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Beware the Narcissists Sociopaths Psychopaths!

 
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Some people indirectly look for an association with narcissists, knowing the forthcoming abuses may leave them in the state they crave -- VICTIM status, a guarantee of consent and affirmation from others as they assume the "high ground" of having been hurt. It's about power and emotional control.

Many have seen this game played, although it is very unfashionable to call it out in our pseudo-nurturing society.

Which leaves another question: Who is the real narcissist?
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It describes, at different levels, every woman I've ever met.
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a woman is a "survivalist" and mother and will use any tool, without hesitation, that works to keep your children (and hers) safe, well fed and housed that is within her reach, and works on the father of her children (your children). It is her nature, bred into her, at the time of the making of Adam and Eve. She will never change. She is a warrior of motherly love and nurturing, and her weapons plentiful.
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Your definition applies to men just as equally. Just replace mother with father. That is called being a human.
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in other words this is bigger than both of us. It is all about survival of the species. Right?- but itis the female that eats the male in the life of the spider. It is the male that is expendable (useless eaterlaugh where the offspring are considered No. 1. over dad). Yes, itis cruel, but it works.
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Some people indirectly look for an association with narcissists, knowing the forthcoming abuses may leave them in the state they crave -- VICTIM status, a guarantee of consent and affirmation from others as they assume the "high ground" of having been hurt. It's about power and emotional control.

Many have seen this game played, although it is very unfashionable to call it out in our pseudo-nurturing society.

Which leaves another question: Who is the real narcissist?
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Overt narcissists vs Covert narcissists.

Find the co-dependency :-)
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Merit buddy you always get stuck at the same place with people and it is not your fault and I realize you know this because you are you. But I am going to say it anyways.

No one trust the smartest person in the room even when you are on their side. Especially when you are on their side sometimes.

You need to dumb it up a little friend. Which you think is dishonest so won't do right lol?

Man you're a good dude but you scare the shit out of people because of your smarts. hf
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How did this thread go from attacking narcis to attacking empaths?

After trying to help, and explaining what's going on and how to handle a narci, I've come to the realization that this is an attack thread. I'm just going to change the thread title to: Beware! Fat and Old Women are Worthless! and then re-read everything.
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Empaths do not feel other people's emotions.

They feel their own emotions being echoed inside someone else who has them too.
A common misconception. Their connection to themselves is their connection to others.

So it still comes from a place of extreme self centeredness. Only introverted as opposed to extroverted like the narcissist.

Ok I'll stop before people start getting mad. I feel it coming. It's the truth though
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit



Finally someone said it.
 Quoting: Sibir


Notice how "empathetic" they are towards me and you not agreeing with thier notion of what is right?

The attacks on character attempting to assinate the character of those they disagree with?

Funny, just like a narciss.....nah. Couldn't be.
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit



chuckle

Oh, but it is...
Isn't that funny ?

:-)
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Yin/yang

The blind spot we all have right between the eyes when our our eyes are made to cross.


Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass.

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It describes, at different levels, every woman I've ever met.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21293280


a woman is a "survivalist" and mother and will use any tool, without hesitation, that works to keep your children (and hers) safe, well fed and housed that is within her reach, and works on the father of her children (your children). It is her nature, bred into her, at the time of the making of Adam and Eve. She will never change. She is a warrior of motherly love and nurturing, and her weapons plentiful.
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Your definition applies to men just as equally. Just replace mother with father. That is called being a human.
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit


in other words this is bigger than both of us. It is all about survival of the species. Right?- but itis the female that eats the male in the life of the spider. It is the male that is expendable (useless eaterlaugh where the offspring are considered No. 1. over dad). Yes, itis cruel, but it works.
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That is not even remotely accurate 1dunno1


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Merit buddy you always get stuck at the same place with people and it is not your fault and I realize you know this because you are you. But I am going to say it anyways.

No one trust the smartest person in the room even when you are on their side. Especially when you are on their side sometimes.

You need to dumb it up a little friend. Which you think is dishonest so won't do right lol?

Man you're a good dude but you scare the shit out of people because of your smarts. hf
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I'll live. I will not play dumb. It is not worth it and it IS dishonest. ;)

Last Edited by Merit on 09/22/2016 09:23 PM


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For Empaths? Really?

The most inwardly spiritual empaths I have meet seldom like to deal with people outside of forced situations and work. They tend to like silence and stillness, rejecting the situations that narci thrive in.

When you can feel anothers emotions without elevating the situation, the appetite would be opposite of what you just stated. Empaths receive validation internally, not externally.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71594995


Empaths do not feel other people's emotions.

