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When I first joined the church I told our priest everything of relevance. Being an older person, he advised me not to talk about the past 7 years, but I think that was a mistake.

One of our congregants just found out that their son-in-law is going through a sex change, which has caused their daughter and grandchildren much financial hardship. There is not much I can do to help, but we told them if they need to talk we are here. They are too embarrassed and shocked about it to talk to anybody else.
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Hello dear angels
Am 57 years old and trying to rebuild my life as I lost everything in the 2008 financial collapse.
Got a job offer in Kuwait but since am lebanese I was denied the residence visa due to some restrictions.
Pls help me getting the Visa as I truly believe that you can
Help in this regard.
Kind Regards
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Thanks Grumpier. I wish I could tell you all the details.
 Quoting: SunshineRay


You can, provided you use Skype, or are willing to install it.

I will send you a PM with my contact
 Quoting: grumpier


hf
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Thank you Grumpier. it is funny, I have always bonded deeply with animals. Over the past few years my feelings have changed about insects. I avoid killing them at all costs. I will allow a few ants to come and go as long as there are only a few.
 Quoting: akasuzanne


So, without knowing of the change, you figured it out.
Great.

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 Quoting: grumpier


The only ones I allow me to kill are the mosquitoes. Pre-emptive strikes because if I don't do it the little bastards will come for me. I attract them and I am allergic to their bite so no mercy. lol. all the others and what ever they are even spiders, wasps, etc if they enter the house I manage to take them outside and the others like worms , caterpillars, snails I put them in a safer place if I think they are in danger. Been doing that since I am a kid. My parents taught me not to kill if not necessary. And the pets have the same rights as me or almost.... I just can't let them do everything they want because they would think they are the boss.

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Hi, please heal Kaptain Ron's wife's lung cancer

Thread: Please Prayer for my Wife Stage 4

Thank you
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I sent her the energy. I put her in my list. hf
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A few years back all animals, in the entire universe, got a soul.
 Quoting: grumpier

That would explain the owls talking to me over the last few years.
I rescued 4 kittens in '13 and one of them, Sam, has adopted me.
Good info sir, I've always thought they had souls.
More than I can say for some people.
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Hi, please heal Kaptain Ron's wife's lung cancer

Thread: Please Prayer for my Wife Stage 4

Thank you
 Quoting: loveexists


I sent her the energy. I put her in my list. hf
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I am not trying to be a whiner or complainer, but, yet again, here I am whining. My plea is to all - Grumpier, Angel's, JJ and Yendor who have all helped so much in the past. Is there any way we can just shut this illness down, once and for all. Compared to 2 years ago when I first asked for healing on this thread, I am like night and day, I am not bed ridden anymore, however, I am no where near normal or what I was years ago and I am only 58.

CFS, Fibro, autoimmune diseaes, and damage from medical treatments cause extreme exhaustion and muscle weakness and pain. These things cause me to isolate and not be able to communicate or be around people because it drains my energy even more. I push through it sometimes to take my father to Dr. appointments and medical procedures, but, find myself exhausted for several days afterwards.

As a result, I don't take care of my personal needs, my house is a disaster and I have things I would like to do with my life. I generally put the needs of others ahead of mine and no one understands my symptoms. It is very frustrating. I really just want to be better. I have so much to offer the world and would accomplish much good.

Thank you and much love and thank you for all you do in the world!

Suzanne
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Hello everyone : )

I'm stopping by to give a little update. Still haven't heard from my lawyer. I sent my daughters lawyer a request for more time with her. I listed numerous reasons why, I'm hoping I hear back soon about that.

I'm trying to stay positive about it.

Yesterday I talked to a person that gave me a lot of information about things that my ex has been doing. This person also agreed to go with me to talk to her lawyer.
The problem I'm seeing with this is I don't know if the person can actually be trusted. This person could just be another way to try and get any information out of me that I have.

My car has had a recording device put in it. My email has been hacked. My neighbors were asked to spy on me. I've been followed by a PI. I trust no one now. It's pretty crappy feeling like that and lonely as well.

I wish I knew what to expect.

Anyways, a little good news... I might have a job here soon! Not exactly what I wanted but I will NOT complain. LOL
I will go and be thankful.

Angels please continue to protect my little one. Also please guide me to help bring daughter home for good. Let her lawyer see the truth in the custody case.

Angels please protect and help all that read and write in this thread. Thank you for all that you have done for us already.hf

Take care everyone,
Sunshine
 Quoting: SunshineRay


I hope it works out for you and you get more time with your daughter. You shouldn't have to worry about the lawyer there are laws against breaching confidentiality.

