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The Christian trinity is an idol.

 
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...Remember this:

I want to deeply apologize for all the mean shit and the inappropriate stuff I said.

I want to thank you for creating the opportunity allowing me to have an insight of experience to understand more deeply the issue of absolute/relative - good/bad truth/lie.

thank you, I genuinely feel this made me a lot smarter in my spiritual mystical journey, and that divine providence has ordained that we should have this discussion for this sake. the insights you have gained... be whatever they are.
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This isn't just different. This is polar-opposite. Quite literally an example of bi-polar, for what it's worth...
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The idea that you fetishize this God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as being the only true expression of God is ultimately just as much an idol as the trinity. That you are so hung up on this while claiming not to be a jew, but never ever saying what you are is kinda odd. Regardless, ALL conceptions fall short of God, just as he is beyond all name and form.
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hmm
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And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
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and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
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As for the rest, it's a well-known idea in Indic circles that all worship ultimately goes to God, who sees it for what it is. That's a lot more refined than your version of all the huffing and puffing and blowing his chosen ones down because they got it wrong.
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Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

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Yes, Rome invented the trinity...
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The Jewish disciples believed in the God of Israel.
The Jewish disciples believed Jesus is God.
The Jewish disciples believed in the Spirit of God.

All those that followed thereafter and came to be called Christians believed in the God of Israel, believed Jesus is God and believed in the Spirit of God.

Rome had nothing to do with it.

There can be no honest argument.

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Yes, Rome invented the trinity...
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The Jewish disciples believed in the God of Israel.
The Jewish disciples believed Jesus is God.
The Jewish disciples believed in the Spirit of God.

All those that followed thereafter and came to be called Christians believed in the God of Israel, believed Jesus is God and believed in the Spirit of God.

Rome had nothing to do with it.

There can be no honest argument.


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you joking? show me an example of Jewish disciples believing jesus is G-d?

heck even after the death of jesus they continued to offer sacrifices in the temeple (showing the gospels are evolved doctrines)
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
Psalms 85:11

There is no solution to the Jewish problem.
There is no answer to the Jewish question.

Judaism is the solution, Judaism is the answer.
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Are there new substitutes for blood sacrifice?
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Yes, Rome invented the trinity...
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The Jewish disciples believed in the God of Israel.
The Jewish disciples believed Jesus is God.
The Jewish disciples believed in the Spirit of God.

All those that followed thereafter and came to be called Christians believed in the God of Israel, believed Jesus is God and believed in the Spirit of God.

Rome had nothing to do with it.

There can be no honest argument.


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you joking? show me an example of Jewish disciples believing jesus is G-d?

heck even after the death of jesus they continued to offer sacrifices in the temeple (showing the gospels are evolved doctrines)
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Are you joking?

All of the disciples of Yeshua were Jewish.
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dont reject Jesus won't reject you if you come to him.

Come to Jesus :)
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do you worship the Messiah? do you see it as deity co equal with the father?

if so... then I cant follow you, I'd be breaking the first and second commandments.
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I go to Jesus only and none other! JESUS alone and none other.

You can call that what you want to call that. There is no other person that can save you other then him JESUS!
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G-d says no other besides him.
G-d says there is no savior but him.

so... you do see jesus as G-d.

that means you are breaking the first and second commandments, you are an idolater and wont have a place in the world to come (kingdom)

I am sorry, that you are not wise and courages enough to rise above this brainwashing done to you by rome and churchianity, because even your jesus said he is not G-d.
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No worries man :) I have seen to many signs and wonders to know the Lord and he is JESUS.

The God that I WORSHIP became a man 'temporarily' and I thank him for doing this to save me. But it is not that aspect that Christians worship. It is his new name through JESUS whom God is forever and ever that I worship.

For my God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You can claim I worship a second GOD but it is the same GOD that I worship. Because you simply do not understand.

Come to JESUS because he is forever!!!!
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Yes, Rome invented the trinity...
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The Jewish disciples believed in the God of Israel.
The Jewish disciples believed Jesus is God.
The Jewish disciples believed in the Spirit of God.

All those that followed thereafter and came to be called Christians believed in the God of Israel, believed Jesus is God and believed in the Spirit of God.

Rome had nothing to do with it.

There can be no honest argument.


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you joking? show me an example of Jewish disciples believing jesus is G-d?

heck even after the death of jesus they continued to offer sacrifices in the temeple (showing the gospels are evolved doctrines)
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Are you joking?

