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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73190992 Canada 11/26/2016 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Life is such unutterable hell, solely because it is sometimes beautiful. If we could only be miserable all the time, if there could be no such things as love or beauty or faith or hope, if I could be absolutely certain that my love would never be returned: how much more simple life would be. One could plod through the Siberian salt mines of existence without being bothered about happiness. Unfortunately the happiness is there. There is always the chance (about eight hundred and fifty to one) that another heart will come to mine. I can't help hoping, and keeping faith, and loving beauty. Quite frequently I am not so miserable as it would be wise to be.” - T. H. White Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican. Why do we crave that which will destroy us (e.g. as an addict)? Why do we long for that which we cannot have (e.g. unrequited love)? Why do we long to become a better version of ourselves but can’t ever reach satisfaction or a state of contentedness with who we are? Why is love, even self love, beyond the grasp of so many of us tortured souls? Is this hell? The Buddha says desire leads to suffering and that is all we do from the moment we enter this realm. Desire without cease. And even the Bible says desire leads to sin and sin leads to death. We sin because we desire. We die because we desire. We live only to desire and to desire more and more. What a twisted web we weave as human beings. Will we ever find enough? It's chemicals in the brain like Dopamine dumbass. |
Deplorable-Elect Don Solo User ID: 73168454 United States 11/26/2016 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71232579 United States 11/26/2016 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A half azzed poem by me written a few years ago about human longing. I'll be 70 in a few months and it still holds true. My thoughts rush outward, And are parted. Deflected by my longings, Like water, flowing round my sun-browned ankles, Rushing back down the beach to the sea. Foam crested waves, heavy with salt and promise, Caressed me in the days of my youth, Barefoot in the sand. Hope burned as brightly then as sunlight, Reflected in shards of brilliance off a wave’s crest. And the nights came gently then, the sea breeze, Brushing lightly, and with myriad hands, At my salt encrusted skin. I longed to know who my love would be, Barefoot in the sand. Then storms blew in to sweep the beaches clean. They cleared the sand, scoured clean the footprints left by me, Eroding away the carefully crafted sandcastles of my dreams. The eternal sea… brutal, treacherous, uncaring. Teaching lessons in humility, A painful thing for a hopeful boy. I’ve sometimes wept, Barefoot in the sand. I brush at my eyes and wonder, now, At the bitterness left on my tongue by life’s tides. How, naked and abraded, each receding wave, Has dropped me bleeding on the beach. But still I hope, when memory’s undimmed eye yet sees, The hopes that filled the boy I was, Barefoot in the sand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73492743 Bulgaria 11/26/2016 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get it. Been suffering for years, basically all my "little" problems added up (headaches/migraines/various pain/discomfort/OCD/bad constpipation/depression/inability to feel "anthing" good). I'll feel shit for ages and finally get used to it and able to tolerate it enough to shrug it off and just "get on with things." Then BOOM as if by magic I'll randomly have a good day (for seemingly NO REASON) and just like that my tolerance resets and it'sack to suffering again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73491107 It's a trick There is so much energy in pain to be sucked off. We are animals in intensive farming factories. The only ones interested on us are the entities who suck off our life. We are lured to make an extra mile and then we get another kick in the head. |
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Deplorable Ralph--a house dog User ID: 69671725 United States 11/26/2016 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The less I desire, the more content I am with life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72851168 And the less shit I get done, so then I'm forced to start desiring again. To be content without being complacent is a good balance to aim for. "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
TheCorsair00 User ID: 72020459 Canada 11/26/2016 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to buddhism.about.com] Hungry Ghosts (Pretas) are pitable things. They are wasted creatures with huge, empty stomachs. Their necks are too thin to allow food to pass. So, they are constantly hungry. Greed and jealousy lead to rebirth as a Hungry Ghost. The Hungry Ghost Realm often, but not always, is depicted between the Asura Realm and the Hell Realm. It is thought the karma of their lives was not quite bad enough for a rebirth in the Hell Realm but not good enough for the Asura Realm. Psychologically, Hungry Ghosts are associated with addictions, compulsions and obsessions. People who have everything but always want more may be Hungry Ghosts. |
