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The Christian trinity is an idol.

 
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Whom else could he choose to be LORD and SAVIOR. GOD chose himself for this task.

I've done my research and GOD has revealed it to me as well.
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Scripture explicitly says the messiah will fear God, not be God. Jesus' own words denied him beings God. Peter's word - the only man commended for truly recognize for who he was - denies Jesus beings God. So no, you haven't done your research. Did you even know that the capitalized LORD in the OT is substitution of the tetragrammaton?

Why choose ignorance and deception when you don't have to? Why make that active choice?
 Quoting: Monotheism



Because when the signs and wonders come upon you...then the truth is known. You don't know because your heart is in your own wisdom. Jesus makes it clear who he is and he alone is savior for taking the sin of the world.

John 1:29
The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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Jesus said true worshippers will worship the Father. Not him, not the trinity.

Thread: No trinitarians in the kingdom?
 Quoting: Monotheism


You left out a big part of his quote. Worship the Father "IN" Spirit and truth. The truth is Jesus and HE gives us the Holy Spirit to dwell inside of us.

This is true worship for the Father.

Worship.....through Jesus.

John 4:23
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.



But you have to love Jesus more then 'anyone' and follow him only.

Matthew 10:37-38
Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.


So I follow him.........ONLY. He is the ONE
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I'm not the butthurt one, doc. You have this pathological need to see yourself and your folk as superior in all things and it's kinda sad, to tell you the truth. Look at your bit about the collapse of a civilization. Wtf is that about? Who the are you guys to talk about civilizations? You never even had a civilization to collapse, but are a tiny tribe that has been bounced around from civilization to civilization always under someone's thumb or heel, whether it was Egypt, Babylon, Greece, or Rome. And yet you think you guys are gonna bring torah to the world to save it and everybody is going to dance to Yahweh's tune. And yet, even there, it all has to come by subterfuge and deceit.
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subterfuge a deciet? I honestly thought you were better than this.

and now I am sure you are butthurt, because it is an Hebraic world you are living in, not whatever is your own cultural backround.
I am not sorry that Hebrewism is wining despite you being butthurt.

and no, we are not successful because we are very good, we are actually not so good, as is really obvious. we are successful because the Torah is true.

so ofcourse other races like you... are butthurt and you constantly throw these lies at us trying to stop us... not going to happen

and you know whats funny? it is obvious the butthurt comes from the fact it is Hebrewism and not your own culture that is dominating, and the funny part is that we are winning so hard that you are not even trying to use only your culture agaisnt us, but other cultures, as if such tiny tribe is so powerful for one culture to take on alone, but now the entire cultures and histories of the world need to be recruited.

as nixon said, aliens would cause humanity to unite lol.
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No, doc, you didn't think I was better than anything. You just got done a few posts ago telling me what a deceitful liar I was and would have probably still be singing that tune if I hadn't pulled up your words about profusely apologizing to me for your last spate of such shit. It's what you do, and you aim it at anyone who goes against your dogmatic slant.

You go on about Hewbrewism winning and all this. Winning what? I don't even know what that means. I don't relate to the world that way, so it doesn't make any sense to me. I know there are judaic roots in the judeo christian basis of civilization, but it's not like they are the only roots we have. Greco-roman roots are equally foundational and there are cross currents from other strains east and west.

Whatever you are on about isn't tracking with me at all. I don't even know what it means to say that you are wrong because I don't even know what you mean when you say hebrewism is dominating the world. The only thing I could come up with is what folks say about the banksters and nwo stuff, and I already know you are pinning that on being made a scapegoat by the jesuits.

This idea of world domination under any banner simply makes no sense to me. It's like dominating a puppet show. What's the point? Seriously. If you could just explain what all this effort goes to and why, maybe I could grok it, but I just don't get it.
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I got a little too carried away by your comment about "subterfuge and deceit"
nvm forget it.

anyway, heres the message of Torah, "the supreme infallibe one? yeah that one... worship only that one, no other thing beneath him is divine"

and that idea dominates the world, there is no religion predating Judaism that carries that idea... all other religions were there to support the divinity claim of the monarch and state which resulted in the population being slaves.

and if you cant see that this is the essence of Judaim, exodus out of pagan egypt to freedom, and now exodus out of papal rome and their nwo to freedom... then I have nothing more to add.
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I'm not seeing how you think this torah message is dominating the world, doc. Even if you add in Allah, which I kinda suspect you would not be willing to do, you still come up way short in the world domination business. Hindus don't dance to your tune, buddhists don't dance to your tune, nor do christians, never mind all the rest of the folks running around the globe. So where you are getting the domination bit remains a mystery.