They feel their own emotions being echoed inside someone else who has them too. A common misconception. Their connection to themselves is their connection to others.

So it still comes from a place of extreme self centeredness. Only introverted as opposed to extroverted like the narcissist.

Ok I'll stop before people start getting mad. I feel it coming. It's the truth though
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit


Now that is way too funny.
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I do not why. I have never said feelings are not real or do not exist. Never even implied it actually.
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit


Nor is it the implication. Now it is even more funny.
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How did this thread go from attacking narcis to attacking empaths?

After trying to help, and explaining what's going on and how to handle a narci, I've come to the realization that this is an attack thread. I'm just going to change the thread title to: Beware! Fat and Old Women are Worthless! and then re-read everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71976644


Actually people are talking about narcissists hiding themselves behind an empathy persona to gain access to people's emotions and that the reason that works is because the empath and narcissist share a lot of traits ironically that they express differently.

Last Edited by Merit on 09/22/2016 09:22 PM


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Empaths do not feel other people's emotions.

They feel their own emotions being echoed inside someone else who has them too. A common misconception. Their connection to themselves is their connection to others.

So it still comes from a place of extreme self centeredness. Only introverted as opposed to extroverted like the narcissist.

Ok I'll stop before people start getting mad. I feel it coming. It's the truth though
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit


Now that is way too funny.
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I do not why. I have never said feelings are not real or do not exist. Never even implied it actually.
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit


Nor is it the implication. Now it is even more funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69463594


1dunno1 sigh ok.


Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass.

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hi bye again

hi <-----This dude is like aloha to me.


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This thread is actually pretty good. This is much more complex than narci (bad) and empathy (good). Real life, baby! Catch the fever.
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Fine, I will play your game.

Line up the empaths to my left, hottest to least hot, please.
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hi bye again

hi <-----This dude is like aloha to me.
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit



Whenever i see that emoticon i recall the Hello, Goodbye song of Beatles.

Is it Hi or is it Bye ?

I guess is only narcissistic hi and also empathetic bye :-D

chuckle
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Like many people who’ve endured Narcissistic and emotional abuse, you probably didn’t realize what was happening to you until you reached a point of near insanity and began searching desperately for reasons why your fairytale romance took a grievous turn for the worse.

Further, the person you love has made you feel you can’t do anything right. The salvation of the relationship always lies on the distant horizon and is entirely dependent upon your changing something about yourself– which is impossible to do (in spite of frantic efforts on your part) – because your self-absorbed partner constantly changes the goal posts.

While these shady behaviors on your partner’s part are indicators of having a destructive personality disorder, there are other very strong signs that your partner may be a Narcissist, which have more to do with how their behavior affects you. If the following signs describe your life, it’s likely that your partner is a Narcissist, which means your relationship problems are undeniably not your fault.
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Charming others in superficial or infrequent encounters is a piece of cake but close or intimate relationships are a problem. If your self-concerns are paramount, there may not be room for anyone else’s. You may destroy important relationships because your lack of empathy, compassion and concern wears people out. Your unwillingness to own up and apologize alienates others and you are seen as someone without integrity. You become tainted, rather than respected, which is troubling for a person who cares deeply about image.

As you do not see dangers as dangerous, you take risks that set you up for payback. Consequences you never expected—loss, abandonment, debt, legal trouble and ultimate loneliness might become your lot and a situation that your high-honed tactics cannot undo. At a certain point you cannot brush it off or continue the ruse.
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I was so ugly and poor i got humilliated and i turned into a monster. I dont regret anything i have 3 sex couples and i am married, i run a succesfull bussines. As i say i have no regrets but i just cant get enough and i ldont ike that
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Merit buddy you always get stuck at the same place with people and it is not your fault and I realize you know this because you are you. But I am going to say it anyways.

No one trust the smartest person in the room even when you are on their side. Especially when you are on their side sometimes.

You need to dumb it up a little friend. Which you think is dishonest so won't do right lol?

Man you're a good dude but you scare the shit out of people because of your smarts. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71204384


Isn't appearing dumber than you are one of Greene's 48 Laws of Power?

I guess it really is about being narcissistic and Machiavellian.
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Merit buddy you always get stuck at the same place with people and it is not your fault and I realize you know this because you are you. But I am going to say it anyways.

No one trust the smartest person in the room even when you are on their side. Especially when you are on their side sometimes.

You need to dumb it up a little friend. Which you think is dishonest so won't do right lol?