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Utmost Deplorable Publican. (OP) User ID: 8407188 United States 11/26/2016 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread resonates a lot. Had a pretty mad night last night. A bad emotional breakdown. Thank you for making me feel less alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73478520 I'm so glad that it was able to resonate and to offer you that chance to feel less alone, friend. That alone makes it all worth it. visit my blog die spammeroAz9cP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73478520 Ireland 11/26/2016 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread resonates a lot. Had a pretty mad night last night. A bad emotional breakdown. Thank you for making me feel less alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73478520 I'm so glad that it was able to resonate and to offer you that chance to feel less alone, friend. That alone makes it all worth it. Thank you and God bless you friend. |
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Manjushri User ID: 73318450 United States 11/26/2016 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not desire or the object of desire that causes suffering- it is your ATTACHMENT to the object that is the problem- no attachment- patient acceptance = No problem. Desire is the universe, desrielessness is liberation- desire is creation- find the middle way |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73493051 United Arab Emirates 11/26/2016 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quote: Will we ever find enough? Maybe that's what we are here to learn/experience/figure out. I am quite content with what I have...my brother has many multiples of what I have & it will never be enough for him. More than anything else, I truely love/enjoy fishing! I'm always after a bigger fish than I had ever caught before. But NOTHING gave me more satisfaction and gratification than to hook that elusive MONSTER tiger-muskie & hand the rod to my 10 year old nephew! :) It took him about 25 minutes to land the thing. You should have seen it! I held the fish up for a pic & it was almost as tall as my nephew...then we threw him back. As of this day, I still have not caught a fish that big...and I don't regret it or a second! |
Lester User ID: 73493212 United States 11/26/2016 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gonna live in this world on the basis of self-will? Then sorrow and disappointment will be your lot. Choose to identify with the chaos and sickness others choose to live their lives by? IE, "popular" authors, film, and songs... Then you bind your life to the suffering others have induced and made profit from under guise of "art" or literature. The idea of romantic love has been very corrupted. The more introverted and perverted one is, the more they are likely to attract the same. Self-willed persons don't sacrifice or seek to understand others, much less live comfortably with others. Alienation from God causes despair, pain, and mental health aberrations. The world is not aligned with God. Men have free-will and for the decades since WW-1 have been conditioned towards greater alienation in most art & literature. Sickness and perversion has been fostered and foisted upon Western Society as "the norm" and condition of living on the plane of fashion and normality to be strived for. The so-called "mental-health sciences" attract sick minds who seek their own understanding, but alienated from God themselves, they perpetrate sickness and perversion as norms by endorsing acceptance and diversity. In a world with no values or love for others, there can be no love for self; much less Love For God or others. The human condition driven by self-will and fear is caused by alienation from God. Men choose to deny God and seek satisfactions defined by others. They are surprised and feel betrayed when they don't find what they expect. It is self that betrays us and brings misery on so many levels. If you would live in happiness and with confidence, turn to God! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 11/26/2016 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you are defining as "human longing" (or what TH White defines) is not "longing" at all, but rather self-pity.... Quoting: Lester 73493212 Gonna live in this world on the basis of self-will? Then sorrow and disappointment will be your lot. Choose to identify with the chaos and sickness others choose to live their lives by? IE, "popular" authors, film, and songs... Then you bind your life to the suffering others have induced and made profit from under guise of "art" or literature. The idea of romantic love has been very corrupted. The more introverted and perverted one is, the more they are likely to attract the same. Self-willed persons don't sacrifice or seek to understand others, much less live comfortably with others. Alienation from God causes despair, pain, and mental health aberrations. The world is not aligned with God. Men have free-will and for the decades since WW-1 have been conditioned towards greater alienation in most art & literature. Sickness and perversion has been fostered and foisted upon Western Society as "the norm" and condition of living on the plane of fashion and normality to be strived for. The so-called "mental-health sciences" attract sick minds who seek their own understanding, but alienated from God themselves, they perpetrate sickness and perversion as norms by endorsing acceptance and diversity. In a world with no values or love for others, there can be no love for self; much less Love For God or others. The human condition driven by self-will and fear is caused by alienation from God. Men choose to deny God and seek satisfactions defined by others. They are surprised and feel betrayed when they don't find what they expect. It is self that betrays us and brings misery on so many levels. If you would live in happiness and with confidence, turn to God! I choose to deny there is the possibility of the knowledge of god from those who are alive in this reality. I would describe myself as a very content and maybe even 'happy' person. When others try to explain the events of this world by claiming direct influence from either the devil or god, I get pissed at such brainwashing. That would suggest that I am an agent of evil, no? How do you explain my lack of misery? |