I can see how the exodus story is a powerful call to freedom for your national myth, but even there, the freedom was just for your own, and taking the tale literally, which you do and I don't, the first thing you did with your "freedom" is slaughter those living in their traditional lands and then steal it and insist it was yours because what you call the supreme inallible One said that's what you should do, being his chosen ones while he left the rest of the 99.99% of the population of the world he created to whatever befell them because he only had eyes for you guys. Then you pissed him off again as is your want, and it's back to captivity under the assyrians and then back in chains in babylon and then under the thumb of the greeks and then the romans and then scattered to the winds and then, well, you know the drill.

Sorry, doc, but I don't see how this world domination bit works.
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Scripture explicitly says the messiah will fear God, not be God. Jesus' own words denied him beings God. Peter's word - the only man commended for truly recognize for who he was - denies Jesus beings God. So no, you haven't done your research. Did you even know that the capitalized LORD in the OT is substitution of the tetragrammaton?

Why choose ignorance and deception when you don't have to? Why make that active choice?
 Quoting: Monotheism



Because when the signs and wonders come upon you...then the truth is known. You don't know because your heart is in your own wisdom. Jesus makes it clear who he is and he alone is savior for taking the sin of the world.

John 1:29
The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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Jesus said true worshippers will worship the Father. Not him, not the trinity.

Thread: No trinitarians in the kingdom?
 Quoting: Monotheism


You left out a big part of his quote. Worship the Father "IN" Spirit and truth. The truth is Jesus and HE gives us the Holy Spirit to dwell inside of us.

This is true worship for the Father.

Worship.....through Jesus.

John 4:23
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.



But you have to love Jesus more then 'anyone' and follow him only.

Matthew 10:37-38
Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.


So I follow him.........ONLY. He is the ONE
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I didn't leave out anything. In the same passage he also identifies the Father alone as the God of Israel. How can you follow someone you don't even have the same God as?

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No, doc, you didn't think I was better than anything. You just got done a few posts ago telling me what a deceitful liar I was and would have probably still be singing that tune if I hadn't pulled up your words about profusely apologizing to me for your last spate of such shit. It's what you do, and you aim it at anyone who goes against your dogmatic slant.

You go on about Hewbrewism winning and all this. Winning what? I don't even know what that means. I don't relate to the world that way, so it doesn't make any sense to me. I know there are judaic roots in the judeo christian basis of civilization, but it's not like they are the only roots we have. Greco-roman roots are equally foundational and there are cross currents from other strains east and west.

Whatever you are on about isn't tracking with me at all. I don't even know what it means to say that you are wrong because I don't even know what you mean when you say hebrewism is dominating the world. The only thing I could come up with is what folks say about the banksters and nwo stuff, and I already know you are pinning that on being made a scapegoat by the jesuits.

This idea of world domination under any banner simply makes no sense to me. It's like dominating a puppet show. What's the point? Seriously. If you could just explain what all this effort goes to and why, maybe I could grok it, but I just don't get it.
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I got a little too carried away by your comment about "subterfuge and deceit"
nvm forget it.

anyway, heres the message of Torah, "the supreme infallibe one? yeah that one... worship only that one, no other thing beneath him is divine"

and that idea dominates the world, there is no religion predating Judaism that carries that idea... all other religions were there to support the divinity claim of the monarch and state which resulted in the population being slaves.

and if you cant see that this is the essence of Judaim, exodus out of pagan egypt to freedom, and now exodus out of papal rome and their nwo to freedom... then I have nothing more to add.
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Doc, you told me you were waged in a war to bring down rome and christianity. How are you gonna do that without subterfuge and deceit? So don't trip over my saying back to you what you were saying.