It really sucks being paranoid like that doesn't it? I'm going through something similar so I understand even if others might not believe, I do. No recording device is needed for your car, most people hack your phone or pc to keep tabs on you, it's far easier. But in an extreme case they can even hack newer cars, you can even turn speakers into microphones, but it's far more difficult. It's kind of scary how easy it is to keep tabs on and harass people these days, social media just makes it even worse as it's easy to network and organize the event.

I'm sorry your ex did that too you, you could talk to the neighbors and tell them your side of the story and they will probably stop.

Congratulations on the possible new job and if you ever feel lonely and want to talk about this stuff just reach out and I'll be there.

hugs
 Quoting: Surfer 7


Thank you for your kindness.
It is a terrible feeling and I'm sorry you are going through all of this as well. I don't know why people can't be civil. I'm not going to say it doesn't hurt me because it does very much do but my daughter is suffering way more than me. My ex the very definition of a controlling narcissist. He can't see past the end of his fantasy land.

Thank you again I truly appreciate it. hf
 Quoting: SunshineRay


Thanks for the concern, it was a difficult experience but I grew a lot from the ordeal, so I feel I came out a head and I think you will as well.

It's unfortunate we often can't see people for who they are until it is to late. And the fact your daughter is hurting as well really sucks, but I'm sure she will be strong too, like you.

I was talking to someone a few days ago with a very similar issue. She actually found a lot of help going to church and not just from praying. Do you get much time with your daughter?
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I am not trying to be a whiner or complainer, but, yet again, here I am whining. My plea is to all - Grumpier, Angel's, JJ and Yendor who have all helped so much in the past. Is there any way we can just shut this illness down, once and for all. Compared to 2 years ago when I first asked for healing on this thread, I am like night and day, I am not bed ridden anymore, however, I am no where near normal or what I was years ago and I am only 58.

CFS, Fibro, autoimmune diseaes, and damage from medical treatments cause extreme exhaustion and muscle weakness and pain. These things cause me to isolate and not be able to communicate or be around people because it drains my energy even more. I push through it sometimes to take my father to Dr. appointments and medical procedures, but, find myself exhausted for several days afterwards.

As a result, I don't take care of my personal needs, my house is a disaster and I have things I would like to do with my life. I generally put the needs of others ahead of mine and no one understands my symptoms. It is very frustrating. I really just want to be better. I have so much to offer the world and would accomplish much good.

Thank you and much love and thank you for all you do in the world!

Suzanne
 Quoting: akasuzanne


I feel for you, Suzanne. Sunshine's been telling me to take care of myself and I feel you should too...don't stress over the housework...not worth it...I kind of have given up about it and only do what I feel up to doing..it's the definition of insanity, doing the same things over and over again, lol...

It's okay to vent here...I feel the same as you do in what you posted above and I'm sure I am not the only one...

Good news here: daughter has a place now to live, big relief for her...at least thru end of December...sharing a place on the lease so can build some credit history. TBH and to vent, place isn't big enough for us to stay with her when we visit so means we will have to get a hotel...was trying so hard to find a 3 bdrm that we could use one for visiting and give her the money towards rent rather than a hotel...oh well...can't really afford to go anyway, but I have to see my daughter if husband up to it...

Bad News: Husband not doing well, no chance (it looks like as of now) of him eating. Ever. Again. Dentist has tried for past year to make a denture that can fit and they have given up. He can barely talk (I have to translate so to speak) and the pain has come more and gone less this week in his shoulder. He started up the conversation again about life without him last night and I couldn't sleep afterward....it tears me up but Grumpier told me he has a long time yet, but of course I still worry...

I haven't eaten since Saturday night...broke a back tooth then and am going to need oral surgery and an implant, actually 2 one on each side...one from an unfinished root canal...it hurts to eat and I have TMJ the other morning I woke up and the pain was nearly unbearable....tried to meditate like I wrote about awhile back before getting up and that helped... But honestly it's awkward cooking and eating in front of him so it's just as well...I may have some soup tonight, though...

And Grumpier knows about a few other things in my life I won't go into here...vented enough...haven't been able to Skype because I am watching. over him...daughter will be visiting later this week and I am thankful for this blessing of seeing her... and I continue to pray for everyone and try to use the sword...I wish I could get beyond survival mode as many of us here seem to be in right now...I wish I could share better news but knowing you guys are praying for me keeps me going as I have said before and I check in here everyday and send all of you prayers, so .....hopefully things will improve for all of us in need...Trying to be patient and stay positive because I feel like that's the only way to keep things from getting worse...

Like Suzanne I think was trying to say, not being ungrateful just trying to continue to keep our chins up in the journey of life...thank you all for your understanding, love and consideration...

Hope that everything works out for you Sunshine and feel better Suzanne!
And I love you all!
Peace and blessings!

