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The Prophecy of Lucifer in Isaiah 14 (Evangelicals One Starred Without Reading)

 
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The Prophecy of Lucifer in Isaiah 14 (Evangelicals One Starred Without Reading)
When Elohim (God) created "The Living Man" (Man) they did so in their (plural), image, form, or likeness.

The Gospel of Thomas, which is mainly for the sake of "The Paraclete" talks about the true understanding of Genesis and Revelation and the importance for "The Paraclete" to understand his image, form, or likeness, even when his form is demonized by the people who don't understand.

83. Jesus said, "Images are visible to people, but the light within them is hidden in the image of the Father's light. He will be disclosed, but his image is hidden by his light."

84. Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before you and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will have to bear!"
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The importance of Eden is that it's the Key to understanding likeness. Elohim (Masculine-Feminine), "The Living Man" (Masculine-Feminine), and The Serpent (Genderless) are one entity.

18. The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us, how will our end come?"

Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.

Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being before coming into being.

If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you. For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."

The five Trees in Paradise are the Trees or Stones which are not Trees or Stones. In the same way the plural aspects of Elohim are one and Adam-Eve are one, all five forms are one entity.

16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war.
For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone (as one)."

4. Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child seven days
old about the place of life, and that person will live. For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one."

When you understand what is happening in Eden you can go onto understanding the parable of the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" and "The Tree of Life"

When God commanded Man to not eat from "The Knowledge of Good and Evil" this in no way had anything to do with morality but likeness. Simply put, the confusion of good and evil upon the likeness of the entity blinds the entity from seeing The Life or Light within the forms.

I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. - Isaiah 45:5-7

Here it's made very clear that YHWH (Elohim), makes good (peace) and evil. Some gnostics misunderstand this to mean moral good and evil but it is very clearly referring to form, image, or likeness that is called good and evil. YHWH also makes it clear that there is no other God or Adversary (Satan) "There'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone"

So this brings us to the "Lucifer" passage in Isaiah 14:12.

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" In verse 10, Isaiah prefaces that Lucifer is being accused by the nations. The whole chapter is from the accusing point of the nations and not Isaiah or The LORD.

"All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?" - Isaiah 14:10

To understand Isaiah 14:12 you have to read all of Isaiah 14 in context of Genesis being allegorical for the manifestation of The Paraclete to understand that it's a prophecy in allegorical form. The so called "King of Babylon" or "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14 is actually Yeshua and The Paraclete, who are both YHWH himself. Isaiah 14:22 on, YHWH is saying how he's going to ascend and destroy the "Babylon Lie" and the accusers saying he is the "King of Babylon" and establish a Zion.

22 For I will rise up against them, saith the Lord of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the Lord.

32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the Lord hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.

Furthermore and Finally in Revelation Yeshua confirms all of this.

And he that overcometh (The Paraclete), and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star! - Revelation 2:26

Yeshua is the morning star. Along with the power and authority to rule and weaken the nations, Yeshua gives "The Paraclete" the "morning star"

Notice how "The Paraclete" is the one who "weakens the nations" and is called "morning star"

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer (morning star), son of the morning! howart thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! - Isaiah 14:12

Yeshua was directly referencing Isaiah when he spoke in Revelation and making it very clear what was happening to him and what would happen to The Paraclete.

There is no Satan.

Father against Son and Son against Father and they will be ALONE. This is not about people's households in the last days, wake up people.

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When you understand all of this you can know that The First Beast of Revelation 13 is YHWH of Hosea 13:8.

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Haha, gospel of thomas.

"son" and "star"

Can't see the difference?

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
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Haha, gospel of thomas.

"son" and "star"

Can't see the difference?

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Lucifer is the word meaning Morningstar moron. Why don't you actually fucking pay attention to what you're reading next time.
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Difference noted:

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One can not compare just two verses.

Really there are so many other ones describing the falling of Lucifer from Jesus's testimony and he wasn't talking about Himself either.

Lucifer's power was weakened with Jesus sacrifice on our behalf. A new covenant were the laws that were in the mind were now going to be manifested in the hearts of Man from GOD.

the Law killed because no one was perfect enough to keep them. Our sin nature immediately caused us to fall into the death trap of laws.

