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NeKromAncy User ID: 70606691 United States 02/02/2017 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NeKromAncy ... It the link I provided it says: The rock was given to Willem Drees, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin following their moon mission 50 years ago. That link is wrong. It (and those that directly quote it) is the only source that says that. All others and those that did more research agree with what I said. to bad wikipedia doesnt agree with you [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Are you sure? this is what Wikipedia says "Drees received it as a private gift on October 9, 1969 from then-US ambassador J. William Middendorf" regardless who gave it to them, its fake...funny that once they found it to be fake they claim it wasnt an actual REAL moonrock given by NASA. I believe they are all fake, just like every bullshit trip they faked to the moon..around the van allen radiation belts lol... that was the funniests line yet too.you all can say NASA went to the moon till you are blue in the face. I call bullshit, or better yet DO IT AGAIN. but of course they wont, cuz they cant |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73048668 United States 02/02/2017 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I so get tired of idiots like you. There are a thousand proofs we went there. But, I will just give you one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72980562 I have personally examined quite a number of the moon rocks. If you look at them under an electron microscope, you will see inclusions that are as small as 1/10,000 of an inch from micro meteorites. If those rocks were from earth, there is zero, zero, and I mean zero probability such inclusions would be there. THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE WOULD HAVE NEVER LET THOSE MICRO METEORITES THROUGH TO IMPACT THOSE ROCKS!!! DUMBASS. There are hundreds of pounds of such rocks. So, Einstein, where the fuck did those rocks come from??? maybe someone went to the moon, but not the way we have been told |
Relativity User ID: 69703057 United States 02/02/2017 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | moon landing is real, we were told never to return. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
NeKromAncy User ID: 70606691 United States 02/02/2017 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NeKromAncy ... It the link I provided it says: The rock was given to Willem Drees, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin following their moon mission 50 years ago. That link is wrong. It (and those that directly quote it) is the only source that says that. All others and those that did more research agree with what I said. how about the BBC? [link to news.bbc.co.uk] I believe what I believe, just like you do, so you are wasting your time. Go try to convince sum1 else cuz your just making me laugh sad isn't it, lies will always be lies, no matter what price sticker you put on it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33917235 Im still on the fence about the hole moon landing deal, but this definitely has me thinking.. It should have you thinking about who wrote the story instead; it wasn't given by any astronaut, the Netherlands only received two official moon rocks from NASA, both are accounted for and that museum never received either of them. The piece of petrified wood was given to Drees by US ambassador J Middendorf who got it from some unknown person at the state department, not from Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, and not from NASA. A moon rock was designated as the "goodwill" moon rock and samples WERE given to various nations after Apollo 11, and this was done again after Apollo 17. The moon rock received by the Netherlands from Apollo 11 is at the National Museum of the History of Science and Medicine in Leiden, NOT Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum. The same museum in Leiden also has the sample from Apollo 17. It should also be noted that when giving out goodwill moonrocks like this, the samples were encased and protected, not just left out in the open like that. Another dead giveaway of the fake nature of the rock. The goodwill rocks were given away in pieces, which are quite small. You can see pictures of the real moon rocks given to the netherlands here: [link to www.collectspace.com] And here: [link to www.collectspace.com] Drees received it from US ambassador J Middendorf, NOT an Apollo astronaut. That is the truth of the matter. Don't trust the fake news. Do your research. I dont believe it no matter what you think mr NASA. you are the biggest liar on this site. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 02/02/2017 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73085799 That link is wrong. It (and those that directly quote it) is the only source that says that. All others and those that did more research agree with what I said. to bad wikipedia doesnt agree with you [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Are you sure? this is what Wikipedia says "Drees received it as a private gift on October 9, 1969 from then-US ambassador J. William Middendorf" regardless who gave it to them, its fake...funny that once they found it to be fake they claim it wasnt an actual REAL moonrock given by NASA. I believe they are all fake, just like every bullshit trip they faked to the moon..around the van allen radiation belts lol... that was the funniests line yet too.you all can say NASA went to the moon till you are blue in the face. I call bullshit, or better yet DO IT AGAIN. but of course they wont, cuz they cant AGAIN, there is no proof it was ever intended to be a Moon rock. His estate ASSUMED it was after his death. They can't do it again unless someone is willing to pay for it. |
