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You should start feeling better soon.

Bear in mind that this is part of your past karma you're burning off, so there's a positive benefit to it. We all go through a measure of pain/suffering in life to burn off our karmas (effects from past deeds).

I've known terrible pain (on a scale of 1 to 10, was around a 15). Was so bad it literally put me in shock. Thought it was going to stop my heart. So I have a lot of empathy for those in pain.

Hang in there. Lots of prayers being sent your way by everyone here and I did QE for you, which I've never known to not help in some way -- usually miraculously.

Try this:

1. Rate your pain level on a scale from 0 to 10 with 10 being the worst.

2. Mentally "welcome" the pain by simply becoming fully 100% conscious of it. Awareness helps turn off the pain signal in the brain. It's like a red warning light in an airplane cockpit. It needs your full attention (awareness). So don't try to avoid it or distract yourself from it, and don't try to "think" about it. Just feel fully the visceral SENSATION of it without a mental story. Feel the sensation consciously full-on without resisting or wanting to change or get rid of it and even without any labels such as "pain", "hurt", "torture", etc. Just the sensation.

3. As you welcome it, you may notice your mind becomes quieter. Shift your attention 100% onto that and away from the sensation of pain. Just quietly observe the quiet or peaceful or other "good" feeling. It may deepen, lessen, or change to another feeling. Doesn't matter. Just keep watching it and if your mind drifts, come back to it.

4. After a couple minutes, rate your pain level again and see if it dropped from the initial. If so, start again at step 2 and keep going to see if you can drop it even further.

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Also, we each have our own built-in, natural opioid system. It get depleted, but we can rebuild it. Traumas and stress deplete our natural ability to produce pain-killing chemicals like endorphins. Amino acids like D-Phynylalanine help rebuild the system.

Speak with a knowledgable healthcare practitioner (preferably an integrative or functional medicine provider) to see if it's okay to follow this protocol given the drugs you're on and medical history:

Restoring the Natural Opioid System with D-Phenylalanine (DPA):
A Novel Therapeutic Approach

By Julia Ross MA, MFT

Published in Practical Pain Management, Nov/Dec 2009, Vol. 9, Issue 9, pp 29-31

The body produces its own powerful pain-modulating neurotransmitters. Chronic pain and other chronic stressors, combined with a diet low in protein, can create deficiencies in the three most critical of these pain-modulators: serotonin, gamma-amino-butyric acid (GABA), and endorphin. (1-3)In earlier articles in Practical Pain Management, we discussed the use of diet and amino acid supplementation in promoting optimal levels of serotonin and GABA. This article targets the use of diet and amino acids in the optimization of the endogenous opiates, the endorphins-our most potent natural analgesics. Endorphin is a term used to identify a group of naturally-occurring compounds that can powerfully reduce pain.(1) Primary among them are the beta-endorphins and the enkephalins. These endogenous opioids, molecule-for-molecule, are thousands of times stronger than morphine.(2,3)

... His results: "93.1% of my patients using a combination of electromagnetic current, proper diet, nutritional supplements with amino acids and meditation/relaxation experienced significant long-Iasting chronic pain relief without any pain medication. Most patients took a minimum of 1000mg of DPA four times a day initially and didn't require it for pain control after 14 days.

Full article and protocol: [link to www.moodcure.com (secure)]

Praying that you may be free of all pain, or at least greatly reduced.
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Sending LOVE and best wishes for complete healing.
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It has been 30 days since I had bi-max MMA surgery to fix a topological defect in my airway. The procedure is defined by the detachment and re-attachment of the upper and lower mandible, after moving both forward a set distance and the reattching them with titanium plates and screws. In my case it was ~ 12mm. It has, thank God, well and truly cured my sleep apnea. I was averaging 70 episodes per hour in which I would hold my breath for 30 seconds or longer.

I was dying a little bit every night. Imagine seeing a coffin instead of a bed...


The procedure required my face to be peeled back from inside my mouth. During the procedure my surgeon noticed my nostril airways were also constricted and bored them out with some kind of roto-rooter bone burr saw and then sewed all the skin back together.


I was bitten by a black widow on a nerve plexus in my left arm about a decade ago. I thought that was the most pain a person could endure. It literally slowed my perception of the passage of time it was so intense. That was nothing, I now clearly see.

I have developed atypical neuralgia in my maxillary v2 and mandibular v3 branches off my trigeminal nerve.