All of the disciples of Yeshua were Jewish.
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And none of them considered him God.
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do you worship the Messiah? do you see it as deity co equal with the father?

if so... then I cant follow you, I'd be breaking the first and second commandments.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 1


I go to Jesus only and none other! JESUS alone and none other.

You can call that what you want to call that. There is no other person that can save you other then him JESUS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70124711


G-d says no other besides him.
G-d says there is no savior but him.

so... you do see jesus as G-d.

that means you are breaking the first and second commandments, you are an idolater and wont have a place in the world to come (kingdom)

I am sorry, that you are not wise and courages enough to rise above this brainwashing done to you by rome and churchianity, because even your jesus said he is not G-d.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 1


No worries man :) I have seen to many signs and wonders to know the Lord and he is JESUS.

The God that I WORSHIP became a man 'temporarily' and I thank him for doing this to save me. But it is not that aspect that Christians worship. It is his new name through JESUS whom God is forever and ever that I worship.

For my God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You can claim I worship a second GOD but it is the same GOD that I worship. Because you simply do not understand.

Come to JESUS because he is forever!!!!
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So why did the one you call God call the God of Abraham his God?
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I go to Jesus only and none other! JESUS alone and none other.

You can call that what you want to call that. There is no other person that can save you other then him JESUS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70124711


G-d says no other besides him.
G-d says there is no savior but him.

so... you do see jesus as G-d.

that means you are breaking the first and second commandments, you are an idolater and wont have a place in the world to come (kingdom)

I am sorry, that you are not wise and courages enough to rise above this brainwashing done to you by rome and churchianity, because even your jesus said he is not G-d.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 1


No worries man :) I have seen to many signs and wonders to know the Lord and he is JESUS.

The God that I WORSHIP became a man 'temporarily' and I thank him for doing this to save me. But it is not that aspect that Christians worship. It is his new name through JESUS whom God is forever and ever that I worship.

For my God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You can claim I worship a second GOD but it is the same GOD that I worship. Because you simply do not understand.

Come to JESUS because he is forever!!!!
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So why did the one you call God call the God of Abraham his God?
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Because the human form of God cannot deny the true form of GOD. His human form was just temporary to live in 'perfect' obedience in order to die for us to save us.
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G-d says no other besides him.
G-d says there is no savior but him.

so... you do see jesus as G-d.

that means you are breaking the first and second commandments, you are an idolater and wont have a place in the world to come (kingdom)

I am sorry, that you are not wise and courages enough to rise above this brainwashing done to you by rome and churchianity, because even your jesus said he is not G-d.
 Quoting: Dr VIP 1


No worries man :) I have seen to many signs and wonders to know the Lord and he is JESUS.

The God that I WORSHIP became a man 'temporarily' and I thank him for doing this to save me. But it is not that aspect that Christians worship. It is his new name through JESUS whom God is forever and ever that I worship.

For my God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You can claim I worship a second GOD but it is the same GOD that I worship. Because you simply do not understand.

Come to JESUS because he is forever!!!!
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So why did the one you call God call the God of Abraham his God?
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Because the human form of God cannot deny the true form of GOD. His human form was just temporary to live in 'perfect' obedience in order to die for us to save us.
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What ridiculous nonsense. What religion is this? Jesus explicitly identified the Father as YHWH, and himself as not being YHWH.

God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? Numbers 23:19
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No worries man :) I have seen to many signs and wonders to know the Lord and he is JESUS.

The God that I WORSHIP became a man 'temporarily' and I thank him for doing this to save me. But it is not that aspect that Christians worship. It is his new name through JESUS whom God is forever and ever that I worship.

For my God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You can claim I worship a second GOD but it is the same GOD that I worship. Because you simply do not understand.

Come to JESUS because he is forever!!!!
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So why did the one you call God call the God of Abraham his God?
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Because the human form of God cannot deny the true form of GOD. His human form was just temporary to live in 'perfect' obedience in order to die for us to save us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


What ridiculous nonsense. What religion is this? Jesus explicitly identified the Father as YHWH, and himself as not being YHWH.

God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? Numbers 23:19
 Quoting: Monotheism


Not a man......became a man. Big.....big difference. And he became a 'man' for our sake!

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

God is still GOD despite 'becoming' a human for a brief time period. You simply can not grasp this.
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So why did the one you call God call the God of Abraham his God?
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Because the human form of God cannot deny the true form of GOD. His human form was just temporary to live in 'perfect' obedience in order to die for us to save us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


What ridiculous nonsense. What religion is this? Jesus explicitly identified the Father as YHWH, and himself as not being YHWH.