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The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 02/02/2017 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73085799 That link is wrong. It (and those that directly quote it) is the only source that says that. All others and those that did more research agree with what I said. to bad wikipedia doesnt agree with you [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Are you sure? this is what Wikipedia says "Drees received it as a private gift on October 9, 1969 from then-US ambassador J. William Middendorf" regardless who gave it to them, its fake... Who gave it to them matters. If someone gives you a rock they claim was a meteorite from my collection, does that mean my collection of meteorites is fake? What if I told you I never gave that person anything, let alone of my meteorites? Simple logic; the exact source of the fake moon rock matters. Even the way it was handled was unlike any commemorative moon rock sample handed out. Two were given to the Dutch, both are accounted for, and both are quite unlike the fake. Just because a US Ambassador gave someone a fake doesn't mean that NASA's are actually fake. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71679261 United States 02/02/2017 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now the question is, why would they lie about going to the moon in the first place? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72766322 Maybe people were afraid to the moon back in the day? They claim it was to get Russia to blow money trying to beat us to the moon. Which some claim worked, reason they aren't as mighty as they once were. Not sure that's true but read it someplace. |
NeKromAncy User ID: 70606691 United States 02/02/2017 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure? this is what Wikipedia says "Drees received it as a private gift on October 9, 1969 from then-US ambassador J. William Middendorf" regardless who gave it to them, its fake...funny that once they found it to be fake they claim it wasnt an actual REAL moonrock given by NASA. I believe they are all fake, just like every bullshit trip they faked to the moon..around the van allen radiation belts lol... that was the funniests line yet too.you all can say NASA went to the moon till you are blue in the face. I call bullshit, or better yet DO IT AGAIN. but of course they wont, cuz they cant AGAIN, there is no proof it was ever intended to be a Moon rock. His estate ASSUMED it was after his death. They can't do it again unless someone is willing to pay for it. so the 50 billion a year fir their nasa budget wont cover it why? oh yeah : they need that money to take rides in the zero G plane and do sumemrsaults on the ISS and do water balloon experiments with those billions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 02/02/2017 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73085799 Are you sure? this is what Wikipedia says "Drees received it as a private gift on October 9, 1969 from then-US ambassador J. William Middendorf" regardless who gave it to them, its fake...funny that once they found it to be fake they claim it wasnt an actual REAL moonrock given by NASA. I believe they are all fake, just like every bullshit trip they faked to the moon..around the van allen radiation belts lol... that was the funniests line yet too.you all can say NASA went to the moon till you are blue in the face. I call bullshit, or better yet DO IT AGAIN. but of course they wont, cuz they cant AGAIN, there is no proof it was ever intended to be a Moon rock. His estate ASSUMED it was after his death. They can't do it again unless someone is willing to pay for it. so the 50 billion a year fir their nasa budget wont cover it why? oh yeah : they need that money to take rides in the zero G plane and do sumemrsaults on the ISS and do water balloon experiments with those billions. They don't just get a chunk of money to do whatever they want to. EVERY part of their funding is allocated to specific programs approved by Congress. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4850775 United States 02/02/2017 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After watched NASA moon landing videos, only a fool or liar will say it is not hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48553566 Foolishness is forgivable, lying is not, your nose will grow longer very soon. For 40 years, I believed that the moon landing was real. I entertained the possibility of U.F.O. aliens visiting Earth because of it. But the last 6 years of doing research on the internet watching the videos of the actual landing, I think it is easy to fake the moon landing. The Van Allen Belts of radiation. The little moon lander had enough room for water, oxygen and rocket fuel in it? I am supposed to believe they walked around in diapers or did they hold it in till they got back to Earth? No way there was room for a toilet in that ship. There is lots of footage of them jumping around but they never pointed the camera at the Earth in the moon's sky. They waited 40 years to release extra photos that were digitized because the original footage was lost/misplaced/damaged? They release pictures of moon landing from today's telescope that could easily be photo-shopped. There was supposed to be a race between the Russians and the United States. So when the U.S. got there first, the Russians gave up? N.A.S.A. didn't give up when the Russians were first to be in space. I know when friends/family/strangers lie. A red flag goes up in my heart. I feel something is not right. Like when food is past the expiration date. This Moon Landing is bunch of bullshit and I feel like a gullible fool for believing in this "Santa Claus" fairy tale for 40 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69341707 United States 02/02/2017 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read the wiki link posted about the moon rocks and I am going to cry for the next few years. They basically handed them out to all sorts of bullshit backwards countries and their retarded dictators. Many of these countries to this day still have not figured out how to install running water, much less electricity. What were they going to do with moon rocks? Think about it. Those rocks have been blasted by the sun for billions of years with no atmosphere. Nothing on earth has ever had that level of exposure and survived more than a couple thousand years. Look at the pyramids. The molecular compositions must be amazing things to behold. Not just with our tech now, but with the technology in the future. That is why when they do archeological digs they only dig up half of a site. So future generations with better methods can further research. I am not going to post any of the stuff from the wiki because I don't want anyone else to get depressed at what they did with the offical samples. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 02/02/2017 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After watched NASA moon landing videos, only a fool or liar will say it is not hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48553566 Foolishness is forgivable, lying is not, your nose will grow longer very soon. For 40 years, I believed that the moon landing was real. I entertained the possibility of U.F.O. aliens visiting Earth because of it. But the last 6 years of doing research on the internet watching the videos of the actual landing, I think it is easy to fake the moon landing. The Van Allen Belts of radiation. went around them. The little moon lander had enough room for water, oxygen and rocket fuel in it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Yes. I am supposed to believe they walked around in diapers or did they hold it in till they got back to Earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 No way there was room for a toilet in that ship. Why don't you know already? There is lots of footage of them jumping around but they never pointed the camera at the Earth in the moon's sky. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Wrong. There are pictures of the Earth. They waited 40 years to release extra photos that were digitized because the original footage was lost/misplaced/damaged? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 All photos have been available since the 70's. The digitizing made them easier to access. They release pictures of moon landing from today's telescope that could easily be photo-shopped. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Opinion There was supposed to be a race between the Russians and the United States. So when the U.S. got there first, the Russians gave up? N.A.S.A. didn't give up when the Russians were first to be in space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Russia didn't give up. They had an active program until 1974, two years AFTER Apollo ended. They couldn't get there because their heavy lifting rocket, the N-1, kept exploding instead of launching. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73507061 United States 02/02/2017 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It wasn't fake. The Saturn V rocket was fully capable of sending men to the Moon. Other countries' unmanned Moon probes have filmed the footsteps of some of the Apollo missions. Quoting: SOARINGHAWK How do you explain Apollo 13? If all the Apollo missions that made it to the moon were fake why would Apollo 13 have actually been in space when the accident occurred? All the othe crap can be debunked. You can't see the stars because the 35mm film couldn't pick up the light of the stars. You are some kind of stupid!!!! |
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The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 02/02/2017 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of Space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64164435 But they did it how many times before? Different region of the belts, totally different trajectory in 1969. NASA admitted it. Quoting: Yip 56714815 Watch listen. This video released by NASA about the upcoming Orion space exploration craft, shows a NASA scientist admitting that they still haven't worked out how to properly shield the spacecraft from the radiation emitted from the Van Allen belts. The trajectory taken by Apollo avoided the most intense parts of the Van Allen belts. Orion EFT-1 flew right through it. Here's Apollo's trajectory: Using SPENVIS, here is the dose expected for an Apollo astronaut sitting inside an Apollo spacecraft with about 7-8 g/cm^2 areal density on the trajectory taken by Apollo to the moon: [link to h.dropcanvas.com] That dose isn't dangerous at all. With that said, you cannot send astronauts on an Apollo command module through the same region on the same trajectory as Orion EFT-1 without risking the astronauts developing mild symptoms of radiation poisoning. Orion EFT-1 took it right through the most intense region of radiation right over the equator. Here is the expected dose if you were to send Apollo astronauts in an Apollo command module on the same trajectory as Orion EFT-1's final orbit: [link to h.dropcanvas.com] Nearly 30 rads of radiation. At that dose you are approaching the threshold at which you may start to exhibit mild symptoms of radiation poisoning according to the CDC: "Mild symptoms may be observed with doses as low as 0.3 Gy or 30 rads." [link to www.bt.cdc.gov] Still won't kill you, but it might just make you sick if you fly Orion EFT-1's trajectory with the older Apollo capsule and normally your mission would just be getting started. The electronics on the Apollo spacecraft were less susceptible to radiation though. Computers were also in charge of a lot less of the Apollo spacecraft, and were built using core memory that generally could not experience a "bit flip" due to radiation the way modern memory chips do. Orion's missions will likely involve using solar electric propulsion, which is