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What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...

 
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I thought the US was the greatest country on the planet?
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73284544


I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
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How about if you put all those premium bucks into staying super healthy?

(best food, best habits and nutrition, best methods to exercise for you)
stuff like that.

Lose the fear and "what if's". What if's ARE their main mode of propaganda and seeding those thoughts ya know.
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Insurance costs are rising for me by over 900%. No shit. 900+%. No alternative. Just bend over and take it like a champ!

Honestly, I hope Hitlary tries to steal this shit so we can get this fucking party started in earnest. I am sick and fucking tired of getting screwed over and jerked around by the pricks in charge while they hand my hard earned tax money to the lowest common denominator, all while importing even more low value dredges!

Fuck them and the jeweled chariot they rode in on!

You hear that you government pukes?! You are hated. You are loathed. You are despised! YOU ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM!

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 Quoting: PhobiaDHS




I call bullshit on this thread.

I agree that obamacare is a nightmare but 900%??

Gimme a break!

So you're saying your insurance is going up 9 times what it was before... per month? Say from $900/month to $8100/month?

College educated huh?

I think I'd ask for my tuition back... that'll help pay your 900% increase!

You're just like the flat earth tards ain't cha?

Shill much?

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 Quoting: deplorable scottfree


You don't have any of the actual numbers and you choose to call BS on me? Whatever. My current outbound for insurance WAS just over $110 if you exclude Dental and Vision. As those have remained the same, I am not including those in my calculations.

My employer takes very good care of us because they want to keep us. Now, they have hit the limit of what they can absorb in extra costs and we are having to start to pick up the slack.

In this case, the slack is about $960 for me and the family. My total monthly outbound will be just under $1,100/month when all is said and done if I am unable to find a cheaper alternative. That is before dental and vision.

Does that help clear things up a bit?
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS



Well....... I never would have guessed you were only paying 110/month for insurance..... instead of the already outrageous premiums the rest of us were/are paying.

You might have mentioned that in the OP. Not doing so was certainly misleading.

Sorry... for my being mislead by you!
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Obamacare is a scam, but I think the massive increase of insurance prices right before the election is also suspect.
Hillary said she plans to remove private insurance, so i think this are insurance companies bumping the prices to hit her voter base.

Not that i care for the psycho bitch, but isn't this price hike suspect to the rest of you?

As Canadian, I don't know much about US health insurance, so I'm asking you guys. doesn't this look suspect? is this just the government raising the price for the obamacare, or are the prices jumping across the board?
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It's a redistribution of wealth scheme. Everyone gets coverage those who can pay will have to pay for those that can't one way or another. Everything is covered preexisting conditions too.

It takes disposable income away from the middle class. It is an economic destroyer and it is the law.
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Not to get too crass, OP, but you're finally getting sick and tired of this Government BS? Wow. I thought you and everyone else would of been fed up with their BS the second they mentioned "Oh yeah! We got this new Affordable Healthcare Bill going through Congress now. It'll become a new Act or Law very soon. Enjoy!". I've been fed up with their BS since day one. It's better late than never though, OP. Welcome to the American Side of America, OP! thumbs
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Hah, I have been sick of it for a long time. This is just another step in a long line of steps towards completely losing my shit over it though.

In all of the past things the feds have done, they have been smaller and less significant to my normal day to day. By design I might add. They didn't affect my family because I was able to absorb the smaller hits. I created a buffer from the monetary aspects of life so they could concentrate on being happy and living a good, positive life while there was still something left to be positive about.

I am more pissed off this time because things have officially gotten to the point where I can no longer provide that buffer for my family. They are feeling it and I am having to explain that things are going to change for everyone in very big ways.

In short, the government and their shithole policies have stopped affecting just me and are now affecting my family as a unit.

When you fuck with my family, I get pissed on a whole new level. I am sure you can relate to that.
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Sad thing is, my company is busting their asses to try to take some of the heat off us too.

Even with all their help and them taking on a larger chunk of the costs, this is the result. Without them stepping up, it would be even higher.

How are we who actually work for a living expected to live? I want to know. It isn't like I am a low level earner. I am educated and have a great job. I still can't make ends meet without some serious corners being cut. Corners that are now affecting how my family lives.

This change in costing will quite literally put me right back into my 20's as far as earnings go.

Damned fools paradise we live in...
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Talk to the owners about becoming self-insured.

