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The Myth of Overpopulation

 
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Earth is full.

Not to worry though.
Mother Earth always sorts these things out one way or another.

War, famine, disease are usually top billings.


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This may seem viable but as many point out, it's not - plus, one acre of land is NOT enough for a single person. In order to feed one, you need five or six acres - PER PERSON.

Then keep crops rotated properly, and keep in mind the actually usable land is far less then the amount of acreage available. Finally, at least half of those four acres you grant to a family goes to living. Give everyone a house with a minimal three bedrooms, three bathrooms, and that's going to be fairly large.
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This has to be the most inane and unintelligent post on this website.

If you don't think overpopulation is a problem you obviously aren't paying attention. Just look at all the migration and results from that and maybe you'll understand the ramifications of continuing to jam more and more humans on this planet. It's not a matter of having space to spread out your shit, it's a matter of people wanting to live in the better areas and the impact of the continuing spread of human life and loss of all others.

No worries, all overpopulation scenarios end the same way with massive deaths and a population crash. Thankfully this will occur for humans as well, most likely within the next 100 years.

Definitely one star for this piece of shit thread.
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just look what damage 7 billion people have done to this world. Seas are full of plastic, rivers are polluted, acid rain, every year between 10,000 and 100,000 species are becoming extinct each year ( [link to wwf.panda.org] forests are disappearing everywhere and even space has become dangerous since its full of our junk.

And you are saying we are not overpopulated???

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^^^^THIS!!!!^^^^^^ Fucking retards, WAKE UP!!!!
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Hahaha! I love it. You are so conditioned by your own self hate (probably because you're a loser cunt) that you cannot see that all of these little complaints you have are superficial and weak. The earth doesn't give a fuck about all this shit you're whining about.

The one with the problem...is usually the one complaining.
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exactly! all the trash we made came from??! guess what? the earth!

and how big are we compared to the rest of the world?! even alone its crust?! NOTHING. fucking microbes.
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People who believe in Overpopulation are JUST LIKE the Elite.

They want less people, so there's more for them, period.

It's allocation of resources, not scarcity. They invent scarcity to control prices. It's a con.

Overpopulation, LOL. We have a Central Bank Overpopulation, and nothing more.
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Most of the people here or elsewhere that believe overpopulation is real are of "I cannot find a taxi in midtown/ am in a traffic-jam every day/ can't find a seat in the bus most mornings, so earth is too full!" quality.
It saddens me.
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Most of the people here or elsewhere that believe overpopulation is real are of "I cannot find a taxi in midtown/ am in a traffic-jam every day/ can't find a seat in the bus most mornings, so earth is too full!" quality.
It saddens me.
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They need a flight across the states. So much unused open land. It's like we aren't even here in some places.
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That is true even here but most people don't look up from their i-phones long enough to see it anyways.

No wonder they think they'd be fucked if their neighbor had 2 more children, they already have to wait longer then 15 minutes for their McBreakfast! That is proof there wouldn't be enough food!

Retards.
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You can get an acre in south Dakota for like $.06
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People who believe in Overpopulation are JUST LIKE the Elite.

They want less people, so there's more for them, period.

It's allocation of resources, not scarcity. They invent scarcity to control prices. It's a con.

Overpopulation, LOL. We have a Central Bank Overpopulation, and nothing more.
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if scarcity is invented... why would they need to get rid of other people so they can have more? youd think more people would equal more things to have?
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Well, it's a paradoxical situation for sure. When we got assholes talking about terrafirming Mars or other planets when they can't even terrafirm Siberia then there is the issue of that wasted space and poor use of resources and energy.

On the other hand, scientists do agree that overpopulation is an issue. It is the reason why the evolution of viruses, bacteria and parasites are on the rise. The earth is a living organism that views the overpopulation of humans as a disease upon it. The rise of infectious microorganisms is it's way of cleansing itself by culling it's people parasite. A good analogy heard at a convention.
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Let's analyze this some more; These NWO worshipers (liberals) are worried about people having firearms because they're "dangerous". Yet they hate humanity and what it does to the earth and think we are overpopulated. Likewise they will actually murder a baby in the womb. But they want your guns taken away because you might hurt another human.

Is it me...or are these cunts confused? This confusion speaks volumes in regards to their intellectually capacity.
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Not only confused, but brainwashed and backwards.
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Let's analyze this some more; These NWO worshipers (liberals) are worried about people having firearms because they're "dangerous". Yet they hate humanity and what it does to the earth and think we are overpopulated. Likewise they will actually murder a baby in the womb. But they want your guns taken away because you might hurt another human.

