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Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?

 
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
did you not hear already that Zero has already denounced this conspiracy
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did you not hear already that Zero has already denounced this conspiracy
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Zero from Borderlands 2? If not, then who's this Zero guy?
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
Yes, but does he want to? No.

He's ready to step-down, and let whoever gets elected deal with it.
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
I can't be arsed to quote all the replies but it looks like it all boils down to:

A) It's going to happen, and there's nothing anyone can do about it except shit their pants, ball up in a corner, and wait for the evil (insert your favorite paranoia inducing agency here) to put them in a prison camp.

B) It's not going to happen.

C) Nothing can be done about the former and nothing needs to be done about the latter.

So, pretty much a pointless thread regardless of choice A, B, or C.
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
I can't be arsed to quote all the replies but it looks like it all boils down to:

A) It's going to happen, and there's nothing anyone can do about it except shit their pants, ball up in a corner, and wait for the evil (insert your favorite paranoia inducing agency here) to put them in a prison camp.

B) It's not going to happen.

C) Nothing can be done about the former and nothing needs to be done about the latter.

So, pretty much a pointless thread regardless of choice A, B, or C.
 Quoting: Boyd Crowder


rayof

True, but I'd rather be positive about this rather than pessimistic if I can help it, Boyd Crowder.
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rayof

True, but I'd rather be positive about this rather than pessimistic if I can help it, Boyd Crowder.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


I'm not a pessimist, I'm more of a realist. Nor was I attempting to rain on anyone's parade. I simply do not know many (if any) that would "go quietly into that good night". There's that whole pesky 2nd amendment thing that might put a kink in the enforcement part of the proposed equation. They've never really dealt with that, so there's not much parallel with the rest of the world's history in that respect.

The states would also have to be complicit in the declaration & enforcement. Most states (even the blue ones) have a fairly decent track record of waving 'states rights' in the Fed's faces, at every given opportunity - with the exception of receiving Federal funding, of course - whether it be legalizing pot, gun laws, immigration, etc.

Also some interesting history... The record of the UN, as related to their 'peacekeeping missions' (come to think of it, pretty much ANY missions) is fraught with epic fail.



*I wasn't trying to be an arse, although apparently I succeeded. lol
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5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

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rayof

True, but I'd rather be positive about this rather than pessimistic if I can help it, Boyd Crowder.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


I'm not a pessimist, I'm more of a realist. Nor was I attempting to rain on anyone's parade. I simply do not know many (if any) that would "go quietly into that good night". There's that whole pesky 2nd amendment thing that might put a kink in the enforcement part of the proposed equation. They've never really dealt with that, so there's not much parallel with the rest of the world's history in that respect.

The states would also have to be complicit in the declaration & enforcement. Most states (even the blue ones) have a fairly decent track record of waving 'states rights' in the Fed's faces, at every given opportunity - with the exception of receiving Federal funding, of course - whether it be legalizing pot, gun laws, immigration, etc.

Also some interesting history... The record of the UN, as related to their 'peacekeeping missions' (come to think of it, pretty much ANY missions) is fraught with epic fail.



*I wasn't trying to be an arse, although apparently I succeeded. lol
 Quoting: Boyd Crowder


Oh ok, BC. It's all good. I've read enough into human history, especially in the last two thousand years and fear is an amazingly powerful tool to arrest and even cease all forms of combat in people. The Grand False Alien Invasion at least partially using Project Bluebeam holographic technologies would be the perfect fear based event to serve as the catalyst to really usher in Lucifer's NWO in an absolute hurry.

Just because you and I aren't pussies, Boyd Crowder, doesn't mean the masses have spines too. Most likely the masses will very easily crumble as a mob and go from hating Lucifer and everything he has done, is doing, and will do to them to absolutely loving him and everything he stands for if he calls off his forces from slaughtering anymore people and especially people's families.

Just look at how close people are in general to the point-of-no-return these days. We're rapidly approaching the end of what we know as general peace. Overwhelming widespread chaos and panic type of days are almost upon us. But hey Merry Christmas, eh?
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
If martial law is declared it is because a civil war has or is about to begin. I don't think Obama is that crazy. I would say that at least 50% or more of the armed forces would side with Trump. So folks on GLP don't need to worry about the Government forces hunting down preppers. They will be a bit busy fighting all the Military units that flip to the opposition side. Didn't everyone see the standing ovation Mr Trump got when he went to the Army/Navy game last weekend? They love him. No way Obama is going to take that kind of chance. They are just doing their best to discredit him before he takes office. They will fight him tooth and nail and try and make the Republicans look like idiots so they can sweep in 2020.
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
I have been asking myself this questionn for many months already. Analysing the extreme gap between Democrats and Republicans in society, the staged riotting, the constant stream of rumors about Russian hacks, the investigation in the coming weeks, Obama faking independency by saying he denounces it and demands to see the outcome before the inauguration of Trump (the outcome undoubtedly being rigged), in my honest opinion might give Obama the perfect opportunity to declare martial law. I guess not so much backed by military force, since Trump has appointed former generals on key positions, which in my opinion is a strong strategic move, but more through playing the card of sponsored civil protests in money and media, the risk of the economic carsh, therefore sparking a possible revolution.

