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Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?

 
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Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
Any idea if this could work. Older friend with a replaced knee joint from 20 years ago is not able to control the infection and swelling, even on IV antibiotics. Knee was opened up and some of the infection was removed last month but infection continues even with the current IV antibiotics. Neither my friend or I have had any experience with colloidal silver.
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sounds like a shit or bust move and this probably isn't the best place to ask
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
My doc has done it a couple of times for my gout in my knee and ankle. Seemed to make a positive difference.

He mixed the "nano silver" with ozone and some vitamins.

But yeah, talk to your doc.
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
sounds like a shit or bust move and this probably isn't the best place to ask
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Or it may possibly be a very good place to ask. My friend may lose his leg or life over this infection. He has been to an infection specialist who prescribed the antibiotics that are not working.
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
buy manuka honey, have friend eat several spoonfuls daily and apply the honey onto the infected area

your friend has MSRA inside their knee
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
intravenous antibiotics will only help if it is the right antibiotic

most are only partially effective against MRSA and start becoming useless as you take them
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
chop off infected leg then dip ur stub into burning coal
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All specialists, doctors, and hospitals will DENY the MRSA and prescribe ineffective treatments to keep you away because your friend got the MRSA from wherever they did his surgery.
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
Your friend should change his PH a bit too, take shots of apple cider vinegar, and sip water with tiny bit of baking soda added

not at the same time LOL
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
Whatever your friend does, he should not eat carbohydrates, hardly at all

no bread, pasta, sugar, even milk or fruit

manuka honey should be only sugar source

otherwise eat only fat

a little protein

this will starve the bacteria out
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
Coconut oil will directly dissolve bacterial cell walls so eat plenty and rub it on skin, and it's safe to get spray-on coconut oil to apply to painful open wounds
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
when an implant gets infected it develops biofilm of bacteria on it

i dont think there is any remedy but to have the implant replaced ... maybe they could take the implant out , sterilize it , and reimplant

you would think that should be possible altho i havent heard of it

if you inject colloidal silver you may make it impossible to place a sterile implant
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I just caught a hard ban giving you advice

must have hit a nerve

tread cautiously my friends, people will kill to keep this problem secret
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
Now I have to see these ads! GRRRRRRR

Seriously though, OP, I have lived around many people all dealing with this from a young man who brought it back from the hospital after a bad motorcycle accident
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
Any idea if this could work. Older friend with a replaced knee joint from 20 years ago is not able to control the infection and swelling, even on IV antibiotics. Knee was opened up and some of the infection was removed last month but infection continues even with the current IV antibiotics. Neither my friend or I have had any experience with colloidal silver.
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NO DONT DO IT ITS VERY DANGEROUS
THIS IS SOME GUY FROM THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES
A TROLL
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DO IT AND DIE
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Ask Dr. Astro.
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
That's why I got baned? hahahhaa

yea anyone stupid enough to inject colloidial anything into themselves should die

sorry I have almost no mercy left in me
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
I have used american biotec labs silver sol under the skin. It did burn but it did also kill the bacteria.

Problem is swelling because you may be fine injecting it in there but it may need to drain.

I believe the best way free from pain and possible complication is to buy a cheap nebulizer (mist maker) off the web and use sovereign silver or american biotech labs silver .

You inhale the mist into your lungs and you can get high concentrations of silver in your blood stream this way.

I did this when i had a cat bite that was infected and just sat around all day inhaling silver for a couple days until the swelling went down and the fever went away
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
That's why I got baned? hahahhaa

yea anyone stupid enough to inject colloidial anything into themselves should die

sorry I have almost no mercy left in me
 Quoting: Heather like a Feather 72269999


Injecting silver into would not kill you.

Silver kills virus, bacteria, and fungus by stopping their respiration process but does not harm normal human cells.

It is a sterile solution and does not pose danger.

Silver sol (unique form ionic solution) is Fda and epa approved

Like i said i recommend nebulizing it to get a high blood concentration.

I injected silver under my skin through a cat bite hole in the hand and it killed the bacteria in my hand instead of the bacteria growing in there and killing my hand!

I also use it on pets this way when the get abcess, i drain the abcess and inject silver sol under the skin to kill the infection locally.

It works and it is not dangerous, but i would not inject it into a joint or deep muscle tissure, but under the top layer of skin is different
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Does DMSO help transfer colloidal silver into the body?

Does anyone know?
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Does DMSO help transfer colloidal silver into the body?

Does anyone know?
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The answer is yes!

Health Benefits DMSO: Dimethyl Sulfoxide

DMSO enhances the bioavailability and effectiveness of many Anti-Viral Pharmaceutical Drugs (DMSO facilitates their transport directly across Cell Membranes into Cells where they are most potent against Viruses).

DMSO facilitates the absorption of Penicillins - i.e. Penicillins can be dissolved in DMSO and applied topically where they are efficiently transported across the Skin.

Orally:

Orally ingested DMSO is also rapidly absorbed and reaches a blood serum peak in 4 hours and becomes undetectable after 120 hours.

The liquid form of DMSO is the most effective form of topical DMSO application, although most people prefer the gel form.


Topically applied DMSO is not rubbed onto the Skin but painted or patted on with a thin coating.


The concentration of DMSO used in topical treatments should ideally be individualized on a cases by case basis - the optimal concentration varies from 50-80% DMSO.

