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A so called 'time traveler' maybe made some hits so far...
Ok first, the databases still contain data from many years on GLP, that's a good thing because you can check by yourself.

Between March and October 2009 a self proclaimed 'time traveler' started to post almost daily in this forum. As usual, you cannot take anything like that seriously, because roleplay used to reing (and still does) here.

That said, this person claimed to come from the 109th century and much of the material posted here is unique, meaning, you won't find anything like that on the entire internet; original content.

For a better understanding you need to read this thread:

Thread: A time traveler just visited us? This is the resume I made for you.

Person's name was 'Alcyone'. To make the story short, in my many years reading forums like this one, I never, ever, read that level of dedication. You have to picture a person releasing many times completely original material for months, day after day.

Why to come back with all this legacy material? Well, the only way you can corroborate a supposed 'time traveler' is basically comparing what the person claimed with the developing history.

I'll refer you to a specific thread Alcyone created just because people wanted to know what to expect from the remaining part of the current century:

Thread: History of the Twenty-First Century

Ok, now time to pay some attention. She claimed, in 2009:

Some historians speculate that a major war, lasting about six years, broke out around 2012. The location most often suggested for this war is the Middle East. Although the identities of the players in this conflict are a matter of contentious debate, China seems to have been the primary benefactor of this hypothetical war, as China is known to have become the most influential world power in the Middle East by 2030. In addition, the United States and, to a lesser degree, Russia, seem to have expended a great deal of resources for some reason during the 2010s, as the national debt of both countries increased dramatically.

Now, let's contrast this information with the known facts:

After the events of the arab spring, in 2011 a horrendous civil war broke out in Syria. We all know that sadly, that the war still continues, with thousands and thousand of deaths.

Also, it's interesting to note what happened to the national debt of both Russia and the US. An article from today claims:

$20 trillion man: National debt nearly doubles during Obama presidency

Now, see what happens with Russia:

[link to www.tradingeconomics.com]

If you follow Alcyone's responses in many, many threads, she also posted this:


What really happened is that the United States stayed united until 2039 when China invaded and conquered the United States all the way to the Rocky Mountains. At
that point the part west of the Rockies was annexed and put under direct Chinese control, while apparently a Chinese-appointed President ruled the part east of the
Rockies as part of the terms of the American surrender. Hawaii also fell under direct Chinese authority.


Russia had already lost a lot of its strength because of a second Cold War with the United States and Europe, and China. Russia did manage to annex Alaska though.


See the bolded text. Ring a bell? We all know what happened with Ukraine and now with Syria and the involvement of both countries. It's not uncommon read on the MSM things like this:

Russia and the West have 'entered a new Cold War'

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Ok then, some days ago, against many 'polls' and predictions, Donald Trump won the election. This is what Alcyone claimed back then:

Ancient records say the 45th, 46th, and 48th Presidents were Republicans. So the Republican Party isn't dead yet.

If anyone was curious, the 47th President was a Democrat.


So yeah, in fact, the 45th president is republican.

Now, what other events we could verify in the near future?

As she said, the 46th president should be also republican, and we could verify this in 2020 or 2024.

And of course, as you can read from her XXI century thread, the World War III started in 2031 up to 2039, involving mainly China and the US, culminating with the american capitulation.

So well, I found it interesting back then, and now specially after this election, takes some sort of relevance. Just wanted to share it with you guys.
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Great post man.
Seems accurate.

Ill go check those threads for sure

Thanks for sharing
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This is another thing we could start to check now:

As World War III started, the President of the United States was named Gillibrand and the President of China was
named Chunhua.


Early in the war there were normal elections in both countries, and at that time a person named Schock was elected President of the United States and a person named Yaping was elected President of China. At the end of the war Yaping became the head of government of the western United States, but I don't know the name of the Chinese puppet who was appointed President of the eastern United States.


There we have actual names. Who are they? Well I found this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Kirsten Elizabeth Rutnik Gillibrand (/ˈkɪərstən ˈdʒɪlᵻbrænd/ keer-stən jil-ə-brand; born December 9, 1966) is an American politician and the junior United States Senator from New York, in office since 2009. Previously, she served in the United States House of Representatives, representing New York's 20th congressional district (2007–09). She is a member of the Democratic Party.

In December 2008, President-elect Barack Obama nominated Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, leaving an empty seat in the New York senate delegation. After two months and many potential names considered, Governor David Paterson appointed Gillibrand to fill the seat. Gillibrand was required to run in a special election in 2010, which she won with 63% of the vote. She was re-elected to a full six-year term in 2012 with 72% of the vote, the highest margin for any statewide candidate in New York.