much lower thrust than Apollo, which means more time spent in the belts than Apollo and possibly in less inclined orbits (or with an argument of perigee that puts it over the equator at apogee as the orbit is slowly raised) like Orion EFT-1. That's something you couldn't do with the Apollo capsule safely, but that's not what they did for Apollo. It was not dangerous given Apollo's trajectory. It would be given Orion EFT-1's trajectory. Orion also uses a totally different kind of computer which is sensitive to radiation upsets. End of story. The little moon lander had enough room for water, oxygen and rocket fuel in it? Quoting: ACYes. For the moon there's no atmosphere, so your orbital altitude can technically be anything above about 11 km since the highest point on the moon is about 10.8 km high. As long as you don't slam into the surface, you can reach orbital velocity. In practice it's not quite that simple since the moon is lumpy and gravitational turbulence will perturb your orbit until you do slam into the moon (particularly if you're at very low altitudes) unless you actively counter it with course corrections. But for the sake of calculating a number, let's assume a 11km altitude orbit is viable. Quoting: Dr. Astro Velocity of a circular orbit = Sqrt((G*M)/r) Where G = gravitational constant M = Mass of the moon r = orbital radius relative to the center of the moon The moon's equatorial radius is 1738.1 km, so for an orbital radius of 1838100 meters and a mass of the moon of 7.34767*10^22 kg, the circular orbital velocity is 1633 m/s. The moon's rotational velocity is pretty slow, 4.627 m/s at the equator, but if you launch from the equator due east you do get to take advantage of the rotation and so you can subtraction 4.627 m/s from your delta-V requirement to get to orbit. 1628.4 m/s then. You also need to account for gravity losses during launch; thrust spent to offset the gravity of the moon while launching up. Since you can go directly to very low altitude orbits though these losses will not be very large since you can pitch over almost immediately and start using almost all your thrust to build up horizontal velocity rather than offsetting the moon's gravity. The moon's gravity is 1.622 m/s^2, so we can roughly approximate gravity loss as the delta-V it takes to reach 11 km altitude at 0 vertical velocity - this is actually over-estimating the amount of gravity loss a bit since the most efficient path is more of a curve and not straight up and then a 90 degree instant pitch-over. But just to get a ballpark, this will equal Sqrt(2*1.622 m/s*11000 m). That equals about 189 m/s. So the total delta-V to reach lunar orbit would be about 1817 m/s (again it's actually a bit less than this since the path we calculated is not the most efficient, but it's a good approximation). So anyway, gravity drag is of course much more significant for launches from earth's surface. You have to reach much higher altitudes in a much more powerful gravity well. Atmospheric drag is a factor too, but it's actually a lot less important than gravity losses (generally by at least an order of magnitude). In fact the heavier the rocket, the smaller the ratio of surface area (in the direction of flight) to mass, so the less drag it experiences due to the atmosphere. Gravity drag for earth launches accounts generally for about 1.2 ~ 1.5 km/s of delta-V required to reach orbit. Earth's mass is 5.972 * 10^24 kg and it has an equatorial radius of about 6378 km. So figure you want to launch into a low earth orbit, say 300 km high. The orbital velocity you need can be calculated the same as the moon, but with the numbers I gave you. You'll find the answer is about 7.7 km/s. So figure about 8.9 km/s delta-V needed to reach earth orbit if you keep gravity losses reasonably low. *I just remembered I forgot to account for earth's rotation so the numbers I calculated are really for launching from one of the poles. From the equator you save about another 465m/s delta-V. Now in terms of the "amount of fuel," that depends radically upon the amount of mass you're trying to get and what velocity you're trying to get it to. This can be calculated with the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation. Delta-V of a rocket = exhaust velocity * natural log(initial mass/final mass). It's kind of apples and oranges for launching from the earth vs the moon; you're generally trying to get a much larger payload into earth orbit than lunar orbit, particularly if you're going to the moon. If you're leaving the moon then you just need a bare bones spacecraft like the LM and use a much heavier capsule you rendezvous with to get back to earth safely. If you're launching from earth you need a heavy capsule with a heat shield at a minimum to get back safely. See the issue? If all you had to do was get a lunar ascent module sized mass into earth orbit with a delta-V of 8.9 km/s and the same exhaust velocity as a lunar module, then the fuel you would need would be only about 38,320 kg of fuel (somewhere between a Mercury Redstone and a Mercury Atlas rocket). But Apollo had to put a lot more than the ascent stage of a lunar module into orbit in order to get the moon. The ascent stage itself carried about 2639 kg of fuel, which provides more than enough delta-V to get to lunar orbit (about 2041 m/s if you do the math). So to answer your question in its most basic form, it takes about 14.5 times the amount of fuel to get a lunar ascent stage to earth orbit that it takes to get it to lunar orbit. The ascent stage had its fuel tank stored on the side of the vehicle, which is why it looks a bit "lumpy." [link to ntrs.nasa.gov (secure)] Here's what a typical 2000 liter tank looks like size-wise: [link to www.surplusselect.eu] Of course for Apollo you had separate tanks for fuel and oxidizer, so if you split that into two tanks, yeah you can see how it would fit on the ascent stage... I am supposed to believe they