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Oops! Jill Stein Must Prove Voter Fraud In Court To Recount Pennsylvania | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45163553  United States11/27/2016 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oops. Jill Stein forgot to mention to her donors that she cannot file a direct request for a recount in Pennsylvania.  Stein did not make the recount process clear for her donors. Her outline makes it sound as though a candidate can simply file for a recount if they raise enough funds for the filing fee. Stein would have to present a case showing voter fraud took place. Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud. [link to www.inquisitr.com]  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 59923600 United States11/27/2016 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oops. Jill Stein forgot to mention to her donors that she cannot file a direct request for a recount in Pennsylvania. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45163553 Stein did not make the recount process clear for her donors. Her outline makes it sound as though a candidate can simply file for a recount if they raise enough funds for the filing fee. Stein would have to present a case showing voter fraud took place. Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud. [link to www.inquisitr.com] Michigan has similar laws. You have to show evidence of actual fraud or miscounting of votes before your petition can be granted. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73484765 United States11/27/2016 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oops. Jill Stein forgot to mention to her donors that she cannot file a direct request for a recount in Pennsylvania. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45163553 Stein did not make the recount process clear for her donors. Her outline makes it sound as though a candidate can simply file for a recount if they raise enough funds for the filing fee. Stein would have to present a case showing voter fraud took place. Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud. [link to www.inquisitr.com] Which judges would rule on that...FEDERAL JUDGES? Almost all the Federal Judges now on the bench were appointed by Clinton, Bush, or Obama. See what kind of trouble we're in? |
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MR.GGG  User ID: 72805733  Canada11/27/2016 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And Michigan has already had a full paper RECOUNT. There is NO WAY any judge is going to order a THIRD. Jillie MAY be left hold the bag on what could be a major case of FRAUD. If she was dumb / greedy enough to fall for this it'll look good on her. Maybe to save her ass she'll chirp like a birdie and implicate the Clintons, the Foundation and creeps like soros. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72450676 United States11/27/2016 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oops. Jill Stein forgot to mention to her donors that she cannot file a direct request for a recount in Pennsylvania. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45163553 Stein did not make the recount process clear for her donors. Her outline makes it sound as though a candidate can simply file for a recount if they raise enough funds for the filing fee. Stein would have to present a case showing voter fraud took place. Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud. [link to www.inquisitr.com] Which judges would rule on that...FEDERAL JUDGES? Almost all the Federal Judges now on the bench were appointed by Clinton, Bush, or Obama. See what kind of trouble we're in? Pennsylvania state election law. Pennsylvania state judge would rule. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50023508 United States11/27/2016 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful what you wish for... trumps imaginary coalition is starting to unravel every day Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71059862 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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| me777 User ID: 13744341 Canada11/27/2016 01:26 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Subscribe to my blog: Exposing The Darkness End times headline news. Research and analysis of world events in light of Bible prophecy. [link to lionessofjudah.substack.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45163553 United States11/27/2016 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful what you wish for... trumps imaginary coalition is starting to unravel every day Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71059862 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] But illegal immigrants would vote for Hillary. So, if court allowed a recount in Pennsylvania and deducted the illegal votes it would show Trump won by an even greater margin |
| Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 73221749 Canada11/27/2016 01:29 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Wondering Mind User ID: 73265267 United States11/27/2016 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And Michigan has already had a full paper RECOUNT. There is NO WAY any judge is going to order a THIRD. Quoting: MR.GGG Jillie MAY be left hold the bag on what could be a major case of FRAUD. If she was dumb / greedy enough to fall for this it'll look good on her. Maybe to save her ass she'll chirp like a birdie and implicate the Clintons, the Foundation and creeps like soros. Yea, they are wanting money to pay for their protests in our states. Even If I do not like what my state voted for, it was made legal by our Governor to allow them to vote, they would not have been able to vote without that fast tracking prison people deal. Yet the other states did not have the issues they are being accused of. If not for all the other states and electoral voters we would not have had a chance of getting Trump for President. Thank God there were many many Trump and Republican voters out there. She should buzz off. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |
| Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 73221749 Canada11/27/2016 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful what you wish for... trumps imaginary coalition is starting to unravel every day Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71059862 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] I asked a question on the thread linked. Number 1 scenario, what this seemed to mean, was that 5000 votes beyond the number of actual voters of any party that existed in the area, were taken off as some kind of error. (When we all know these states took their time, MI the longest, and seemed to be up to something.) But someone suggested that instead of this, they took 5000 votes away that were registered democrats changing their minds, no doubt due to the criminal natures of the Clintons? Does anyone here know which way this went because the idea of stealing votes away from those who woke up, would be really wrong! Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 11/27/2016 01:42 AM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
