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What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...

 
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Insurance is causing me to get a divorce.
They won't cover my wife's treatment but Medicaid will.
As long as we are married she is not eligible for Medicaid
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I dont pay.
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We should have a Single Payor System, not this bullshit.
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
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I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
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Get the surgery and recover...get first bill and chapter7 it away.
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Which is why the costs go up for those who do pay!
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We should have a Single Payor System, not this bullshit.
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Yeah government run like the VA thats the fucking ticket. What happens to that idea is after awhile the rule and restrictions continue to tighten and restrict until you are given the final solution as the only option for treatment.

No free market capitalism with value priced and competed for is the only way.

You want more socialism.
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IF people dont pay the system will crash and then we will
be forced to do it right. Dont feed the beast any longer.Its
draining your life.
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This isn't only the fault of Insurance companies. The is absolutely zero competition in the health care space that isn't ripe with corporate collusion. The only thing these health care companies are competing over is how fast they can literally double costs for the most basic of care.

My recent need for physical therapy, literally cost the insurance company 500$ an HOUR. Yes it cost 500$ an hour for non-degreed PT tech to work out with me. I had never dreamed it was that expensive or I would of told the doctor that I don't need it. Even after maxing my deductible for the best health care plan I could even get through my company my out of pocket for Physical Therapy was 100$ a hour. There are people with doctorates that don't clear anywhere near 100$ an hour.

And honestly Pro athletes get better more individualized care for far less because they can keep a doctor on staff.

Something is clearly wrong with an industry that can charge anything it wants and people have to pay, it's their health after all.
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IF people dont pay the system will crash and then we will
be forced to do it right. Dont feed the beast any longer.Its
draining your life.
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If any emergency arises then pay it off with the payments you are making now.
Everybody is viewing this wrong. People are acting like sheep. The power always lays with the money. You have the
money ... therefore you can choose to pay or not. You have
the power. Stop living in fear and thinking like a sheep.
You are SOVEREIGN. Act like it. Stop giving you sovereignty
away to the elites in DC.
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Attorneys and Wall Street bro. That is why healthcare is so expensive...

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Just 2 generations ago, doctors made HOUSE CALLS.

Think of that.

When health insurance first started, around 100 years ago, it was NOT to pay for medical expenses. Everybody could afford to pay hospital bills OUT OF POCKET. But they could not afford the income lost if they were out of work for several months. So, insurance paid INCOME REPLACEMENT, not health expenses.

Think of THAT.

As the federal government has become more and more involved in the health care industry, to the point where today MORE THAN HALF of all health care dollars goes through the feds, the expense has gone higher and higher. Just like taxes, or anything else the government touches.

We have separation of church and state.

We need separation of health care and state.
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↑ this ▲

Explained CLEARLY.
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Jobs are for slaves.

Government: BY the people, FOR the people. Learn how to make it work for you.
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What people?
Explain yourself.
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Just 2 generations ago, doctors made HOUSE CALLS.

Think of that.

When health insurance first started, around 100 years ago, it was NOT to pay for medical expenses. Everybody could afford to pay hospital bills OUT OF POCKET. But they could not afford the income lost if they were out of work for several months. So, insurance paid INCOME REPLACEMENT, not health expenses.

Think of THAT.

As the federal government has become more and more involved in the health care industry, to the point where today MORE THAN HALF of all health care dollars goes through the feds, the expense has gone higher and higher. Just like taxes, or anything else the government touches.

We have separation of church and state.

We need separation of health care and state.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24454889


↑ this ▲

Explained CLEARLY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70970975


this!! 100%

if we went back to house calls, it would solve so much.

transmission of illnesses from patient to patient alone, would stop the spread of these out of control infections!

what is needed, is a group of doctors and other health care professionals in each community to drop out the system, and go back to house calls.

honestly, it seems like the doctors are making bank, but they are getting screwed too! they are getting pennies on the dollar from the insurance companies and government. i know this first hand, as i have read a TON of doctors complaints and have spoken to a few. many are retiring early.
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This is what the vagina voters don't understand. A vote for Clinton is a vote for Obamacare. The rates will continue to soar.
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73284544


I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2712120


THEN TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN BODY ... because "they" are NOT going to cure you - if you are cured, it would be a conflict of the interest of the Medical INDUSTRY ...

I can count how many times that i have gone to a dr - in my life - on one hand ... when are you going to get it - DIS-ease is SELF created because you let KORPs control you state of being - with their genetically modifying and mind controlling drugs - that make you sick so they can sell their products
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


And when you have a traffic accident with an uninsured asshole and end up with a couple of fractures you do what? Pray it away? I'm glad you're healthy and have never had an accident but there are events over which "lifestyle choices" have no influence.

