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Beware of smoke and mirrors...reverse psychology.

 
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"We must rapidly begin the shift from a thing-oriented society to a person-oriented society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights, are considered more important than people" ~ Martin L King Junior. 1967..
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left and right wing of the same FLIGHTLESS bird
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I believe you must educate yourself using many different sources (books, newspapers, magazines etc.) There are so many complicated layers in news reporting. It takes years to be able to read between the lines in any news report and discern the reliability of its sources. "Trust but verify."
 Quoting: Toprance1


They are working their hardest to omit books and non-electronic media references too. Look at all the Kindle type apps that exist. Kids nowadays couldn't use a card catalog in a library if they had to, I don't belive. Nearly all the schools have Tablets (electronic) that they use in place of books. Encyclopedias are practically obsolete. All the news can be read for free on your cell phone. Now, what happens when those electronics can't be charged up? It's all gone. Without books, history is erased and ignorance becomes commonplace. History is what makes a culture. Culture makes unity. Without these things, a dictator easily takes over.
"They can only hold you down if you let them".
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More than anyone else, John Brennan is the source of the "smoke and mirrors."
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OP, you are at a level of awareness at the moment. You are not aware of the Divine intervention that is here at this time. I am not religious.
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Just a thought here. I believe all this "new" revelation about "fake news" is being used to keep us all conflicted as to what to belive. If we can't belive anything, how can we unite for any cause? Mass confusion is a control measure. I fear Trump may be part of the game in this matter too. No, I'm not bashing Trump. I'm just saying that I don't think he's calling it out for the reasons everyone thinks he is. I think all are involved. If we can't believe any news sources, we can't believe what we may hear. They will use controlling "fake news" to hide things more than they already do. I think we should be careful of reverse psychology...smoke and mirrors.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


I can't agree with this because of this ...

Thread: President elect Trump takes on MSM in a BRILLIANT WAY!

Trump is setting up his OWN news corps to combat 'fake news'.
 Quoting: Mozark Granny


This is the smoke and mirrors, reverse psychology I speak of. All the supposed hate toward Trump and all the "fake news" claims he makes...might be just the opposite of what is being said. Lies being used to manipulate the populace into following and compliance.
"They can only hold you down if you let them".
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I agree, but it has been going on for decades.
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The scary part is that so many people don't see it.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


I agree! The confusion is what they want. They don't want people to be able to discern/discrimate the truth. They don't want people to "think."

There's never been a time more important than now to have clear discernment at every level.

Great thread btw! hf
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Just a thought here. I believe all this "new" revelation about "fake news" is being used to keep us all conflicted as to what to belive. If we can't belive anything, how can we unite for any cause? Mass confusion is a control measure. I fear Trump may be part of the game in this matter too. No, I'm not bashing Trump. I'm just saying that I don't think he's calling it out for the reasons everyone thinks he is. I think all are involved. If we can't believe any news sources, we can't believe what we may hear. They will use controlling "fake news" to hide things more than they already do. I think we should be careful of reverse psychology...smoke and mirrors.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


I can't agree with this because of this ...

Thread: President elect Trump takes on MSM in a BRILLIANT WAY!

Trump is setting up his OWN news corps to combat 'fake news'.
 Quoting: Mozark Granny


This is the smoke and mirrors, reverse psychology I speak of. All the supposed hate toward Trump and all the "fake news" claims he makes...might be just the opposite of what is being said. Lies being used to manipulate the populace into following and compliance.
 Quoting: Lost Lady



They are doing whatever it takes to hide what is in the sky.
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I believe you must educate yourself using many different sources (books, newspapers, magazines etc.) There are so many complicated layers in news reporting. It takes years to be able to read between the lines in any news report and discern the reliability of its sources. "Trust but verify."
 Quoting: Toprance1


They are working their hardest to omit books and non-electronic media references too. Look at all the Kindle type apps that exist. Kids nowadays couldn't use a card catalog in a library if they had to, I don't belive. Nearly all the schools have Tablets (electronic) that they use in place of books. Encyclopedias are practically obsolete. All the news can be read for free on your cell phone. Now, what happens when those electronics can't be charged up? It's all gone. Without books, history is erased and ignorance becomes commonplace. History is what makes a culture. Culture makes unity. Without these things, a dictator easily takes over.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


Very good point.
I have thought that too. Any book could slowly and subtly be changed on the internet into anything. Total control.

I'm keeping ALL my books safe. I hear that a set of encyclopedias is worth a lot of money now.

I love books that I can hold and have covers etc. a physical book.
All this technology is bad. Evil. It is not progress at all.