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Dear SunshineRay,

please stay strong, every moment, your little one needs to see you strong.

I am sure Grumpier and the Angels help you
and you can trust soon it all changes.

During the last year I have also been attacked by a clan of three narcissists (what these are I found out quite late)...
you know the outcome ...

We are safe now,
thanks to Grumpier and the Angels,
and thanks to our friends' prayers on glp, and thanks to your kind words and prayers!

We pray for you!

Your ex seems to be a horrible narc ... and you should be fully knowledgeable about their ways and strategies.

There are quite good videos "how to deal and defeat a narc"
on youtube.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
and
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
She shares her experience with her narc-ex in court,
look back in her videos,
she defeated him,
and she describes precisely how one has to deal with a narc
in front of court/lawyers/gov ... etc.

Do not depend on your lawyer.
Many lawyers have no idea about what a narcissist is
and how to defeat them!
So do judges ...
You are the only one who can defeat him!
How? - With facts!


Funny in a way: narcs are the same everywhere!
German narcs are exactly the same species as american narcs
as australian narcs ...

There is an epedemic!
 Quoting: Vatsala


I am so glad you decided to register an account!
I am going to watch these videos tonight. Thank you for telling me about them. Unfortunately I was very naive going into all this custody stuff and failed to write things down at that beginning.

It had gotten to the point I could only see my daughter twice a week for 3 hours each time. Since I've started documenting everything finally it has started to change. It had taken months.
Because he's a narcissist he can't hide his evil manipulating ways forever and his true self is starting to show.

I believe the angels and Grumpier had a lot to do with that. Still waiting to hear from the lawyers. I'm sure I'll hear something soon. I'm so glad you and your family are doing so much better now. Slowly all of us this thread will be where we are needed to be.

hfgrouphug Thank you for everything I really appreciate it. Way more than you'll ever know. It's nice to know I'm not alone.
Sunshine
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Hello everyone : )

I'm stopping by to give a little update. Still haven't heard from my lawyer. I sent my daughters lawyer a request for more time with her. I listed numerous reasons why, I'm hoping I hear back soon about that.

I'm trying to stay positive about it.

Yesterday I talked to a person that gave me a lot of information about things that my ex has been doing. This person also agreed to go with me to talk to her lawyer.
The problem I'm seeing with this is I don't know if the person can actually be trusted. This person could just be another way to try and get any information out of me that I have.

My car has had a recording device put in it. My email has been hacked. My neighbors were asked to spy on me. I've been followed by a PI. I trust no one now. It's pretty crappy feeling like that and lonely as well.

I wish I knew what to expect.

Anyways, a little good news... I might have a job here soon! Not exactly what I wanted but I will NOT complain. LOL
I will go and be thankful.

Angels please continue to protect my little one. Also please guide me to help bring daughter home for good. Let her lawyer see the truth in the custody case.

Angels please protect and help all that read and write in this thread. Thank you for all that you have done for us already.hf

Take care everyone,
Sunshine
 Quoting: SunshineRay


I hope it works out for you and you get more time with your daughter. You shouldn't have to worry about the lawyer there are laws against breaching confidentiality.

It really sucks being paranoid like that doesn't it? I'm going through something similar so I understand even if others might not believe, I do. No recording device is needed for your car, most people hack your phone or pc to keep tabs on you, it's far easier. But in an extreme case they can even hack newer cars, you can even turn speakers into microphones, but it's far more difficult. It's kind of scary how easy it is to keep tabs on and harass people these days, social media just makes it even worse as it's easy to network and organize the event.

I'm sorry your ex did that too you, you could talk to the neighbors and tell them your side of the story and they will probably stop.

Congratulations on the possible new job and if you ever feel lonely and want to talk about this stuff just reach out and I'll be there.

hugs
 Quoting: Surfer 7


Thank you for your kindness.
It is a terrible feeling and I'm sorry you are going through all of this as well. I don't know why people can't be civil. I'm not going to say it doesn't hurt me because it does very much do but my daughter is suffering way more than me. My ex the very definition of a controlling narcissist. He can't see past the end of his fantasy land.

Thank you again I truly appreciate it. hf
 Quoting: SunshineRay


Thanks for the concern, it was a difficult experience but I grew a lot from the ordeal, so I feel I came out a head and I think you will as well.

It's unfortunate we often can't see people for who they are until it is to late. And the fact your daughter is hurting as well really sucks, but I'm sure she will be strong too, like you.

I was talking to someone a few days ago with a very similar issue. She actually found a lot of help going to church and not just from praying. Do you get much time with your daughter?
 Quoting: Surfer 7


I agree with you on growing from the experience. Unfortunately I was in a very abusive relationship and I was but a shell of a person. Everything thing about me had changed being with him. A few months after I had left him people I had known for 20 years or more were telling me they were so happy just to see me smile again.