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SeoKungFu User ID: 66943469 Bulgaria 11/26/2016 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that the root cause is not even desire, but attachments that lead to the insatiable and never fulfilled yearnings and disappointments. "Have a vision of life that inspires you, then try every day to grow closer to the fulfillment of that vision." Deepak Chopra Cetrified Moran on a Divine Mission ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52046847 Canada 11/26/2016 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you are defining as "human longing" (or what TH White defines) is not "longing" at all, but rather self-pity.... Quoting: Lester 73493212 Gonna live in this world on the basis of self-will? Then sorrow and disappointment will be your lot. Choose to identify with the chaos and sickness others choose to live their lives by? IE, "popular" authors, film, and songs... Then you bind your life to the suffering others have induced and made profit from under guise of "art" or literature. The idea of romantic love has been very corrupted. The more introverted and perverted one is, the more they are likely to attract the same. Self-willed persons don't sacrifice or seek to understand others, much less live comfortably with others. Alienation from God causes despair, pain, and mental health aberrations. The world is not aligned with God. Men have free-will and for the decades since WW-1 have been conditioned towards greater alienation in most art & literature. Sickness and perversion has been fostered and foisted upon Western Society as "the norm" and condition of living on the plane of fashion and normality to be strived for. The so-called "mental-health sciences" attract sick minds who seek their own understanding, but alienated from God themselves, they perpetrate sickness and perversion as norms by endorsing acceptance and diversity. In a world with no values or love for others, there can be no love for self; much less Love For God or others. The human condition driven by self-will and fear is caused by alienation from God. Men choose to deny God and seek satisfactions defined by others. They are surprised and feel betrayed when they don't find what they expect. It is self that betrays us and brings misery on so many levels. If you would live in happiness and with confidence, turn to God! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS |
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-Haun- User ID: 67105399 United States 11/26/2016 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm driving on a long haul right now but I'm very thrilled to read all the amazing replies and appreciate this deep and introspective conversation. Be blessed! Quoting: Utmost Deplorable Publican. Dude, somewhere there is a box with your name on it filled with stuff you and I talked about privately that you needed. At this rate you should get it sometime when you're about forty lol. Dunno how many times you moved but package tracking lost sight of it. Could be it was opened at the homeless shelter and contents dispersed after you left. Anyway, glad to hear things look much brighter for you and I wish you all the best. God bless. |
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Wondering Mind User ID: 73265267 United States 11/26/2016 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True we would be zombies and putty for the calculative minds to feast and fatten on. Placid will is dead of hope. It becomes inanimate objected minded and in so surrenders it soul to the material matters that own its way of being and life. It is a liability unto its self and others rights of individual judgment and life ownership of their own life. We become lowered to the form of the beasts of the field, that are beasts of burden unto the fields they work in and for. It sounds very communist to the strictest forms and enslavement of men's hearts, souls and minds, by voiding them out for their loss of control of their own being or control of its way. Like bridle, muzzle and chains just lick rocks and think no more until your die and then you may know what none living knows, but only imagine is there for all. Foolish way of life and living simple as a beast the man would need to lower himself down to Last Edited by Wondering Mind on 11/26/2016 02:30 PM The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |
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Sunny Daze User ID: 59490123 United States 11/26/2016 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the sun shines on us ALL the rain falls on us ALL all are equal in the eyes of our Creator - no one is rejected or judged for how they use their free will your "longings" for things is a personal problem, not based in reality, because you can achieve any thing your mind can conceive ... if you give it enough energy - all things are possible |