people who seek to criminalize / illegalize abortion do not believe in G-d

who is "they?"

who is "the cattle?"

THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN 50 MILLION SINCE ROE V WADE.

PRIOR THE NUMBER WAS ESTIMATED AT APPROXIMATELY 200k ANNUALLY THOUGH THAT'S A NUMBER PRO ABORTION PEOPLE USE, SO ITS LIKELY LOWER.

QUITE AN UPTICK FROM GOD'S ORIGINAL PLAN, WOULDN'T YOU SAY?

Excuse me?
I was talking to someone else

are you trying to assert you arent engaging in blood libel?

i bolded the blood libel snippets for you

Remember: Op is saying g-d, not GOD, and the religion that is known for doing that does differentiate the spelling.

G-d is like saying nothing.

The entire post is a deception.

Aborting an otherwise healthy fetus that is somewhat already developed and would be born without any issues... is murder fuckface. It's not a DEBATE about whether or not it's murder (it is). It's a debate about whether or not society is just okay with massacring thousands of defenseless infants a year. Abortions should be last resort and should not be taxpayer funded even a LITTLE.

That is not accurate. Abortion has been legal since 1973. And since then, in the U.S. it has always averaged more than 1.4 million per year. NOW GET THIS:

I have looked into the topic of abortion and spoken to abortion providers directly. They say that for tax purposes, they under report the number of abortions by about 40 percent. So the actual number of abortions per year in the U.S. since 1973 has been right around 2 million a year.

It is a LOT worse than people realize.

who says it's murder?

you?

based upon what criteria?

where does G-d say it is murder?

where in the bible is it stated abortion is murder?

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An "unwanted child", what a lofty determination. Who gets to decide that a child is "unwanted"? You, me , some council of the elders, the overlord AI Quantum Computer network, the Intergalactic Council, chicken entrail/tea leave readings...

Maybe we could apply this same concept to ALL people! Yes, we should all be assessed, probably annually, by some kind of civil proceeding, decided by a local magistrate or a jury of our peers, whether we are "wanted" or not. Anyone deemed "unwanted"could then be eliminated, with no waiting time or right of appeal, immediately, at the nearest available "medical facility". Sounds like a grand idea, got anymore?

No wait, you accused me of blood libel which is serious business, I understand it and respect it.
The practice of sacrificing children for the harvest predates Judaism by a long time.
But somehow you twisted that into anti-Semitism.
You're not an Israelite, it's glaringly obvious. And no, i'm not either

You just don't have the heart for it

where can you point me to G-d's original plan, because i would really live to read it.

go tell the above to G-d and see what G-d says about me and what i said, then come back and post about it

make sure you tell G-d about your part in this:

[link to www.jta.org]

jta.org/1990/02/21/archive/big-rise-in-canadian-anti-semitism​-credited-to-abortion-blood-libel

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Op, you do realize that the anemone in your avatar frame closely resembles the crystal entity of death in Star Trek Next Generation, right?

I bet you do.

lmao!
So god is going to punish me for disagreeing with and disproving his self proclaimed daughter?
Amazing

Screencap the comments b4 "she" edits them

it is a sea anemone.

a former client of mine had it as his desktop background, i asked him where he got it, he told me digitalblasphemy.com...i checked out the site, signed up, download some of the images and used it as my desktop background at home (this in 2005) to display on my dual monitors....anyway, when looking in the flower section here (glp provided avatars), i found it and use it from time to time.

if you have a personal problem with it i suggest you take it up with trinity.

where have i proclaimed anything?

"G-d is all-knowing (omniscient), so therefore G-d knows ahead of time which fetuses will develop into viable babies and live a life...a life G-d knows of before it even occurs"



you make it way too easy

apologetics in action:

[link to www.lifenews.com]

www.lifenews.com/2012/08/17/best-and-worst-biblical-arguments​-for-the-pro-life-view/

many people, chiefly i am reading christians also cite jeremiah 1:5 as a verse regarding "divine foreknowledge" vs. a statement regarding when soulled life begins

well, go tell that to the numerous others who view the verse the same as i do

"While the verse is often cherry picked by the Pro-Life movement as proof that life begins at conception, in context the verse is more than likely a statement about the doctrine of Divine Foreknowledge.

"Though even if we accept the assertion that "Life" begins at conception, we have to face the fact that God seems to be staunchly Pro-Choice." paul frick

"I know that Jeremiah 1:5 is often used by pro-life advocates to argue that life begins at conception, but one difficulty with using this particular verse to argue for any policy on abortion is that the clause "and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations" suggests that the verse only applies to Jeremiah himself, not to humanity as a whole. Unless somebody wants to argue that all humanity qualifies as ordained prophets, I don't see how this particular verse is applicable." jon pennington

"I would argue yes based on the belief that the spiritual world exists outside of space and time.

Before you are born God has seen your entire life because he exists beyond time. So even though conception is the definite starting point for your mortal life, you may have lived as an intention of God, part of his divine plan, albeit without any free will.

What I'm suggesting is that to truly answer this question one must be able to limit the definition of life to this earthly one, and of having free will, otherwise one must remove the earthly lens and include the possibility that life includes the yet-to-be-acted-upon intention of God since he is living, and since that intention is part of God, it has no beginning." james gilbert

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btw boys - i started formally studying the bible in small group in a christian bible church

this one: [link to www.restonbible.org (secure)]

I think it is shocking that you use God to justify this

im not

im saying G-d cannot be used to justify demonization of women who have had abortion or criminalizing / illegalizing abortion

you see there are even devout bible studying christians who agree, G-d is pro-choice, bc there is no sound logical biblical basis for any other view

Still nothing? Ok I will check back to see if you made additions

Unless as the Bulgarian póster said you are referring to some other entity and not the God of Jesús?

im not the one using bible verses to try and justify an anti-abortion stance

also, christians are positing that G-d is pro-choice and that jeremiah 1:5 cannot be used to justify anti-abortion ideology

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Plenty of miscarriages and stillbirth happening, and everything that happens is Gods will.. hence God is actively carrying out abortions, even late term ones.

[link to www.2knowmyself.com]