Look at all the ancient scrolls/writings that have been found buried, stored in caves, etc. I think this exact thing has happened before. We know they burned books in the past. It looks to me that the ancient people tried everything to tell us things. Cave paintings, dances, music, art, all sorts of different things were made to communicate with us.
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Yeah and every1 seems to love Trump. For me he works for the lucifer. But I understand, I believe that those mexico immigrants are annoying and wall is needed. Hes better of candidates but does it really matter whose the president?
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I agree, but it has been going on for decades.
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The scary part is that so many people don't see it.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


I agree! The confusion is what they want. They don't want people to be able to discern/discrimate the truth. They don't want people to "think."

There's never been a time more important than now to have clear discernment at every level.

Great thread btw! hf
 Quoting: Sunshyne


Thank you! And, I completely agree. It's just hard to get this idea across, because people are more concerned about their pride than they are to take a step back and reevaluate both the new and old ideas/opinions they hold. Hold as absolute truth, no matter what proof may show up against it.
"They can only hold you down if you let them".
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Trust Trump, because he gives you no reason to not trust him. Unlike other politicians who are career liars.

America is embracing it's last chance at freedom.

Thank GOD!
 Quoting: -Adam-


Are you so sure he's not just part of the deception? Look who he's picking for his staff. Are you positive he's not just a smoke and mirrors act? His ties with Soros and Rothschilds go nearly as deep as Hillary. Plus, he owes them...
 Quoting: Lost Lady


I'm not sure about Trump.
I voted for him and support him and I hope his intentions are as it seems but I know nothing is as it appears. I truly pray and hope that God the Father is with/in him. May it be so if it is not.

What makes me trust him more is that Hollywood and these other Pedo, blood drinking creeps hate him so bad and are not giving up on their crying
and plans to get rid of him.

Either way- hold on a little longer- The KING approaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73292097


That's exactly why I'm not sure now about Trump BECAUSE they are seeming so angry. It is after all Hollywood. My opinion, it is to make the masses feel we've won and then the celebs will come around to Trump where we will all agree on uniting (new world order). Maybe its been answered and I missed it : Has/Is Trump been or currently a member of a secret society?
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I believe you must educate yourself using many different sources (books, newspapers, magazines etc.) There are so many complicated layers in news reporting. It takes years to be able to read between the lines in any news report and discern the reliability of its sources. "Trust but verify."
 Quoting: Toprance1


They are working their hardest to omit books and non-electronic media references too. Look at all the Kindle type apps that exist. Kids nowadays couldn't use a card catalog in a library if they had to, I don't belive. Nearly all the schools have Tablets (electronic) that they use in place of books. Encyclopedias are practically obsolete. All the news can be read for free on your cell phone. Now, what happens when those electronics can't be charged up? It's all gone. Without books, history is erased and ignorance becomes commonplace. History is what makes a culture. Culture makes unity. Without these things, a dictator easily takes over.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


Very good point.
I have thought that too. Any book could slowly and subtly be changed on the internet into anything. Total control.

I'm keeping ALL my books safe. I hear that a set of encyclopedias is worth a lot of money now.

I love books that I can hold and have covers etc. a physical book.
All this technology is bad. Evil. It is not progress at all.

Look at all the ancient scrolls/writings that have been found buried, stored in caves, etc. I think this exact thing has happened before. We know they burned books in the past. It looks to me that the ancient people tried everything to tell us things. Cave paintings, dances, music, art, all sorts of different things were made to communicate with us.
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I love books too! I've a ton of them. I'll not get rid of any either.
"They can only hold you down if you let them".
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Just a thought here. I believe all this "new" revelation about "fake news" is being used to keep us all conflicted as to what to belive. If we can't belive anything, how can we unite for any cause? Mass confusion is a control measure. I fear Trump may be part of the game in this matter too. No, I'm not bashing Trump. I'm just saying that I don't think he's calling it out for the reasons everyone thinks he is. I think all are involved. If we can't believe any news sources, we can't believe what we may hear. They will use controlling "fake news" to hide things more than they already do. I think we should be careful of reverse psychology...smoke and mirrors.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


I can't agree with this because of this ...

Thread: President elect Trump takes on MSM in a BRILLIANT WAY!