Is it me...or are these cunts confused? This confusion speaks volumes in regards to their intellectually capacity.
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I'm not sure it's exactly a "liberal" thing. I'm quite conservative and think the current population growth rate is unsustainable for longer periods.

Many billions on this planet are poor and not happy, they don't have basic needs like clean water and normal food. It's easy for religious nutjobs to turn such people into a terrorists, do we really need that? I think we should start serious thinking about how to get the fck out of this planet because it won't last forever.

I mean if we really want to survive as a human race in this universe.
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People who believe in Overpopulation are JUST LIKE the Elite.

They want less people, so there's more for them, period.

It's allocation of resources, not scarcity. They invent scarcity to control prices. It's a con.

Overpopulation, LOL. We have a Central Bank Overpopulation, and nothing more.
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if scarcity is invented... why would they need to get rid of other people so they can have more? youd think more people would equal more things to have?
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Because they are actually Evil Psychopaths who want the whole world barren of people for them to rule over. They don't think like most people, they have no ability to do anything but be selfish evil fucks.

Look up "Dumping food into the ocean" and you will find them in action. It is a game, and the goal is death for most humans, and enslavement for the "lucky" few.

They're nuts. They're Evil. They want most (99.99999999) percent of the world dead.

Any more questions?
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When people talk of overpopulation what they mean is:
A) Feed all these people on the shrinking amount of global arable land available due to climate change

B) The ability to actually have all these people have jobs that aren't basically wage slave labour.

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I'll give you just the "we can't employ everyone", whitch equates to: most are unnecessary, even toxic to the wellbeing of the specie
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The Myth of Overpopulation

One of the most quoted reasons for birth control in general – abortion and euthanasia specifically – is that the world is overpopulated. As evidence for this position, some use the fact that there is widespread hunger and poverty across the face of the globe. Many claim that this is primarily because there are too many human beings currently alive and being born.

While it is indisputable that these tragedies occur, it is easy to prove that the problem is not too many people!

Let’s take the world population as it is in 1999, and say that it’s about 6 billion people:

6,000,000,000 people

Now let’s take the lower 48 states of the United States of America, which has a total land area of 2,914,652 square miles. At 640 acres per square mile, this amounts to:

1,865,377,280 acres

If we divided the population into “families” of four, that would be 1,500,000,000 “families”:

1,500,000,000 families

If we took each “family”and gave them each a whole acre of land on which to raise food and their families, you can see that the United States could easily hold all of the people in the world with room to spare! In fact, there would be enough room left for about another 1,500,000,000 people.

The 365,377,280 acres left over in the US amounts to 570,902 square miles, which means that you would have open area more than twice the size of Texas left after putting everybody in the world in the lower 48 states of America.

To put it more graphically, you could fit all of the people in the world in the United States and still leave the states of:

Oregon (97,132 sq mi)
New York (53,989 sq mi)
Colorado (104,100 sq mi)
Minnesota (86,943 sq mi)
Florida (59,928 sq mi)
Missouri (69,709 sq mi)
Wyoming (97,818 sq mi)
Rhode Island (1,231 sq mi)

totally free of people! Here’s what that would look like ( the states filled with gray would be “empty”):

This would also leave the rest of the planet free of people, and available for growing food, recreation, or any other use that we might find. It should be obvious that the problem is not too many people.

Nobody is seriously contemplating moving all of these people, of course, but these simple calculations should prove beyond argument that the world does NOT suffer from overpopulation in any sense of the word.

If the world is not overpopulated, what seems to be the problem?

Well, if you take a look at the problem honestly, it’s almost purely one of the human heart. To many, human beings are regarded as interlopers – a parasitical species which has invaded “Mother Earth” and should be regulated or eradicated because of the damage we do here. This point of view is rooted in the belief that we are merely animals, and are therefore of no more intrinsic worth than a flea or an oyster. This point of view also allows people to act for their own benefit – no matter what the results are for others.

However, this point of view, by itself, can do very little harm. It is when this point of view is married to political power that it becomes truly dangerous to humanity. Many point to religion as the largest killer of innocent human life in history. To the contrary, it is government which is the largest enemy of innocent life. Let’s take the 20th century as an example:

Over 37,000,000 soldiers died in the various wars fought in this century prior to 1997. Wars are almost purely political in nature.