I close my eyes and can see the skin peeling back from my lips and chin as it is turned to ash by intense heat and fire, only to regenerate and it starts all over again. That is juxtaposed with the sensation that the skin is covered by constantly agitating and bursting pustules cause by exposure to acid or some biological agent. It absolutely has not stopped since the surgery, not even for a moment, and today is the worst day yet.

I fear walking too fast because the wind of my passage, on my face, is an inferno. Baby spoons are made of Constantino wire. The whiskers of my dogs are electrified whips.

The prognosis is good, they say, as I have recovered some feeling in the areas that were so abused by the surgery, but the possibility of 5 more months of this has despair folding me into the dark abyss of its clawed, leathery wings.


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I didn't read all of the replies, so this may have already been covered.

Diet: dump nightshade foods. They are, by nature, inflammatory. Potato, tomato, eggplant, jalapeno are the ones people most commonly intake. There are more. Depending on your sensitivity (which may be higher since the surgery), paparika, even in the smallest amount such as what is frequently used in coloring foods, could cause issues. Tomato & potato powder are commonplace in many prepared/commercial/boxed or canned items. Chili powder. Google nightshade food. AVOID!!!

Healing... you need more vitamin D3 (easy supplement to buy), you need more B vitamins (again, easy supplement to buy). You need comfrey and arnica to rub on the area. They heal, reduce swelling, blah, blah, blah. Treat things as naturally as possible, and you'll heal faster (hey, I drink, I smoke, but treating crap naturally instead of RX works better if you have a clue what you are doing, or even a tad bit of research).

You had an invasive surgery, so I'm guessing they gave you antibiotics. TAKE THEM ALL! I'm not pro-antibiotic for every tiny thing, but invasive surgeries it's best typically to go ahead and take their (*at most 14 days*) worth of the pills just to err on the side of caution.

Get a diffuser, and diffuse tea tree essential oil. If this is the only thing you will use the diffuser for, a cheap one is fine ($20). 5 drops in the diffuser, and go. Google tea tree treatment for MRSA (that will give you an idea how great tea tree is... although I'm not asserting you were even exposed to MRSA).

Plenty of clean water. Ditch the tap water that is full of chlorine. You don't have to have fancy bottled water, but good water is best. A PUR filter on your tap, or a PUR pitcher beats the crap out of the Brita (brita's are good, but they don't remove any of the heavy metals unless they updated ver recently). If you have a fridge that dispenses water after going through a filter, make sure your filter takes care of the metals, then no filter required beyond that (in the easiest view).

GOOD PROTEIN sources! Boiled eggs, for example.

D3 and B vitamins help nerves heal. Protein helps the entire body. Avoiding nightshades (inflammation) helps everything.

Rest, rest, and more rest!
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I'm not sure if it's terrible to say, but some of our GLP brethren suffer so much that it makes my suffering pale in comparison.

I have no advice for you about how to manage your pain, but you do have my well wishes issued forth for healing.

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I hear you, Cosmic Gypsy...we must pray for this poor soul that he INSTANTLY gets the help he needs. I know he will be ok, but what he is going thru right now, my heart bleeds for him...prayer to God and His Guardian Angels and St. Raphael, the physician of the church.
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Vouching for the "couple of Alleve"... it's hard onthe stomach but for a while it should be ok to take.

Helped me with my gallbladder surgery.

For what it's worth, prayers happening for you
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I'm not sure if it's terrible to say, but some of our GLP brethren suffer so much that it makes my suffering pale in comparison.

I have no advice for you about how to manage your pain, but you do have my well wishes issued forth for healing.

hugs
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I hear you, Cosmic Gypsy...we must pray for this poor soul that he INSTANTLY gets the help he needs. I know he will be ok, but what he is going thru right now, my heart bleeds for him...prayer to God and His Guardian Angels and St. Raphael, the physician of the church.
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God be with you. It will get better. Maybe, but hopefully not, sometimes even worse. But keep the goal in mind, keep Jesus with you in thankful prayer at all times.

I broke my leg and ankle and had a couple surgeries. Nothing like what you are facing, but I was also amazed at the pain. It was worse then after the accident itself!

Long story short, took months and years really, but the pain largely eases away.
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I deal with my pain by taking 3 tablespoons MSM course powder daily.

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It has been 30 days since I had bi-max MMA surgery to fix a topological defect in my airway. The procedure is defined by the detachment and re-attachment of the upper and lower mandible, after moving both forward a set distance and the reattching them with titanium plates and screws. In my case it was ~ 12mm. It has, thank God, well and truly cured my sleep apnea. I was averaging 70 episodes per hour in which I would hold my breath for 30 seconds or longer.

