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There is no rapture, as it is premoted by mainstream lukewarm TV preachers.

 
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There is no rapture, as it is premoted by mainstream lukewarm TV preachers.
Debunking of the Rapture

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Those who have been closest to Christ suffered the most, not the least. Each one of us must carry our cross to our own Calvary. Pre-trib Christians fail to see this - there is no Heaven without the cross. If we are to be Christ-like we must be Christ-like in all things. The early Christians were martyred, they weren't raptured away. The end-time Christians may very well be asked to shed their blood in testimony for their love in God and His Truth


For YOU, my beloved Christian brothers and sisters, I have been given a light to shine and I must not waste the Glory that God has shown me upon myself. So please read this post completely with an humble heart and pray to the Lord Christ Jesus the Word and Lamb and mighty high preist to test what I have labored to expose. Test it by the Word of God and through prayer, see that your eyes and ears are not clouded with pride and self-empowerment. Remember to whom that over comes this world WILL be rewarded with the glorious things of God, that we as yet can not know. If you knew who you really are, ye would not sin against the ALMIGHTY.

This is a shared effort and work, from other brothers and myself, let the credit and glory if there be any, go to The Father God.



The Pre-Trib-Rapture belief is a deception !

Will the church and everyone go through the tribulation period or not ?
First we must clear up some of the belief systems that exist and their theology. The list below includes different views from assorted modern day religious groups.

Pre-Tribulational Rapture: The pretrib view holds that the Church will be "raptured" before the entire seventieth week of Daniel. This is a prevalent view in countries that have never experienced widespread persecution, such as the United States. Jesus then comes back bodily at the end of the seventieth week of Daniel to rule and judge.

Mid-Tribulational Rapture: The Church will escape the last half of the seventieth week, also known as the Great Tribulation. Jesus then comes back bodily at the end of the Tribulation to rule and judge.

Pre-Wrath Rapture: The basic aspects of the prewrath view are that the "rapture" is distinct from the "second coming" and the "rapture" will take place between the sixth and seventh seals. Jesus then comes back bodily at the end of the seventieth week of Daniel to rule and judge.

Post-Tribulational Second Coming: In most versions of postribulationism, the "rapture" and the "second coming" are at the same time. Post-Trib people do not consider themselves to be Pre-Wrath. Jesus Christ comes back for His elect, they meet Him in the air and He comes bodily to earth immediately to rule and reign.

Preterism: This view has several variations. It places many or all eschatological events in the past, especially during the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. (R.C. Sproul, The Last Days According to Jesus, p. 228) The extreme version of this view denies the need for Jesus to return bodily to rule and reign because He supposedly already did and the Church is Christ.

Amillennialism: Amillennialism is the system of theology which does not include a future millennial reign of Christ on the earth. They believe that Jesus Christ is reigning today through His Church and that Satan is bound. Thus they deny the bodily return of Christ to rule and judge.

Postmillennialism/Dominionism: Postmillennialism and Dominionism are becoming hard to distinguish apart these days. They are fusing into one system of belief, especially popular in the Third Wave counterfeit revival. It is the belief that Christ will return after the Church has Christianized society, through a Christian force called "Joel's Army". He will not rapture His elect because they will be victorious here on earth. Jesus Christ does not come back bodily but returns "in His Church" and reigns on earth through His Church spiritually. denies that Christ returns bodily to rule and judge.





ONLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE USED HERE TO FIND THE TRUTH !


[size=18]It is right in our face ![/size]

1st Corinthians 15 verse 51 and 52

51. Behold, I shew you a [size=24]mystery[/size] (REMEMBER THIS "Mystery")
; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
NOTE at the Last Trump



1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17
16. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Note the" Trump" and the dead 1st and then we are caught up together in the clouds, ( not heaven ) but clouds !

Ok when are the TRUMPS !


Revelation 8


NOTE, that before the LAST trump all hell breaks loose upon the earth.