With the tool of redemption now available Lucifer did in fact loose his grip on humanity. His pride of power against the FATHER was now done.

The verses spoken of in Revelation was to the different ways in which congregations and leaders act in their worship to GOD. This last one accepted the Jezebel's effects on others and they put up with her ungodliness in their faces. Read about her and find she is with the fallen ones.

Hang on He says to what is right. In the end the meek and those who truely Believe and do as GOD said will be given the earth. "The meek shall inheret the earth.


There are so many cross references to help decipher your thoughts away from your conclusion.

There will be a false Messiah. Truely many have made idols of Him and this has become the false ones.

The deceiver does aweful manipulations. Lucifer is not dumb and both Jesus and Lucifer are from the heavens. ONE was cast out and no longer has the power to condemn. The other, Jesus, has been given the rights to judge because He chose to obey and not fight any of GOD's demands from Him not even to save Himself while in flesh like us. Jesus humbled Himself. Lucifer prides himself.

There are differences in even who the object of discussion is.

Revelation is for the leaders of churches and also for the congregation as warnings.

Lucifer is not our judge. He lost that with all the back and forth ego trials on us. Whereas Jesus, lowered Himself to help us be free from the bonds of the effects of disobediance.

Admitting, confessing, and changing towards GOD is the way with Faith.

Lucifer wants us to do as we please and be glad he will be the one to give anything we want with his price against GOD.

Very different.

Look at the charecter of Jesus first than decide
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You didn't even read what I wrote. You read the Subject and started spouting dogmatic nonsense. I gave much more than two verses. I know the place where Jesus talks about witnessing Satan fall from heaven. Luke 10:18 and after taking the whole bible in to context I believe it was attributed to Jesus rather than an authentic statement made by Jesus.

I really wish you unintellectual liars would actually read what I write and respond or just not respond but no all you do is "one star" me and repeat your unitellectual nonsense. I read your entire response but I don't feel like you deserve my attention as you didn't afford me yours.

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Haha, gospel of thomas.

"son" and "star"

Can't see the difference?

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Lucifer is the word meaning Morningstar moron. Why don't you actually fucking pay attention to what you're reading next time.
 Quoting: LV.CI.EL


Lucifer does not mean morning star.

And there is a very recurring theme in the Bible, where Mastema, who you call lucifer, copies God's only Son, making it a symbolic inverse.

Look to Revelations to see that the antichrist will be a resurrected man, of flesh and blood, who was, and is not, but who will be again.

The biggest lie ever told is that there is no devil.

Christ calls him the "liar from the beginning" (meaning Eden).

Mastema, his name in Jubilees, means "hatred:.

Al-satan means "adversary".

Christ also calls him the accuser, who accuses mankind before God's throne, day and night.

Christ also says that He is never be the one who accuses us at the final judgement. He says it is Mastema who will do that.

Christ died so that he could take on all of our sins.

Without accepting Him for who and what he is, he cannot intercede for you.
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King James Bible
The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, a tribe as to which Moses said nothing about priests


I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth

King James Bible
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting
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The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, a tribe as to which Moses said nothing about priests


I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth

King James Bible
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting

Doesn't the Scripture say that the Christ will come from the line of David and from Bethlehem, the village where David lived?"
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For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace
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For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace
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And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof
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To the one who is victorious, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne
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To the one who is victorious, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne
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To the one who is victorious, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne


And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird

False gospel of thomas an abomination of the papal antichrist
And the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth

They Fall pope
and your Babylon
Falls
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jesus Christ is the bright morning star
And he is King of Kings And Lord of Lords
The Son of God The Mighty God
God The Word made flesh
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Didn't get any further than "the "gospel"
of Thomas. Utter baloney.

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The word Lucifer is taken from the Latin Vulgate, which translates (hebrew) as lucifer, meaning "the morning star, the planet Venus", or, as an adjective, "light-bringing"
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Very inspiring, thank you to share my friend rose
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