I was dying a little bit every night. Imagine seeing a coffin instead of a bed...


The procedure required my face to be peeled back from inside my mouth. During the procedure my surgeon noticed my nostril airways were also constricted and bored them out with some kind of roto-rooter bone burr saw and then sewed all the skin back together.


I was bitten by a black widow on a nerve plexus in my left arm about a decade ago. I thought that was the most pain a person could endure. It literally slowed my perception of the passage of time it was so intense. That was nothing, I now clearly see.

I have developed atypical neuralgia in my maxillary v2 and mandibular v3 branches off my trigeminal nerve.

I close my eyes and can see the skin peeling back from my lips and chin as it is turned to ash by intense heat and fire, only to regenerate and it starts all over again. That is juxtaposed with the sensation that the skin is covered by constantly agitating and bursting pustules cause by exposure to acid or some biological agent. It absolutely has not stopped since the surgery, not even for a moment, and today is the worst day yet.

I fear walking too fast because the wind of my passage, on my face, is an inferno. Baby spoons are made of Constantino wire. The whiskers of my dogs are electrified whips.

The prognosis is good, they say, as I have recovered some feeling in the areas that were so abused by the surgery, but the possibility of 5 more months of this has despair folding me into the dark abyss of its clawed, leathery wings.


GLP has power because the members believe.

Please send me healing thoughts and prayers, I beg you.
 Quoting: Apocalypse Troll



Your prose is breathtaking. Medical marijuana will save you. Opioids will kill you.
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I didn't read all of the replies, so this may have already been covered.

Diet: dump nightshade foods. They are, by nature, inflammatory. Potato, tomato, eggplant, jalapeno are the ones people most commonly intake. There are more. Depending on your sensitivity (which may be higher since the surgery), paparika, even in the smallest amount such as what is frequently used in coloring foods, could cause issues. Tomato & potato powder are commonplace in many prepared/commercial/boxed or canned items. Chili powder. Google nightshade food. AVOID!!!

Healing... you need more vitamin D3 (easy supplement to buy), you need more B vitamins (again, easy supplement to buy). You need comfrey and arnica to rub on the area. They heal, reduce swelling, blah, blah, blah. Treat things as naturally as possible, and you'll heal faster (hey, I drink, I smoke, but treating crap naturally instead of RX works better if you have a clue what you are doing, or even a tad bit of research).

You had an invasive surgery, so I'm guessing they gave you antibiotics. TAKE THEM ALL! I'm not pro-antibiotic for every tiny thing, but invasive surgeries it's best typically to go ahead and take their (*at most 14 days*) worth of the pills just to err on the side of caution.

Get a diffuser, and diffuse tea tree essential oil. If this is the only thing you will use the diffuser for, a cheap one is fine ($20). 5 drops in the diffuser, and go. Google tea tree treatment for MRSA (that will give you an idea how great tea tree is... although I'm not asserting you were even exposed to MRSA).

Plenty of clean water. Ditch the tap water that is full of chlorine. You don't have to have fancy bottled water, but good water is best. A PUR filter on your tap, or a PUR pitcher beats the crap out of the Brita (brita's are good, but they don't remove any of the heavy metals unless they updated ver recently). If you have a fridge that dispenses water after going through a filter, make sure your filter takes care of the metals, then no filter required beyond that (in the easiest view).

GOOD PROTEIN sources! Boiled eggs, for example.

D3 and B vitamins help nerves heal. Protein helps the entire body. Avoiding nightshades (inflammation) helps everything.

Rest, rest, and more rest!
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Sounds like good tips. Also, don't forget the key may be to also take vitamin C. Why? That will help your stomach absorb all other nutrients better.
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"time - for the living"

pain is inevitable
suffering an option
numb with opiates
distract with cannabinoids

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rose


...please get to an acupuncturist asap... you have severely blocked meridians caused by the surgery...

In the meantime, rub castor oil on, and massage the insides of your wrists...

grouphug


I am so sorry you are going through this...

Prayers for your relief....

hugs

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My surgeon will write me a referral / script for acupuncture tomorrow.

I agree that will give me the greatest relief. I must manage the cause, not the symptoms. DMSO and opiates and Kratom and Tylenol are all fine and good, but pain is a symptom.