| Deplorable dollop You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 73293864 United States11/27/2016 01:43 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oops. Jill Stein forgot to mention to her donors that she cannot file a direct request for a recount in Pennsylvania. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45163553 Stein did not make the recount process clear for her donors. Her outline makes it sound as though a candidate can simply file for a recount if they raise enough funds for the filing fee. Stein would have to present a case showing voter fraud took place. Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud. [link to www.inquisitr.com]  lol! Hillary is so finished she has become the burnt Turkey of Thanksgiving.Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 11/27/2016 01:44 AM Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
| EnD *DEPLORABLE* BLM User ID: 72109572 United States11/27/2016 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71690674 United States11/27/2016 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45163553 United States11/27/2016 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful what you wish for... trumps imaginary coalition is starting to unravel every day Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71059862 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] I asked a question on the thread linked. Number 1 scenario, what this seemed to mean, was that 5000 votes beyond the number of actual voters of any party that existed in the area, were taken off as some kind of error. (When we all know these states took their time, MI the longest, and seemed to be up to something.) But someone suggested that instead of this, they took 5000 votes away that were registered democrats changing their minds, no doubt due to the criminal natures of the Clintons? Does anyone here know which way this went because the idea of stealing votes away from those who woke up, would be really wrong! I don't believe the story its true at all. PoliticusUSA is the only website on the internet claiming this story. It would be all over the internet if it was true |
| Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 73221749 Canada11/27/2016 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No matter what occurred in WI, suggesting this would be enough for MI that has already recounted hand ballots, or PA, when this is just some of the fraud the Clinton's pulled off, is ludicrous: [link to joeforamerica.com] Broward Co FL Sec of Elections Brenda Snipes and her team have been caught red-handed engaging in massive voter fraud by filling out thousands of absentee ballots in a secret locked room. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72534829  Germany11/27/2016 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jill Stein is just George Soro's fag-hag, front-piece, merkin... call it what you want, but you can be almost sure she's rolling in his dough, "fronting" his "donations" and only calling it "grassroots." Just like BLM is Soros "grassroots." Of course Cankles is along for their lying, thieving ride.  |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45163553 United States11/27/2016 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| EnD *DEPLORABLE* BLM User ID: 72109572 United States11/27/2016 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jill Stein is just George Soro's fag-hag, front-piece, merkin... call it what you want, but you can be almost sure she's rolling in his dough, "fronting" his "donations" and only calling it "grassroots." Just like BLM is Soros "grassroots." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72534829 Of course Cankles is along for their lying, thieving ride. THIS --->  Yin and yang is never ending because if it did so would everything..... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45163553 United States11/27/2016 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jill Stein is just George Soro's fag-hag, front-piece, merkin... call it what you want, but you can be almost sure she's rolling in his dough, "fronting" his "donations" and only calling it "grassroots." Just like BLM is Soros "grassroots." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72534829 Of course Cankles is along for their lying, thieving ride.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71690674 United States11/27/2016 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they should but don't. It appears (for now) that WI is the only state that Jill Stein has actually filed The media is going to play this off as it being Jill's idea and Jill is now pissed that Hillary wants to join in. I will never believe this was Jill's idea. I wonder how many people will drink the koolaid. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68474440 United States11/27/2016 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful what you wish for... trumps imaginary coalition is starting to unravel every day Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71059862 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] What's complete bullshit is they're assuming the false votes were REP.... |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45163553 United States11/27/2016 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oops. Jill Stein forgot to mention to her donors that she cannot file a direct request for a recount in Pennsylvania. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45163553 Stein did not make the recount process clear for her donors. Her outline makes it sound as though a candidate can simply file for a recount if they raise enough funds for the filing fee. Stein would have to present a case showing voter fraud took place. Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud. [link to www.inquisitr.com] Michigan has similar laws. You have to show evidence of actual fraud or miscounting of votes before your petition can be granted. Appears so, However, their recount plans will come to a screeching halt in Michigan, where if they want a recall, must provide evidence of fraud or systematic error in every MI county to initiate a statewide recount. |
