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christians need to think WHAT IF... what if jesus is not messiah

 
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The title of the post falsely assumes all Christians have always believed in Jesus as the Christ their whole lives. When in reality a sizeable number of Christians came to know Jesus sometime later in life. Which means they have already not only considered "what if Jesus was not the messiah", but actually believed He was not.

They came to know Jesus as the Christ through the genuise of the scriptures and the power of the Holy Spirit. You are waisting get your time trying to dissuade Christians. You may have an above IQ, but you are no Match for the genuise and power of God.
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I'm an x Christian . I was a Youth pastor , please Consider the things I'm saying , please consider that The Jews have the scriptures and The Leading
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Please reread my post. What you have proposed has already been considered. Our understanding differs. I declare Jesus as the Christ.
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if he isnt the messiah... the christians hands down are the worst enemies of G-d.

they are blaming his people, FALSLEY
they promote a false man as a king of a nation they are not part of.
they are not really grafted cause he is not the messiah, yet they act as if they are this means they are invanders.
the killed millions and millions of Jews.
they take the teachings of Israel corrupt them and spread them around the world.

these are all acts of war.

christians are in a state of war against G-d and Israel... IF jesus is not the messiah.

IF.

but the christard will say "oh I guess its good that jesus is the messiah"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73453534


I feel you…BUT whenever anyone sincerely seeks to know the truth they can't avoid the avalanche of facts that all point to the one great fact: Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL, King of kings, the absolute TRUTH.

Dr. Michael Brown - Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus - Passion for Truth Ministries

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557933


Not mike brown plz .. That guy just ignoranr
 Quoting: FOY


oh, yes, definitely Mike Brown… YUUUGE truther…

part of a growing movement of Jews who recognize the truth: Jesus is the Messiah.

Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf, one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived:

"Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in every variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard."

"After six years given to the impartial investigation of Christianity as to its truth or falsity, I have come to the deliberate conclusion that Jesus Christ was the Messiah of the Jews, the Savior of the world and my own personal Redeemer." -- General Lew Wallace, one-time atheist, military general and literary genius, who along with Robert Ingersoll agreed together they would write a book that would forever destroy the myth of Christianity. Mr. Wallace studied for two years in the leading libraries of Europe and America for information to destroy Christianity. While writing the second chapter of his book, he suddenly found himself on his knees, crying out, "My Lord and my God." The evidence was overwhelmingly conclusive. Later, Wallace wrote "Ben Hur" one of the greatest Christian novels.
~ General Lew Wallace
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The title of the post falsely assumes all Christians have always believed in Jesus as the Christ their whole lives. When in reality a sizeable number of Christians came to know Jesus sometime later in life. Which means they have already not only considered "what if Jesus was not the messiah", but actually believed He was not.

They came to know Jesus as the Christ through the genuise of the scriptures and the power of the Holy Spirit. You are waisting get your time trying to dissuade Christians. You may have an above IQ, but you are no Match for the genuise and power of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


I'm an x Christian . I was a Youth pastor , please Consider the things I'm saying , please consider that The Jews have the scriptures and The Leading
 Quoting: FOY


Please reread my post. What you have proposed has already been considered. Our understanding differs. I declare Jesus as the Christ.
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But before Paul there was Moses and G-d Told him things

Paul even admits the Jews Have the Scriptures ( to them were given the oracles of God )
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Rabbi Tovia Singer Debates Dr Mike Brown



To Be honest the above video is far more determining than most anyone who is commented so far everyone should watch this video Mike Brown is probably the leading Christian on this topic and rabbi Tobia singer is a leading a Rabbi on this topic watch for yourself this And decide for yourself
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you mean this dude:

Dr. Brown Challenges Rabbi Tovia Singer For A Debate
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if he isnt the messiah... the christians hands down are the worst enemies of G-d.

they are blaming his people, FALSLEY
they promote a false man as a king of a nation they are not part of.
they are not really grafted cause he is not the messiah, yet they act as if they are this means they are invanders.
the killed millions and millions of Jews.
they take the teachings of Israel corrupt them and spread them around the world.

these are all acts of war.

christians are in a state of war against G-d and Israel... IF jesus is not the messiah.

IF.

but the christard will say "oh I guess its good that jesus is the messiah"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73453534


I feel you…BUT whenever anyone sincerely seeks to know the truth they can't avoid the avalanche of facts that all point to the one great fact: Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL, King of kings, the absolute TRUTH.

