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christians need to think WHAT IF... what if jesus is not messiah

 
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Besides, did he deny his being God?

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. (Mark 10.18)

I ask, where is the denial, if he and the Father are one?
This perhaps?:

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. (John 14.28)

What is God's name already? It is "I become" or "I am, I was, I am to come". Isn't "I am to come" a father to "I am", or the other way around perhaps, because "I am to come" proceeds from "I am"? And yet they are still the I of God i.e., the Son.

You will bow before Jesus, whether willfully or not.
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The young mans interpretation was Yes he denied it . Also key to point out is Jesus says follow commandments , not believe in my death and resurrection
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Whence this?
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But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
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I don't believe Jesus has that power
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Thats not a power. It's denial of person before God. What you meant to say was: Jesus is not important and God does not listen to him

What you actually said was: im more important than Jesus and God listens to me and not Jesus
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So your ok with some man deciding these things ?
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Isnt Moses some man? Arent all prophets

But God send Jesus into this world to be our saviour
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I don't believe Jesus has that power
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Thats not a power. It's denial of person before God. What you meant to say was: Jesus is not important and God does not listen to him

What you actually said was: im more important than Jesus and God listens to me and not Jesus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70598998


So your ok with some man deciding these things ?
 Quoting: FOY


Isnt Moses some man? Arent all prophets

But God send Jesus into this world to be our saviour
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I aint worried about nothing
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Besides, did he deny his being God?

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. (Mark 10.18)

I ask, where is the denial, if he and the Father are one?
This perhaps?:

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. (John 14.28)

What is God's name already? It is "I become" or "I am, I was, I am to come". Isn't "I am to come" a father to "I am", or the other way around perhaps, because "I am to come" proceeds from "I am"? And yet they are still the I of God i.e., the Son.

You will bow before Jesus, whether willfully or not.
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 69375422


The young mans interpretation was Yes he denied it . Also key to point out is Jesus says follow commandments , not believe in my death and resurrection
 Quoting: FOY


Whence this?
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 69375422


Ok notice he calls him Good teacher then Jesus rebukes him notice thereafter he only calls him teacher he drops the Good
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Thats not a power. It's denial of person before God. What you meant to say was: Jesus is not important and God does not listen to him

What you actually said was: im more important than Jesus and God listens to me and not Jesus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70598998


So your ok with some man deciding these things ?
 Quoting: FOY


Isnt Moses some man? Arent all prophets

But God send Jesus into this world to be our saviour
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70598998


I aint worried about nothing
 Quoting: FOY


You will start today.
What is the golden menorah an image and likeness of? Beware, you err, you die. Twice.
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I don't remember Moses saying He was gonna deny people in front of G-d
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Thats not a power. It's denial of person before God. What you meant to say was: Jesus is not important and God does not listen to him

What you actually said was: im more important than Jesus and God listens to me and not Jesus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70598998


So your ok with some man deciding these things ?
 Quoting: FOY


Isnt Moses some man? Arent all prophets

But God send Jesus into this world to be our saviour
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70598998


I aint worried about nothing
 Quoting: FOY


Taking proper consideration for the future i see

I know this is futile, because i assume next to your refusal of Christ you probably denied the spirit too. Likely thought it was a cool thing to do

Hopefuly mono can see light of day still
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I don't remember Moses saying He was gonna deny people in front of G-d
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Moses isn't God's face, Jesus is.
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So your ok with some man deciding these things ?
 Quoting: FOY


Isnt Moses some man? Arent all prophets

But God send Jesus into this world to be our saviour
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70598998


I aint worried about nothing
 Quoting: FOY


Taking proper consideration for the future i see

I know this is futile, because i assume next to your refusal of Christ you probably denied the spirit too. Likely thought it was a cool thing to do

Hopefuly mono can see light of day still
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Ain't worried about Buddhism either or denying anything nothing's unforgivable nothing
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Isnt Moses some man? Arent all prophets

But God send Jesus into this world to be our saviour
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70598998


I aint worried about nothing
 Quoting: FOY


Taking proper consideration for the future i see

I know this is futile, because i assume next to your refusal of Christ you probably denied the spirit too. Likely thought it was a cool thing to do

Hopefuly mono can see light of day still
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70598998


Ain't worried about Buddhism either or denying anything nothing's unforgivable nothing
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Are you posing with devil horns on pictures too? cruise
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A friend of mine who's heavy in Buddha says That unforgivable thing came from there ..
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Nah I try to be the Best I can .