The usual oral dosage of DMSO is 1 - 2 teaspoons (5 - 10 ml) per day.
Oral DMSO is normally mixed with Tomato juice or Grape juice to mask its "foul" taste.

Up to 20 cc DMSO that has been diluted to a 25% concentration with sterile water is often administered via intravenous injection by suitably trained physicians for the treatment of the more serious degenerative diseases.

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Silver on implant surfaces found effective at preventing infection

[link to bonesmart.org]

"In the series, about 73% of patients with the silver-coated implants had success with DAIR compared with 25% of patients with the regular implants."

"British Orthopaedic Association Annual meeting that Stanmore Implants and Implantcasts, two manufacturers he is aware of, modify the surface of titanium orthopaedic implants by adding a thin layer of silver. About <1.0 mg silver also collects in reservoirs or pits that are specially created on the surface of the prostheses and it is then released over time to fight infection, he said."

Reference:
Jeys LM. The infected endoprosthetic replacement. Presented at: British Orthopaedic Association Congress. Oct.1-4, 2013. Birmingham, England.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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That's why I got baned? hahahhaa

yea anyone stupid enough to inject colloidial anything into themselves should die

sorry I have almost no mercy left in me
 Quoting: Heather like a Feather 72269999


Injecting silver into would not kill you.

Silver kills virus, bacteria, and fungus by stopping their respiration process but does not harm normal human cells.

It is a sterile solution and does not pose danger.

Silver sol (unique form ionic solution) is Fda and epa approved

Like i said i recommend nebulizing it to get a high blood concentration.

I injected silver under my skin through a cat bite hole in the hand and it killed the bacteria in my hand instead of the bacteria growing in there and killing my hand!

I also use it on pets this way when the get abcess, i drain the abcess and inject silver sol under the skin to kill the infection locally.

It works and it is not dangerous, but i would not inject it into a joint or deep muscle tissure, but under the top layer of skin is different
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45642195


you make a grip of sense

if someone is careful and thinks like you then by all means, use silver to kill bacteria
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Metallic Nanoparticles from Spontaneous Reduction of Silver(I) in DMSO. Interaction between Nitric Oxide and Silver Nanoparticles

[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

"Colloidal silver is not stable in DMSO without stabilizing agents"
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Synthesis of silver nanoparticles in DMSO solutions of starch: a comparative investigation of native and soluble starches

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Abstract
Silver nanoparticles (AgNPs) were synthesized in solutions of native and soluble starches in DMSO for the first time. The starches acted as reducing and stabilizing agents simultaneously. The kinetics of the process and its activation energy were determined by using UV-vis spectroscopy. The DMSO solution of soluble starch was characterized by better reductive activity than the native starch solution.


So if you want to apply silver gel to your skin and dmso i believe it will not under go chemical reaction.

If it did, it would not hurt you but silver and dmso without the starch stabilizer will react and create a little heat and result in some large silver molecules.

Ive read that some people mix ionic silver and dmso and allow the solution to stabilize before application
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Metallic Nanoparticles from Spontaneous Reduction of Silver(I) in DMSO. Interaction between Nitric Oxide and Silver Nanoparticles

[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

"Colloidal silver is not stable in DMSO without stabilizing agents"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45642195


Interesting. And that article is talking about NANO silver, not the same as colloidal silver.

thanks
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hey OP are you still here? i have the answer for your friend.
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All specialists, doctors, and hospitals will DENY the MRSA and prescribe ineffective treatments to keep you away because your friend got the MRSA from wherever they did his surgery.
 Quoting: Heather like a Feather


bingo, and therefore liable. Not only that, they have to report it as an incidence that goes on their record.
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Metallic Nanoparticles from Spontaneous Reduction of Silver(I) in DMSO. Interaction between Nitric Oxide and Silver Nanoparticles

[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

"Colloidal silver is not stable in DMSO without stabilizing agents"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45642195


Interesting. And that article is talking about NANO silver, not the same as colloidal silver.

thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73103579


That is true, but colloidial silver is made as an extra step after ionic silver solution is made. It is only done so it will pass through the stomach acid and is the least effective way to get silver in the system due to its larger particle size.

Colloidial silver is made by heating ionic silver until it turns amber in color which is due to the smaller particles conglomerating into larger particles.

The most effective way to get silver in your blood stream to fight infections located anywhere in your body is through nebulizing the silver sol (nano silver) which is breathing it in using a nebulizer (made for inhaling liquid medicines)

The smaller the particle size the more effective it is due to your target of neutralizing bacteria or virus.

Silver Sol is nano silver suspended indefinitely with water or in a gel. It was patented and is FDA & EPA approved.

American biotech labs "Silver biotics" or "Sovereign Silver" are both true "silver sol" (nano silver permanently suspended in water)

You can topically use ionic silver or silver sol gel to get results on the surface of your skin but it will not absorb in to the joints without the dmso.


Here is a few silver sol gels

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
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Re: Inject colloidal silver or ? into infected knee (replacement) that iv antibiotics doesn't help ?
This is a cheap and high quality system (35$)

I nebulize silver sol at home and it is very effective at stopping any infection. I use Silver biotics or Sovereign Silver

Respironics InnoSpire Essence Compressor Nebulizer System

"Essence is part of the InnoSpire family of compressor nebulizer systems from Philips Respironics and provides fast and efficient aerosol drug delivery in a compressor nebulizer system thatís priced right. Combined with proven SideStream technology, Essence is compact, lightweight, and economical. Its stylish design blends gracefully into the home environment."- 5-year warranty


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