Revelation 8
1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
2. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
3. And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
4. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
5. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
6. And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
7. The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
8. And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
9. And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
10. And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
11. And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
12. And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
13. And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
Revelation 9
1. And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7. And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11. And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
12. One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
13. And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
14. Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15. And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
16. And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
17. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
18. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19. For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
20. And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21. Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
Revelation 10
1. And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
2. And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3. And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4. And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5. And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6. And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7. But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the [size=24]mystery[/size] of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
8. And the voice which I heard from heaven
unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which
upon the sea and upon the earth.
9. And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11. And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

Note the [size=18]Mystery[/size] ( finished )


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There's More..

2 Thessalonians 2
3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
Notice that word "and".( we will ALL see the rise of the Anti-Christ to power. )

Matthew 24:29-31

29. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31. And he shall send his angels with a [size=18]great sound of a trumpet,[/size] and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

There it is in black and white, folks. Immediately after the tribulation the elect are gathered.



More Convincing Truth

THE LAST DAY


Quote:
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
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Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.





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[size=24]Jesus prays that we are not taken out of the world ![/size]
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John 17:15
" I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. "
17:20 -" Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;"


Revelations 3:10
10. Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11. Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
13. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit unto the churches.

The only thing the ELECT will be spared from is the HOUR of temptation !

And the Elect, may be only 14,4000 people not the great mulititude which no man could number. Today we have over 6.2 billion people on Earth.
You do the math !



There you have it, if you have eye's to see and ears to hear !


This Prophet ( Isaiah ) was sawed in half and the Lord loved him dearly !


(( THINK ))
We the followers of Christ Jesus shall suffer as well !

Isaiah 66:4
4. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer.
We all will face death of the body. Be not fearful , but instead be a soldier for the Lord.


Please study our fathers word, so that YOU are not of the great number of people deluted and siezed by false doctrine.

[size=18]The word rapture comes from the Latin word, raptus, which literally means seized. [/size]

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

IN the days of Noah those that were taken, were taken AWAY, not to gain reward, but KILLED ! So just as the verse above says, As in the days of Noe !


Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.


So what happend to the Apostles ?


Some have commented how wonderful it must have been to have been chosen as one of the apostles, or to have been John the Baptist, or to have been among the earliest of Christians who actually saw and heard Jesus Christ in person. It certainly would have been a great honor and joy to have been among those pioneers of the true church.

A New Day However, with the knowledge and understanding came responsibility. They were expected to go out into the world and be active witnesses of what they saw and heard. That was their purpose. In the political and religious climate of that time, the God-defying hatred that got Jesus the Christ killed, or He allowed himself to be killed. (which really has not changed at all), many of them lost their lives as well.

The Bible does not record what happened to all of the apostles, however there are other references to their activities. Some are rather fanciful, while some are more trustworthy. From those sources, a general consensus has been established among historians.

From the information that we have, it is very likely that John was the only one of the original Twelve Apostles to escape martyrdom, at least at an early age. After he wrote the book of Revelation, while a prisoner of the Romans (see Ancient Empires - Rome), even he too may then have been killed.

John The Baptist

John The Baptist was beheaded by Herod. (Matthew 14:1-12) (see Herod The herods )

Stephen

The account of Stephen is very well documented in the Bible (Acts chapters 6 and 7). He is generally regarded as the first Christian martyr.

It has been estimated that about 2,000 Christians, along with Nicanor, one of the seven deacons (Acts 6:5), also suffered martyrdom during the great persecution that arose after Stephen (Acts 8:1).

James, the brother of John

James was "put to death with the sword" by King Herod (Acts 12:2)


Philip

Reportedly suffered martyrdom at Heliopolis, in Phrygia. He was severely flogged, imprisoned, and later crucified.


Matthew

The former tax collector, he was killed with a halberd (a pike fitted with an ax head) in Nadabah.


James

Stoned and clubbed to death in Jerusalem.


Matthias

He was stoned, then beheaded at Jerusalem.