As for the rest, it's a well-known idea in Indic circles that all worship ultimately goes to God, who sees it for what it is. That's a lot more refined than your version of all the huffing and puffing and blowing his chosen ones down because they got it wrong.
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if its done through subterfuge and deceit then it aint going to work... we are doing it by simply teaching Judaism to Jews and having those Jews talk about it, and this talking spreads to the none Jewish world and becomes a meme and before you know it you have a truth movement working to take down the roman establishment while on the way debating bible and whether its Jews who are behind it all.
really... if you cant see this sort of Judaic influence is over the world is supernatural that has forced empires to bend and step down and change to fit the demands of their people slowly converting from the absolute divine monarchs despots into a democarcy of the people... really if you dont see the supernatural behind this, the impossibility that it is simply natural... well, just well.

bow down to a cow and think it goes to god... if you dont see that as wrong, then just well.
maybe when again you are forced to bow down to a demigod king who takes your wife for prima nocta you will see it is not so good to bow down to a cow
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You are going to bring down the vatican and the nwo with a meme based on teaching judaism to jews and debating the bible? Not sure how that would work, since the guys that you seek to take down coopted your bible 2000 years ago and never looked back. Now they have their eyes on Jerusalem and are working to finalize their control over it. You think you are going to debate them out of that?

Can you list the empires you have brought to their knees. I goggled it and came up blank. How you are taking credit for democracy is beyond me, but there ya go. Regarless, if you are paying attention to that world out there you are under the impression that you guys are dominating, democracy is in its death throes in every way but the sham show.

There are those who want to pin it on you guys as being behind the decline of western civ and this treacherous onslaught of sludge that's washing up on our cultural shores in the way of the insane multi-culty gender bender assault of political correctness and the like, but you have been a staunch denier of such talk and blame the jesuits, so I'm not really sure where you guys fit into the mix on the face of it.
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None of that is what I am talking about, doc. There is only the One. Hinduism understand that quite well, even there are multitudinous expressions of it. Hell, they take it a step beyond you guys because you trip all over the idea that the creator and created and never the twain shall meet while they know that there is only the One. Period. And ultimately they don't worship it, the realize they are one with it because everything is one with it because It is all there is and the rest is a show of light and shadow, an illusion.
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and then they go into the temples and worship monkeys and rivers and they claim their king is god.

yeah... but you ignore reality just to carry with your stupid point.
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Doc, your one trick pony is not making any hay in this argument. You want to take the lowest common denominator you know you guys don't fare any better. But if you want to claim your highest as the bar, you will have to accept the other side's highest as well. If not, then all those folks who you claim were infected by paganism are your standard bearers and your whole argument hits the curb with a clank.
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this "titanic" shtick aint going to work this time around.

unlike Jews worshipping baal, wherein it can be shown Torah prescribed religion is distinct from canaanite baalism.

it is shown that quite clrealy that the worship of objects other than the one within those religions is engraved in their core and not something some of the adherents fell into.
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I thought baal just meant lord, just like el means lord, and who can keep such straight, so I'll leave you to work through all that because I can't figure out how Yahweh was a caananite storm god just like baal and el was the head of the caananite pantheon and yahweh was a son of el and all that. It's frightfully complicated and mixed up and the more you read about it the more mixed up it gets.

I don't know anyone anywhere who worships objects, just like I don't know anyone who worships cows, or rivers or monkeys, or any of that stuff you are on about.

I do know that some folks worship the divine as expressed trough this or that, but that's different. I don't go for such myself, but I know that others find the external focus helpful and when you take it away from them, well, they go running back to it, as your book spells out quite well.

As for that, what's with this stuff about God residing in a temple or an ark? Can't say I ever got that. You guys didn't really believe that he was actually in there in a way that was exclusive to him being everywhere always, did you?
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Jesus' God wasn't a trinity. If your God is a trinity you don't even have the same God. How is that not rejection?
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Trinity? What's the fuss? That's a way for us to begin to see.