It's a lot to come back from and it still hurts. He's not doing any of this because I'm a bad mother he's only doing it to still have control over me and to hurt me because I left. He makes a boat load of money has a high priced lawyer and at first when I left I had no job and I have a lawyer from a battered woman's shelter helping me. Because of his lies it had gotten to the point to where I was only able to see her twice a week for 3 and half hours each time.

Now finally after more than a year I see her once a week in the evening for a few hours and I get her every other weekend. It's still an open case so I still have the opportunity to win her back. He's not a very nice guy. He has a major drug problem that he hides very well. I was able to finally convince them to do a pop drug test and he failed not once but twice. I believe that has definitely helped to show that he is a liar.

This thread and all the people here have helped me so much. They've shown me that there is still kindness left in this world. I feel good reading everything here and hearing how things have improved for so many that have asked for help.

Wow, I just realized how much I'm blabbering away. LOL
Thank you again for your concern. I better stop now before this turns into a book.
Sunshine
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A few years back all animals, in the entire universe, got a soul.
 Quoting: grumpier

That would explain the owls talking to me over the last few years.
I rescued 4 kittens in '13 and one of them, Sam, has adopted me.
Good info sir, I've always thought they had souls.
More than I can say for some people.
hf
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Some how I knew you were an animal lover! hf
Faith is the soil where flowers grow and you need to nourish yours on a regular basis. Accepting that change is a natural condition and not a sign of your past mistakes helps you open up and let go of all those aspects of life that are beyond your control.
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Bastetcat and Suzanne,
You all are in my thoughts and prayers. Have you all read this thread by phen?

Thread: IM Cancer Free After 6 Yrs Of Suffring & I Wasnt No CHEMOsabbe

I don't know if it would exactly apply to either one of you however she has a ton of very good information in it with some good links.

When taking care of yourself and others be sure to always find time for yourself. Even if for a few minutes to sit in the sun or take an extra long shower. It does help.

I'm so glad your daughter found a place! Little steps each day. We all will get to the place we are needed to be.

Don't worry about venting here.. lol I do it too. Just getting it out makes you feel better and that's what we are here for.

I'll be sending you all love and energy hfgrouphug

You got this. You can do it.
Sunshine

Last Edited by SunshineRay on 07/25/2018 10:46 AM
Faith is the soil where flowers grow and you need to nourish yours on a regular basis. Accepting that change is a natural condition and not a sign of your past mistakes helps you open up and let go of all those aspects of life that are beyond your control.
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I agree with you on growing from the experience. Unfortunately I was in a very abusive relationship and I was but a shell of a person. Everything thing about me had changed being with him. A few months after I had left him people I had known for 20 years or more were telling me they were so happy just to see me smile again.

It's a lot to come back from and it still hurts. He's not doing any of this because I'm a bad mother he's only doing it to still have control over me and to hurt me because I left. He makes a boat load of money has a high priced lawyer and at first when I left I had no job and I have a lawyer from a battered woman's shelter helping me. Because of his lies it had gotten to the point to where I was only able to see her twice a week for 3 and half hours each time.

Now finally after more than a year I see her once a week in the evening for a few hours and I get her every other weekend. It's still an open case so I still have the opportunity to win her back. He's not a very nice guy. He has a major drug problem that he hides very well. I was able to finally convince them to do a pop drug test and he failed not once but twice. I believe that has definitely helped to show that he is a liar.

This thread and all the people here have helped me so much. They've shown me that there is still kindness left in this world. I feel good reading everything here and hearing how things have improved for so many that have asked for help.

Wow, I just realized how much I'm blabbering away. LOL
Thank you again for your concern. I better stop now before this turns into a book.
Sunshine
 Quoting: SunshineRay


The amount of courage it took to leave a situation like that is truly inspiring and I can't imagine how you felt but I do know you sound kind of like a bad ass women. aaa I think I can relate to a shell, I just started coming out of mine recently and it's been difficult but almost fun at times too.

Hopefully with his recent behavior the case will turn your way and you'll get more time with your daughter, I'll be praying for it. So how is the lawyer doing? it sounds like you may have inspired them to kick butt if you are getting more time with your daughter.

He certainty sounds like a bad person from what you describe, you deserve to be happy, hopefully you and your daughter will find that. I guess you where blabbing a bit, I didn't want to say anything because it was a little funny and cute and if you do decide to write a book your half way there. chuckle
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Some how I knew you were an animal lover! hf
 Quoting: SunshineRay

They are excellent judges of character!
I grade people by how they treat animals.
I often ask forgiveness for all those ants I burned with a magnifying glass as a kid. I've burned a few warts, etc. on myself with that glass through the years.