God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? Numbers 23:19
 Quoting: Monotheism


Not a man......became a man. Big.....big difference. And he became a 'man' for our sake!

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

God is still GOD despite 'becoming' a human for a brief time period. You simply can not grasp this.
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God does not change, and even the NT says God is spirit (John 4:24). And Jesus is not and never claimed to be YHWH.

And the Greek word translated as see, horao, also has a figurative meaning of perceiving, knowing or experience; the entire passage is about knowing God through Jesus (what was manifest). Again, what religion is this? Your own take of modalistic Christianity or Oneness Pentecostalism?

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Because the human form of God cannot deny the true form of GOD. His human form was just temporary to live in 'perfect' obedience in order to die for us to save us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


What ridiculous nonsense. What religion is this? Jesus explicitly identified the Father as YHWH, and himself as not being YHWH.

God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? Numbers 23:19
 Quoting: Monotheism


Not a man......became a man. Big.....big difference. And he became a 'man' for our sake!

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

God is still GOD despite 'becoming' a human for a brief time period. You simply can not grasp this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


God does not change, and even the NT says God is spirit (John 4:24). And Jesus is not and never claimed to be YHWH.

And the Greek word translated as see, horao, as has a figurative meaning of perceiving, knowing or experience; the entire passage is about knowing God through Jesus (what was manifest). Again, what religion is this? Your own take of modalistic Christianity or Oneness Pentecostalism?
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It is simply God becoming a human to die for me and resurrect. And that human is Jesus, he has saved me from my sins.

JESUS CHRIST is BOTH LORD and SAVIOR.
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What ridiculous nonsense. What religion is this? Jesus explicitly identified the Father as YHWH, and himself as not being YHWH.

God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? Numbers 23:19
 Quoting: Monotheism


Not a man......became a man. Big.....big difference. And he became a 'man' for our sake!

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

God is still GOD despite 'becoming' a human for a brief time period. You simply can not grasp this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


God does not change, and even the NT says God is spirit (John 4:24). And Jesus is not and never claimed to be YHWH.

And the Greek word translated as see, horao, as has a figurative meaning of perceiving, knowing or experience; the entire passage is about knowing God through Jesus (what was manifest). Again, what religion is this? Your own take of modalistic Christianity or Oneness Pentecostalism?
 Quoting: Monotheism



It is simply God becoming a human to die for me and resurrect. And that human is Jesus, he has saved me from my sins.

JESUS CHRIST is BOTH LORD and SAVIOR.
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God is not human and does not change. Lord, kyrios, means a person of authority - nothing more, nothing less. When LORD in all capitals appears in the Old Testament however it is a substitution of the tetragrammaton, God's name, YHWH. Jesus is not God.

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Not a man......became a man. Big.....big difference. And he became a 'man' for our sake!

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

God is still GOD despite 'becoming' a human for a brief time period. You simply can not grasp this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


God does not change, and even the NT says God is spirit (John 4:24). And Jesus is not and never claimed to be YHWH.

And the Greek word translated as see, horao, as has a figurative meaning of perceiving, knowing or experience; the entire passage is about knowing God through Jesus (what was manifest). Again, what religion is this? Your own take of modalistic Christianity or Oneness Pentecostalism?
 Quoting: Monotheism



It is simply God becoming a human to die for me and resurrect. And that human is Jesus, he has saved me from my sins.

JESUS CHRIST is BOTH LORD and SAVIOR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


God is not human and does not change. Lord, kyrios, means a person of authority - nothing more, nothing less. When LORD in all capitals appears in the Old Testament however in a substitution of the tetragrammaton, God's name, YHWH. Jesus is not God.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

Thread: Peter, the only man commended for recognizing Jesus as Messiah...
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God did not change even though he became a human for a time period. HE is still the same forever. This being whom GOD became his visible image. As the CHRIST is both LORD and SAVIOR.

MY ONE GOD has saved me through JESUS. Come to him for he is the ONLY one that can save you in the end.
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God does not change, and even the NT says God is spirit (John 4:24). And Jesus is not and never claimed to be YHWH.

And the Greek word translated as see, horao, as has a figurative meaning of perceiving, knowing or experience; the entire passage is about knowing God through Jesus (what was manifest). Again, what religion is this? Your own take of modalistic Christianity or Oneness Pentecostalism?
 Quoting: Monotheism



It is simply God becoming a human to die for me and resurrect. And that human is Jesus, he has saved me from my sins.