Man you're a good dude but you scare the shit out of people because of your smarts. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71204384

he is leaving out an entire equation, and that is the Masochist, and so his 2 plus 2 never makes FOUR ! EVERYONE FEELS THAT imbalance in him. Trying to put all the blame on one person, in the end, never works and just causes violent down-falls. Remember this?- two sides to every story, which our Media ignor, and causes them to be hated. It all boils down to the same old same old: which came fire the chicken or the egg?- or did the Masochist cause the "Narcissist" or did the Narcissist cause the Masochist. Neither, they feed and need each other.

German men are sadistic, while the women are Masochists. That seems to be the way with the Muslims (Arabs), but with the Arabs it is a run, chase and catch game of sport. With the Germans it is a sickness.
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There Their They're
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That's where I stopped reading.
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Merit buddy you always get stuck at the same place with people and it is not your fault and I realize you know this because you are you. But I am going to say it anyways.

No one trust the smartest person in the room even when you are on their side. Especially when you are on their side sometimes.

You need to dumb it up a little friend. Which you think is dishonest so won't do right lol?

Man you're a good dude but you scare the shit out of people because of your smarts. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71204384


Isn't appearing dumber than you are one of Greene's 48 Laws of Power?

I guess it really is about being narcissistic and Machiavellian.
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I believe his idea of personal power is based on merit not manipulation. Which we should be happy about because he could fool us all if he wanted to I'm sure.
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a woman is a "survivalist" and mother and will use any tool, without hesitation, that works to keep your children (and hers) safe, well fed and housed that is within her reach, and works on the father of her children (your children). It is her nature, bred into her, at the time of the making of Adam and Eve. She will never change. She is a warrior of motherly love and nurturing, and her weapons plentiful.
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Your definition applies to men just as equally. Just replace mother with father. That is called being a human.
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit


in other words this is bigger than both of us. It is all about survival of the species. Right?- but itis the female that eats the male in the life of the spider. It is the male that is expendable (useless eaterlaugh where the offspring are considered No. 1. over dad). Yes, itis cruel, but it works.
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That is not even remotely accurate 1dunno1
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit


right

there is NOTHING accurate about art or Mother Nature. It is just the rule or die. What works.- right or wrong. success is all that counts. All the rest is just a mess.
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Your definition applies to men just as equally. Just replace mother with father. That is called being a human.
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in other words this is bigger than both of us. It is all about survival of the species. Right?- but itis the female that eats the male in the life of the spider. It is the male that is expendable (useless eaterlaugh where the offspring are considered No. 1. over dad). Yes, itis cruel, but it works.
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That is not even remotely accurate 1dunno1
 Quoting: Of Deplorable Merit


right

there is NOTHING accurate about art or Mother Nature. It is just the rule or die. What works.- right or wrong. success is all that counts. All the rest is just a mess.
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clappa

They did tell you a lack of feelings.
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beware

“Do not judge, so that you won’t be judged.

For with the judgment you use, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye but don’t notice the log in your own eye?

Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and look, there’s a log in your eye?

Hypocrite!

First take the log out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
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Merit buddy you always get stuck at the same place with people and it is not your fault and I realize you know this because you are you. But I am going to say it anyways.

No one trust the smartest person in the room even when you are on their side. Especially when you are on their side sometimes.

You need to dumb it up a little friend. Which you think is dishonest so won't do right lol?

Man you're a good dude but you scare the shit out of people because of your smarts. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71204384

he is leaving out an entire equation, and that is the Masochist, and so his 2 plus 2 never makes FOUR ! EVERYONE FEELS THAT imbalance in him. Trying to put all the blame on one person, in the end, never works and just causes violent down-falls. Remember this?- two sides to every story, which our Media ignor, and causes them to be hated. It all boils down to the same old same old: which came fire the chicken or the egg?- or did the Masochist cause the "Narcissist" or did the Narcissist cause the Masochist. Neither, they feed and need each other.

German men are sadistic, while the women are Masochists. That seems to be the way with the Muslims (Arabs), but with the Arabs it is a run, chase and catch game of sport. With the Germans it is a sickness.
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Whom or what are you talking about? I can't tell.
Not Merit I don't think because he has been talking about both sides of the coin the whole time. That is his point. He is saying there is more to it than just an abuser and a victim. That being a victim can be a type of narcissistic behavior too and victims pick narcissist sometimes the same way narcissist pick their victims. It is some weird Co relationship because they are alike. Which made everyone mad.

I think he is on to something because we all know the people who keep getting with these people over and over.