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Dear SunshineRay,
...
Your ex seems to be a horrible narc ... and you should be fully knowledgeable about their ways and strategies.

There are quite good videos "how to deal and defeat a narc"
on youtube.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
and
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
She shares her experience with her narc-ex in court,
look back in her videos,
she defeated him,
and she describes precisely how one has to deal with a narc
in front of court/lawyers/gov ... etc.
...
 Quoting: Vatsala


I am so glad you decided to register an account!
I am going to watch these videos tonight. Thank you for telling me about them. Unfortunately I was very naive going into all this custody stuff and failed to write things down at that beginning.

It had gotten to the point I could only see my daughter twice a week for 3 hours each time. Since I've started documenting everything finally it has started to change. It had taken months.
Because he's a narcissist he can't hide his evil manipulating ways forever and his true self is starting to show.

I believe the angels and Grumpier had a lot to do with that. Still waiting to hear from the lawyers. I'm sure I'll hear something soon. I'm so glad you and your family are doing so much better now. Slowly all of us this thread will be where we are needed to be.

hfgrouphug Thank you for everything I really appreciate it. Way more than you'll ever know. It's nice to know I'm not alone.
Sunshine
 Quoting: SunshineRay

Dear SunshineRay, you can win your daughter back,
it is possible.
F.e. when she has stomach pain, when she cries etc.
- see a doctor, every time.
Keep the document.

Then later when he lies about his being so responsible blahblah
you say "Then why did you not bring her to the doctor?"
and then you prove that it is YOU who saw the doctor!

This is in principle what this woman in the video did,
with other points as well
- and she won.

Expose him.
Exposure is THE way to defeat a narc.

Why not do some undercover secret observation yourself?
Where does he go and where does he get the drugs from?
-Prostitutes?

The advantage of having no job is that YOU can go wherever you want at any time you want to.
And in this way you can collect proves after proves
with photos .....
:)
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... or you could videorecord every tear and every pain
and aks your daughter to tell you all ...

Just ideas, I am sure you find more ways to win!
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Some how I knew you were an animal lover! hf
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They are excellent judges of character!
I grade people by how they treat animals.
I often ask forgiveness for all those ants I burned with a magnifying glass as a kid. I've burned a few warts, etc. on myself with that glass through the years.
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Awwwwww hillybilly that made me smile. LOL
I tend to leave insects alone if they leave me. They typically do. I've tried to teach my children the same. However, all of them when little liked to step on ant hills. I always say to them what are you going to to do when a giant ant comes and steps on you? They just look at me and laugh. I say they aren't hurting you so leave them alone.

I do the same with trees and bushes. I tell them unless you are climbing on (playing) or pruning them, leave them alone. How would you like it someone just comes running by you and pulls on you real hard or breaks off a piece of you? They think I'm crazy.. lol

I just see no reason to intentionally hurt or kill something. I'd love to be able to own a huge no kill animal shelter.
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Dear SunshineRay,
...
Your ex seems to be a horrible narc ... and you should be fully knowledgeable about their ways and strategies.

There are quite good videos "how to deal and defeat a narc"
on youtube.

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and
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She shares her experience with her narc-ex in court,
look back in her videos,
she defeated him,
and she describes precisely how one has to deal with a narc
in front of court/lawyers/gov ... etc.
...
 Quoting: Vatsala


I am so glad you decided to register an account!
I am going to watch these videos tonight. Thank you for telling me about them. Unfortunately I was very naive going into all this custody stuff and failed to write things down at that beginning.

It had gotten to the point I could only see my daughter twice a week for 3 hours each time. Since I've started documenting everything finally it has started to change. It had taken months.
Because he's a narcissist he can't hide his evil manipulating ways forever and his true self is starting to show.

I believe the angels and Grumpier had a lot to do with that. Still waiting to hear from the lawyers. I'm sure I'll hear something soon. I'm so glad you and your family are doing so much better now. Slowly all of us this thread will be where we are needed to be.

hfgrouphug Thank you for everything I really appreciate it. Way more than you'll ever know. It's nice to know I'm not alone.
Sunshine
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Dear SunshineRay, you can win your daughter back,
it is possible.
F.e. when she has stomach pain, when she cries etc.
- see a doctor, every time.
Keep the document.

Then later when he lies about his being so responsible blahblah
you say "Then why did you not bring her to the doctor?"
and then you prove that it is YOU who saw the doctor!

This is in principle what this woman in the video did,
with other points as well
- and she won.

Expose him.
Exposure is THE way to defeat a narc.

