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The Christian trinity is an idol.

 
Monotheism  (OP)

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I have never spoken to you other than simply and directly.

You have always quite despised me for it.

It is not necessary.

I only tell you that Christ is Good.
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I know who you are, J, and you've never been simple or direct. I don't despise you, I just find you annoying.
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Jesus Says he's Not Good
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and you've never been simple or direct.
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Most simple and most direct.

I am nobody but a Believer in Jesus Christ.
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Jesus Says he's Not Good
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Thread: Jesus is Good.
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Jesus Says he's Not Good
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Thread: Jesus is Good.
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You give me a Link to a Thread ?

Here's a Link to The Horses Mouth , Since you believe in the Bible Right ?

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It's a false, conceptualized image of the true God, and the golden calf of Christianity. To serve the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob you need to reject the trinity idol.
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The blessed Trinity is no man-made doctrine or idol as you would propose.

This sacred mystery is revealed to us from heaven and through the body of Christ, His Church, the Catholic Church.

The Father glorifies the Son by the Holy Spirit

3 in 1
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See the fifth book in the Torah Ch 6 vs 4 . A bunch of pagan priests banded together and formed the Trinity. And the Catholic Church is the beast by the way .
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Jesus Says he's Not Good
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That is correct he said ' not one is good but the Father .'
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Jesus Says he's Not Good
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Thread: Jesus is Good.
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You give me a Link to a Thread ?

Here's a Link to The Horses Mouth , Since you believe in the Bible Right ?

[link to biblehub.com]
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Do you say the words of Christ are True or False?
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Jesus Says he's Not Good
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That is correct
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False.
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Jesus Says he's Not Good
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Thread: Jesus is Good.
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You give me a Link to a Thread ?

Here's a Link to The Horses Mouth , Since you believe in the Bible Right ?

[link to biblehub.com]
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Do you say the words of Christ are True or False?
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Sorry but I see in color not black or white
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I have never spoken to you other than simply and directly.

You have always quite despised me for it.

It is not necessary.

I only tell you that Christ is Good.
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I know who you are, J, and you've never been simple or direct. I don't despise you, I just find you annoying.
 Quoting: Monotheism

You call me J

because of how many times

I have asked you so many questions

that you have never answered

that it repeatedly got to the point of me posting that video

to mock your refusal to answer

in simple and direct truths.

Therefore, you have never had a kind word and only spoken evil of me.

In the Name of God.
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Because I tell you the Truth, have I therefore become your enemy?
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Jesus Christ IS Truth.
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I have never spoken to you other than simply and directly.

You have always quite despised me for it.

It is not necessary.

I only tell you that Christ is Good.
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I know who you are, J, and you've never been simple or direct. I don't despise you, I just find you annoying.
 Quoting: Monotheism

You call me J

because of how many times

I have asked you so many questions

that you have never answered

that it repeatedly got to the point of me posting that video

to mock your refusal to answer

in simple and direct truths.

Therefore, you have never had a kind word and only spoken evil of me.

In the Name of God.
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Mono is very Wise , and Quick to share His Vast Knowledge on the Subject .

I think you must be asking unreasonable Questions
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I have never spoken to you other than simply and directly.

You have always quite despised me for it.

It is not necessary.

I only tell you that Christ is Good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56287028


I know who you are, J, and you've never been simple or direct. I don't despise you, I just find you annoying.
 Quoting: Monotheism

You call me J

because of how many times

I have asked you so many questions

that you have never answered

that it repeatedly got to the point of me posting that video

to mock your refusal to answer

in simple and direct truths.

Therefore, you have never had a kind word and only spoken evil of me.

In the Name of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56287028


I've questioned your mental health, but I've have never spoken evil of you, or anyone on GLP for that matter. Fact is I've been nothing but exceedingly patient with you. I think you might be imagining things.
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Because I tell you the Truth, have I therefore become your enemy?
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Haha .. What am I gonna Do to you ? Haha peace

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You give me a Link to a Thread ?

Here's a Link to The Horses Mouth , Since you believe in the Bible Right ?

[link to biblehub.com]
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Do you say the words of Christ are True or False?
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Sorry but I see in color not black or white
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Do you say the words of Christ are True or False?
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You give me a Link to a Thread ?

Here's a Link to The Horses Mouth , Since you believe in the Bible Right ?

[link to biblehub.com]
 Quoting: FOY


Do you say the words of Christ are True or False?
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Sorry but I see in color not black or white
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Do you say the words of Christ are True or False?
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Your lumping alot of words All of them into one . And how do I know he even said them ... I dont
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Jesus says


But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.

Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?

He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.


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But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.

Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?

He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.



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I will convict him of sin . I'm not buying Matthews cover up for WHY SOMEONE WOULD GET BAPTIZED BY JOHN WHO BAPTIZED FOR THE REMISSION OF WHAT ???? SIN
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But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.

Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?

He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.



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And the only one he claimed to be was the anointed one of YHWH.
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jeopardy sure does communicate like jesus... "why dont you believe in me? its because you are not my father, if you were you would have believed (not believe = not of the father =) of your father the devil.

I actually had enough of him on my thread and for the first time ever I banned someone from posting
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I'm not confounding anything because you haven't even set forth anything. So why not skip this vague non-replies and actually reply to the questions I asked?
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Ok, then we agree, you're not confounding the two, and I'm not confounding the two - mystery schools is not the same as the mystical experience. And mystical traditions aren't exactly exempt from dogma either. I'll elaborate when my energy levels are charged.
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Ok, but I never once mentioned mystery schools, which I know nothing of. I did say mystical schools or mystical traditions, and that is not the same thing, and they are not based on dogma in the way the exoteric traditions. Even if there are dogmatic elements in this tradition or that, those elements are minor and would never be used as the final arbiter in the way folks point to scripture and say this is the way it is because it says so right here in the book.
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My bad, I meant mystical school/tradition. Since mystics are so wise and flexible and dem religious folks are so dogmatic and narrow-minded, maybe you can ask a s
Sufi master if he's willing to compromise a tad on the tawhid, or maybe you'll find a true Kabbalist that's willing to discard a couple of thoose pesky, dogmatic mitzvot.

What I'm getting at is, there's an exoteric level and an esoteric level to most mystical traditions - to conquer the exoteric world is not to discard the esoteric. You might even say that one precedes the other. And it doesn't mean it's free from dogma, syncretism and religiousity either.

I don't fetichize or romanticize mysticism or esotericism like pick-and-choose New-Ageism does, or like those self-professed GLP Gnostics that claim to share the Gnostic hate of Abrahamic religion, but don't practise any of their rigorous asceticism.
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Ah, now this is more like it, mono. Working from bottom up, I'm with ya as far as the new-age wank. I have no time for it because it always seems to dilute the wine and turn it into the vinegar of self-aggrandizement. Likewise with the gnostic stuff. The fact is we just don't know enough about their teachings since so much was destroyed. So they are kinda like wiccans, reconstructing what they think might have been the core and adding this and that to suit their taste.

I think all the traditions are syncretic to some extent. How could they not be? I would also agree that the lower levels would be prone to this or that dogma or religiosity, but the upper echelons realize that all this must eventually be discarded until nothing is left but the One. There are some advaita scriptures that are a punch in the face on this point, where they just burn the whole edifice down, even though it was built to get them to the point where they could do so. To the untutored eye, it seems like they are pissing all over their own sacred traditions and being wholly contradictory, but it's more a case where the ceiling of one level becomes the floor for the next. That's what I mean when I say that scriptural authority is not the destination, but the jumping off place.

Not sure I understand what you mean by the sufi compromising on tawhid. Why would he have to? But in his steadfastness to the One, he would also be able to appreciate that there are other paths to that One and not get caught up in the blatherings that infest the exoteric exclusivity claims. I don't know if you saw it, but I was talking about this great little vid that I saw of a sufi, a kabbalist and a christian mystic, three traditions where the exoteric wings are busy damning each other, and these three were just in radiant agreement about the goal, which as ever, is the One.

Which brings me back to my exclusivity point that started this. I get that you are locked into Yahweh as the One. But what of the yogi master who makes all the same claims for Krishna, or Shiva as the Absolute? They would see your claim as a different yet valid expression of that One which was beyond name and form, but would you be willing to grant them the same unity in goal underneath the diversity of expression?
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Ok, then we agree, you're not confounding the two, and I'm not confounding the two - mystery schools is not the same as the mystical experience. And mystical traditions aren't exactly exempt from dogma either. I'll elaborate when my energy levels are charged.
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Ok, but I never once mentioned mystery schools, which I know nothing of. I did say mystical schools or mystical traditions, and that is not the same thing, and they are not based on dogma in the way the exoteric traditions. Even if there are dogmatic elements in this tradition or that, those elements are minor and would never be used as the final arbiter in the way folks point to scripture and say this is the way it is because it says so right here in the book.
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My bad, I meant mystical school/tradition. Since mystics are so wise and flexible and dem religious folks are so dogmatic and narrow-minded, maybe you can ask a s
Sufi master if he's willing to compromise a tad on the tawhid, or maybe you'll find a true Kabbalist that's willing to discard a couple of thoose pesky, dogmatic mitzvot.