Trump is setting up his OWN news corps to combat 'fake news'.
 Quoting: Mozark Granny


This is the smoke and mirrors, reverse psychology I speak of. All the supposed hate toward Trump and all the "fake news" claims he makes...might be just the opposite of what is being said. Lies being used to manipulate the populace into following and compliance.
 Quoting: Lost Lady



They are doing whatever it takes to hide what is in the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36029018


Yes.
I sometimes wonder if it is only those with open third eyes who can see what is and has been going on in the sky.
It amazes me how many do not notice at all!
How can they not notice????
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I agree, but it has been going on for decades.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72630548


The scary part is that so many people don't see it.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


I agree! The confusion is what they want. They don't want people to be able to discern/discrimate the truth. They don't want people to "think."

There's never been a time more important than now to have clear discernment at every level.

Great thread btw! hf
 Quoting: Sunshyne


Thank you! And, I completely agree. It's just hard to get this idea across, because people are more concerned about their pride than they are to take a step back and reevaluate both the new and old ideas/opinions they hold. Hold as absolute truth, no matter what proof may show up against it.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


Yes, I agree! And thank *YOU*!!!

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OP, you are at a level of awareness at the moment. You are not aware of the Divine intervention that is here at this time. I am not religious.
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Forgive my ignorance, will you please elaborate?

hf
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Trust Trump, because he gives you no reason to not trust him. Unlike other politicians who are career liars.

America is embracing it's last chance at freedom.

Thank GOD!
 Quoting: -Adam-


Are you so sure he's not just part of the deception? Look who he's picking for his staff. Are you positive he's not just a smoke and mirrors act? His ties with Soros and Rothschilds go nearly as deep as Hillary. Plus, he owes them...
 Quoting: Lost Lady


I'm not sure about Trump.
I voted for him and support him and I hope his intentions are as it seems but I know nothing is as it appears. I truly pray and hope that God the Father is with/in him. May it be so if it is not.

What makes me trust him more is that Hollywood and these other Pedo, blood drinking creeps hate him so bad and are not giving up on their crying
and plans to get rid of him.

Either way- hold on a little longer- The KING approaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73292097


That's exactly why I'm not sure now about Trump BECAUSE they are seeming so angry. It is after all Hollywood. My opinion, it is to make the masses feel we've won and then the celebs will come around to Trump where we will all agree on uniting (new world order). Maybe its been answered and I missed it : Has/Is Trump been or currently a member of a secret society?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55002485


We have a winner!
"They can only hold you down if you let them".
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I believe you must educate yourself using many different sources (books, newspapers, magazines etc.) There are so many complicated layers in news reporting. It takes years to be able to read between the lines in any news report and discern the reliability of its sources. "Trust but verify."
 Quoting: Toprance1


They are working their hardest to omit books and non-electronic media references too. Look at all the Kindle type apps that exist. Kids nowadays couldn't use a card catalog in a library if they had to, I don't belive. Nearly all the schools have Tablets (electronic) that they use in place of books. Encyclopedias are practically obsolete. All the news can be read for free on your cell phone. Now, what happens when those electronics can't be charged up? It's all gone. Without books, history is erased and ignorance becomes commonplace. History is what makes a culture. Culture makes unity. Without these things, a dictator easily takes over.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


Very good point.
I have thought that too. Any book could slowly and subtly be changed on the internet into anything. Total control.

I'm keeping ALL my books safe. I hear that a set of encyclopedias is worth a lot of money now.

I love books that I can hold and have covers etc. a physical book.
All this technology is bad. Evil. It is not progress at all.

Look at all the ancient scrolls/writings that have been found buried, stored in caves, etc. I think this exact thing has happened before. We know they burned books in the past. It looks to me that the ancient people tried everything to tell us things. Cave paintings, dances, music, art, all sorts of different things were made to communicate with us.
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I love books too! I've a ton of them. I'll not get rid of any either.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


Me too!! ohyeah
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cheers

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Yeah, you guys are right. They are actors.

We need to pay attention to every detail and report in what we observe.
Even if you think it is not worthy of notice- report in what you notice.
Everything and let's keep comparing notes.
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Just a thought here. I believe all this "new" revelation about "fake news" is being used to keep us all conflicted as to what to belive. If we can't belive anything, how can we unite for any cause? Mass confusion is a control measure. I fear Trump may be part of the game in this matter too. No, I'm not bashing Trump. I'm just saying that I don't think he's calling it out for the reasons everyone thinks he is. I think all are involved. If we can't believe any news sources, we can't believe what we may hear. They will use controlling "fake news" to hide things more than they already do. I think we should be careful of reverse psychology...smoke and mirrors.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


Great points. Especially about Trump. At least he has exposed the media in recent months quite extensively.
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Yeah, you guys are right. They are actors.