Depending on the premium per month x # of employees, deductibles, co-pays, and other factors, it's often MUCH cheaper for them to self-insure using a health plan like BCBS as the front-end (to access their network and pre-neogiated rates) and just paying BCBS a small monthly fee for handling the paperwork side of things.
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Insurance costs are rising for me by over 900%. No shit. 900+%. No alternative. Just bend over and take it like a champ!

Honestly, I hope Hitlary tries to steal this shit so we can get this fucking party started in earnest. I am sick and fucking tired of getting screwed over and jerked around by the pricks in charge while they hand my hard earned tax money to the lowest common denominator, all while importing even more low value dredges!

Fuck them and the jeweled chariot they rode in on!

You hear that you government pukes?! You are hated. You are loathed. You are despised! YOU ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM!

DAMMMIT! [email protected]$%@#$!!

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 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Wasn't this ruled as a TAX?!

I think there has been some shady shit going on in financial markets and they have shifted real assets into this fake fucking system!

[WE THE PEOPLE] NEED TO Expose it ALL
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Obamacare is a scam, but I think the massive increase of insurance prices right before the election is also suspect.
Hillary said she plans to remove private insurance, so i think this are insurance companies bumping the prices to hit her voter base.

Not that i care for the psycho bitch, but isn't this price hike suspect to the rest of you?

As Canadian, I don't know much about US health insurance, so I'm asking you guys. doesn't this look suspect? is this just the government raising the price for the obamacare, or are the prices jumping across the board?
 Quoting: News_hungry


It's a redistribution of wealth scheme. Everyone gets coverage those who can pay will have to pay for those that can't one way or another. Everything is covered preexisting conditions too.

It takes disposable income away from the middle class. It is an economic destroyer and it is the law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39795489


To me it doesn't look like redistribution of wealth, but scam.

Maybe obamacare was intended to fail, so Hillary can replace it with a government only health insurance.1dunno1

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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73284544


I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
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I know people who scrimped and saved all their lives to retire and did well. Hard-working old-fashioned folks. Cancer and an auto accident ran them dead broke. They died in debtI remember this every time I see a Medicaid case and an ER full of border jumpers.
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I thought the US was the greatest country on the planet?
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It is...for those on the government dole who don't mind living in shitholes.
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Insurance costs are rising for me by over 900%. No shit. 900+%. No alternative. Just bend over and take it like a champ!

Honestly, I hope Hitlary tries to steal this shit so we can get this fucking party started in earnest. I am sick and fucking tired of getting screwed over and jerked around by the pricks in charge while they hand my hard earned tax money to the lowest common denominator, all while importing even more low value dredges!

Fuck them and the jeweled chariot they rode in on!

You hear that you government pukes?! You are hated. You are loathed. You are despised! YOU ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM!

DAMMMIT! [email protected]$%@#$!!

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 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Wasn't this ruled as a TAX?!

I think there has been some shady shit going on in financial markets and they have shifted real assets into this fake fucking system!

[WE THE PEOPLE] NEED TO Expose it ALL
 Quoting: abalienari non possu


A MUSLIM TAX meant to bankrupt the populace as they bring in Refugees to incite violence....then the Islamic takeover begins...pay the TAX, beheading or conversion...take your pick...this was their plan all along with the ACA.
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My insurance went up 90%, and I'm just not going to pay. It would be way cheaper for me just to pay the 2.5% penalty. I'm also assuming Trump will win, and this shit will go away anyway.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Floyd Gondolli


Assuming Trump does win the Presidential Election and he becomes our new President there's no guarantees he'll succeed in getting rid of Obamacare. Last I knew there is alot of Obamacare regulation and other crap that's still being slowly uncovered by Congress that seems to prove that Obamacare is literally impossible to repeal in any sort of way.

Meaning literally only those who wrote the Affordable Healthcare Act and who those planned it knows precisely what's in it. Congress is only allowed to get bit by bit more information about what's there in Obamacare. It's written so completely in Legalese that it's taking this fricken long to get maybe half way through the entire 100's of pages that is Obamacare.

Last I knew too, the Affordable Healthcare Act is so monstrous and unfathomably inhumane that even the Congressmen and women who have literally deciphered the Obamacare texts they have thus far are constantly surprised just how much more inhumane and monstrous the Obamacare texts continue to become. That should be a gigantic red flag that even our Congress men and women have come to the conclusion already that Obamacare alone shall destroy our country completely.
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
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Well at this point, every family in America is required to finance a $30,000 car......they just don't get the car.
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you have to cover all the people coming into the country with no skills, no money, no way to survive, except for the working schleps - that's you.