Dr. Michael Brown - Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus - Passion for Truth Ministries

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557933


Not mike brown plz .. That guy just ignoranr
 Quoting: FOY


oh, yes, definitely Mike Brown… YUUUGE truther…

part of a growing movement of Jews who recognize the truth: Jesus is the Messiah.

Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf, one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived:

"Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in every variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard."

"After six years given to the impartial investigation of Christianity as to its truth or falsity, I have come to the deliberate conclusion that Jesus Christ was the Messiah of the Jews, the Savior of the world and my own personal Redeemer." -- General Lew Wallace, one-time atheist, military general and literary genius, who along with Robert Ingersoll agreed together they would write a book that would forever destroy the myth of Christianity. Mr. Wallace studied for two years in the leading libraries of Europe and America for information to destroy Christianity. While writing the second chapter of his book, he suddenly found himself on his knees, crying out, "My Lord and my God." The evidence was overwhelmingly conclusive. Later, Wallace wrote "Ben Hur" one of the greatest Christian novels.
~ General Lew Wallace
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The only Jews he's tricking are the unlearned .
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That brings up a Good point . Messiah is supposed to reconnect father and child is supposed to be complete peace now according to Jesus himself he didn't come for that he came to split them up therefore proving he's not Messiah
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Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. (Psalm 2.9)
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Re: christians need to think WHAT IF... what if jesus is not messiah
Rabbi Tovia Singer Debates Dr Mike Brown



To Be honest the above video is far more determining than most anyone who is commented so far everyone should watch this video Mike Brown is probably the leading Christian on this topic and rabbi Tobia singer is a leading a Rabbi on this topic watch for yourself this And decide for yourself
 Quoting: FOY


you mean this dude:

Dr. Brown Challenges Rabbi Tovia Singer For A Debate

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557933


I wouldn't debate him because he's ignorant and he's got a shit eating smile

I imagine tovia won't debate him because if you debate a fool sometimes you look a fool besides he debated him 2 what's the needs for more he schooled him 2 times already
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I feel you…BUT whenever anyone sincerely seeks to know the truth they can't avoid the avalanche of facts that all point to the one great fact: Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL, King of kings, the absolute TRUTH.

Dr. Michael Brown - Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus - Passion for Truth Ministries

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557933


Not mike brown plz .. That guy just ignoranr
 Quoting: FOY


oh, yes, definitely Mike Brown… YUUUGE truther…

part of a growing movement of Jews who recognize the truth: Jesus is the Messiah.

Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf, one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived:

"Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in every variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard."

"After six years given to the impartial investigation of Christianity as to its truth or falsity, I have come to the deliberate conclusion that Jesus Christ was the Messiah of the Jews, the Savior of the world and my own personal Redeemer." -- General Lew Wallace, one-time atheist, military general and literary genius, who along with Robert Ingersoll agreed together they would write a book that would forever destroy the myth of Christianity. Mr. Wallace studied for two years in the leading libraries of Europe and America for information to destroy Christianity. While writing the second chapter of his book, he suddenly found himself on his knees, crying out, "My Lord and my God." The evidence was overwhelmingly conclusive. Later, Wallace wrote "Ben Hur" one of the greatest Christian novels.
~ General Lew Wallace
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The only Jews he's tricking are the unlearned .
 Quoting: FOY



not quite, bro


youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB
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Rabbi Tovia Singer Debates Dr Mike Brown



To Be honest the above video is far more determining than most anyone who is commented so far everyone should watch this video Mike Brown is probably the leading Christian on this topic and rabbi Tobia singer is a leading a Rabbi on this topic watch for yourself this And decide for yourself
 Quoting: FOY


you mean this dude:

Dr. Brown Challenges Rabbi Tovia Singer For A Debate

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557933


I wouldn't debate him because he's ignorant and he's got a shit eating smile

I imagine tovia won't debate him because if you debate a fool sometimes you look a fool besides he debated him 2 what's the needs for more he schooled him 2 times already
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sorry: weak argument, bra
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Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.


Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?



I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.


Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.


If you love Me, keep My commandments.


Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


These things I command you, that you love one another.
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

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if he isnt the messiah... the christians hands down are the worst enemies of G-d.

they are blaming his people, FALSLEY
they promote a false man as a king of a nation they are not part of.
they are not really grafted cause he is not the messiah, yet they act as if they are this means they are invanders.
the killed millions and millions of Jews.
they take the teachings of Israel corrupt them and spread them around the world.

these are all acts of war.

christians are in a state of war against G-d and Israel... IF jesus is not the messiah.