Why not do some undercover secret observation yourself?
Where does he go and where does he get the drugs from?
-Prostitutes?

The advantage of having no job is that YOU can go wherever you want at any time you want to.
And in this way you can collect proves after proves
with photos .....
:)
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After a ton of complaining I was able to finally get permission to take her to a specialist about her stomach.
So I have that plus a little more to go on.

Thank you for the encouragement and ideas. I woke up this morning feeling much better than I have the last few days. The weather has been terrible here and being stuck indoors has been hard.

Today I plan on taking a couple of walks and going to the library again. I found out the job I was hoping to get might not start for 3 weeks. Ughhhh. Oh well nothing to do but keep looking for another one while waiting. I'll will make it through somehow I always do. : )

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I agree with you on growing from the experience. Unfortunately I was in a very abusive relationship and I was but a shell of a person. Everything thing about me had changed being with him. A few months after I had left him people I had known for 20 years or more were telling me they were so happy just to see me smile again.

It's a lot to come back from and it still hurts. He's not doing any of this because I'm a bad mother he's only doing it to still have control over me and to hurt me because I left. He makes a boat load of money has a high priced lawyer and at first when I left I had no job and I have a lawyer from a battered woman's shelter helping me. Because of his lies it had gotten to the point to where I was only able to see her twice a week for 3 and half hours each time.

Now finally after more than a year I see her once a week in the evening for a few hours and I get her every other weekend. It's still an open case so I still have the opportunity to win her back. He's not a very nice guy. He has a major drug problem that he hides very well. I was able to finally convince them to do a pop drug test and he failed not once but twice. I believe that has definitely helped to show that he is a liar.

This thread and all the people here have helped me so much. They've shown me that there is still kindness left in this world. I feel good reading everything here and hearing how things have improved for so many that have asked for help.

Wow, I just realized how much I'm blabbering away. LOL
Thank you again for your concern. I better stop now before this turns into a book.
Sunshine
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The amount of courage it took to leave a situation like that is truly inspiring and I can't imagine how you felt but I do know you sound kind of like a bad ass women. aaa I think I can relate to a shell, I just started coming out of mine recently and it's been difficult but almost fun at times too.

Hopefully with his recent behavior the case will turn your way and you'll get more time with your daughter, I'll be praying for it. So how is the lawyer doing? it sounds like you may have inspired them to kick butt if you are getting more time with your daughter.

He certainty sounds like a bad person from what you describe, you deserve to be happy, hopefully you and your daughter will find that. I guess you where blabbing a bit, I didn't want to say anything because it was a little funny and cute and if you do decide to write a book your half way there. chuckle
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Shhh don't tell everyone my secret of blabbering away... lol
Only a select few get to read all that. wink
I'm still waiting to hear something from the lawyers. Which more than half the time I feel like I'm being ignored. I talked to a close friend and she listed a ton of reasons that are very good reasons why I haven't heard anything.

My mind of course wants to be pulled in the negative direction however after talking to her not so much. There are numerous reasons why my daughters lawyer is taking so a while to respond that are more for the safety of my daughter.

So I feel better about that. I'll update as soon as I know something. :)

So you are already done with your custody case?
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Hello Grumpier and Angels,

I finally decided to register as a free member on GLP.
Since I've been visiting this website for a long time , I can't thank you enough on how you've helped me and others.
I send you my energy and prayers to everyone in this thread, I'm doing well mentally and physically if there are any flaws in my mind or body please let me know,I also give you permission to enter my mind if there needs to be any healing,

One final thing I've been trying to unlock some abilities via Binural beats, is it possible to check what's going on with my third eye or even chakras ?

Thank you again Grumpier and Angels and everyone in this thread :)
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I agree with you on growing from the experience. Unfortunately I was in a very abusive relationship and I was but a shell of a person. Everything thing about me had changed being with him. A few months after I had left him people I had known for 20 years or more were telling me they were so happy just to see me smile again.

It's a lot to come back from and it still hurts. He's not doing any of this because I'm a bad mother he's only doing it to still have control over me and to hurt me because I left. He makes a boat load of money has a high priced lawyer and at first when I left I had no job and I have a lawyer from a battered woman's shelter helping me. Because of his lies it had gotten to the point to where I was only able to see her twice a week for 3 and half hours each time.

Now finally after more than a year I see her once a week in the evening for a few hours and I get her every other weekend. It's still an open case so I still have the opportunity to win her back. He's not a very nice guy. He has a major drug problem that he hides very well. I was able to finally convince them to do a pop drug test and he failed not once but twice. I believe that has definitely helped to show that he is a liar.

This thread and all the people here have helped me so much. They've shown me that there is still kindness left in this world. I feel good reading everything here and hearing how things have improved for so many that have asked for help.