Try Infinity
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To infinity and beyond! Nice to see someone looking outside the box for a change. As Nisargadatta put is so succinctly, the key is earnestness, not this or that path. This God or that God? There is only God. Period.
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The idea that you fetishize this God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as being the only true expression of God is ultimately just as much an idol as the trinity. That you are so hung up on this while claiming not to be a jew, but never ever saying what you are is kinda odd. Regardless, ALL conceptions fall short of God, just as he is beyond all name and form.
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hmm
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ohyeah
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The Hindu trinity makes much more sense. The Ultimate Source of creation/non-creation, Beyond consciousness, beyond all attributes of any kind, beyond human comprehension is Brahman. From that is it's aspects; Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva: Creator, Sustainer/equilibrium, Destroyer. These are not really individual "gods" but merely aspects or "roles" of The One, which is Everything and Beyond. All things are created, last for a while, then decay. All Hindu gods are simply aspects or "roles" of Brahman. It's like when you go to a small town and the sheriff is also the judge, and owns the saloon. From what I've read, Vishnu is the only aspect that incarnates as a physical being.
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God descending into flesh would be the concept of an avatar, before it became the name for these picture thingys. This is why so many hindus have no problem with Jesus being an avatar, tough they aren't buying the only begotten son bit for a second since what the Christians see as being an exclusive being in history is just one of many as far as the hindu scriptures have it.

Regardless, anyone who groks Brahman realizes that all the rest is just various expressions of the expressionless beyond name and form. That's why the idea of my God vs. your God is such an alien idea and also why there is such a bizarre blizzard of expressions in hinduism. I suppose there are some fundie types who want to throw down for this or that one being superior to the rest, but the wise and even the not so wise understand that it's all expressions of the One.
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Because when the signs and wonders come upon you...then the truth is known. You don't know because your heart is in your own wisdom. Jesus makes it clear who he is and he alone is savior for taking the sin of the world.

John 1:29
The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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Jesus said true worshippers will worship the Father. Not him, not the trinity.

Thread: No trinitarians in the kingdom?
 Quoting: Monotheism


You left out a big part of his quote. Worship the Father "IN" Spirit and truth. The truth is Jesus and HE gives us the Holy Spirit to dwell inside of us.

This is true worship for the Father.

Worship.....through Jesus.

John 4:23
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.



But you have to love Jesus more then 'anyone' and follow him only.

Matthew 10:37-38
Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.


So I follow him.........ONLY. He is the ONE


I didn't leave out anything. In the same passage he also identifies the Father alone as the God of Israel. How can you follow someone you don't even have the same God as?


To follow requires going or walking. How do I follow my Lord? Simple the Holy Spirit of Christ is inside of me. All I had to do was believe in Jesus by 'faith' and wait for the Spirit of the Lord. :)

You did leave out...'in' Spirit and truth? Did you not? Maybe not on purp
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I believe it is required to understand what Jesus is talking about.

John 15:26
But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Fath
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Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.


The Holy Spirit of the Father in Jesus names dwells on you so you 'can' worship in Spirit.

But it is only through the name in Jesus, in which it is given. This is true worship in Spirit and Truth.
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I didn't leave out anything. In the same passage he also identifies the Father alone as the God of Israel. How can you follow someone you don't even have the same God as?
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The same way you worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob without being a Jew. It's about the heart, not the book.
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So why did the one you call God call the God of Abraham his God?
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Father.
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And none of them considered him God.
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Not at first. Not always. Not without doubts. Not without questions.

Of course.

But they learned.

Their hearts were open.

They were no too prideful...
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And none of them considered him God.
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Not at first. Not always. Not without doubts. Not without questions.

Of course.

But they learned.

Their hearts were open.

They were not too prideful...
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Mono,

When will you be willing to discuss Jesus Christ with me?

Will you ever be willing to answer my questions to you concerning Yeshua HaMashiach?

Yes or No, please.
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So why did the one you call God call the God of Abraham his God?
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Mono, please answer.

Did Jesus say 'Believe in God."

or did He say "Believe in Me."?

This is Jesus 101.

Mono, can you say

What did He say?
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Not a man......became a man. Big.....big difference. And he became a 'man' for our sake!

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

God is still GOD despite 'becoming' a human for a brief time period. You simply can not grasp this.
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He understands.

He refuses. He denies.

He wars against.

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God does not change, and even the NT says God is spirit
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Is Your God physical?
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3 is bad, but your 2 is good?!
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When can we discuss this?

When will you answer?
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When can we discuss this?

When will you answer?
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He never answers those questions.
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MonoVed,

Jesus died for you.
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MonoVed,

Your sins were atoned for
on Him
on The Cross,
if You Will.

That can only be between you and Him.
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No worries man :) I have seen to many signs and wonders to know the Lord and he is JESUS.