The source of pain, the raw, tortured nerves that are like guitar strings wound to breaking and being played manically, those must be soothed and urged to repair themselves and their electrical flow.


With the exception of time, nothing else will do that as well as acupuncture.
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Have you looked into Benfotiamine? It is the only water soluble B1 vitamin, developed in Japan. It is essential for healing damaged nerves. I had bad nerve pain in my wrist and an old doctor prescibed it here in Germany. It healed my nerve damage. Painkillers only help for the symptoms but you need to heal the damaged nerves!
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Please go to the dr for your pain. Don't take Tylenol because it will wreck your liver. Don't take Motrin either because it can wreck your kidneys. People think that crap is safe because its over the counter but its not. There are people on dialysis over Motrin. I know this because I have kidney disease and I am not allowed to touch the stuff.

I have had 4 major surgeries and I am here to tell you gabapentin is crap. All the heck that stuff ever did for me is give me a raging head ache that felt like my brain was on fire. What did work was Oxy for one of the more painful surgeries and Vicodin when they pulled out all of my teeth.

What you really need is a Dr though. I will pray that you get some relief. Oh and don't let them give you tylenol 3. I was on that for a few days and they might as well have given me M&Ms for all the good it did.
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Shiatsu Pressure Point Therapy

Press with light 15lb finger/thumb pressure for 15 secs each.

massage the nerve deep in the web between the thumb and first finger, each hand.

massage between the wrist bones, 1 inch above the wrist joint, on the outside of the wrist...each wrist.

massage with the thumb, between the shoulder and elbow/between the tricep and bicep muscle...deep pressure..you'll feel the nerve.

this takes pain away from all face and head pain.
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I am thankful to all of you and touched by your comments and suggestions.




I have slept through the night for the first time in weeks.




The DMSO had no effect on my lips last night, but I was scared to put too much on as pure DMSO can cause hives and boils on sensitive skin so I only used enough to test my lips to see if they would have a reaction.

My pain has returned, but it seems to have less power over me somehow.

I am going to take some aloe from a plant I have had for a decade that has populated my property and mix it with DMSO for my lips and chin 70% DMSO/ 30% aloe. I will let you guys know if that helps.

This shows the relocation of my mandibles. The six bone break points are hardly swollen or painful and are only mildly inconvenient. I will be on a liquid diet for another 2 weeks, and a soft chew only (no chips, steak, etc...) for months. Sorry for the poor quality.

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Lord, I pray that OP would reach out
and touch the hem of Your garment.
Father, you are all knowing, and we
never know what greater purpose You may
have for the trials and pains that we
go through, as Job, but if it be Your
will, please give OP relief from this
torment.
In Jesus name,
AMEN
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Go buy some Kratom and CBD oil. Trust me.
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Lord, I pray that OP would reach out
and touch the hem of Your garment.
Father, you are all knowing, and we
never know what greater purpose You may
have for the trials and pains that we
go through, as Job, but if it be Your
will, please give OP relief from this
torment.
In Jesus name,
AMEN
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AMEN !!!
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You're not a patient you're a customer.
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Lord, I pray that OP would reach out
and touch the hem of Your garment.
Father, you are all knowing, and we
never know what greater purpose You may
have for the trials and pains that we
go through, as Job, but if it be Your
will, please give OP relief from this
torment.
In Jesus name,
AMEN
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AMEN !!!
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Beautiful prayer.
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I am so very sorry to hear this! Will certainly keep you in my thoughts and prayers for swift and full healing!
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The DMSO and all your fantastic positive energy has cut the pain on my chin by about 1/2, thank God. I can live with a camp fire after 30 days of rocket engine.


I'm going to put it on my lips now and try to smile for the first time in a month.



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So happy for you! Keep smiling. Watch funny shows/movies. Laugh. It will help you heal faster and helps so much with pain. Know that you are not alone and many people are praying for you. It has only been 30 days and know it will get better every minute of the day.

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OP, the trigeminal clearly was damaged during the surgery. It was almost unavoidable in your case; it can be damaged even during routine oral surgery. Typical synthetic opioid pain killers don't do much for damaged nerve pain, as you're seeing.

You need to get on top of this pronto, or it could become a permanent pain situation -chronic neuralgia, and all its attendant issues. Need to reverse the neural pathway of the pain ASAP. And it *can* be healed.

Do this:

Get Benfotiamine, 300 mg. Take one twice a day, every single day.

Get *SUB LINGUAL* methylcobalamin, 5000 mcg. Not cyanocobalamin; it is far less bio-available. Dissolve one under your tongue every single day.