Wow, I just realized how much I'm blabbering away. LOL
Thank you again for your concern. I better stop now before this turns into a book.
Sunshine
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The amount of courage it took to leave a situation like that is truly inspiring and I can't imagine how you felt but I do know you sound kind of like a bad ass women. aaa I think I can relate to a shell, I just started coming out of mine recently and it's been difficult but almost fun at times too.

Hopefully with his recent behavior the case will turn your way and you'll get more time with your daughter, I'll be praying for it. So how is the lawyer doing? it sounds like you may have inspired them to kick butt if you are getting more time with your daughter.

He certainty sounds like a bad person from what you describe, you deserve to be happy, hopefully you and your daughter will find that. I guess you where blabbing a bit, I didn't want to say anything because it was a little funny and cute and if you do decide to write a book your half way there. chuckle
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Shhh don't tell everyone my secret of blabbering away... lol
Only a select few get to read all that. wink
I'm still waiting to hear something from the lawyers. Which more than half the time I feel like I'm being ignored. I talked to a close friend and she listed a ton of reasons that are very good reasons why I haven't heard anything.

My mind of course wants to be pulled in the negative direction however after talking to her not so much. There are numerous reasons why my daughters lawyer is taking so a while to respond that are more for the safety of my daughter.

So I feel better about that. I'll update as soon as I know something. :)

So you are already done with your custody case?
 Quoting: SunshineRay


Well your secrets safe with me, I'm sure no one else saw. grinning

Anything to do with lawyers is likely to take time so I don't think you have worry. And if it's taking more time it could actually be a good sign for you as it shows they may be re-evaluating the circumstances and evidence.

Oh I understand, it's hard staying positive when your mind wants to always think the worse possible thing that could happen. Sometimes I wish I set it straight once and for all, and tell it only happy thoughts from now on, but it hasn't worked yet. Certainly most of what they are doing is to keep your daughter safe and that should be the main priority, but I can imagine it has to be difficult wondering and waiting. It certainly helps me to keep busy, as a parent I'm guessing that comes naturally?

You certainly seem happier today, almost contagiously so as you have brightened my day as well. tounge Hopefully you don't have to wait long. Please do keep me in the loop, as I've enjoyed talking with you.


No that wasn't my custody case, I was talking with someone else going through one and helping how I could by being there and talking with her.
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Hello Grumpier and Angels,

I finally decided to register as a free member on GLP.
Since I've been visiting this website for a long time , I can't thank you enough on how you've helped me and others.
I send you my energy and prayers to everyone in this thread, I'm doing well mentally and physically if there are any flaws in my mind or body please let me know,I also give you permission to enter my mind if there needs to be any healing,

One final thing I've been trying to unlock some abilities via Binural beats, is it possible to check what's going on with my third eye or even chakras ?

Thank you again Grumpier and Angels and everyone in this thread :)
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is it possible to check what's going on with my third eye or even chakras ?

Not very much, it will not help.

If you want I can help you.
That will be than on two moments, first to start the cleaning of your pineal gland and ten a week later making the necessary connections.
If you think a thread is important enough for others to read, go to page one and click on the green pin!!!
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This is such good news! I've been worried about you, and praying every day. I'm glad you are now safe, and your mind is at ease. I will continue to pray for our Heavenly Father to keep his loving arms wrapped around your family.
KH
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I am so happy to hear that! Thank you Grumpier and Angels for taking your time and energy to help this family. hf
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hf I Love This Thread hf
Thinking and praying for the family in Germany.
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So happy for you and your family hf
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hfhfhf
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Wonderful news for you and your family! God bless you all and I hope you can continue to live your life under far less stressful circumstances going forward. Good luck to you!
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Peace of mind is priceless.
But free hf
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Dear Grumpier, dear Angels, dear friends,
update from the german family: situation is full of positive events,
balance and calmness remained during the last days.
Strangers smile at me in the streets (never happened before)

We now actually feel quite well in "our storage home",
and work is an enjoyable one!

Thank you friends
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Hello Grumpier and Angels,

I finally decided to register as a free member on GLP.
Since I've been visiting this website for a long time , I can't thank you enough on how you've helped me and others.
I send you my energy and prayers to everyone in this thread, I'm doing well mentally and physically if there are any flaws in my mind or body please let me know,I also give you permission to enter my mind if there needs to be any healing,

One final thing I've been trying to unlock some abilities via Binural beats, is it possible to check what's going on with my third eye or even chakras ?

Thank you again Grumpier and Angels and everyone in this thread :)
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is it possible to check what's going on with my third eye or even chakras ?

Not very much, it will not help.