JESUS CHRIST is BOTH LORD and SAVIOR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


God is not human and does not change. Lord, kyrios, means a person of authority - nothing more, nothing less. When LORD in all capitals appears in the Old Testament however in a substitution of the tetragrammaton, God's name, YHWH. Jesus is not God.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

Thread: Peter, the only man commended for recognizing Jesus as Messiah...
 Quoting: Monotheism



God did not change even though he became a human for a time period. HE is still the same forever. This being whom GOD became his visible image. As the CHRIST is both LORD and SAVIOR.

MY ONE GOD has saved me through JESUS. Come to him for he is the ONLY one that can save you in the end.
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Spirit becoming human flesh is a change. Who did Jesus pray to?
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It is simply God becoming a human to die for me and resurrect. And that human is Jesus, he has saved me from my sins.

JESUS CHRIST is BOTH LORD and SAVIOR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


God is not human and does not change. Lord, kyrios, means a person of authority - nothing more, nothing less. When LORD in all capitals appears in the Old Testament however in a substitution of the tetragrammaton, God's name, YHWH. Jesus is not God.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

Thread: Peter, the only man commended for recognizing Jesus as Messiah...
 Quoting: Monotheism



God did not change even though he became a human for a time period. HE is still the same forever. This being whom GOD became his visible image. As the CHRIST is both LORD and SAVIOR.

MY ONE GOD has saved me through JESUS. Come to him for he is the ONLY one that can save you in the end.
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Spirit becoming human flesh is a change. Who did Jesus pray to?
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He prayed to his TRUE SELF, for that TRUE SELF did not change.
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God is not human and does not change. Lord, kyrios, means a person of authority - nothing more, nothing less. When LORD in all capitals appears in the Old Testament however in a substitution of the tetragrammaton, God's name, YHWH. Jesus is not God.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

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 Quoting: Monotheism



God did not change even though he became a human for a time period. HE is still the same forever. This being whom GOD became his visible image. As the CHRIST is both LORD and SAVIOR.

MY ONE GOD has saved me through JESUS. Come to him for he is the ONLY one that can save you in the end.
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Spirit becoming human flesh is a change. Who did Jesus pray to?
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He prayed to his TRUE SELF, for that TRUE SELF did not change.
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So the false self prayed to the true self? Just stop. Please, check out some of the links in my signature, and read some of my threads.

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God did not change even though he became a human for a time period. HE is still the same forever. This being whom GOD became his visible image. As the CHRIST is both LORD and SAVIOR.

MY ONE GOD has saved me through JESUS. Come to him for he is the ONLY one that can save you in the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


Spirit becoming human flesh is a change. Who did Jesus pray to?
 Quoting: Monotheism


He prayed to his TRUE SELF, for that TRUE SELF did not change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


So the false self prayed to the true self? Just stop. Please, check out some of the links in my signature, and read some of my threads.

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I know you can not seem to understand but this is why the Lord Jesus is the "ONLY" savior. This is why he is the CHRIST because his TRUE SELF the FATHER has chosen him for the forgiveness of sins.

JESUS is both LORD and Savior.
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Spirit becoming human flesh is a change. Who did Jesus pray to?
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He prayed to his TRUE SELF, for that TRUE SELF did not change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


So the false self prayed to the true self? Just stop. Please, check out some of the links in my signature, and read some of my threads.

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I know you can not seem to understand but this is why the Lord Jesus is the "ONLY" savior. This is why he is the CHRIST because his TRUE SELF the FATHER has chosen him for the forgiveness of sins.

JESUS is both LORD and Savior.
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He "choose" himself? How is that even a choice? Please, just do your research.
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He prayed to his TRUE SELF, for that TRUE SELF did not change.
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So the false self prayed to the true self? Just stop. Please, check out some of the links in my signature, and read some of my threads.

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 Quoting: Monotheism


I know you can not seem to understand but this is why the Lord Jesus is the "ONLY" savior. This is why he is the CHRIST because his TRUE SELF the FATHER has chosen him for the forgiveness of sins.

JESUS is both LORD and Savior.
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He "choose" himself? How is that even a choice? Please, just do your research.
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Whom else could he choose to be LORD and SAVIOR. GOD chose himself for this task.