OP is talking about a problem, I suspect a sermon is not really what he had in mind...
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We should have a Single Payor System, not this bullshit.
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Yeah government run like the VA thats the fucking ticket. What happens to that idea is after awhile the rule and restrictions continue to tighten and restrict until you are given the final solution as the only option for treatment.

No free market capitalism with value priced and competed for is the only way.

You want more socialism.
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I don't want For Profit Healthcare and fake diagnosies just to rake in our money.
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73284544


I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2712120


THEN TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN BODY ... because "they" are NOT going to cure you - if you are cured, it would be a conflict of the interest of the Medical INDUSTRY ...

I can count how many times that i have gone to a dr - in my life - on one hand ... when are you going to get it - DIS-ease is SELF created because you let KORPs control you state of being - with their genetically modifying and mind controlling drugs - that make you sick so they can sell their products
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


This is true in theory. But it is no longer reality.

DIS-ease is sometimes self created, and stress makes EVERYTHING worse.

HOWEVER; unless you live somewhere with no cell towers, do not use a cell phone, wifi, or are near smart meters, your theory is trash. forget about the water supply that is completely contaminated. do you have some sort of fresh stream that you bathe in, and use for everything?

you can eat the best diet in the world, be of perfect BMI, cardio perfect, and get hit with a catastrophic illness. i should know.

i have been very healthy my entire life, until the last few years. i never even took an advil unless i absolutely had to... which was very, very rare. NO meds. NO drugs.

and bam! i got hit with something that is definitely caused by our technological, toxic environment. brain tumor.and many things that follow with it.

so unless you are in some sort of bubble, typing with your internet connection, be very careful about what you say.

by the Grace of God, you go...
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Sad thing is, my company is busting their asses to try to take some of the heat off us too.

Even with all their help and them taking on a larger chunk of the costs, this is the result. Without them stepping up, it would be even higher.

How are we who actually work for a living expected to live? I want to know. It isn't like I am a low level earner. I am educated and have a great job. I still can't make ends meet without some serious corners being cut. Corners that are now affecting how my family lives.

This change in costing will quite literally put me right back into my 20's as far as earnings go.

Damned fools paradise we live in...
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You want to help yourself?..

stop concentrating on "work" and start spreading the information the NYPD has on her, hima and her filthy satanist minions.

MAKE PEOPLE AWARE!

there are many right now risking everything to get this information out..HELP THEM!!
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We should have a Single Payor System, not this bullshit.
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Sad thing is, my company is busting their asses to try to take some of the heat off us too.

Even with all their help and them taking on a larger chunk of the costs, this is the result. Without them stepping up, it would be even higher.

How are we who actually work for a living expected to live? I want to know. It isn't like I am a low level earner. I am educated and have a great job. I still can't make ends meet without some serious corners being cut. Corners that are now affecting how my family lives.

This change in costing will quite literally put me right back into my 20's as far as earnings go.

Damned fools paradise we live in...
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help the NYPD and others get the information they have on these people out!!

THAT IS HOW YOU HELP YOURSELF!
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73284544


I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
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I feel so sorry for the middle class. This is one time I can say I feel blessed to be poor because I don't even make enough to qualify for Ovomit Care. Am a senior citizen with cancer on limited social security,and with being in that lowest of low categories, thankfully all of my medical bills are paid for (and yes, I know by whom and bless you all as I did the same pay-in when I could work).

But the way the system is structured, if I could work, I would rank myself out of all care being covered and be right where so many are with this "affordable" act - right in the middle so I could never afford my cancer treatments - or to eat - or both.

What a screwed up country we live in right now.
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Sad thing is, my company is busting their asses to try to take some of the heat off us too.

Even with all their help and them taking on a larger chunk of the costs, this is the result. Without them stepping up, it would be even higher.

How are we who actually work for a living expected to live? I want to know. It isn't like I am a low level earner. I am educated and have a great job. I still can't make ends meet without some serious corners being cut. Corners that are now affecting how my family lives.

This change in costing will quite literally put me right back into my 20's as far as earnings go.

Damned fools paradise we live in...
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


help the NYPD and others get the information they have on these people out!!

THAT IS HOW YOU HELP YOURSELF!

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Preaching to the choir, my friend.
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You can do everything 'right' and still get that epidemic called diabetes,just happened to a friend of mine,as an example.And diabetes treatment last couple years has gone thru the roof!! just one example.

Another cost driver is gov mandated protocols that require hospitals to do a battery of tests based on diagnosis.Those tests often dont need to be done and can be very very expensive.

Like having a chest pain episode,you WILL be leaving with a prescription for statins and dont even get me started on that pharma scam.And ma and pa public pretty much havent a clue how bad those drugs are.
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How about if you put all those premium bucks into staying super healthy?

(best food, best habits and nutrition, best methods to exercise for you)
stuff like that.

Lose the fear and "what if's". What if's ARE their main mode of propaganda and seeding those thoughts ya know.