[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Hu Chunhua (Chinese: 胡春华; born April 1963) is a Chinese politician, regional official, and a member of the Communist Party's Politburo. He is the Communist Party Secretary of Guangdong province, the province's top political office.[1]

Hu has worked in Tibet for much of his political career and ascended the party ranks partly through the Communist Youth League. He is popularly known as "little Hu" due to the similarities of his career with that of former leader Hu Jintao (no relation). He became China's youngest governor when he took the position in Hebei province in 2008. He was then promoted to Party Secretary of Inner Mongolia in 2009. As one of the youngest provincial leaders, Hu is seen as a promising candidate in the 'sixth generation' of Chinese leadership.[2][3]


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Nothing will happen like always. GLP effect is the only thing that's real
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Nothing will happen like always. GLP effect is the only thing that's real
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But that's the point of the thread. Some things apparently happened...
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Nothing will happen like always. GLP effect is the only thing that's real
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Re: History of the Twenty-First Century
It is a beautifully crafted load of bullshit. Interesting, but all a distraction made to keep you from choosing your own reality and to encourage to you keep living in fear.

If the OP had claimed that the next 100 years would be a time of peace and prosperity, I doubt anyone would take interest. It is the fear of war and death that grabs your attention, but none of it holds any basis in this timeline.
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Nothing will happen like always. GLP effect is the only thing that's real
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Re: History of the Twenty-First Century
It is a beautifully crafted load of bullshit. Interesting, but all a distraction made to keep you from choosing your own reality and to encourage to you keep living in fear.

If the OP had claimed that the next 100 years would be a time of peace and prosperity, I doubt anyone would take interest. It is the fear of war and death that grabs your attention, but none of it holds any basis in this timeline.
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The OP objective was to discuss the apparent hits, not the impossible to corroborate 'future' events.
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I remember these threads by her.

The thing with China overtaking the US IS possible because think of the beating China is about to take over Trump changing the trade policy with them. I am guessing this will give them hurt butts for several years.

But why would the US be that weak to not be able to defend its borders? HMMM, have that now don't we?

If what she said is true about the next 3 presidents (including Trump) would be republican, sounds like one of them could be a big old RINO.
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This is another thing we could start to check now:

As World War III started, the President of the United States was named Gillibrand and the President of China was
named Chunhua.


Early in the war there were normal elections in both countries, and at that time a person named Schock was elected President of the United States and a person named Yaping was elected President of China. At the end of the war Yaping became the head of government of the western United States, but I don't know the name of the Chinese puppet who was appointed President of the eastern United States.


There we have actual names. Who are they? Well I found this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Kirsten Elizabeth Rutnik Gillibrand (/ˈkɪərstən ˈdʒɪlᵻbrænd/ keer-stən jil-ə-brand; born December 9, 1966) is an American politician and the junior United States Senator from New York, in office since 2009. Previously, she served in the United States House of Representatives, representing New York's 20th congressional district (2007–09). She is a member of the Democratic Party.

In December 2008, President-elect Barack Obama nominated Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, leaving an empty seat in the New York senate delegation. After two months and many potential names considered, Governor David Paterson appointed Gillibrand to fill the seat. Gillibrand was required to run in a special election in 2010, which she won with 63% of the vote. She was re-elected to a full six-year term in 2012 with 72% of the vote, the highest margin for any statewide candidate in New York.


[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Hu Chunhua (Chinese: 胡春华; born April 1963) is a Chinese politician, regional official, and a member of the Communist Party's Politburo. He is the Communist Party Secretary of Guangdong province, the province's top political office.[1]

Hu has worked in Tibet for much of his political career and ascended the party ranks partly through the Communist Youth League. He is popularly known as "little Hu" due to the similarities of his career with that of former leader Hu Jintao (no relation). He became China's youngest governor when he took the position in Hebei province in 2008. He was then promoted to Party Secretary of Inner Mongolia in 2009. As one of the youngest provincial leaders, Hu is seen as a promising candidate in the 'sixth generation' of Chinese leadership.[2][3]


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Interesting. Too bad they didn't specify if it was a man or a women. Look at Kirsten Gillibrand NY D.
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If you believe in time travel you are actually retarded.
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If you believe in time travel you are actually retarded.
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Irrelevant. Discuss the data, thanks.
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I remember these threads by her.

The thing with China overtaking the US IS possible because think of the beating China is about to take over Trump changing the trade policy with them. I am guessing this will give them hurt butts for several years.

But why would the US be that weak to not be able to defend its borders? HMMM, have that now don't we?