If you want I can help you.
That will be than on two moments, first to start the cleaning of your pineal gland and ten a week later making the necessary connections.
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Thank you for your reply Grumpier, I would like help with cleaning the pineal gland and making the necessary connections, should I avoid fluoride at all costs ? the water here is full of fluoride.
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I feel for you, Suzanne. Sunshine's been telling me to take care of myself and I feel you should too...don't stress over the housework...not worth it...I kind of have given up about it and only do what I feel up to doing..it's the definition of insanity, doing the same things over and over again, lol...

It's okay to vent here...I feel the same as you do in what you posted above and I'm sure I am not the only one...

Good news here: daughter has a place now to live, big relief for her...at least thru end of December...sharing a place on the lease so can build some credit history. TBH and to vent, place isn't big enough for us to stay with her when we visit so means we will have to get a hotel...was trying so hard to find a 3 bdrm that we could use one for visiting and give her the money towards rent rather than a hotel...oh well...can't really afford to go anyway, but I have to see my daughter if husband up to it...

Bad News: Husband not doing well, no chance (it looks like as of now) of him eating. Ever. Again. Dentist has tried for past year to make a denture that can fit and they have given up. He can barely talk (I have to translate so to speak) and the pain has come more and gone less this week in his shoulder. He started up the conversation again about life without him last night and I couldn't sleep afterward....it tears me up but Grumpier told me he has a long time yet, but of course I still worry...

I haven't eaten since Saturday night...broke a back tooth then and am going to need oral surgery and an implant, actually 2 one on each side...one from an unfinished root canal...it hurts to eat and I have TMJ the other morning I woke up and the pain was nearly unbearable....tried to meditate like I wrote about awhile back before getting up and that helped... But honestly it's awkward cooking and eating in front of him so it's just as well...I may have some soup tonight, though...

And Grumpier knows about a few other things in my life I won't go into here...vented enough...haven't been able to Skype because I am watching. over him...daughter will be visiting later this week and I am thankful for this blessing of seeing her... and I continue to pray for everyone and try to use the sword...I wish I could get beyond survival mode as many of us here seem to be in right now...I wish I could share better news but knowing you guys are praying for me keeps me going as I have said before and I check in here everyday and send all of you prayers, so .....hopefully things will improve for all of us in need...Trying to be patient and stay positive because I feel like that's the only way to keep things from getting worse...

Like Suzanne I think was trying to say, not being ungrateful just trying to continue to keep our chins up in the journey of life...thank you all for your understanding, love and consideration...

Hope that everything works out for you Sunshine and feel better Suzanne!
And I love you all!
Peace and blessings!

hfhfhfhf
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Thank you Basticat - I am so sorry you are struggling. I said prayers for you and your family. Please hang in there. I am feeling much better today, still limited, but, I can deal with it. I am an RN and I know how difficult it is to feel helpless when someone you love is transitioning. Please take care of yourself as you get through this painful ordeal. Much love to you!!
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This is such good news! I've been worried about you, and praying every day. I'm glad you are now safe, and your mind is at ease. I will continue to pray for our Heavenly Father to keep his loving arms wrapped around your family.
KH
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I am so happy to hear that! Thank you Grumpier and Angels for taking your time and energy to help this family. hf
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hf I Love This Thread hf
Thinking and praying for the family in Germany.
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So happy for you and your family hf
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hfhfhf
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Wonderful news for you and your family! God bless you all and I hope you can continue to live your life under far less stressful circumstances going forward. Good luck to you!
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Peace of mind is priceless.
But free hf
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Dear Grumpier, dear Angels, dear friends,
update from the german family: situation is full of positive events,
balance and calmness remained during the last days.
Strangers smile at me in the streets (never happened before)

We now actually feel quite well in "our storage home",
and work is an enjoyable one!

Thank you friends
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Amazing!! 5a hf
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This is such good news! I've been worried about you, and praying every day. I'm glad you are now safe, and your mind is at ease. I will continue to pray for our Heavenly Father to keep his loving arms wrapped around your family.
KH
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I am so happy to hear that! Thank you Grumpier and Angels for taking your time and energy to help this family. hf
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hf I Love This Thread hf
Thinking and praying for the family in Germany.
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So happy for you and your family hf
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hfhfhf
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Wonderful news for you and your family! God bless you all and I hope you can continue to live your life under far less stressful circumstances going forward. Good luck to you!
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Peace of mind is priceless.
But free hf
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Dear Grumpier, dear Angels, dear friends,
update from the german family: situation is full of positive events,
balance and calmness remained during the last days.
Strangers smile at me in the streets (never happened before)

We now actually feel quite well in "our storage home",
and work is an enjoyable one!

Thank you friends
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Great news!! 5ahfhf





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