Shit the guy has a MS in the subject. I'm not surprised he knows what he's talking about. More than I do. He sure gets everyone worked up being the nicest guy in the room somehow tho chuckle
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I don't like psych-speech in daily life. It shows the need to compensate for something. Psych-speech can be a form of bullying or coercion, or hate speech, in some ways. And the person more persistent to use psych-speech is going to be driven to one-up others in arguments.

I win because you're ________. Now you can use any word. Decades ago it was "I win because you're a n-word. Now its "I win because you're bipolar" or schizophrenic. and if you look in the dictionary it says people just like that diagnosis cannot ever be right compared to a normal, and anything a normal says about how someone with a diagnosis perceives things, the normal is always right...right? NO. It's hate speech to contrast people like that.

So, with that, it's like saying, never believe a gypsy, you know that's offensive. Never do something for a ...psychopath, sociopath, narcissist. Do they have personal names or are you typecasting them for life like that? Are you saying they're diseased? Are you discriminating like that?

"These people"

oh go fuck off OP.
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No more wondering about you. This has to be "one of them."
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Some people indirectly look for an association with narcissists, knowing the forthcoming abuses may leave them in the state they crave -- VICTIM status, a guarantee of consent and affirmation from others as they assume the "high ground" of having been hurt. It's about power and emotional control.

Many have seen this game played, although it is very unfashionable to call it out in our pseudo-nurturing society.

Which leaves another question: Who is the real narcissist?
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THIS
clappa
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Didnt read the whole thread but I'd go further and bring up the subject of "energy vampires." They seem to be everywhere, now. I have regular encounters and confrontations with them. I just told one to leave me 100% alone -- he was stalking and embarrassing me.

I've learned that they can use any kind of negative energy they can evoke from their victims, not necessarily always dreadful, but even mildly negative forms, such as confusion, embarrassment, impatience (this is big -- they LOVE to feed by wasting your time and making you angry), or stuff like saying something mean and then saying, "Just kidding, you're overly sensitive aren't you?" (Followed by a smirk or sneer that belies the joke they claim it is.) when they employ all of these against a victim, it really. Can be overwhelming.

They also lie and love to lie. Here is my list, for your reference.

SIGNS OF A VAMPIRE

- Arrogance, narcissism, sociopathic tendencies, control addicts
- Dishonesty, dissembling, secretiveness, suspicious attitude (if under attack by a group of them you will notice that they meet secretly for private discussions a lot and if you are outnumbered by them, it feels like a creepy sci fi movie in which YOU are the "only one who doesn't know" a secret they all share!)
- With men, misogyny; the women often control male victims
- Jealousy of humanistic qualities like genuine love and kindness, beauty, soulfulness, innocence, honesty and creative talent of all kinds -- they attempt to own and control and if they cant, will punish revengefully by taking away the human victim's opportunities to do the things they love, and take away all their pleasure and happiness in life.
- Abusive, manipulative, aloof, or embarrassing, awkward, confusing, irrational (this can be cover for provocation -- they enjoy creating frustration)
- Provocation. Is anyone bullying you? They do all kinds of bullying, much of it very subtle. Campaigns to diminish your self confidence and make you miserable are quite common.
- Attacks can be unprovoked. People who find fault or get angry seemingly for no good reason. Key words! For No Good Reason, or FNGR (finger). NO GOOD REASON for the attack. This is a key sign of dealing with vampires! You may not realize you are waking up -- but they know all the signs and will attack based on those, confusing the poor victims greatly.
- Inappropriate emotional responses are a dead giveaway! Such as lack of compassion and failure to respond to complaints by victims! Including by institutions such as the police and fire department, the VA, government agencies of all kinds; your doctor, dentist or therapist, and even friends and people in your own family who act that way.
- The men can be addicted to violent entertainment. Their men like violence and are drawn to professions where they can be violent and aggressive, such as law enforcement and pro sports. But they also entrain talented humans into these in order to feed on them or profit financially from the individual's abilities and talents. Remember, they try to own the people they are jealous of! Own and operate!

There you have it... I was a victim for many years; the last few I spent figuring it all out. The existence of these Vampires explains perfectly for me why the world seems to have been engineeed to cause pain to humans in every way possible. Think about it. They are past 50% of the population, now, and have infiltrated all institutions and positions of authority in the last few years. This all happened recently. It's why government doesnt work any more. I am tempted to believe it is also the primary factor behind all these school shootings and lone bomber things -- these are POSSIBLY engineered by groups of them for BIG FEEDS





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