? Islamic guy is a Baathist I think (Muslim Commie not neccesarily pro-Saddam). About the only alternative to wacko Islamofacism the Islamic world comes up with is Baathism. Gee, doesn't that just fill you with hope... Quoting: Islamic Guy 180642Not answering the questions in your last thread IG? Start another huh? What a joke.... Baathist! Wow. THAT'S funny... This takes "attack the messenger" to a whole new level... Kudos. Thanks, I do pride myself in my rhetoric skills.   I think this is something to be proud of. Unlike being a question dodging Baathist Commie Troll.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 180923 United Kingdom01/12/2007 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? There isn't any. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 168506--------------------------- Radical Jihadist believe that Islam should be spread through war. Radical Nationalists think that "the American way of life" should be spread by the sword. IG, Americans are hardly nationalist or radical. In fact, nationalism is stronger or more preferred in Europe, Asia or South America than in the US. Radicalism is founded in leftist-moonbat college campuses. What tommy-rot! Europe looks at overtly Patriotic/Nationalistic America and cringes because it reminds them of Communism...the worship of The State... It is the US citizens that salute a flag, not Europeans. It is US citizens that have so much trained respect for Authority that they believe any and all propaganda...and so attack and invade Sovereign Nations, then steal and plunder. |
| Islamic Guy User ID: 181121 Canada01/13/2007 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? Anybody want to explain why it's okay for America to spread IT'S ideals by the sword, and not Muslims? And don't give me any crap about "well Muslims are violent", because the U.S has slaughtered more people in the last 100 years than Osama could even dream of! Not that Osama is even a real Muslim, but I digress... The point is. Why is it okay to kill to spread the American system of government, but not okay to kill to spread a religion? Death for ideological conquest is death for ideological conquest, is it not? When either side is asked this question they both seem to give the same answers. "No it is THEM that are the bad ones". But is it? Both sides will say, "but they are dangerous", and you know what? They're BOTH right! |
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HeidiLore  User ID: 177523 Canada01/13/2007 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? Spending the time I have in Canada, I can honestly say there are a number of differences. The American media, the news, is hopeless and nothing but propaganda. Visit my website... [link to heidi-lore.tripod.com] Need to email? [email protected] Visit the GLP video site and click on groups: [link to youtube.com] _____________ The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference. I believe I can see the future, 'cause I repeat the same routine. I think I used to have a purpose, but then again, it might have been a dream |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 181385 United States01/13/2007 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: What's the difference between a Radical Jihadist, and a Radical Nationalist? - When you look in the mirror is Osama staring back at you? This is always a funny situation to me -- because so many 'Christians' apparently hate Islam. Then they have the nerve to say Arabs hate us. (But no... we supposedly don't hate Islamists; even if so many of think we'd be better off nuking the entire middle east). The comment about putting western women in bikinis (versus burkahs) is right on the mark. Our culture is no better... we're a pretty sick people. What about all the people who wanted to watch Saddam hang? (Even though we decry them for showing executions on TV). Actually... there's nothing funny about being more Christian than the average 'Christian' even though you don't proclaim yourself as such. |
