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It's a post-nostalgic, uber-kitsch, ironic world now. Devoid of tradition, meaning or attachment.

 
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There is a demonic crusade to obliterate Christ and Christianity . This includes the empty world version of Christmas . xmas
 Quoting: Faith 72183601


I wonder how much better it would be if we went back to Christmas's true roots and all took magic mushrooms every 25 DEC?

Hmmm...
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


Hmmm . . you sound exactly like the kind of Yankee asshole I wouldn't wish to spend Christmas with . . .
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There is a demonic crusade to obliterate Christ and Christianity . This includes the empty world version of Christmas . xmas
 Quoting: Faith 72183601


I wonder how much better it would be if we went back to Christmas's true roots and all took magic mushrooms every 25 DEC?

Hmmm...
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


Huh ?!
 Quoting: Faith 72183601


You are dealing with a lite weight bullshit artist who thinks he's a fucking philosopher.
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There is a demonic crusade to obliterate Christ and Christianity . This includes the empty world version of Christmas . xmas
 Quoting: Faith 72183601


I wonder how much better it would be if we went back to Christmas's true roots and all took magic mushrooms every 25 DEC?

Hmmm...
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


Huh ?!
 Quoting: Faith 72183601


You are dealing with a lite weight bullshit artist who thinks he's a fucking philosopher.
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Aww, someone got their butt hurt!

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Last time I was insultingly called a Yankee , it was by an Arab in Old City Jerusalem . Then and now ...it is a compliment . flag waver
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Think about Christmas....ugly sweaters are a thing now, sold in kits or available at Target or Party City. No sweet little Grandmas or Moms in the mix, sewing with love or sentiment.

TV stations play the same once-beloved movie for 24 hours, totally killing any specialness or "once a year" feeling, the repetition turns the sentiment into snark or irony.

Several stations even have a Yule Log playing on the TV for hours on end. Or you can get it anytime on your computer for the fake warm fuzzy feeling.

Presents have been replaced by gift cards, frought with obligation and expectation instead of generosity or surprise.

Christmas trees are fake. Or miniature. With tiny little or ornaments that reflect or personalities or lifestyle instead of the Spirit of the season.

So last Christmas? That was a decade or more ago.

We are post-cultural at this point. No shared values or traditions. All just having our own little special snowflake experiences. No depth, no feeling. Just checking off the boxes on the calendar.
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I'm glad its over, and I think this was the last Christmas I'll do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13183066


I feel the exact same way.

Also.. interestingly... everything was fine at my place as long as we stayed in the 'fantasy' land of no meaning. I brought up one 'controversial' topic at the end of the night Christmas Eve thinking that everyone was in a fine headspace and there would be no big deal. My family shit down - my adult daughter looked like she was going to cry and then after I asked her why she can't talk about anything meaningful anymore she *did* cry.
I felt shocked and sad.
I felt like I'd dropped a bomb on the house by accident - it was that bad. I got angry. They got angry.
Then we went to bed, got up, and pretended nothing happened.

I'd say it was the booze but it's like that every time ... stay away from anything important and keep the talk to fingernails and music.

crazy. makes me feel so alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73042251


What was the controversial topic?

Your comment to your daughter reminded me of my dad saying to me
'You never reached your full potential'

I don't feel like a failure. In fact it's the opposite,
I'm stationary in the magnitude of the possibilities that lay before me.

spent my first Christmas Day alone 3 Christmases ago, and visited one of my trees instead.
Since then they've been a No bullshit day with friends over a good feed

It's the excitement of little kids faces that inhale you into festivities like that in the first place reminding you of when you were that child at Christmas.
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Agree. So would Heidegger. We are way off track from real being or culture. The techno monkies at Facebook, Google, on Wall Street...full steam ahead to nowhere and nothing.
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Think about Christmas....ugly sweaters are a thing now, sold in kits or available at Target or Party City. No sweet little Grandmas or Moms in the mix, sewing with love or sentiment.

TV stations play the same once-beloved movie for 24 hours, totally killing any specialness or "once a year" feeling, the repetition turns the sentiment into snark or irony.

Several stations even have a Yule Log playing on the TV for hours on end. Or you can get it anytime on your computer for the fake warm fuzzy feeling.

Presents have been replaced by gift cards, frought with obligation and expectation instead of generosity or surprise.

Christmas trees are fake. Or miniature. With tiny little or ornaments that reflect or personalities or lifestyle instead of the Spirit of the season.

So last Christmas? That was a decade or more ago.

We are post-cultural at this point. No shared values or traditions. All just having our own little special snowflake experiences. No depth, no feeling. Just checking off the boxes on the calendar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73131060


I'm glad its over, and I think this was the last Christmas I'll do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13183066


I feel the exact same way.

Also.. interestingly... everything was fine at my place as long as we stayed in the 'fantasy' land of no meaning. I brought up one 'controversial' topic at the end of the night Christmas Eve thinking that everyone was in a fine headspace and there would be no big deal. My family shit down - my adult daughter looked like she was going to cry and then after I asked her why she can't talk about anything meaningful anymore she *did* cry.
I felt shocked and sad.
I felt like I'd dropped a bomb on the house by accident - it was that bad. I got angry. They got angry.
Then we went to bed, got up, and pretended nothing happened.