And, killary WANTS OPEN BORDERS people....how totally stupid are the morons in this country? OPEN BORDERS.....that means (in case you ARE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND 2+2) that anyone and everyone can come here from some third world cesspool and reside here ON YOUR DIME?? What CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND HERE PEOPLE??????

I work in a school system (endoctrination centers) and they're begging for a bond (more raising of taxes and stealing of YOUR money) to pay for immigration....60% of our schools are immigrants....YOUR children are NOT GETTING AN EDUCATION EXCEPT IN BULL CRAP.....our education system is dead....and they want MORE, MORE, MORE.....stand up for something people.....something....for heavens sake.
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THIS!
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
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You can usually negotiate services for 1/3 of the cost to the insurance by paying for cash.
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Damn OP. good luck man.
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
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I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
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THEN TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN BODY ... because "they" are NOT going to cure you - if you are cured, it would be a conflict of the interest of the Medical INDUSTRY ...

I can count how many times that i have gone to a dr - in my life - on one hand ... when are you going to get it - DIS-ease is SELF created because you let KORPs control you state of being - with their genetically modifying and mind controlling drugs - that make you sick so they can sell their products
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Not to get too crass, OP, but you're finally getting sick and tired of this Government BS? Wow. I thought you and everyone else would of been fed up with their BS the second they mentioned "Oh yeah! We got this new Affordable Healthcare Bill going through Congress now. It'll become a new Act or Law very soon. Enjoy!". I've been fed up with their BS since day one. It's better late than never though, OP. Welcome to the American Side of America, OP! thumbs
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Hah, I have been sick of it for a long time. This is just another step in a long line of steps towards completely losing my shit over it though.

In all of the past things the feds have done, they have been smaller and less significant to my normal day to day. By design I might add. They didn't affect my family because I was able to absorb the smaller hits. I created a buffer from the monetary aspects of life so they could concentrate on being happy and living a good, positive life while there was still something left to be positive about.

I am more pissed off this time because things have officially gotten to the point where I can no longer provide that buffer for my family. They are feeling it and I am having to explain that things are going to change for everyone in very big ways.

In short, the government and their shithole policies have stopped affecting just me and are now affecting my family as a unit.

When you fuck with my family, I get pissed on a whole new level. I am sure you can relate to that.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


My family and I were initially way too poor to afford any Obamacare healthcare packages. So we never once experienced anything you're describing, OP. This also means we're so poor that just about anything that goes wrong in our family will cause great ripples of chaos. Them some apples noone in my family likes but it's the cards we were dealt from the get-go.

Looks like you and your family must decide either becoming as poor as my family and adopting our lifestyle and problems or abandoning Obamacare and retaining whatever lifestyle y'all are already enjoying and maintain the Freemason Code of Silence pretty much. This meaning NOONE say that they're without Obamacare. I don't doubt by this point in time Obama's cronies are actively hunting for those who can't and refuse to pay into their ridiculous Obamacare extortion racket.

Excellent! You're plenty angry then, OP! Then do whatever is necessary to protect your family. I myself suggest you say and live by "Fuck off, Obamacare and Obama! My family comes first, not your filthy Muslim filth!".
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Insurance costs are rising for me by over 900%. No shit. 900+%. No alternative. Just bend over and take it like a champ!

Honestly, I hope Hitlary tries to steal this shit so we can get this fucking party started in earnest. I am sick and fucking tired of getting screwed over and jerked around by the pricks in charge while they hand my hard earned tax money to the lowest common denominator, all while importing even more low value dredges!

Fuck them and the jeweled chariot they rode in on!

You hear that you government pukes?! You are hated. You are loathed. You are despised! YOU ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM!

DAMMMIT! [email protected]$%@#$!!

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 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Wasn't this ruled as a TAX?!

I think there has been some shady shit going on in financial markets and they have shifted real assets into this fake fucking system!

