A so called 'time traveler' maybe made some hits so far...

What about the "me tel you now" thread?

Alcyone lifted some of her dates from the following email. [link to www.sciforums.com]

It seems to refererence both John Titor (2001-2005 as an important time) and Alcyone 2104 (a massive world war and the destruction of the biosphere).

You're misunderstanding the part about presidents, she talked about actual presidents, different people, not the same person being relected. Like I said before, if the scenario described has to be declared correct, the next president after Trump should be also republican, and the next one must be democrat, and must be Gillibrand, independently the number of terms.

If she's elected as president by 2028 (Alcyone clearly stated the Gillibrand being the president as WWIII starts by 2031), you better start packing, it's almost impossible just to guess that one.

Five star thread, OP.

Sorry about all of the low-IQ replies from morons.

Gillibrand will be in 57 in 2024, and 61 in 2028.

Entirely plausible she could become president.

Quick review:

Trump is president either four or eight years, then another Republican (four or eight), then Gillibrand in '24 or '28.

WWIII starts early in her term, then Aaron Schock takes over as a Republican and loses to China.

Our time traveler named REAL political figures in China and the US, who in 2009 were less-known.

I think this is the most likely scenario:

- 46th (Republican) by 2024
- 47th (Democrat) Glillibrand, by 2028

It implies that Trump goes for two terms, but if something happen to him and he doesn't go for a second term, it could be like this:

- 46th (Republican) by 2020
- 46th reelected
- 47th (Democrat) Gillibrand by 2028

or:

- 46th (Republican) by 2020
- 47th (Democrat) Gillibrand by 2024
- 47th reelected

OP, I notice the old 2009 threads have very few replies. it's like no one around here even noticed them, but I see you were replying back then.

I started to interact with Alcyone around May of that year if I recall correctly, she never started a thread at first, she will limit herself to participate in those threads where she apparently felt could make some related input.

Despite I still consider the whole thing a hoax, I must admit her performance was brilliant and consistent. She claimed to have two primary sources of information. The first one being historical data (regarding XXII century, pretty limited because she claimed to come from the 109th century) and the second one being intelligence gathering of agents in this time.

There were some details that will add more 'realism' to her entire participation. Like I said, she will interact almost daily by 6 months, that highly unusual (but not unique) for 'internet roleplayers'; usually they will start a thread, make some outstanding and cryptic claims, will give some replies and eventually will disappear in a matter of days.

Another unusual thing is that she never created threads until a group of people that took interested in what she had to say; despite she claimed over and over againd that her mission was to distribute information regarding the 'Greys' and their masters and their plans for massive hybridization, what people wanted to know, of course, future events. So eventually, she created a couple of threads about that subject.

She always said that her superiors gave to her a house in Florida, where she had to connect to GLP and distribute information. Usually she would asks questions back to the people interacting with her about things she didn't seem to understand, usually pop culture elements/expressions. At some point, she claimed that she started to use the Yahoo search in order to 'learn' about those topics a bit more. Immedatly after that point, she stoppod making those kind of questions.

Another interesting thing I noticed is that when she was posting here, GLP web system will assign her always the same User ID, meaning, she hold a static IP connection at her place. At some point, she claimed to have connection problems and started to post from a library; immediatly after she said that, in fact, her User ID became different from time to time, so most likely indeed she was posting from somewhere else where the IP system was dynamic. Even more interesting was the fact that after she suddenly stopped posting, I will contact her by email (She revealed her email in her public profile after she created a free User account on GLP) and I elaborated a little trick to know if she was at least reading her emails.

Despite she didn't reply back, I used a little tool that will send me an automatic message if she tried to open a link I sent her. That indeed happened at some point after she left GLP, but what I didn't expect honestly is that this little tool will also give me her approximate geographical location. I was like 'huh, how about that?'. And guess what? Indeed, she was reading her emails ... from Florida.

So you see, it was an interesting event happening here on GLP, without any doubt. The amount of original content she delivered is amazing, it's clear that she was using some sort of information source in order to do that, you just don't come up so quickly and daily with so many complexes elements in a narrative just like that. I'm not claiming the information source is 'real', it could be entirely fiction, but it had to exists anyway.

Ok, everything you're saying above is what I've gleaned so far - except I haven't read all of her posts yet.