Hitler, of course, killed over 12,000,000 innocent human beings, at least half of these being Jewish..

In Soviet Russia, over 40,000,000 people were killed by their government.

In Communist China, over 35,000,000 people were killed during and after the revolution. Today forced abortion and other travesties kill millions of others every year.

In Ethiopia, most of the much publicized hunger and starvation was the result of government policy – over 1,000,000 people were starved to death on purpose by their government.
Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge killed over 1,000,000 people in Cambodia.

In Rwanda, at least 800,000 people were massacred in a mere 100 days. This slaughter was nurtured and aided by the government.

In the modern day Balkans, 200,000 Bosnians were killed by Serb forces, and as this is written, we are witnessing still more genocide in Kosovo, where thousands more are being killed by government troops. While some of this carnage could be called religious in nature, it is clear that the ones doing the killing do not subscribe to genuine religious beliefs, but are working out ideological aims.

In Sierra Leone; in the Sudan; it is evident that in the 20th century overpopulation isn’t what kills people: Governments kill people. They have killed over 100,000,000 people in this century alone.

The next time tells you that the world is overpopulated, please educate them. It is only by stripping the humanists of their myths that we can hope to point them towards the truth.
Credit needs to be given to D. James Kennedy, from whom I first heard a similar example, but using Australia instead of the United States.
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Please cite the source you copied this from, I'd like to look at the map they are talking about.
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I don't draw any conclusions from this but he's right. My job takes me to vast areas with no cell service, no people and endless fertile land that would be great for farming. Most that think this world is overpopulated live in cities. There is no scarcity, no shortage of good land. This planet has more resources than anyone can imagine. Crybaby environmentalist are unwittingly supporting a control mechanism the elite use.
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Over 70% of the surface area in the USA is either desert, swamp, mountain, river, or lake. Which one do you want to live in OP?

GOOD land is at a premium and we're bleeding the planet dry. It's estimated that world agricultural production is about to peak or already has. In the turd world, farming practices are turning farmland into desert. There's little jungle left to strip to create more farmland.
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PS it would take FIVE earths to provide the resources to bring everyone up to the US standard of living.

EVERY person you add INCREASES the poverty. Unless your idea of utopia is 30 billion people living in tin shacks eating 3 cups of rice a day.
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Over 70% of the surface area in the USA is either desert, swamp, mountain, river, or lake. Which one do you want to live in OP?

GOOD land is at a premium and we're bleeding the planet dry. It's estimated that world agricultural production is about to peak or already has. In the turd world, farming practices are turning farmland into desert. There's little jungle left to strip to create more farmland.
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Again, depletion of (farm)land or peek agricultural production is not an overpopulation issue, it's a mismanagement problem.
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The REAL problem is decent people are having 1 kid for every 3 kids the ignorant turd world type pop out.
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Over 70% of the surface area in the USA is either desert, swamp, mountain, river, or lake. Which one do you want to live in OP?

GOOD land is at a premium and we're bleeding the planet dry. It's estimated that world agricultural production is about to peak or already has. In the turd world, farming practices are turning farmland into desert. There's little jungle left to strip to create more farmland.
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Again, depletion of (farm)land or peek agricultural production is not an overpopulation issue, it's a mismanagement problem.
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Not entirely true; yields have increased worldwide for decades. Besides, do you see turd worlders getting smarter any time soon? I know someone who worked in central Africa helping villagers drill wells. They quickly were shitting and pissing in the common village well. You just can't fix stupid.
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I don't draw any conclusions from this but he's right. My job takes me to vast areas with no cell service, no people and endless fertile land that would be great for farming. Most that think this world is overpopulated live in cities. There is no scarcity, no shortage of good land. This planet has more resources than anyone can imagine. Crybaby environmentalist are unwittingly supporting a control mechanism the elite use.
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I've been to 40 states and 5 continents. Where is all this "endless fertile land" that isn't being used. Bullshit.
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You can get an acre in south Dakota for like $.06
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A square acre is only 200 feet by 200 feet.
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Over 70% of the surface area in the USA is either desert, swamp, mountain, river, or lake. Which one do you want to live in OP?

