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How do you feel about the fact that a Roman emperor and dictator invented Christianity as you know it?

 
Monotheism  (OP)

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The trinity is a grave idolatrous perversion of the truth, nothing else. An idol.
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Can you explain how you how arrived at this deduction? Specifically, how have you ascertained the truth as you see it in order to judge the trinity to be a perversion of that truth?
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Because it's a grave violation of the first and most important commandment. And the oneness and supremacy of YHWH is emphasized like no other principle in the Bible.

"I am YHWH your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. "You shall have no other gods before me. Exodus 20:2-3

Scripture clearly identifies the Father as alone being YHWH. The Vatican of course knows this too.

Thread: The great cover-up; The Vatican ban's God's name

We know how the trinity was invented. We know they adopted concepts and terminology from Gnosticism and Hellenistic philosophy to glue together their empty sophistry and cheap semantics. We know when it was invented, what roleneach council played, we know how doctrines were added and progressively developed over several centuries, and we know how its eventual adoption weren't up to the church, but the emperor.

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It's a false, conceptualized image of the true God. An outrageous and abominable lie that will inevitably come to and end.

And YHWH will be king over all the earth. On that day YHWH will be one and his name one. Zechariah 14:9
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Jesus Christ IS Truth.
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Jesus Christ is God.
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Amen.
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His own words deny it.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

You don't even have the same God as the one you profess to follow.
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Empty catch-phrases for an empty religion.
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Re: How do you feel about the fact that a Roman emperor and dictator invented Christianity as you know it?
Jesus Christ IS Truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47621122


Jesus Christ is God.
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47621122


His own words deny it.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

You don't even have the same God as the one you profess to follow.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Please accept my courteous invitation to debate this subject now that you're here.
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Jesus Christ is God.
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Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47621122


His own words deny it.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

You don't even have the same God as the one you profess to follow.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Please accept my courteous invitation to debate this subject now that you're here.
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


I already answered you please make your point regarding the word/logos, or better yet, start your own thread.
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You continue your deleting frenzy?
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Is the above account about the Logos lacking in anything?
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You continue your deleting frenzy?
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


Yes, because you refuse to stay on topic. I was making a point.

Is the above account about the Logos lacking in anything?
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I still don't even know what point you're trying to make.
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You continue your deleting frenzy?
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


Yes, because you refuse to stay on topic. I was making a point.

Is the above account about the Logos lacking in anything?
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I still don't even know what point you're trying to make.
 Quoting: Monotheism


A stepwise dialectic.
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Christianity wrong for 2000 years until you came along?

It's not 2000 years, it's ~1600 years. And has zero to do with Jesus.
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Is there anything incorrect, from your standpoint, in my understanding of the word of God?
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Christianity wrong for 2000 years until you came along?

It's not 2000 years, it's ~1600 years. And has zero to do with Jesus.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Genesis is write. If you are trying to say there was no creation, prove it?

Jesus is creator as it says in the Bible.
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Is there anything incorrect, from your standpoint, in my understanding of the word of God?
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Did you watch the videos I posted?

[link to www.prweb.com]

The correct standpoint is this: Jesus is not YHWH.
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Christianity wrong for 2000 years until you came along?

It's not 2000 years, it's ~1600 years. And has zero to do with Jesus.
 Quoting: Monotheism


Genesis is write. If you are trying to say there was no creation, prove it?

Jesus is creator as it says in the Bible.
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No, the Bible says YHWH created the world. And Jesus wasn't promoted to God until the 4th century.
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Is there anything incorrect, from your standpoint, in my understanding of the word of God?
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


Did you watch the videos I posted?

[link to www.prweb.com]

The correct standpoint is this: Jesus is not YHWH.
 Quoting: Monotheism


I can't watch videos as I only have a 200MB credit for now.
Now as for Yahweh, since you refuse to comment on the above perspective on the word of God, what is yours?
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Re: How do you feel about the fact that a Roman emperor and dictator invented Christianity as you know it?
Jesus Christ IS Truth.
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More empty catch-phrases from an empty religion.
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Re: How do you feel about the fact that a Roman emperor and dictator invented Christianity as you know it?
Wait! Jesus not the Logos?

You don't believe in the book of Revelation? You want me to quote from the epistles to prove that the apostles themselves, whether of the party of Paul or of that of Peter, perused that all important book?
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Re: How do you feel about the fact that a Roman emperor and dictator invented Christianity as you know it?
Is there anything incorrect, from your standpoint, in my understanding of the word of God?
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Did you watch the videos I posted?

[link to www.prweb.com]

The correct standpoint is this: Jesus is not YHWH.
 Quoting: Monotheism


I can't watch videos as I only have a 200MB credit for now.
Now as for Yahweh, since you refuse to comment on the above perspective on the word of God, what is yours?
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


God is a personal God, meaning he is a God of identity. Thus, arguing the ontological perspective of "God" becomes of no value. Especially since human beings and angels are called god/elohim/theos too. Also notice the definite article lacking in John 1:1.
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Re: How do you feel about the fact that a Roman emperor and dictator invented Christianity as you know it?
Jesus Christ IS Truth.
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More empty catch-phrases from an empty religion.
 Quoting: Monotheism


For God's sake, answer my question. What is the point of your thread otherwise?
Monotheism  (OP)

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Wait! Jesus not the Logos?