IF.

but the christard will say "oh I guess its good that jesus is the messiah"
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Sad that you have been this deceived by demonic influence!
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Rabbi Tovia Singer Debates Dr Mike Brown



To Be honest the above video is far more determining than most anyone who is commented so far everyone should watch this video Mike Brown is probably the leading Christian on this topic and rabbi Tobia singer is a leading a Rabbi on this topic watch for yourself this And decide for yourself
 Quoting: FOY


you mean this dude:

Dr. Brown Challenges Rabbi Tovia Singer For A Debate

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557933


I wouldn't debate him because he's ignorant and he's got a shit eating smile

I imagine tovia won't debate him because if you debate a fool sometimes you look a fool besides he debated him 2 what's the needs for more he schooled him 2 times already
 Quoting: FOY



sorry: weak argument, bra
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557933


Your opinion is useless . Mine is valid , I used a verse from proverbs and a analogy from fighting , if you win 2 in a row you don't get a rubber match .

2 very solid very strong arguments
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Jesus is God.
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"Why do you call me Good?" Jesus

 Quoting: FOY



But Jesus said to him, Follow Me


He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.



And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.


Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


Jesus said to him, If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.


So Jesus said to them, Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!’


And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
Amen.


You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
I do not receive honor from men.
But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you.



For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.


And Jesus said to them, I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.


For I have come down from heaven


Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.


Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?



I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.


Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.


If you love Me, keep My commandments.


Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


These things I command you, that you love one another.
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.


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Re: christians need to think WHAT IF... what if jesus is not messiah
You do know that the Bible has been rewritten, rearranged etc. only for you, to spell out a specific doctrine that you need to abide by and all you silly Christians just eat it up. You are like Oh Jesus said this or that but how do you know? You only know because you read it in a book, edited and arranged to make you believe one way by certain someone. Not naive at all hehe.
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Jesus is God.
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 70714699


"Why do you call me Good?" Jesus

 Quoting: FOY



But Jesus said to him, Follow Me


He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.



And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.


Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


Jesus said to him, If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.


So Jesus said to them, Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!’


And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
Amen.


You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
I do not receive honor from men.
But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you.



For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.


And Jesus said to them, I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.


For I have come down from heaven


Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.


Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?



I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.


Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.


If you love Me, keep My commandments.


Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


These things I command you, that you love one another.
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.


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Well said! Amen!
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Re: christians need to think WHAT IF... what if jesus is not messiah
The title of the post falsely assumes all Christians have always believed in Jesus as the Christ their whole lives. When in reality a sizeable number of Christians came to know Jesus sometime later in life. Which means they have already not only considered "what if Jesus was not the messiah", but actually believed He was not.

They came to know Jesus as the Christ through the genuise of the scriptures and the power of the Holy Spirit. You are waisting get your time trying to dissuade Christians. You may have an above IQ, but you are no Match for the genuise and power of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


I'm an x Christian . I was a Youth pastor , please Consider the things I'm saying , please consider that The Jews have the scriptures and The Leading
 Quoting: FOY


Please reread my post. What you have proposed has already been considered. Our understanding differs. I declare Jesus as the Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


But before Paul there was Moses and G-d Told him things

Paul even admits the Jews Have the Scriptures ( to them were given the oracles of God )
 Quoting: FOY


The sum of your posts is that I should reject Jesus and join you in wait for some other messiah. Tell me, who is this future messiah?
Will he be a regular man? Will he be greater than Moses? How will we know he is the messiah? Does he have to fulfill messianic scriptures? Or is cessation of wars and economic prosperity his only critera?
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Claim: FOY, you have had homosexual relations.
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I'm an x Christian . I was a Youth pastor , please Consider the things I'm saying , please consider that The Jews have the scriptures and The Leading
 Quoting: FOY


Please reread my post. What you have proposed has already been considered. Our understanding differs. I declare Jesus as the Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


But before Paul there was Moses and G-d Told him things

Paul even admits the Jews Have the Scriptures ( to them were given the oracles of God )
 Quoting: FOY


The sum of your posts is that I should reject Jesus and join you in wait for some other messiah. Tell me, who is this future messiah?
Will he be a regular man? Will he be greater than Moses? How will we know he is the messiah? Does he have to fulfill messianic scriptures? Or is cessation of wars and economic prosperity his only critera?
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:) my understanding is he Will be A Man But the Best man ever Yes Greater than Moses even . We will know because the messianic age will be here for more on that YouTube Messianic age Rabbi Tovia singer

Will he fulfill scripture ? Yes

I truly Wish You the Best With your Journey in this life I Pray G-d will lead you and you will follow .

