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National concealed-carry reciprocity bill headed to next Congress (Bag em and tag em danno)

 
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12/07/2016 12:09 AM
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Re: National concealed-carry reciprocity bill headed to next Congress (Bag em and tag em danno)
screw that, concealed carry PERMITS are a violation of unalienable (its not "inalienable") rights to keep and bear arms.

i will continue to carry how, when and wherever i am, no permission asked for or needed.

for the voluntary subjects of government overreach, it is good news though.
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As well as not permitting felons the right to protect themselves and there property.
 Quoting: MajorZeroFox


Simply put, if a man or woman is allowed in public, they have the RIGHT to keep and bear arms.

One is either confined to prison, jail or mental facitlity via due process and a jury verdict or free until probable cause is proven to put them in one of those 3 places.
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12/07/2016 01:36 AM
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In the same vein as right to carry, why should California be subject to assault weapon and magazine bans while there perfectly legal in other states?
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12/07/2016 01:43 AM
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Fucking bullshit! Key words state you live in. So guys like me stuck in Jew Jersey that can get only an out of state permit are still fucked! Fucking bullshit! Nation wide gun carry that's it! 2nd ammendment for fucks sakes!ughhhh!!!
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12/07/2016 04:44 AM
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WINNING!!!
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12/07/2016 05:26 AM
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I think in Tenn. The fine for carrying is $500.00 .
I would rather pay the fine than be DEAD!

Now law suits from your attackers family may be another matter altogether?;-))sad!

Lic: At least makes folks know their guns a little better.

If you carry you should practice 2 times a week! PERIOD!
Till your VERY good with your guns...then 1 time a month should do it.;-))

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The Deplorable Ryan Cawdor

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Our right to shoot people across state lines about to be legal


Look out California, there's a new sheriff in town and he's
packin some serious heat
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That stupid gun law ballot measure they just passed in California will be deemed unconstitutional after Trump appoints a couple of new Supreme Court Justices.
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12/07/2016 06:36 AM
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FWIW: I don't agree with CC reciprocity. To me, this is a State's rights issue.

I do agree that is should not even be and issue in the first place because everyone should be carrying what ever the hell they want where ever the hell they want.
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Absolutely! The Fed govt should NOT be making laws that forcibly apply to all states, regardless of whether you agree with the law or not. States rights should be left to the states to handle.
...like a splinter in your mind
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12/07/2016 06:38 AM
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The right to bear arms is a military term for making war/fight. Not only self defense.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

This is all about a states right to govern its own military for the people of that state.
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Not exactly true. Congress reserved the right to engage militias. The Constitution addresses the militia in Article I, Section 8. It states “The Congress shall have the power … To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.”

So states can appoint officers and train the militias.
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The Deplorable Ryan Cawdor

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The right to bear arms is a military term for making war/fight. Not only self defense.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

This is all about a states right to govern its own military for the people of that state.
 Quoting: ByeBye


Not exactly true. Congress reserved the right to engage militias. The Constitution addresses the militia in Article I, Section 8. It states “The Congress shall have the power … To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.”

So states can appoint officers and train the militias.
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Ok, so that's your view. Explain the Shall Not Be Infringed part

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12/07/2016 07:17 AM
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The fact that theyre making a legal provision shows our governments ignoramce of its own constitution
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FWIW: I don't agree with CC reciprocity. To me, this is a State's rights issue.

I do agree that is should not even be and issue in the first place because everyone should be carrying what ever the hell they want where ever the hell they want.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73370064


Absolutely! The Fed govt should NOT be making laws that forcibly apply to all states, regardless of whether you agree with the law or not. States rights should be left to the states to handle.
 Quoting: PlaneHerder


Read the 2nd amendment, then read the 10th amendment, then slap yourself for being so stupid, then apologize to us for posting that most idiotic of posts.

The SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND IS WRITTEN AND WAS AGREED TO BY ALL STATES IN THE UNION.
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The right to bear arms is a military term for making war/fight. Not only self defense.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

This is all about a states right to govern its own military for the people of that state.
 Quoting: ByeBye


Not exactly true. Congress reserved the right to engage militias. The Constitution addresses the militia in Article I, Section 8. It states “The Congress shall have the power … To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.”

So states can appoint officers and train the militias.
 Quoting: twortle


There are 3 groups the Second amendment speaks of, the militia and the people.

The militia is regulated by the States, that is true.

The RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Your legal speak twisting does not change the clear and simple written law of the land.

The MILITIA is regulated well AND the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall NOT BE INFRINGED.

Read those again until you get it, cause it has not changed for over 200 years.
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FWIW: I don't agree with CC reciprocity. To me, this is a State's rights issue.

I do agree that is should not even be and issue in the first place because everyone should be carrying what ever the hell they want where ever the hell they want.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73370064


Absolutely! The Fed govt should NOT be making laws that forcibly apply to all states, regardless of whether you agree with the law or not. States rights should be left to the states to handle.
 Quoting: PlaneHerder


I guess you missed the whole Civil War part of History class.

Clearly, the Constitution(s) apply apply and agree, the Supreme Law of the Land applies to ALL forms of Governments from City all the way up to the Federal level.

While I agree the Federal Government does not enforce it, that is the Law.

You can choose to ignore the Facts (as all attorney double minded fools do) but those are the facts.





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