We need to pay attention to every detail and report in what we observe.
Even if you think it is not worthy of notice- report in what you notice.
Everything and let's keep comparing notes.
 Quoting: Goddess of the sea 1 73292097


I agree! hf
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Does this mean Trump will not appeal Obama care, prove that Obama has a fake birth certificate?

Will Trump build a wall and put Clinton in jail?

Will he abolish the IRS?
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Has it been answered about Trump and secret societies?
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Does this mean Trump will not appeal Obama care, prove that Obama has a fake birth certificate?

Will Trump build a wall and put Clinton in jail?

Will he abolish the IRS?
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Trump didn't prove Obama had a fake birth certificate
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OP, you are at a level of awareness at the moment. You are not aware of the Divine intervention that is here at this time. I am not religious.
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Forgive my ignorance, will you please elaborate?

hf
 Quoting: Lost Lady



I am the same AC that said they are trying to hide what is in the sky. Chemtrails for example are not what most people think as they have been made to believe by the controlled opposition in the alternative media. The sun at the moment is not as things used to be..much about this most people are not aware.. some are in this forum and even those that think they do know only know part..all is being hidden very much under our noses. Perhaps you can read some of my prior comments and that might give you an idea of what I am pointing to. It is all right in front of our eyes. Like I said there are layers/levels of awareness. Great thread.. I am sure it is helping some to a new level of awareness.
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Yeah, you guys are right. They are actors.

We need to pay attention to every detail and report in what we observe.
Even if you think it is not worthy of notice- report in what you notice.
Everything and let's keep comparing notes.
 Quoting: Goddess of the sea 1 73292097


Yes. As much as I hate to give credit to the douche bags, these people are not stupid or careless. They are calculated and purposeful in all they do. Everything they do is preplanned to perfection. If it looks like they are being stupid, careless, going against something/someone, angry, sad, or happy...know the truth is really the opposite.
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When you give something a name, you give it power. For example, there was just a whole bunch of companies selling tobacco and a whole bunch of companies selling sugar. When you call them "Big Tobacco" and "Big Sugar", you make them into some personification of evil, associating them to our worst fears.

The same thing happened with Weapons of Mass Destruction. Sounds terrifying and like it might hurt us. Fear is a powerful tool.

Lately we use the word "hacking", although only a few people understand what it means and don't necessarily completely agree on a definition. Hacking has become a synonym for spying and betrayal. Betrayal is a close cousin of fear.

Fake News is just giving a name to something that has existed forever. Rumor and lies spouted by both established and amateur news and media. It's designed to keep you afraid. Combine it with stories about hacking and Russia (a big scary monster to some people) and it's a complete scam.

It isn't reverse psychology though - it's just common mythology. Relate something to your internal basic fears by giving it a name. Provide a sense of fear and betrayal to make you lose trust in your reality. Once they have you off balance, they go in for the kill.
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Why do people read the National Enquirer?

Fake news, conspiracies, etc are a part of every healthy culture. Extremes provide an anchor where the public discerns the truth in the middle.

Unhealthy cultures do not use parody or conspiracies. The truth is a highly-controlled monotone drumbeat.

If anything, "fake news" is actually helping Trump - It dilutes the extremes allowing for him to remain unfiltered.

But here is the key - "fake news" historically alters the public's allowance for hypocrisy by allowing a greater tolerance for today's ridiculous headline. After all, if tomorrow will brings something new and even more ridiculous, why worry about it at all?

This is how power wields extreme measures right under our noses. The public learns to not pay attention.
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Just a thought here. I believe all this "new" revelation about "fake news" is being used to keep us all conflicted as to what to belive. If we can't belive anything, how can we unite for any cause? Mass confusion is a control measure. I fear Trump may be part of the game in this matter too. No, I'm not bashing Trump. I'm just saying that I don't think he's calling it out for the reasons everyone thinks he is. I think all are involved. If we can't believe any news sources, we can't believe what we may hear. They will use controlling "fake news" to hide things more than they already do. I think we should be careful of reverse psychology...smoke and mirrors.
 Quoting: Lost Lady


Sorry. "Fake News" from the MSM is real. My LOCAL CBS news just this morning put out their version of it.

They reported all in one segment/sentence that Trump had cancelled his visit to some Negro history museum this morning. They said this comes after his tweet attacks on John Lewis, a MLK marcher, for attacking his legitimacy. They then said that several D congressmen are also planning on boycotting the inaugural.

So, by them lumping all these "facts" together, they created the impression that Trumps cancellation on MLK day was out of spite. FAKE NEWS.
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I fear we may be falling prey to a huge and global act of confusion. Yes, all preplanned and has been in the works for a very long time. Certainly, not a "new" finding.
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Project blue beam?