I'm here for your questions but there only so much I can do , and I've seen others know the same things I know but not change . I put you in G-ds hands is that okay ? Put these things in G-ds hands in your prayers and Pray G-d tells you which way to go ? Fair?
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Claim: FOY, you have had homosexual relations.
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No never , who claims such lies?

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Claim: FOY, you have had homosexual relations.
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No never , who claims such lies?
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You laxity suggests this.
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Here we go again...Abrahamaic faiths bickering amongst each other instead of seeing the bigger picture. I believe Jesus is the Messiah and yet as a Muslim I do not believe that he is God incarnate but does these debates really matter at the present time ? As believers in the God of Abraham there are matters that are much more urgent such as protecting the sanctity of the family, countering the secular materialistic agenda, finsing innovative ways to provide for people starving around the globe, getting our youth interested in spirituality instead of being mere consumers...I am not telling you to accept the other's belief as true but can't you all just find a common ground and try to fix the World before it is to late ?
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Please reread my post. What you have proposed has already been considered. Our understanding differs. I declare Jesus as the Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


But before Paul there was Moses and G-d Told him things

Paul even admits the Jews Have the Scriptures ( to them were given the oracles of God )
 Quoting: FOY


The sum of your posts is that I should reject Jesus and join you in wait for some other messiah. Tell me, who is this future messiah?
Will he be a regular man? Will he be greater than Moses? How will we know he is the messiah? Does he have to fulfill messianic scriptures? Or is cessation of wars and economic prosperity his only critera?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


:) my understanding is he Will be A Man But the Best man ever Yes Greater than Moses even . We will know because the messianic age will be here for more on that YouTube Messianic age Rabbi Tovia singer

Will he fulfill scripture ? Yes

I truly Wish You the Best With your Journey in this life I Pray G-d will lead you and you will follow .

I'm here for your questions but there only so much I can do , and I've seen others know the same things I know but not change . I put you in G-ds hands is that okay ? Put these things in G-ds hands in your prayers and Pray G-d tells you which way to go ? Fair?
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Can you be more specific with some of the scriptures he will fulfill?
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Here we go again...Abrahamaic faiths bickering amongst each other instead of seeing the bigger picture. I believe Jesus is the Messiah and yet as a Muslim I do not believe that he is God incarnate but does these debates really matter at the present time ? As believers in the God of Abraham there are matters that are much more urgent such as protecting the sanctity of the family, countering the secular materialistic agenda, finsing innovative ways to provide for people starving around the globe, getting our youth interested in spirituality instead of being mere consumers...I am not telling you to accept the other's belief as true but can't you all just find a common ground and try to fix the World before it is to late ?
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You Algerian? I'm Tunisian.

Allah isn't the god of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob.
Allah doesn't mean "the God", that would be "al-ilah".
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Israel needs to think, what if he is?
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Here we go again...Abrahamaic faiths bickering amongst each other instead of seeing the bigger picture. I believe Jesus is the Messiah and yet as a Muslim I do not believe that he is God incarnate but does these debates really matter at the present time ? As believers in the God of Abraham there are matters that are much more urgent such as protecting the sanctity of the family, countering the secular materialistic agenda, finsing innovative ways to provide for people starving around the globe, getting our youth interested in spirituality instead of being mere consumers...I am not telling you to accept the other's belief as true but can't you all just find a common ground and try to fix the World before it is to late ?
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You Algerian? I'm Tunisian.

Allah isn't the god of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob.
Allah doesn't mean "the God", that would be "al-ilah".
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Nope neither Algerian nor Tunisian nor North African or any of your assumptions based on the fact that I am currently in France. As for your statements, I will not correct your claim that are linguistically wrong as I have said there are more important matters than childish bickering.
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I'm lax on a lot of things but not homosexual things . it seems to my knowledge that's condemned as an abomination in the Torah .