[WE THE PEOPLE] NEED TO Expose it ALL
 Quoting: abalienari non possu


A MUSLIM TAX meant to bankrupt the populace as they bring in Refugees to incite violence....then the Islamic takeover begins...pay the TAX, beheading or conversion...take your pick...this was their plan all along with the ACA.
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73284544


I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
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what if you spent the money on organic healthy food & preventive herbs & yoga classes & the gym?
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But then what if some immigrant driver smashed into you head on and not only totaled your car, but totaled you, with multiple broken bones and joints, punctured lung, concussion?

People never realize that severe injuries can be just as catastrophic as illnesses, and healthy food and vitamins are not going to prevent them.

This is why catastrophic insurance is so valuable to all ages.
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Sad thing is, my company is busting their asses to try to take some of the heat off us too.

Even with all their help and them taking on a larger chunk of the costs, this is the result. Without them stepping up, it would be even higher.

How are we who actually work for a living expected to live? I want to know. It isn't like I am a low level earner. I am educated and have a great job. I still can't make ends meet without some serious corners being cut. Corners that are now affecting how my family lives.

This change in costing will quite literally put me right back into my 20's as far as earnings go.

Damned fools paradise we live in...
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Hell, my husband has insurance through work and the coverage is 90 percent. He went to a family doctor for a basic check up and we just got a bill for 300$. How is that possible? Fuck, he was only in there 5 minutes?

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I think it's to the point that it's just not affordable and should not be purchased.
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
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You can usually negotiate services for 1/3 of the cost to the insurance by paying for cash.
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I went for eye exam and paid cash. They wanted to do an extra test. I asked them how much would it cost? They told me it's a $200 charge (to the ins) if I used insurance, they charge me $20 if cash. I did the cash. I paid them the cash.

True story, happened less than a year ago.
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Its ok trump will fix it. Right? Right? Not..
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
My insurance went up 90%, and I'm just not going to pay. It would be way cheaper for me just to pay the 2.5% penalty. I'm also assuming Trump will win, and this shit will go away anyway.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Floyd Gondolli


Assuming Trump does win the Presidential Election and he becomes our new President there's no guarantees he'll succeed in getting rid of Obamacare. Last I knew there is alot of Obamacare regulation and other crap that's still being slowly uncovered by Congress that seems to prove that Obamacare is literally impossible to repeal in any sort of way.

Meaning literally only those who wrote the Affordable Healthcare Act and who those planned it knows precisely what's in it. Congress is only allowed to get bit by bit more information about what's there in Obamacare. It's written so completely in Legalese that it's taking this fricken long to get maybe half way through the entire 100's of pages that is Obamacare.

Last I knew too, the Affordable Healthcare Act is so monstrous and unfathomably inhumane that even the Congressmen and women who have literally deciphered the Obamacare texts they have thus far are constantly surprised just how much more inhumane and monstrous the Obamacare texts continue to become. That should be a gigantic red flag that even our Congress men and women have come to the conclusion already that Obamacare alone shall destroy our country completely.
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Executive order. He would have to nullify anything covered in the Act.

He would have to have the insurance companies ready at day one to pick up the reins though. Maybe by reinstating coverage that was canceled by Obamacare.
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
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Any other year, it would work a treat. This coming year, I can't do that because of some other things going on in the background.

In fact, that is how my wife and I used to do things before a couple years back and it worked out perfectly. Just changing circumstances forcing our hand for the moment.
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See the problem is that Doctors really don't want to see patients who don't have insurance do to the fact that they over charge and make more money fleecing the companies with nickel and dime shit that a normal people would question plus the Government will soon be charging an arm and a leg in penalties for those who don't have insurance.
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I refuse to pay for unfordable forced by the criminal mob obimbocare. If they fine me and continue to do so I am leaving this country.
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
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I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
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what if you spent the money on organic healthy food & preventive herbs & yoga classes & the gym?
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But then what if some immigrant driver smashed into you head on and not only totaled your car, but totaled you, with multiple broken bones and joints, punctured lung, concussion?

People never realize that severe injuries can be just as catastrophic as illnesses, and healthy food and vitamins are not going to prevent them.

This is why catastrophic insurance is so valuable to all ages.
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car insurance covers that
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
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I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
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That was the great thing pre-Obamacare. You could get a catastrophic high deductible plan for cheap that would cover the big stuff, and you would pay for the everyday small items out of your own pocket. That is what I used to have, but lost it because of Obamacare. I guess I shouldn't complain too much though, because I now have full maternity and prenatal, substance abuse coverage and they will also cover sex change surgery in my new high priced Obamacare compliant plan.





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