GOOD land is at a premium and we're bleeding the planet dry. It's estimated that world agricultural production is about to peak or already has. In the turd world, farming practices are turning farmland into desert. There's little jungle left to strip to create more farmland.
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Again, depletion of (farm)land or peek agricultural production is not an overpopulation issue, it's a mismanagement problem.
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Not entirely true; yields have increased worldwide for decades. Besides, do you see turd worlders getting smarter any time soon? I know someone who worked in central Africa helping villagers drill wells. They quickly were shitting and pissing in the common village well. You just can't fix stupid.
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Yield increase has nothing to do with my counter-argument to you saying we are soon to be at peek agricultural production.

Stupidity and low iq again, has nothing to do with overpopulation, it's an education/morals/standards problem, and being kept as it is because the more stupid people there are, the more people will buy the kind of bullshit that is the overpopulation theory.
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PS it would take FIVE earths to provide the resources to bring everyone up to the US standard of living.

EVERY person you add INCREASES the poverty. Unless your idea of utopia is 30 billion people living in tin shacks eating 3 cups of rice a day.
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This type of thinking is what's wrong with society. There is no scarcity just mismanagment of resources. It's a crooked ass elite wanting control is the problem.

I don't know what you think US standard of living is, but my guess is that you've been lied to.
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I don't draw any conclusions from this but he's right. My job takes me to vast areas with no cell service, no people and endless fertile land that would be great for farming. Most that think this world is overpopulated live in cities. There is no scarcity, no shortage of good land. This planet has more resources than anyone can imagine. Crybaby environmentalist are unwittingly supporting a control mechanism the elite use.
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I've been to 40 states and 5 continents. Where is all this "endless fertile land" that isn't being used. Bullshit.
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My guess is that you travel around in large populated areas or either with your head up your ass.
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I don't draw any conclusions from this but he's right. My job takes me to vast areas with no cell service, no people and endless fertile land that would be great for farming. Most that think this world is overpopulated live in cities. There is no scarcity, no shortage of good land. This planet has more resources than anyone can imagine. Crybaby environmentalist are unwittingly supporting a control mechanism the elite use.
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I've been to 40 states and 5 continents. Where is all this "endless fertile land" that isn't being used. Bullshit.
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My guess is that you travel around in large populated areas or either with your head up your ass.
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Like your other "ass"umptions, you'd be wrong. I am a backpacker and go to rural and remote areas for the most part. I was in the Peace Corps and lived in Africa for almost 3 years. How much have YOU seen?
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Let's analyze this some more; These NWO worshipers (liberals) are worried about people having firearms because they're "dangerous". Yet they hate humanity and what it does to the earth and think we are overpopulated. Likewise they will actually murder a baby in the womb. But they want your guns taken away because you might hurt another human.

Is it me...or are these cunts confused? This confusion speaks volumes in regards to their intellectually capacity.
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"Pro-life" = only for human beings and only in the womb. All other life such as plants, animals and human beings who don't share the limited view of "prolife" can drop dead and go to hell.

Why don't people wake up and look at the reasons women get abortions and try to stop the reasons and not the act. I'll tell you why because if they do it like that it will expose some aweful things about our evil society.
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PS it would take FIVE earths to provide the resources to bring everyone up to the US standard of living.

EVERY person you add INCREASES the poverty. Unless your idea of utopia is 30 billion people living in tin shacks eating 3 cups of rice a day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70821400


This type of thinking is what's wrong with society. There is no scarcity just mismanagment of resources. It's a crooked ass elite wanting control is the problem.

I don't know what you think US standard of living is, but my guess is that you've been lied to.
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Everything would work fine if everyone were a minimalist.
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Over 70% of the surface area in the USA is either desert, swamp, mountain, river, or lake. Which one do you want to live in OP?

GOOD land is at a premium and we're bleeding the planet dry. It's estimated that world agricultural production is about to peak or already has. In the turd world, farming practices are turning farmland into desert. There's little jungle left to strip to create more farmland.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71676709


Again, depletion of (farm)land or peek agricultural production is not an overpopulation issue, it's a mismanagement problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72926920


Not entirely true; yields have increased worldwide for decades. Besides, do you see turd worlders getting smarter any time soon? I know someone who worked in central Africa helping villagers drill wells. They quickly were shitting and pissing in the common village well. You just can't fix stupid.
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Yield increase has nothing to do with my counter-argument to you saying we are soon to be at peek agricultural production.

Stupidity and low iq again, has nothing to do with overpopulation, it's an education/morals/standards problem, and being kept as it is because the more stupid people there are, the more people will buy the kind of bullshit that is the overpopulation theory.
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"peek" production? I "peeked" at your IQ test and saw you scored an 87.

Typical Dane, not too bright.





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