The God that I WORSHIP became a man 'temporarily' and I thank him for doing this to save me. But it is not that aspect that Christians worship. It is his new name through JESUS whom God is forever and ever that I worship.

For my God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. You can claim I worship a second GOD but it is the same GOD that I worship. Because you simply do not understand.

Come to JESUS because he is forever!!!!
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Because the human form of God cannot deny the true form of GOD. His human form was just temporary to live in 'perfect' obedience in order to die for us to save us.
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Not a man......became a man. Big.....big difference. And he became a 'man' for our sake!

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

God is still GOD despite 'becoming' a human for a brief time period. You simply can not grasp this.
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It is simply God becoming a human to die for me and resurrect. And that human is Jesus, he has saved me from my sins.

JESUS CHRIST is BOTH LORD and SAVIOR.
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God did not change even though he became a human for a time period. HE is still the same forever. This being whom GOD became his visible image. As the CHRIST is both LORD and SAVIOR.

MY ONE GOD has saved me through JESUS. Come to him for he is the ONLY one that can save you in the end.
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I know you can not seem to understand but this is why the Lord Jesus is the "ONLY" savior. This is why he is the CHRIST because his TRUE SELF the FATHER has chosen him for the forgiveness of sins.

JESUS is both LORD and Savior.
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Whom else could he choose to be LORD and SAVIOR. GOD chose himself for this task.

I've done my research and GOD has revealed it to me as well.
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Because when the signs and wonders come upon you...then the truth is known. You don't know because your heart is in your own wisdom. Jesus makes it clear who he is and he alone is savior for taking the sin of the world.

John 1:29
The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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Excellent testimony, brother. Faithful and True.

Listen to this man. He knows.
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God is not human and does not change. Lord, kyrios, means a person of authority - nothing more, nothing less. When LORD in all capitals appears in the Old Testament however it is a substitution of the tetragrammaton, God's name, YHWH. Jesus is not God.
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Mono,

Did Jesus "come down from heaven"?

Yes or No?

Please answer.
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Re: The Christian trinity is an idol.
Spirit becoming human flesh is a change. Who did Jesus pray to?
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Jesus God the Son prayed to, fellowshipped with, and communed with God the Father.

The Two as One

as man united with woman is supposed to be our greatest and closest understanding ideally...

Jesus God the Son was also likewise at he same time, remember, consider...
bearing the full weight of His humanity and yours
in another role in part of His Whole Fulfillment
that will one day really understand
that we now have no idea

but we believe

or we do not.
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Spirit becoming human flesh is a change. Who did Jesus pray to?
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Jesus God the Son prayed to, fellowshipped with, and communed with God the Father.

The Two as One

as man united with woman is supposed to be our greatest and closest understanding ideally...

Jesus God the Son was also likewise at the same time, remember, consider...
bearing the full weight of His humanity and yours
in another role in part of His Whole Fulfillment
that we will one day really understand
that we now really have no idea

but we believe anyway

or we do not.
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Re: The Christian trinity is an idol.
MonoVed,

When can we discuss these things?

Since you have insisted for so long, when will you answer these things?
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Why choose ignorance and deception when you don't have to? Why make that active choice?
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You accuse.
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Jesus said true worshippers will worship the Father. Not him, not the trinity.

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MonoVed,

Did Jesus say "Come to Me. Believe in Me."?

Yes or No?

Please answer.
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Mono, if you have a designation for God that goes beyond God and walls it off as the God "of" this group or that, then it is indeed a label and the rest is just sophistry. When you seek to marginalize others who pursue God in the way they are drawn to, then you have created a box for your God.

Why you are on this forced march against the Trinity only you know, but do you seriously believe that those who believe it are somehow doomed or something? You spoke of believing in an accounting when you die. Do you think that if this is so, God is going to take an ardent devotee of Jesus and say, sorry, sport, you fell for that crooked council crap and now you are screwed?

Do you really feel that the great Christian mystics over the years like Teresa of Avila, or John of the Cross, or Meister Eckhart were somehow working at a deficit because they were ardent believers in the trinity? On what grounds could you possible support such an argument?
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Do you refuse to consider the possibility that he is quite literally of the spirit of antichrist?

Does Antichrist come claiming good or evil?
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