Some will speculate that you and her are the same person, but that may be expected. You by the same token could also simply be a person highly interested in what she has to say, so this is a "wash".

Is there any reason you started this thread, other than you felt now seven years later there had been some hits?

I do agree that in 2009 much of what she has said is still plausible.

Yes, a Middle East war has been raging, and yes, the presidents and names and timelines all still fit.

A few skeptical posters lit into her because of the China predictions, but I find it entirely plausible. The war, all of it. 100% plausible. I disagree with those who say "Oh China won't be that powerful" and other nonsensical arguments.

A few said "if nuclear war happens no one will be left alive", this too is also nonsense. She did say I believe that 160 million die.

Another skeptic said China and US would never go to war over Taiwan, and this is also nonsense -- and she said she was not certain to begin with that this was the catalyst, but it could easily be the catalyst.

The war would not solely be started over Taiwan, it would simply be a breaking point.

Another skeptic said from 2031 to 2039 is the period between the war and then the invasion, and they said "that is too long", and this too is a nonsensical argument.

I've looked over a lot of the skeptical arguments against her and not many stand up to any scrutiny, and seem based on biases or overreactions.

Now I have to begin reading all of her posts.

Here's one of her posts that is actually 100% correct based on my knowledge -- much of the fear over nukes is overstated, as is 'nuclear winter', and though there is reason to believe 'all nukes' might be launched in an exchange, that is just theory and in practice nukes may be used more tactically. The notion "clean" nukes exists or have been or will be developed is entirely plausible:

"I am not saying that using nuclear weapons is acceptable (my government requires total nuclear disarmament as a condition for any alliance with the United States, due to the serious psychic damage nuclear weapons do, which I have personally experienced when North Korea tested it's nuclear bomb) --however you are exaggerating the environmental effects of nuclear war, and also the willingness of other nations to get involved in a conflict that has escalated to the nuclear level.

Predictions of "nuclear winter" following a nuclear war never actually came true. Furthermore, design improvements (which I think are already in development) greatly reduced the radioactive fallout produced by nuclear bombs. (Ironically, by developing "clean" nuclear weapons, the nuclear nations of your time only ended up encouraging their use.)"

I started this thread after Trump winning the election honestly. I always hold in my mind the key dates and Alcyone's short-term predictions for this century, I was expecting actually to debunk it once for all.

But it turns out apparently we cannot do that yet. Everybody were talking about Clinton winning the election, I mean, the MSM, so I was expecting she to won and finally show Alcyone's data as faulty. But lol, Trump won, how about that?

I'm not this person believe me, if you read the chronological events at that time, actually I was pushing hard in order to make her fail, but I was unable to do so. Time later she left this forum, I learned that around January 2010 she replied a couple of mails coming from another GLP poster. I know that because I talked via email with that person (and no, this person wasn't Alcyone making some other 'online character').

Long story short, apparently she had to leave the forum because their bosses told her so, and later she had to 'return to her time period' in order to get treated because the multiple north korean nuclear tests were messing with her head (she always said that nuclear detonations on a planet will interfere with her people's mind, they're pretty sensitive to them, to the point to even lose conscious for short periods of time).

Keep reading, the whole thing is certainly fascinating. I still have multiple PDFs files I compiled with her replies at that time, if you're interested.

Well I think we need to wait until 2031 and see what happens. Personally, if Gillibrand wins the presidential race by 2028, I think it's logical to asume that Alcyone's information is correct and well, you're fucked up there.

OP

remember traveller in time
or people that could predict the future (astral etc)
or Quantum AI that now probably has capability
to extend the time prediction to 10-12 hour ?

it is intended to shift our intention
u are the one that made the reality

infact u forget the N factor
the Chosen One factor
the dreamer factor

let just focus the positive thing
maybe all nation could resolve the differences
;-)

China can never invade and take over the US. Not even to just the Rockies.

Never ever happen.

We're talking about 15 years into the future, not today.

[link to www.express.co.uk]

From the article:

Unlike the US, however, China can deploy its entire Navy to support an engagement close to home.

The biggest concern, though, is not today but in 20 years’ time when China’s naval expansion programme will have shifted the balance in its favour.

