Beware the Narcissists Sociopaths Psychopaths!

yes, indeed....the irony....it burns

For Empaths? Really?

The most inwardly spiritual empaths I have meet seldom like to deal with people outside of forced situations and work. They tend to like silence and stillness, rejecting the situations that narci thrive in.

When you can feel anothers emotions without elevating the situation, the appetite would be opposite of what you just stated. Empaths receive validation internally, not externally.

Thair

Perhaps you attract that type.

Empaths do not feel other people's emotions.

They feel their own emotions being echoed inside someone else who has them too. A common misconception. Their connection to themselves is their connection to others.

So it still comes from a place of extreme self centeredness. Only introverted as opposed to extroverted like the narcissist.

Ok I'll stop before people start getting mad. I feel it coming. It's the truth though

hahahaha, you just can't stay away. The power of G LP and this thread. Life is glorious.

So you have never felt the life force of another living being? You have never felt the tightness in the chest from extreme anger being directed at you? You have never felt the desire of another before you even see them? And when you make eye contact you know exactly where they originate?

The narcissist’s agenda is one of manipulation, it is imperative they are in a position whereby they can rise above others and be in control. The empath’s agenda is to love, heal and care. There is no balance and it is extremely unlikely there ever will be one. The more love and care an empath offers, the more powerful and in control a narcissist will become.

The more powerful the narcissist becomes, the more likely the empath will retreat into a victim status. Then, there is a very big change—the empath will take on narcissistic traits as they too become wounded and are constantly triggered by the damage being in the company with a narcissist creates. Before long, an extremely vicious circle has begun to swirl.

When a narcissist sees that an empath is wounded they will play on this and the main intention will be to keep the empath down. The lower down an empath becomes, the higher a narcissist will feel. An empath will begin to frantically seek love, validation, confirmation and acceptance from a narcissist and each cry for help as such will affirm to the narcissist what they are desperate to feel inside—worthy. A bitter battle can ensue.
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It was 2 1/2 years... I say psychopath because I felt all empathy drain from me but this ensured my survival and helped me get thru it so I could make my escape plan... I am feeling my empathy come back but dont know if it will all come back... It was a blessing to feel NOTHING to my abuser, yet the damage is done...

I can only assume you have come to some sort of conclusion about me that is incorrect to ask me those questions?

What are you getting at? Just state yourself plainly.

Empathy is the ability to recognize our own emotions in others. Not the ability to actually feel their emotions. Empathy is recognizing someone's plight in your own life and experiences so you can relate.

Not magically feeling what they feel with no connection to thier situation.

another semi related question for people, sorry OP if I drift.

Is the ability to feel another life force even possible? Take a favorite pet. If you are disturbed or emotionally chaotic and you try to pet them, what do they do? Stick around or flee your touch?

Take the opposite. If you are very content or even ecstatic and then give your pet attention, what happens? Do they settle in for the affection? Take a cat for example, if you are pouring benevolence and giving them attention, will they start to purr and knead? It can't be all due to just visual stimuli.

Again, having been hurt doesn't make a person a hero. Empaths, much of the time, are not as innocent and all-loving as the persona they may have (or "craft"). Sorry, insinuating a good/bad paradigm is faulty.

Life is far murkier than any of these definitions anyway.

Be wary of "do-gooders." There's often more to the picture.

Yes, she is an unintelligent, uncivilized animal!

Thanks for telling the truth about women.

Yes, she is an unintelligent, uncivilized animal!

Thanks for telling the truth about women.

You are feeling your own life force and using that to relate to and feel thiers. What Do you not understand about that? It starts with you then extends to them.

Why would I need to come to some conclusion as to what type of person you are in order to ask questions?

Maybe I sense intelligence. Maybe I sense a willingness to discuss the subject. Does it really matter?

Maybe you are correct, maybe it is all about reading body language huh?

Would you acknowledge the possibility, even if it is faint, to detect another persons emotions? And if I may be so bold, if not why?

Is our understanding of science and of humans that all encompassing that it will completely rule this possibility out?

Wouldn't that be a rather closed minded to exclude even the possibility?