Andrew, the brother of Peter

He was crucified on an X-shaped cross, two ends of which were in the ground. Hence the origin of the term, "St. Andrew's Cross".


Mark

Mark was reportedly torn to pieces by a mob in Alexandria after he told them that their god, a statue carved from stone, was worthless (see Images and Idols).


Peter

Peter was reportedly crucified, upside down, during the reign of Emperor Nero.



Paul

Beheaded, or torn to pieces by wild animals in the arena, during the time of Nero. See On The Road To Damascus, Paul In Athens, Paul In Rome, Paul's First Missionary Journey, Paul's Journey To Rome, Paul's Second Missionary Journey and Paul's Third Missionary Journey.


Jude

The brother of James, often called Thaddeus. He was crucified at Edessa.



Bartholomew

Tortured and crucified in India.


Thomas

Thomas was reportedly killed with a spear in India.


Luke

Luke was the author of the Gospel which is called by his name, and also probably the Book Of Acts. One account states that he died of old age, while another says that he was hanged in an olive tree in Greece.



Simon the Zealot

He traveled widely, and is believed to have been crucified in what is today Britain.



John

John took care of Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ (not the mother of God), after the Crucifixion (John 19:26-27). He went on to write the Book of Revelation while a prisoner on Patmos. He may be the only apostle who escaped a violent death.



Barnabas

Barnabas is believed to have been killed about 10 years after Paul.


Last I also think that just about every Prophet was also killed, for there efforts and work that was to bring truth and warn, and labor for God.


How can anyone think that "They" somehow will escape, without cost ?
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OP,

Very thorough, and very true post.

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Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Be Still! - And know that He is God.
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Yes...the DOOM is for all....we all must face it. Its the DOOM which will sort the sheep from the goats. You wont really know where you stand...until you are faced with the DOOM. Only then will you know if you are really what you say you are.


Well done op!

Bout time someone cleared up this whole mess and called a spade a spade.

BRING ON THE DOOM.
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It would seem that some of the HTML coding I used, such as, [size=18) was not supported here, my bad..

None the less You can still clearly understand this posting.

sorry about the error.

There is NO Rapture, When Noah entered the Ark, everyone else was taken, by the disaterous flood, and so will it be with those taken, all the way through the tribulation period.

Then on The LAST Day for Earth, as it is now, those that remain, will be with the Lord in the Air, right after all the Good Dead are reserected
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Here is an awesome video showing what really is going to happen: [link to www.earthquakeresurrection.com]
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Here is an awesome video showing what really is going to happen: [link to www.earthquakeresurrection.com]
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Yes...the DOOM is for all....we all must face it. Its the DOOM which will sort the sheep from the goats. You wont really know where you stand...until you are faced with the DOOM. Only then will you know if you are really what you say you are.


Well done op!

Bout time someone cleared up this whole mess and called a spade a spade.

BRING ON THE DOOM.
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Not realy
you forget about the small children who have yet to be taugh to hate (other then the abused, they feel hate)

the rest of you are f_kd

remember ME

I'll see you all in Hell
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Yes, I am with ya, DOOM, lets get it all overwith !

But, yet, there may be a few straggler's coming, so all in God's good time.. We got have got to get that beast chip, and the AntiJesus, out of the way first.

I am still awaiting the TWO wittnesses, with gladness !
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Good post OP.
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I agree with most of this. Except you point that Mary is not the Mother of God.
If Jesus Christ, the second person of the trinity, is God, and then he was born of a Virgin, that Virgin would have quite literally given birth to God. Therefore the sentence that Mary is the Mother of God would not be inaccurate. Maybe they should add, Mary, Mother of God on Earth, and that would make you feel better.
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Hey THT!


...a most excellent post...

...God bless...



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A WONDERFUL BIBICAL MESSAGE.

The only tiny error was your COMMA here in this sentance. "And the Elect, may be only 14,4000 people . . ."