Why would he do this? Let's face it. Obama will not go down in history as the toughest and best president the USA had in history and that is putting it very mildly. In fact, in both domestic and international affairs, he is by far the worst and weakest president the USA has had in many decades. Put in perspective the tough image that Trump has and the fact that Trump apparantly does put his money where his mouth is and it will make him look even worse. He has not been able to control Putin, IS, nor the Middle East conflict. In my humble opinion he made the world a much less safer place to live in by his total lack of leadership.

The USA might have their own Lil Kim in Obama. The difference being that he is backed by big money, like the Sorosses of this world. Money to fund riots, money to start civil unrest among crowds that oppose Trump and are easily lead by the same money funded biased media and their fake stories. And let's face it, if we can get all teary eyed from sob stories on America's Got Talent or Dr. Phil, then why not push Trump even more in the bad guy role on stage at the biggest Jerry Springer Show on earth and trigger large orchestrated audiences into fighting for what the director of the show (Obama) believes is just.

Despite the negativity of such an option, that might be far fetched, to avoid being less than a tiny foot note, it might be the only way Obama can get his name in the history books, in the name of so called democracy.

In my quest for answers to that question I stumbled upon this video, that carries quite a bit of truth in my opinion. But for everyone to judge for themselves.



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 Quoting: InterMezzo

STOP TALKING ABOUT MY COUNTRY YOU STONER! GO BACK TO YOUR KAFFE HAUSE AND STFU!
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
On who the russians?
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
Declaring is one thing. Enforcing?

lol
 Quoting: Boyd Crowder


You're really overestimating things, Boyd Crowder. The masses are easily startled and frightened. Bother reading into history and you'll why Hitler, Caesar, Stalin, and all of the other great dictators of old were so overwhelmingly successful in their leaderships. Obama has a darn good template to use and he's using it very effectively at that.
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You need the armed forces and police to enforce

Obama no longer controls them

They are Trumps
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
Declaring is one thing. Enforcing?

lol
 Quoting: Boyd Crowder


You're really overestimating things, Boyd Crowder. The masses are easily startled and frightened. Bother reading into history and you'll why Hitler, Caesar, Stalin, and all of the other great dictators of old were so overwhelmingly successful in their leaderships. Obama has a darn good template to use and he's using it very effectively at that.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


You need the armed forces and police to enforce

Obama no longer controls them

They are Trumps
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49509890


Not officially, AC. Only once Trump is sworn into Office does he control our Military.
Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker.

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and when they see someone who is not mad,
they will attack him, saying,
'You are mad; you are not like us."
-- St. Anthony The Great

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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
I have been asking myself this questionn for many months already. Analysing the extreme gap between Democrats and Republicans in society, the staged riotting, the constant stream of rumors about Russian hacks, the investigation in the coming weeks, Obama faking independency by saying he denounces it and demands to see the outcome before the inauguration of Trump (the outcome undoubtedly being rigged), in my honest opinion might give Obama the perfect opportunity to declare martial law. I guess not so much backed by military force, since Trump has appointed former generals on key positions, which in my opinion is a strong strategic move, but more through playing the card of sponsored civil protests in money and media, the risk of the economic carsh, therefore sparking a possible revolution.

Why would he do this? Let's face it. Obama will not go down in history as the toughest and best president the USA had in history and that is putting it very mildly. In fact, in both domestic and international affairs, he is by far the worst and weakest president the USA has had in many decades. Put in perspective the tough image that Trump has and the fact that Trump apparantly does put his money where his mouth is and it will make him look even worse. He has not been able to control Putin, IS, nor the Middle East conflict. In my humble opinion he made the world a much less safer place to live in by his total lack of leadership.

The USA might have their own Lil Kim in Obama. The difference being that he is backed by big money, like the Sorosses of this world. Money to fund riots, money to start civil unrest among crowds that oppose Trump and are easily lead by the same money funded biased media and their fake stories. And let's face it, if we can get all teary eyed from sob stories on America's Got Talent or Dr. Phil, then why not push Trump even more in the bad guy role on stage at the biggest Jerry Springer Show on earth and trigger large orchestrated audiences into fighting for what the director of the show (Obama) believes is just.

Despite the negativity of such an option, that might be far fetched, to avoid being less than a tiny foot note, it might be the only way Obama can get his name in the history books, in the name of so called democracy.

In my quest for answers to that question I stumbled upon this video, that carries quite a bit of truth in my opinion. But for everyone to judge for themselves.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: InterMezzo

STOP TALKING ABOUT MY COUNTRY YOU STONER! GO BACK TO YOUR KAFFE HAUSE AND STFU!
 Quoting: REAL AMERICAN HERO 73601913


Best keyboard warrior ever! 1rof1
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and when they see someone who is not mad,
they will attack him, saying,
'You are mad; you are not like us."
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
I'll give you a pass cause your out of country but he already said the Russians did NOT do it.
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Re: Can Obama use the current Russian hacking conspiracy theory to declare martial law?
How would he do that when he just declared the whole Russian thing moot?
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