You don't believe in the book of Revelation? You want me to quote from the epistles to prove that the apostles themselves, whether of the party of Paul or of that of Peter, perused that all important book?
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


Bookmark the videos I gave you and watch when you have time and access.
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Re: How do you feel about the fact that a Roman emperor and dictator invented Christianity as you know it?
Jesus Christ IS Truth.
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More empty catch-phrases from an empty religion.
 Quoting: Monotheism


For God's sake, answer my question. What is the point of your thread otherwise?
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The topic is emperor Theodosius. As clearly stated in the title and OP.
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Is there anything incorrect, from your standpoint, in my understanding of the word of God?
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Did you watch the videos I posted?

[link to www.prweb.com]

The correct standpoint is this: Jesus is not YHWH.
 Quoting: Monotheism


I can't watch videos as I only have a 200MB credit for now.
Now as for Yahweh, since you refuse to comment on the above perspective on the word of God, what is yours?
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


God is a personal God, meaning he is a God of identity. Thus, arguing the ontological perspective of "God" becomes of no value. Especially since human beings and angels are called god/elohim/theos too. Also notice the definite article lacking in John 1:1.
 Quoting: Monotheism


You don't read my posts or what? I laboriously made it a point to distinguish ton theon from theos!

I wrote that "ton theon" means the God, Him unto whom the concept of God, the word "God" applies, while theos meant the mere word "God", the concept of God itself.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with THE GOD and "GOD" was THE WORD. i.e., the word in question is the word "GOD".
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Re: How do you feel about the fact that a Roman emperor and dictator invented Christianity as you know it?
Do you agree with this, namely that the word in John is the word "God"? (Not the outward string of characters "God" but its inward meaning of course).
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Jesus Christ IS Truth.
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Jesus Christ is God.
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Amen.
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His own words deny it.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

You don't even have the same God as the one you profess to follow.
 Quoting: Monotheism


God can and did do exactly as He said He would.

He also will.

It does not matter that you disagree and disapprove.
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God can and God did.

You will have your chance to tell Him otherwise.
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Did you watch the videos I posted?

[link to www.prweb.com]

The correct standpoint is this: Jesus is not YHWH.
 Quoting: Monotheism


I can't watch videos as I only have a 200MB credit for now.
Now as for Yahweh, since you refuse to comment on the above perspective on the word of God, what is yours?
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


God is a personal God, meaning he is a God of identity. Thus, arguing the ontological perspective of "God" becomes of no value. Especially since human beings and angels are called god/elohim/theos too. Also notice the definite article lacking in John 1:1.
 Quoting: Monotheism


You don't read my posts or what? I laboriously made it a point to distinguish ton theon from theos!

I wrote that "ton theon" means the God, Him unto whom the concept of God, the word "God" applies, while theos meant the mere word "God", the concept of God itself.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with THE GOD and "GOD" was THE WORD. i.e., the word in question is the word "GOD".
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


kai ho logos en pros ton theon = and the Word was with the God

(...)

- kai theos en ho logos = and God was the Word (no definite article).
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Jesus Christ is God.
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


Amen.
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His own words deny it.

Thread: Jesus denied being God

You don't even have the same God as the one you profess to follow.
 Quoting: Monotheism


God can and did do exactly as He said He would.

He also will.

It does not matter that you disagree and disapprove.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47621122


What are you claiming God said he would do? Here's what God said; the Messiah will be a God-fearing servant.

Thread: God says the Messiah will fear God, Christians says the Messiah will be God.

Isaiah 11:1-5

11 There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse,
and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit.
2 And the Spirit of YHWH shall rest upon him,
the Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and might,
the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of YHWH.
3 And his delight shall be in the fear of YHWH.

He shall not judge by what his eyes see,
or decide disputes by what his ears hear,

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The silence is disappointing, especially when the Word is our concern.

The Word of God is simply the word "God", "God" is a word hence the Word of God.
No, we are not speaking about the outward string of characters "God" but about its inward meaning.

Jesus is the word "God".

En arche en ho Logos kai ho Logos en pros ton Theon kai Theosen ho Logos.

Nota bene:

ton Theon: the God, Him who is God, Him unto whom the concept of God applies.

Theos: "God", the word "God", the property of being God, the concept of God, godhood.

Thus, In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with the God and "God" was the Word.


This has far reaching consequences (one of them is that the last "was" in the above sentence is not merely "=", as in the word we are talking about is the particular word "God", but also predication i.e, to that particular word that same word itself applies i.e., the Word is God).

This can be demonstrated.
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73345540


Here, you didn't address the above.
As for a separate thread, why not. But my chief purpose is to destroy, creation is but a side effect of destruction.

If you read the account of Genesis you will notice that creation is really creative destruction: the gods create in order to divide something from something. Creation is a means to the end of destruction.

A child is but a side effect of destroying, piercing, a woman with one's "sword". Yes this is disgusting and why I have not, nor shall ever kill a woman. Eve, our rib, isn't here, she is in heaven.
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OP, what is wrong in the above perspective on the meaning of "the Word of God".
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73353844


You don't read my replies, do you?
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God can and God did.

You will have your chance to tell Him otherwise.
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OP, do not avoid me, read my nth quotation of my answer.





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