This combination will vastly accelerate healing of the damaged nerve, putting a stop to the neural-brain path. Clinical studies (not widely reported in this country, cuz big pharma would rather sell their drugs) bear this out. Have myself observed the healing of a doctor-predicted permanent neuralgic problem in someone who followed the protocol. Pretty amazing.

Just do this, along with the DMSO. It at least won't harm you, and I feel certain it will help. BTW, stay far far away from anything containing acetaminophen. It is notorious for causing chemical-induced hepatitis.

My sincerest sympathies, and God speed! Please try the protocol.
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Very interesting. Never heard of Benfotiamine. Learn something everyday. Sounds like very good advice and it is not expensive. That stuff is good for diabetic nerve pain also.
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Ordered both from Amazon, arrives tomorrow for 7 bucks overnight shipping.
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I didn't read all of the replies, so this may have already been covered.

Diet: dump nightshade foods. They are, by nature, inflammatory. Potato, tomato, eggplant, jalapeno are the ones people most commonly intake. There are more. Depending on your sensitivity (which may be higher since the surgery), paparika, even in the smallest amount such as what is frequently used in coloring foods, could cause issues. Tomato & potato powder are commonplace in many prepared/commercial/boxed or canned items. Chili powder. Google nightshade food. AVOID!!!

Healing... you need more vitamin D3 (easy supplement to buy), you need more B vitamins (again, easy supplement to buy). You need comfrey and arnica to rub on the area. They heal, reduce swelling, blah, blah, blah. Treat things as naturally as possible, and you'll heal faster (hey, I drink, I smoke, but treating crap naturally instead of RX works better if you have a clue what you are doing, or even a tad bit of research).

You had an invasive surgery, so I'm guessing they gave you antibiotics. TAKE THEM ALL! I'm not pro-antibiotic for every tiny thing, but invasive surgeries it's best typically to go ahead and take their (*at most 14 days*) worth of the pills just to err on the side of caution.

Get a diffuser, and diffuse tea tree essential oil. If this is the only thing you will use the diffuser for, a cheap one is fine ($20). 5 drops in the diffuser, and go. Google tea tree treatment for MRSA (that will give you an idea how great tea tree is... although I'm not asserting you were even exposed to MRSA).

Plenty of clean water. Ditch the tap water that is full of chlorine. You don't have to have fancy bottled water, but good water is best. A PUR filter on your tap, or a PUR pitcher beats the crap out of the Brita (brita's are good, but they don't remove any of the heavy metals unless they updated ver recently). If you have a fridge that dispenses water after going through a filter, make sure your filter takes care of the metals, then no filter required beyond that (in the easiest view).

GOOD PROTEIN sources! Boiled eggs, for example.

D3 and B vitamins help nerves heal. Protein helps the entire body. Avoiding nightshades (inflammation) helps everything.

Rest, rest, and more rest!
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Good advice. This thread has really been helpful and am going to save it.

And OP has to remember to restore the good flora after he has taken antibiotics. He can take kombucha, kefir, yogurt, or just supplements but he must take something.
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Ordered both from Amazon, arrives tomorrow for 7 bucks overnight shipping.
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You are going to heal up really well.

And because you reached out on this thread I bet others are going to benefit from all this info. I know I am and will help others as well. I know a lot but didn't know this much about pain and healing nerve damage.

Speedy healing!
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Holy crap that sounds horrible OP. Prayer said for your comfort and healing.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I am thankful to all of you and touched by your comments and suggestions.




I have slept through the night for the first time in weeks.




The DMSO had no effect on my lips last night, but I was scared to put too much on as pure DMSO can cause hives and boils on sensitive skin so I only used enough to test my lips to see if they would have a reaction.

My pain has returned, but it seems to have less power over me somehow.

I am going to take some aloe from a plant I have had for a decade that has populated my property and mix it with DMSO for my lips and chin 70% DMSO/ 30% aloe. I will let you guys know if that helps.

This shows the relocation of my mandibles. The six bone break points are hardly swollen or painful and are only mildly inconvenient. I will be on a liquid diet for another 2 weeks, and a soft chew only (no chips, steak, etc...) for months. Sorry for the poor quality.

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For all the energy and prayers you have sent me, all the advice both good and poor, and all the hope you have given me I thank you.

May your lives be filled with harmony and peace, and I pray to God that all of us be free from strife, pain, and hate.
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Thank God





GLP