You definitely Need Humbling boy
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A friend of mine who's heavy in Buddha says That unforgivable thing came from there ..
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Tao has alot of common with the bible

An expert buddhist is likely a God fearing man(regardless of how he images God), or he failed in all aspects of buddhism
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I put it in G-d hand to do that
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I put it in G-d hand to do that
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Cant wait for your next ten Christ refusal threads.
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I put it in G-d hand to do that
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Cant wait for your next ten Christ refusal threads.
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Never made one don't plan2
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1 in 10 pages now...
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Jesus is God.
 Quoting: Sheshbazzar 70714699


"Why do you call me Good?" Jesus
 Quoting: FOY


But Jesus said to him, Follow Me


He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.



And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.


Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


Jesus said to him, If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.


So Jesus said to them, Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!’ 


And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
Amen.

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That brings up a Good point . Messiah is supposed to reconnect father and child is supposed to be complete peace now according to Jesus himself he didn't come for that he came to split them up therefore proving he's not Messiah
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But Jesus said to him, Follow Me


He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.



And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.


Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


Jesus said to him, If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.


So Jesus said to them, Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!’


And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
Amen.

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Jesus is God.
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"Why do you call me Good?" Jesus

 Quoting: FOY
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The title of the post falsely assumes all Christians have always believed in Jesus as the Christ their whole lives. When in reality a sizeable number of Christians came to know Jesus sometime later in life. Which means they have already not only considered "what if Jesus was not the messiah", but actually believed He was not.

They came to know Jesus as the Christ through the genuise of the scriptures and the power of the Holy Spirit. You are waisting get your time trying to dissuade Christians. You may have an above IQ, but you are no Match for the genuise and power of God.
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if he isnt the messiah... the christians hands down are the worst enemies of G-d.

they are blaming his people, FALSLEY
they promote a false man as a king of a nation they are not part of.
they are not really grafted cause he is not the messiah, yet they act as if they are this means they are invanders.
the killed millions and millions of Jews.
they take the teachings of Israel corrupt them and spread them around the world.

these are all acts of war.

christians are in a state of war against G-d and Israel... IF jesus is not the messiah.

IF.

but the christard will say "oh I guess its good that jesus is the messiah"
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I feel you…BUT whenever anyone sincerely seeks to know the truth they can't avoid the avalanche of facts that all point to the one great fact: Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL, King of kings, the absolute TRUTH.

Dr. Michael Brown - Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus - Passion for Truth Ministries
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The title of the post falsely assumes all Christians have always believed in Jesus as the Christ their whole lives. When in reality a sizeable number of Christians came to know Jesus sometime later in life. Which means they have already not only considered "what if Jesus was not the messiah", but actually believed He was not.

They came to know Jesus as the Christ through the genuise of the scriptures and the power of the Holy Spirit. You are waisting get your time trying to dissuade Christians. You may have an above IQ, but you are no Match for the genuise and power of God.
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I'm an x Christian . I was a Youth pastor , please Consider the things I'm saying , please consider that The Jews have the scriptures and The Leading
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if he isnt the messiah... the christians hands down are the worst enemies of G-d.

they are blaming his people, FALSLEY
they promote a false man as a king of a nation they are not part of.
they are not really grafted cause he is not the messiah, yet they act as if they are this means they are invanders.
the killed millions and millions of Jews.
they take the teachings of Israel corrupt them and spread them around the world.

these are all acts of war.

christians are in a state of war against G-d and Israel... IF jesus is not the messiah.

IF.

but the christard will say "oh I guess its good that jesus is the messiah"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73453534


I feel you…BUT whenever anyone sincerely seeks to know the truth they can't avoid the avalanche of facts that all point to the one great fact: Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL, King of kings, the absolute TRUTH.

Dr. Michael Brown - Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus - Passion for Truth Ministries

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Not mike brown plz .. That guy just ignoranr
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You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
I do not receive honor from men.
But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you.


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For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.
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And Jesus said to them, I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
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For I have come down from heaven
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Re: christians need to think WHAT IF... what if jesus is not messiah
Rabbi Tovia Singer Debates Dr Mike Brown



To Be honest the above video is far more determining than most anyone who is commented so far everyone should watch this video Mike Brown is probably the leading Christian on this topic and rabbi Tobia singer is a leading a Rabbi on this topic watch for yourself this And decide for yourself
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But notice how mike Ignores Things.

He's not honest with himself that's my small opinion
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