The Holy Spirit showed me EXACTLY the same Scriptures about 20 years ago after being a Born-Again Christian for 18 years. I had been falsely taught, as are the majority of American Belivers.

Keep telling God's truth . . . and may HE bless you,

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Keep this on a


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I agree with most of this. Except you point that Mary is not the Mother of God.
If Jesus Christ, the second person of the trinity, is God, and then he was born of a Virgin, that Virgin would have quite literally given birth to God. Therefore the sentence that Mary is the Mother of God would not be inaccurate. Maybe they should add, Mary, Mother of God on Earth, and that would make you feel better.
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there is something there...

it looks to me, at this moment, that belief in Mary being alive now in heaven, praying for us and even conveying messages to us, has alot to do with resurrecting the Mother Holy Spirit back to our consciousness.

notice how people dont talk much about the Holy Spirit? The christian church does, but calls the Holy Spirit an "IT" or says it is the Father's spirit, which doesnt really make sense.

Some new agers believe in the Mother Goddess, but do not call Her the Holy Spirit and want to replace the Father with a Goddess. And some new agers DO call the Mother Goddess the same as the Holy Spirit and Wisdom, however it is not clear that they understand Her role in creation, which is to cleanse us of all the lies we have believed by teaching us Her Wisdom - which is based on the WORDS of God. So, if you do not know God's WORDS, by reading the bible or hearing His voice, then the Holy Spirit does not have as much to work with, with you.

So this Maryology has, in a way, held a spot for, someday, learning the truth about the real Mother, Holy Spirit.

Then, you have the deception of a false-goddess that can be glommed onto Mary. It can sure cause confusion!

All I can say is, the times we live in now, are for us to be restored to God, and includes the revealing of the Mother Holy Spirit and Her role in creation. She is our Mother, Jerusalem, which is above. Her name, to God, is JERUSALEM. Imagine. There is alot to this.

So, I try to keep an open mind on the whole Mary issue. Why would God forsake people in the catholic persuasion? He would not. How could Mary be dead? She could not. If Mary is dead, then we all have no hope. It is a tough issue.
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Although the Noah's Ark story belongs to the Old Covenant/Testament, frequent references to it, as a very important "Article of Faith", occur in the New Covenant and also in the Koran. In fact, Christ made a "Life or death" (yours) Prophecy, that, at the time when he would return to the Earth, conditions and attitudes on the Earth would be like they were in "the days of Noah".

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man.
17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.
17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

This Prophetical statement has never been fully understood or appreciated, by anyone, since it was first made, by Christ himself, 2000 years ago. Christ also said, repeatedly, "I AM NOT FROM THIS WORLD" (John 17:16).

Many people can see that, now, in the latter-half of the 20th century (the Last Days), those conditions are again plainly in evidence, especially Sodomy/homosexuality; lewdness and scoffing (Rev./Apoc. 21:8, 27 & 2 Peter 3 & 2 Tim. 3), for all to see and so, thereby, recognise "The Signs of The Times" (Matt. 16:3) and that Christ must come, or, as he said himself, be here NOW.

However, everyone has missed the crucially important point of this very eloquent, "Life or death" statement. That is, possibly, because they have not joined it to the other related-warning Prophecy, given by Jesus, which must be done, otherwise it is impossible to understand the full meaning and importance of the first statement.

Christ's second Prophetical statement was a warning about the many false christs (and religious teachers) and false prophets, who, under Satan's control, would come at the same time, in order to deceive as many people as possible (everyone except "the very Elect"), in order to keep them away from the REAL Christ, who would at this time be upon the Earth, in human form, inside a new body from Joseph/Ephraim (Please see my "On The Way to Emmaus Again" Booklet), if this were not true, Satan would have no need to make false ones to keep the people away from the REAL One. The best place to hide a tree is in a wood.

Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any [man] deceive you:
13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very Elect.
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not. (Search the Old Covenant Prophecies for where I will be).