Finally someone said it.

Good thread, sorry to defile it with needless insults to women. It's immature.

I still think that women are no better than Giger's Alien, but it's a great thread and I'm thankful that's here for anyone suffering from narcissistic abuse.

Where's the balance?

Really? So it is ok to think that you can feel your own emotions echoing inside another person if they are similar. But it is not ok to feel another persons emotions if they differ from your own? And that make sense?

Fact>Fiction indeed. Must have an official title in there somewhere. Maybe even an honorary to come up with that type of logic.

Sorry OP for the derail. I will exit now.

Most narcissists reject the notion or diagnosis that they are mentally disturbed. Absent powers of introspection and a total lack of self-awareness are part and parcel of the disorder. Pathological narcissism is founded on alloplastic defences - the firm conviction that the world or others are to blame for one's behaviour. The narcissist firmly believes that people around him should be held responsible for his reactions or have triggered them.

With such a state of mind so firmly entrenched, the narcissist is incapable of admitting that something is wrong with HIM.

But that is not to say that the narcissist does not experience his disorder.

He does. But he re-interprets this experience. He regards his dysfunctional behaviours - social, sexual, emotional, mental - as conclusive and irrefutable proof of his superiority, brilliance, distinction, prowess, might, or success. Rudeness to others is reinterpreted as efficiency.
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When you argue with them they will tell you what you did to make them do or say something it is never there fault no matter what you present or hey, even trying to get them to take responsibility for their actions... They will deflect... You're better off trying to reason with a brick wall! This is why they can NEVER change as they think nothing is wrong with them! Even with friends going no contact on them its always this this and this is why...

So annoying!

Yep. Those lying, cheating, emotionally and even physically abusive empaths.

Could it be that what you did was disengage for survival? If you didn't care, maybe it wouldn't hurt so much when he struck.

Imagine a 6' man coming after you wielding a knife. He's going to slash you, and the look on his face tells you he's going to cut you to pieces. Beside you stands a bat which is your only defense. You grab the bat, taking an adrenaline swing and knock him out.

Does that make you like him? No, it means you used the most effective tool within your reach to deal with the situation.

It makes sense to feel your own emotions.
As you do, obviously.

Be well.

Your questions point to foregone conclusions about my opinion and character you do not just plainly state but project. Your projections and assumotions appear to be far off base as well .That is not effective communication. It is manipulative communication in fact. An attempt to control a conversation instead of have a conversation. Why Would one not explain themselves when asked to unless they had something to hide? That was rhetorical. They would not resist clarifying themselves if they were being intellectually honest obviously. Which you are not for some veiled reason.

You have a "I ask the questions here, not answer them" type attitude towards me. A very common trait of the narcissistic personality. Famously common in fact.



You all want to know how you stop narcissistic manipulations? You identify them quickly and point them out and refuse to move forward until the one sided nature of their personality stops trying to control you instead of interact with you in an equal give and take interaction. If they refuse then you are better off not interacting with that person. As they clearly only want thier way exclusively.

So like cancer early detection is key and when you spot it, cut it out. Then you are safe.

If you judged wrongly they will show you so either immediately or in time. If they attack or belittle your decision to not have one sided interactions with them then you know you made the right choice.

Last Edited by Merit on 09/22/2016 08:55 PM

Whatever :-)

Maybe I did disengage... Constant walking on egg shells had me in overdrive, maybe frying my adrenal glands...

I am feeling more... Its been 3 days since I left...

Now that is way too funny.

Notice how "empathetic" they are towards me and you not agreeing with thier notion of what is right?

The attacks on character attempting to assinate the character of those they disagree with?

Funny, just like a narciss.....nah. Couldn't be.

Last Edited by Merit on 09/22/2016 09:01 PM

I do not why. I have never said feelings are not real or do not exist. Never even implied it actually.

Oh, but it is...
Isn't that funny ?

:-)

Yes. I read that you can tell if you are a narcissist or not because a narcissist won't ask, "am I a narcissist". They won't wonder about it, or be willing to get help if they thought they were...