I'd say it was the booze but it's like that every time ... stay away from anything important and keep the talk to fingernails and music.

crazy. makes me feel so alone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73042251


*shut down, not shit-down. lol
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And I was just trying to figure out how to use it in a sentence.
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Re: It's a post-nostalgic, uber-kitsch, ironic world now. Devoid of tradition, meaning or attachment.
I still get a real tree every year (from a "cut it yourself" lot if possible).
I still put up lights.
I don't have cable, but still watch Christmas Vacation every year.
We have a real fire in the real fireplace nearly every night during winter.

I know I'm not alone. Tradition and family values are alive and well. If you spend your free time watching your new HDTV PROGRAMMING/playing the latest video games, you're lost in the matrix, though...
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Re: It's a post-nostalgic, uber-kitsch, ironic world now. Devoid of tradition, meaning or attachment.
You've hit on two things about millennials:

1) They take everthing too far.
2) They live their lives according to the memes they see

So examples of number 1.

They realize a beard is masculine. So they overgrow a giant unkempt beard down to their chest.

They think the movie A Christmas Story is funny. So they organize a party just to watch it ten times and walk around saying "You'll shoot your eye out" for three months in the winter.

Examples of number 2.

They see ugly christmas sweaters as a meme. The next you know there are ugly christmas sweater parties, websites selling them for $50, ugly christmas sweater pub crawls, ugly christmas sweater mugshots.

They have to film their pets opening presents so they can put it on Youtube.
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Christmas was gutted a long time ago, with the rise of socialism. A different, atheistic culture grew up inside of the predominantly white, Christian society that lasted until probably the last half of the twentieth century.

Christmas, like it or not, is a celebration of the birth of Jesus, celebrated in the dead of winter. Little by little, there was no real reason to celebrate except for the gifts and a little break when people were tired of the long dark days.

For a good portion of the population, the only reason to get together and celebrate is based on greed, gluttony, pride, which open the door to their cousins, anger, lust and laziness.

Here, more clearly revealed every year, is the real face of the cult of socialism, replacing the religion of true Christ-centered Christianity.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


good post
 Quoting: s. d. butler


NO, myopic one-sided slant on reality.

Bullshit post really.
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Is that really surprising? The capitalist, consumerism, 'everything is a commodity to be exploited for profit' mind set has become a cancer in society.

The masses have been indoctrinated to think that making alot of money and/or gaining celebrity status is the pinnacle of 'success' as a human being - regardless of the consequences of their actions on others.

The sheeple applaud 'reality TV' programs where 'house hunters' refurbish a house then sell if for millions of dollars...but completely ignore the poor couple who have to spend more money in order to buy that house.

The main stream media applaud companies like Apple for their 'innovation'...but largely ignore their tax avoidance and exploitation of workers.

Society has largely become a cesspool of arrogance, self-rightiousness, extreme selfishness - rationalised through economic theory - and a suffocating blanket of normalcy bias. I could go on...but you know what I mean...
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Totally this.

Trump is p0ster b0y for selfish greed.
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Our centre of being is transitioning from the social to the mental (which is why the social arena can now become a maleable plaything)


None of that stuff ever had any intrinsic meaning other than a social glue, that so long as everyone believed or paid lip-service served as a necessary focus for society.
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Christmas was gutted a long time ago, with the rise of socialism. A different, atheistic culture grew up inside of the predominantly white, Christian society that lasted until probably the last half of the twentieth century.

Christmas, like it or not, is a celebration of the birth of Jesus, celebrated in the dead of winter. Little by little, there was no real reason to celebrate except for the gifts and a little break when people were tired of the long dark days.

For a good portion of the population, the only reason to get together and celebrate is based on greed, gluttony, pride, which open the door to their cousins, anger, lust and laziness.

Here, more clearly revealed every year, is the real face of the cult of socialism, replacing the religion of true Christ-centered Christianity.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Very, very well stated--I can see the green bar next to your name is well deserved.
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Re: It's a post-nostalgic, uber-kitsch, ironic world now. Devoid of tradition, meaning or attachment.
You've hit on two things about millennials:

1) They take everthing too far.
2) They live their lives according to the memes they see

So examples of number 1.

They realize a beard is masculine. So they overgrow a giant unkempt beard down to their chest.

They think the movie A Christmas Story is funny. So they organize a party just to watch it ten times and walk around saying "You'll shoot your eye out" for three months in the winter.

Examples of number 2.

They see ugly christmas sweaters as a meme. The next you know there are ugly christmas sweater parties, websites selling them for $50, ugly christmas sweater pub crawls, ugly christmas sweater mugshots.

They have to film their pets opening presents so they can put it on Youtube.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73261399


Great post.

Lots of good observations in this thread. Thanks all.

Is there any turning back? If not, what will it look like 20 years from now? 50?

Depressing.

I feel archaic.





GLP