If what she said is true about the next 3 presidents (including Trump) would be republican, sounds like one of them could be a big old RINO.
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According to her, the next president after Trump should be republican, but the next one, democrat.
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I read her essay awhile back. It was very interesting. Even if it is not true, it damn good read.
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Nothing will happen like always. GLP effect is the only thing that's real
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OP is fact checking the OP of those posts

reading comprehension much?

he/she is doing a great job so far
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well well well

The Gillibrand mystique: Is memoir a step along presidential pathway?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]

Telegenic and brainy, the 47-year-old junior senator from New York and mother of two has become a visible face in the Senate, a regular at women’s forums and policy talk shows, and something of a political pinup (The Hill named her one of its 50 most beautiful in 2010). An obscure second-term House member when appointed to fill Clinton’s seat in 2009, she has won election and reelection, both by landslides.

“If Hillary Clinton doesn’t run in 2016, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kirsten Gillibrand jump in,” says Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “Gillibrand seems to have the ambition to do it.


i'm skeered now!
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well well well

The Gillibrand mystique: Is memoir a step along presidential pathway?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]

Telegenic and brainy, the 47-year-old junior senator from New York and mother of two has become a visible face in the Senate, a regular at women’s forums and policy talk shows, and something of a political pinup (The Hill named her one of its 50 most beautiful in 2010). An obscure second-term House member when appointed to fill Clinton’s seat in 2009, she has won election and reelection, both by landslides.

“If Hillary Clinton doesn’t run in 2016, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kirsten Gillibrand jump in,” says Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “Gillibrand seems to have the ambition to do it.


i'm skeered now!
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Huh... how about that.
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the GLP effect, you guys are brilliant.
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"this person claimed to come from the 109th century"

:hmmuahaha: norespect :cuckoo:
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bumpbumpbump

PIN THIS
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Ok this is what she claimed about the next presidents:

45th: Republican (Trump)

46th: Republican

47th: Democrat (Gillibrand? Alcyone states that before the war with China - 2031 - Gillibrand was the president. If that's the case, she will take office by 2028, first mandate most likely, but could be reelection too, only if Trump and his republican successor are both in charge just for one period).

48th: Republican (Aaron Schock? - 2032 most likely, during World War III -, problem is, he just resigned in 2015 as congressman after a scandall. Still, plenty of time to redeem himself perhaps).
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"this person claimed to come from the 109th century"

:hmmuahaha: norespect :cuckoo:
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That's all nice and cute, but I'd love the discussion over the data. Thanks.
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hmm

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"this person claimed to come from the 109th century"

:hmmuahaha: norespect :cuckoo:
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That's all nice and cute, but I'd love the discussion over the data. Thanks.
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Lot's of people think they're aliens it doesn't mean they actually are an in 2009 it wasn't that hard to imagine world war will start in ME, its been building up since 1991.
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"this person claimed to come from the 109th century"

:hmmuahaha: norespect :cuckoo:
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That's all nice and cute, but I'd love the discussion over the data. Thanks.
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Lot's of people think they're aliens it doesn't mean they actually are an in 2009 it wasn't that hard to imagine world war will start in ME, its been building up since 1991.
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Yes but consider this, she claimed that around 2012 a major war will take place in Middle East during 6 years: Syria, since 2011 and still ongoing.

The US and Russia will increase considerably the national debt during the '10s: Correct so far.

A new 'cold war' will emerge between the two countries: many consider that this is what's actually happening.

The next president after Obama will be a republican: Against all the odds, happened.

I must say, that's at least, interesting.
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...so next year somewhere war in Syria ends. Yep, I'd say spring, it would be lovely, It feels like its coming to an end.
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I'll tell you I considered the whole thing at the time a fascinating fiction exercise and nothing else. I was impressed by the constancy, determination and the detail level of her claims during the months this happened, but of course there was no actual evidence associated.

Anyway, at least I'm gonna take 5 minutes and check if anything she said come to pass on this century. So far, so good.
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...so next year somewhere war in Syria ends. Yep, I'd say spring, it would be lovely, It feels like its coming to an end.
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Well we're in a countdown here, if the syrian conflict ends at some point in the next couple of years, we're facing another 'hit'. And I will be impressed.
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Interesting! Good job for finding this!
Keep up the good work!

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So what's next:

- Syrian war should finish in 1-2 years period.

- Another republican should win the White House by 2020 or 2024. The next one is democrat and should be the president that faces the start of WWIII.

- The new 'cold war' with Russia should continue or even increase.

- There should be manned missions to the moon in the 20s and manned missions to Mars in the 30's. The original material claims this:

I do know that the first Lunar landings happened in the 2020s, the Mars landings began in the early 2030s, and the Callisto mission took place in the mid-2040s.

- World War III starts in 2031 mainly between the US and China. During the war, a republican wins the White House and will be the last president before the chinese invasion. This is a nuclear war and got the bigger death toll ever registered in modern times.





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