I've done my research and GOD has revealed it to me as well.
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So the false self prayed to the true self? Just stop. Please, check out some of the links in my signature, and read some of my threads.

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I know you can not seem to understand but this is why the Lord Jesus is the "ONLY" savior. This is why he is the CHRIST because his TRUE SELF the FATHER has chosen him for the forgiveness of sins.

JESUS is both LORD and Savior.
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He "choose" himself? How is that even a choice? Please, just do your research.
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Whom else could he choose to be LORD and SAVIOR. GOD chose himself for this task.

I've done my research and GOD has revealed it to me as well.
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Scripture explicitly says the messiah will fear God, not be God. Jesus' own words denied him beings God. Peter's word - the only man commended for truly recognize for who he was - denies Jesus beings God. So no, you haven't done your research. Did you even know that the capitalized LORD in the OT is substitution of the tetragrammaton?

Why choose ignorance and deception when you don't have to? Why make that active choice?
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I know you can not seem to understand but this is why the Lord Jesus is the "ONLY" savior. This is why he is the CHRIST because his TRUE SELF the FATHER has chosen him for the forgiveness of sins.

JESUS is both LORD and Savior.
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He "choose" himself? How is that even a choice? Please, just do your research.
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Whom else could he choose to be LORD and SAVIOR. GOD chose himself for this task.

I've done my research and GOD has revealed it to me as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


Scripture explicitly says the messiah will fear God, not be God. Jesus' own words denied him beings God. Peter's word - the only man commended for truly recognize for who he was - denies Jesus beings God. So no, you haven't done your research. Did you even know that the capitalized LORD in the OT is substitution of the tetragrammaton?

Why choose ignorance and deception when you don't have to? Why make that active choice?
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Because when the signs and wonders come upon you...then the truth is known. You don't know because your heart is in your own wisdom. Jesus makes it clear who he is and he alone is savior for taking the sin of the world.

John 1:29
The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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Re: The Christian trinity is an idol.
The Hindu trinity makes much more sense. The Ultimate Source of creation/non-creation, Beyond consciousness, beyond all attributes of any kind, beyond human comprehension is Brahman. From that is it's aspects; Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva: Creator, Sustainer/equilibrium, Destroyer. These are not really individual "gods" but merely aspects or "roles" of The One, which is Everything and Beyond. All things are created, last for a while, then decay. All Hindu gods are simply aspects or "roles" of Brahman. It's like when you go to a small town and the sheriff is also the judge, and owns the saloon. From what I've read, Vishnu is the only aspect that incarnates as a physical being.
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He "choose" himself? How is that even a choice? Please, just do your research.
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Whom else could he choose to be LORD and SAVIOR. GOD chose himself for this task.

I've done my research and GOD has revealed it to me as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73117241


Scripture explicitly says the messiah will fear God, not be God. Jesus' own words denied him beings God. Peter's word - the only man commended for truly recognize for who he was - denies Jesus beings God. So no, you haven't done your research. Did you even know that the capitalized LORD in the OT is substitution of the tetragrammaton?

Why choose ignorance and deception when you don't have to? Why make that active choice?
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Because when the signs and wonders come upon you...then the truth is known. You don't know because your heart is in your own wisdom. Jesus makes it clear who he is and he alone is savior for taking the sin of the world.

John 1:29
The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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Jesus said true worshippers will worship the Father. Not him, not the trinity.

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What "are" you? What is your label?
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Or maybe labels are only for narrow-minded dogmatists?

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You mean labels like "the true God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? You tell me. Are they only for narrow-minded dogmatists?
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The irony. That's not a label, that's a specific non-label given to people that insist upon labels to define people's faith. Like you just now. Or maybe non-labels aren't for narrow-minded dogmatists either?
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Mono, if you have a designation for God that goes beyond God and walls it off as the God "of" this group or that, then it is indeed a label and the rest is just sophistry. When you seek to marginalize others who pursue God in the way they are drawn to, then you have created a box for your God.

Why you are on this forced march against the Trinity only you know, but do you seriously believe that those who believe it are somehow doomed or something? You spoke of believing in an accounting when you die. Do you think that if this is so, God is going to take an ardent devotee of Jesus and say, sorry, sport, you fell for that crooked council crap and now you are screwed?

Do you really feel that the great Christian mystics over the years like Teresa of Avila, or John of the Cross, or Meister Eckhart were somehow working at a deficit because they were ardent believers in the trinity? On what grounds could you possible support such an argument?
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