But even if it wasn't condenmed like before I was even religious it always grossed me out. That's me , I only Like Women sexually
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Here we go again...Abrahamaic faiths bickering amongst each other instead of seeing the bigger picture. I believe Jesus is the Messiah and yet as a Muslim I do not believe that he is God incarnate but does these debates really matter at the present time ? As believers in the God of Abraham there are matters that are much more urgent such as protecting the sanctity of the family, countering the secular materialistic agenda, finsing innovative ways to provide for people starving around the globe, getting our youth interested in spirituality instead of being mere consumers...I am not telling you to accept the other's belief as true but can't you all just find a common ground and try to fix the World before it is to late ?
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You Algerian? I'm Tunisian.

Allah isn't the god of Abraham, of Isaac, of Jacob.
Allah doesn't mean "the God", that would be "al-ilah".
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Nope neither Algerian nor Tunisian nor North African or any of your assumptions based on the fact that I am currently in France. As for your statements, I will not correct your claim that are linguistically wrong as I have said there are more important matters than childish bickering.
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I read and speak Arabic. Allah has no meaning whatsoever in Arabic. The god is rendered as al-Ilah not as Allah.
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But before Paul there was Moses and G-d Told him things

Paul even admits the Jews Have the Scriptures ( to them were given the oracles of God )
 Quoting: FOY


The sum of your posts is that I should reject Jesus and join you in wait for some other messiah. Tell me, who is this future messiah?
Will he be a regular man? Will he be greater than Moses? How will we know he is the messiah? Does he have to fulfill messianic scriptures? Or is cessation of wars and economic prosperity his only critera?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


:) my understanding is he Will be A Man But the Best man ever Yes Greater than Moses even . We will know because the messianic age will be here for more on that YouTube Messianic age Rabbi Tovia singer

Will he fulfill scripture ? Yes

I truly Wish You the Best With your Journey in this life I Pray G-d will lead you and you will follow .

I'm here for your questions but there only so much I can do , and I've seen others know the same things I know but not change . I put you in G-ds hands is that okay ? Put these things in G-ds hands in your prayers and Pray G-d tells you which way to go ? Fair?
 Quoting: FOY


Can you be more specific with some of the scriptures he will fulfill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


To be honest the Best thing I can do for you is Direct you To Tenak talk On YouTube , there is hour after hour of Rabbi's going over this in detail .

It would also help you to know the Things Jesus Supposedly fulfilled are mostly contrived or applied after the fact
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The sum of your posts is that I should reject Jesus and join you in wait for some other messiah. Tell me, who is this future messiah?
Will he be a regular man? Will he be greater than Moses? How will we know he is the messiah? Does he have to fulfill messianic scriptures? Or is cessation of wars and economic prosperity his only critera?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


:) my understanding is he Will be A Man But the Best man ever Yes Greater than Moses even . We will know because the messianic age will be here for more on that YouTube Messianic age Rabbi Tovia singer

Will he fulfill scripture ? Yes

I truly Wish You the Best With your Journey in this life I Pray G-d will lead you and you will follow .

I'm here for your questions but there only so much I can do , and I've seen others know the same things I know but not change . I put you in G-ds hands is that okay ? Put these things in G-ds hands in your prayers and Pray G-d tells you which way to go ? Fair?
 Quoting: FOY


Can you be more specific with some of the scriptures he will fulfill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


To be honest the Best thing I can do for you is Direct you To Tenak talk On YouTube , there is hour after hour of Rabbi's going over this in detail .

It would also help you to know the Things Jesus Supposedly fulfilled are mostly contrived or applied after the fact
 Quoting: FOY


Give a prophet, I show you where is Jesus in it.

(I apologize for having suspected laxity-related homosexuality on your part).
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:) my understanding is he Will be A Man But the Best man ever Yes Greater than Moses even . We will know because the messianic age will be here for more on that YouTube Messianic age Rabbi Tovia singer

Will he fulfill scripture ? Yes

I truly Wish You the Best With your Journey in this life I Pray G-d will lead you and you will follow .

I'm here for your questions but there only so much I can do , and I've seen others know the same things I know but not change . I put you in G-ds hands is that okay ? Put these things in G-ds hands in your prayers and Pray G-d tells you which way to go ? Fair?
 Quoting: FOY


Can you be more specific with some of the scriptures he will fulfill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70256005


To be honest the Best thing I can do for you is Direct you To Tenak talk On YouTube , there is hour after hour of Rabbi's going over this in detail .

It would also help you to know the Things Jesus Supposedly fulfilled are mostly contrived or applied after the fact
 Quoting: FOY


Give a prophet, I show you where is Jesus in it.

(I apologize for having suspected laxity-related homosexuality on your part).
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 73456314


I forgive you .

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