This statement was NOT meant as a warning to people not to believe the real Christ who would be, as he said, on the Earth at this same time, but only against being deceived by the false ones, and by the false religion-teachers and prophets.

The first statement about the "Times of Noah" and the two crucially important points that were being made by Christ, that NO-ONE has understood, are that many, many people will believe and be deceived by false christs; false prophets and the false religion-teachers of every religion but no-one will believe the real Christ, just as no-one believed Noah. That is what Christ really was saying, to YOU, that people would choose to believe anyone rather than believe him, and would take the "Quick and Easy-path" of Organised Religions, instead of The Way (2 Peter 2:14-15, 21 & 3:15-17).

The second, even more crucially important point to that statement, is that because no-one believed Noah and so did not REPENT and do as he told them to do, they ALL died. That is exactly what Christ was telling YOU, that is, that because the WHOLE world has been deceived by Satan (Rev./Apoc. 12:9) and will therefore refuse to believe the real Christ, as he himself Prophesied, you will, like the "Times of Noah", ALL be executed, except for the very "Elect/Chosen" who will believe and be invited to board his Ark (the "New Jerusalem"; please see my "Close Encounters of the Gibraltar Kind" Booklet).

Only the very few people who have stayed "spiritually-awake"; have not been deceived by Organised Religions into taking the "Quick and Easy-path" (please see my "Starwars - Fact NOT Fiction" and "The Real Darth Vader" Booklets) and have searched the Scriptures for the "Birth-marks" of the real Christ and from those "Birth-marks" that tell where the body he would use would be born; in what year; from which tribe; what he would do; where he would go, and, from the Truth he speaks; will recognise, kneel and serve the True Christ; board his Ark and be saved (Rev./Apoc. ch. 21).

EVERYONE else will burn just as Jesus said (Luke 19:27). This time, unlike the "Times of Noah", when water was used, there will be no more second-chances.

After the crucifixion and the disciples had been told about how the risen Christ had unlocked the Scriptures (Prophecies) "On The Way to Emmaus" (Please see my "On The Way to Emmaus Again" Booklet), Simon Peter then was able, with that certain-Knowledge, to write, in his second letter:-

1:19 We have also the more sure Word of Prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye TAKE HEED, as unto a Light that shineth in a dark place, until the Day dawn, and the Morning Star arise in your hearts: (Revelation 22:16 - I Jesus am ............. the bright and Morning Star).
1:20 Knowing this first, that no Prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.
1:21 For the Prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke [as they were] moved by the Holy Spirit.
2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord (when he comes again in his new body) that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious (harmful) ways; by reason of whom The Way of Truth (the REAL Christ and The Way) shall be evil spoken of.
2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Simon Peter stated that "the SURE Word of Prophecy" was MORE to be taken heed of than even the voice from heaven that they had heard on the "Mount of Transfiguration", which came out of the "Bright Cloud" (UFO). Amen to that.

So, if you don't STOP listening to all, or any, of the false teachers of religions and following the "Quick and Easy-path"; search the Scriptures, for yourselves, as Simon told you to do, and find the "Signs" by which to recognise the REAL Christ, and then serve him and learn "The New Song"; you will die. There will be absolutely NO exceptions. - JAH
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Re: There is no rapture, as it is premoted by mainstream lukewarm TV preachers.
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Re: There is no rapture, as it is premoted by mainstream lukewarm TV preachers.
A televangelists only goal is to scare old ladies out of their pension checks so they can live opulent lifestyles, wear $10,000 dollar suits, fly around in private jets, take drugs and have a harem of hookers while passing themselves off as pinnacles of morality.

Televangelist(in a loud phony Holier than Thou voice): GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY OR YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY GO TO HELL BECAUSE IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE!

Old Lady's Scared Thinking: Please! Please! Take all my money! Take my pension fund! Take my Social Security! Take my life savings! I don't want to end up in Satan's firey lava furnace!

Televangelists are the scum of the Earth and more phony than professional wrestling.