What I'm getting at is, there's an exoteric level and an esoteric level to most mystical traditions - to conquer the exoteric world is not to discard the esoteric. You might even say that one precedes the other. And it doesn't mean it's free from dogma, syncretism and religiousity either.

I don't fetichize or romanticize mysticism or esotericism like pick-and-choose New-Ageism does, or like those self-professed GLP Gnostics that claim to share the Gnostic hate of Abrahamic religion, but don't practise any of their rigorous asceticism.
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Ah, now this is more like it, mono. Working from bottom up, I'm with ya as far as the new-age wank. I have no time for it because it always seems to dilute the wine and turn it into the vinegar of self-aggrandizement. Likewise with the gnostic stuff. The fact is we just don't know enough about their teachings since so much was destroyed. So they are kinda like wiccans, reconstructing what they think might have been the core and adding this and that to suit their taste.

I think all the traditions are syncretic to some extent. How could they not be? I would also agree that the lower levels would be prone to this or that dogma or religiosity, but the upper echelons realize that all this must eventually be discarded until nothing is left but the One. There are some advaita scriptures that are a punch in the face on this point, where they just burn the whole edifice down, even though it was built to get them to the point where they could do so. To the untutored eye, it seems like they are pissing all over their own sacred traditions and being wholly contradictory, but it's more a case where the ceiling of one level becomes the floor for the next. That's what I mean when I say that scriptural authority is not the destination, but the jumping off place.

Not sure I understand what you mean by the sufi compromising on tawhid. Why would he have to? But in his steadfastness to the One, he would also be able to appreciate that there are other paths to that One and not get caught up in the blatherings that infest the exoteric exclusivity claims. I don't know if you saw it, but I was talking about this great little vid that I saw of a sufi, a kabbalist and a christian mystic, three traditions where the exoteric wings are busy damning each other, and these three were just in radiant agreement about the goal, which as ever, is the One.

Which brings me back to my exclusivity point that started this. I get that you are locked into Yahweh as the One. But what of the yogi master who makes all the same claims for Krishna, or Shiva as the Absolute? They would see your claim as a different yet valid expression of that One which was beyond name and form, but would you be willing to grant them the same unity in goal underneath the diversity of expression?
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My point with the Sufi was that a true mystic is as uncompromising with their faith as the exoteric religious person is. It seemed you were entertaining a false dichotomy in where that was not the case.

Maybe it's not too likely in this day and age, but - forgive the bombastics - if I had to choose between being executed in the most gruesome manner imaginable, or recant my beliefs, I would have to choose death in a heart-beat. Death would become my duty. No, this is not me romanticizing martyrdom or a hypothetical scenario of my heroic zeal - I'm making a whole nother point. My point is that this, this subject, is of importance. Souls are being held captive, and I'm trying to set them free. This is not a joke to me. And even if I didn't have a purpose, truth in itself is self-sustaining, it doesn't need to be motivated.

Like I alluded to, experience is the basis of my faith. I didn't just pick up one book and go "gee, that's a neat little story". I didn't "lock" into anything. Do you trust that what your eyes see is accurate? Do you trust your ears to hear? Do you trust you senses to to properly register your surroundings? Why? Because those are the tools at your disposals. What else is there to trust? That's what I'm doing, I'm trusting the tools at my disposal, because I have no other choice. But I also can't pluck out my eyes and lend you them so you so that you can experience and see what I have experienced and seen. There no other answer I can give you.

What I am today is something I used to mock. Convenience wasn't a factor. And I'm still very much journeying. And I'm not alone having experience/dreams/visions as the foundation or as aspects of faith (something I used to mock too); on GLP alone, there's FOY, Elegant Walnut, WishinForTheMission that I know of, an probably many more. (And no, this is not me being defensive.)

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I'm well beyond doubt at this point. (Which doesn't mean I got all things figured out.)

May God guide and bless you.

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Be gone from here, SATAN!

THIS YOU ARE COMMANDED BY THE POWER AND THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, JESUS CHRIST!
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THIS YOU ARE COMMANDED BY THE POWER AND THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, JESUS CHRIST!

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THIS YOU ARE COMMANDED BY THE POWER AND THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, JESUS CHRIST!

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THIS YOU ARE COMMANDED BY THE POWER AND THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, JESUS CHRIST!

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