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You guys could have the best and free health care system in the world if you all paid 1% medical tax on everything you bought.. Kind of like a harmonized sales tax that would directly go to your medical system.

The adopt something like us where we have our government float the bills for surgery and doctor visits.

Then you could have private insurance for prescriptions..

There are many people in Canada who pay out of pocket for bottles of medications.. Most people who work have medical benefits.

The big difference is our government regulates prescription drug prices so its not 30 dollar a pill.. but more like 10 cents a pill..
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Sad thing is, my company is busting their asses to try to take some of the heat off us too.

Even with all their help and them taking on a larger chunk of the costs, this is the result. Without them stepping up, it would be even higher.

How are we who actually work for a living expected to live? I want to know. It isn't like I am a low level earner. I am educated and have a great job. I still can't make ends meet without some serious corners being cut. Corners that are now affecting how my family lives.

This change in costing will quite literally put me right back into my 20's as far as earnings go.

Damned fools paradise we live in...
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At least you can afford a family.. mine left me because of a piss poor salary..
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You guys could have the best and free health care system in the world if you all paid 1% medical tax on everything you bought.. Kind of like a harmonized sales tax that would directly go to your medical system.

The adopt something like us where we have our government float the bills for surgery and doctor visits.

Then you could have private insurance for prescriptions..

There are many people in Canada who pay out of pocket for bottles of medications.. Most people who work have medical benefits.

The big difference is our government regulates prescription drug prices so its not 30 dollar a pill.. but more like 10 cents a pill..
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And before anyone says our health care system sucks because of long waits or we go to the u.s for major surgeries.. Well, Canada has a problem retaining or attracting doctors because of the private system you americans use.. We are literally short on doctors, short on good doctors, and most leave canada for better pay in the u.s..
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Insurance costs are rising for me by over 900%. No shit. 900+%. No alternative. Just bend over and take it like a champ!

Honestly, I hope Hitlary tries to steal this shit so we can get this fucking party started in earnest. I am sick and fucking tired of getting screwed over and jerked around by the pricks in charge while they hand my hard earned tax money to the lowest common denominator, all while importing even more low value dredges!

Fuck them and the jeweled chariot they rode in on!

You hear that you government pukes?! You are hated. You are loathed. You are despised! YOU ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM!

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 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Did you gripe at work on my time, or at home on your time? If at work your cutting into my pocket, whos gonna pay for my stamp, Huh!
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Instead of having the insurance, what if you saved all the money you spend on the premiums, and paid the doctor/dentist in cash? Would that work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73284544


I would think this would work for ordinary, everyday "doctor-needed" type things.

But what if you suddenly became catastrophically ill? Cancer, or Open-heart surgery type things? Those can cost upwards of hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars. Most of us cannot afford that type of a hit, even if we saved every last disposable penny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2712120


THEN TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN BODY ... because "they" are NOT going to cure you - if you are cured, it would be a conflict of the interest of the Medical INDUSTRY ...

I can count how many times that i have gone to a dr - in my life - on one hand ... when are you going to get it - DIS-ease is SELF created because you let KORPs control you state of being - with their genetically modifying and mind controlling drugs - that make you sick so they can sell their products
 Quoting: Sunny Daze


This is true in theory. But it is no longer reality.

DIS-ease is sometimes self created, and stress makes EVERYTHING worse.

HOWEVER; unless you live somewhere with no cell towers, do not use a cell phone, wifi, or are near smart meters, your theory is trash. forget about the water supply that is completely contaminated. do you have some sort of fresh stream that you bathe in, and use for everything?

you can eat the best diet in the world, be of perfect BMI, cardio perfect, and get hit with a catastrophic illness. i should know.

i have been very healthy my entire life, until the last few years. i never even took an advil unless i absolutely had to... which was very, very rare. NO meds. NO drugs.

and bam! i got hit with something that is definitely caused by our technological, toxic environment. brain tumor.and many things that follow with it.

so unless you are in some sort of bubble, typing with your internet connection, be very careful about what you say.

by the Grace of God, you go...
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I too am kinda hoping Hillary steals the election so we can get it going already.
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Re: What a nightmare... 900+% increase... Good lord, I am getting sick of this shit...
Sad thing is, my company is busting their asses to try to take some of the heat off us too.

Even with all their help and them taking on a larger chunk of the costs, this is the result. Without them stepping up, it would be even higher.

How are we who actually work for a living expected to live? I want to know. It isn't like I am a low level earner. I am educated and have a great job. I still can't make ends meet without some serious corners being cut. Corners that are now affecting how my family lives.

This change in costing will quite literally put me right back into my 20's as far as earnings go.

Damned fools paradise we live in...
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


At least you can afford a family.. mine left me because of a piss poor salary..
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Married to a nurse,an angel of mercy? I couldnt believe how many marriages have been destroyed the the economic collapse.And how fast nurses dumped their spouses.Glad mine is faithful.





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