As Seth Cropsey, former deputy undersecretary of the US Navy for presidents Reagan and George W Bush, told me: “If you had said to a US admiral 15 years ago that China would one day possess a ballistic missile capable of hitting an aircraft carrier 1,000 miles away while it was moving, he would have been incredulous.

“It’s enough reason for the US to be much more concerned than it is at present.”

They don't have to invade. They're all ready here. Spend a day here in NYC.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

US general: China's airpower will overtake the US Air Force by 2030

“At the rate they’re building, the models they’re fielding, by 2030 they will have fielded—they will have made up that 2,000 aircraft gap and they will be at least as big—if not bigger—than our air forces," Welsh told the subcommittee.

You are right, sorry, but there is one issue: If the Chinese do conquor the US and have Chinese presidents in place by 2039, then if the US has 4 presidents between now and then, that is only 23 years away.

It means the next 4 presidents possibly have very short terms. If all 4 of then served 8 years, then that would need 32 yrs, (too far out for 2039). If they all serve only 4 years each that is only 16 years (not enough years to get to 2039.) So I wonder which of them have 4 yrs and which have 8?

I am guessing that the demo president (since the country for the next few decades will prob still be leaning repub) would have a short 4 year term.

Edgar Cayce disagrees with that. He says China will invade from the West (over to the Rockies!) except he said it is Russia who invades the US from the East.

Yeah well there are 5 more elections and 3 more presidents to come according to the source. I suspect that Trump won't go for a second term, it's just a feeling, I could be wrong.

The 2012-2018 war is probably the war that broke out after 2012 happened and hence refers to a different timeline.

China would have to subdue Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Southeast Asia, and Australia before their Navy could move East and attack Hawaii and the West coast. They would also likely invade Africa and perhaps the Middle East. That might explain why the war lasted as long as it did.

According to her, there were two active timelines after 2012, the one we're currently living, and the other one caused by the Greys invasion. Since the last didn't happen, I asume we're on tracks on the first timeline.

The war in Middle East could be the syrian conflict, a horrendous civil war that still continues and took the lives of 400.000 people. In any case she always said that their historians were only theorizing about it.

Of course, I still believe she wasn't the real deal, but I cannot dismiss her claims at least until 2028 when a person named Gillibrand should take the oval office.

Timeline is perfectly fine, either one GOP serves two terms, or Democrat serves two terms, the scenario is entirely plausible:

Trump 2016-2020 (or 16-24) (possibly resigns after four years).

Republican president 2020-2024 (or 24-28)

Gillibrand 2024-2032 (or 28-32)

Shock 2032-... war, Chinese president takes over.

OP, do you still believe her?

I picked up a Book by Jeanne Dixon and opened it randomly.

It stated blankly that the U.S. and China would go to war in 2030.

Based on her psychic abilities, I would guess that she was born here and not in the future and her and her employers are natives with precognitive abilities. I strongly suspect that people in the future are more like PCs to our abacus in terms of psychic and cognitive abilities. Stories of Nordics invariably describe them as strongly telepathic and even capable of giving lectures to 100s of people telepathically.

A system of Chinese and American colonies being like reservations on an African dominated Mars couldn't happen if there was a dark age (or any delay of centuries). Mars would already be full of Americans and Chinese and terraformed. The reservations couldn't have lasted more than a few centuries before being absorbed in the general population or migrating to interstellar colonies.

Back in Spring 2015, I had a series of Nazi dreams. In one of them, they expressed an interest in a war around 2104 that killed 1-2 billion people. They seemed to have studied war and concluded that after 4 years people just got tired of killing. I suspect that Alcyone underestimated the death toll and exaggerated any 'dark age' that would follow.

I don't believe her because she didn't present any evidence, period.

But, I must admit that so far things she said seem to go accordinly on what's going on today (syrian war, US and russian national debt, a new 'cold war', the 45th president being republican).

Go back and find her list of members of MJ12.

I don't have time to do it, but it was interesting, the names.
A couple of them have recently died, but I must say that her claim for MJ1 certainly sounds right. If that group exists, the former JCS she listed makes absolute sense based on credentials, member of CFR I think and alfalfa club.

And Kissinger at MJ 5 or so

it is about time to wake the fuck up

time traveler is dumber than flat-earther

give you light speed ship, where do you want to travel? where is NOT now?

when you get there, what time it will be?

are we living is a zoo?