walked around in diapers or did they hold it in till they got back to Earth? Quoting: ACNo way there was room for a toilet in that ship. You're right, there was no toilet. Doing 1 is simple enough; just pee into a urine collection bag and then vent overboard. Doing 2 involved strapping a bag to your ass and crapping into it. Not pleasant, but worth the chance to go to the moon. There is lots of footage of them jumping around but they never pointed the camera at the Earth in the moon's sky. Quoting: ACWrong. They waited 40 years to release extra photos that were digitized because the original footage was lost/misplaced/damaged? Quoting: ACHuh? The photos from the mission itself have been available forever. Just because they put them on flickr recently doesn't mean they only just now released them. Hell I have original prints of some of those sitting in my personal collection for decades now. There was supposed to be a race between the Russians and the United States. So when the U.S. got there first, the Russians gave up? N.A.S.A. didn't give up when the Russians were first to be in space. Quoting: ACTheir N-1 moon rocket failed to reach orbit every time they tried to launch it. The Saturn V never failed to reach orbit, so it was successful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73507061 United States 02/02/2017 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After watched NASA moon landing videos, only a fool or liar will say it is not hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48553566 Foolishness is forgivable, lying is not, your nose will grow longer very soon. For 40 years, I believed that the moon landing was real. I entertained the possibility of U.F.O. aliens visiting Earth because of it. But the last 6 years of doing research on the internet watching the videos of the actual landing, I think it is easy to fake the moon landing. The Van Allen Belts of radiation. went around them. The little moon lander had enough room for water, oxygen and rocket fuel in it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Yes. I am supposed to believe they walked around in diapers or did they hold it in till they got back to Earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 No way there was room for a toilet in that ship. Why don't you know already? There is lots of footage of them jumping around but they never pointed the camera at the Earth in the moon's sky. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Wrong. There are pictures of the Earth. They waited 40 years to release extra photos that were digitized because the original footage was lost/misplaced/damaged? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 All photos have been available since the 70's. The digitizing made them easier to access. They release pictures of moon landing from today's telescope that could easily be photo-shopped. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Opinion There was supposed to be a race between the Russians and the United States. So when the U.S. got there first, the Russians gave up? N.A.S.A. didn't give up when the Russians were first to be in space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Russia didn't give up. They had an active program until 1974, two years AFTER Apollo ended. They couldn't get there because their heavy lifting rocket, the N-1, kept exploding instead of launching. Anyone who still believes in a moon landing is hopelessly stupid!!!! |
The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 02/02/2017 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After watched NASA moon landing videos, only a fool or liar will say it is not hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48553566 Foolishness is forgivable, lying is not, your nose will grow longer very soon. For 40 years, I believed that the moon landing was real. I entertained the possibility of U.F.O. aliens visiting Earth because of it. But the last 6 years of doing research on the internet watching the videos of the actual landing, I think it is easy to fake the moon landing. The Van Allen Belts of radiation. went around them. The little moon lander had enough room for water, oxygen and rocket fuel in it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Yes. I am supposed to believe they walked around in diapers or did they hold it in till they got back to Earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 No way there was room for a toilet in that ship. Why don't you know already? There is lots of footage of them jumping around but they never pointed the camera at the Earth in the moon's sky. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Wrong. There are pictures of the Earth. They waited 40 years to release extra photos that were digitized because the original footage was lost/misplaced/damaged? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 All photos have been available since the 70's. The digitizing made them easier to access. They release pictures of moon landing from today's telescope that could easily be photo-shopped. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Opinion There was supposed to be a race between the Russians and the United States. So when the U.S. got there first, the Russians gave up? N.A.S.A. didn't give up when the Russians were first to be in space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Russia didn't give up. They had an active program until 1974, two years AFTER Apollo ended. They couldn't get there because their heavy lifting rocket, the N-1, kept exploding instead of launching. Anyone who still believes in a moon landing is hopelessly stupid!!!! Sorry you feel that way, but your insults carry no weight. I'm a genius. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 02/02/2017 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After watched NASA moon landing videos, only a fool or liar will say it is not hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48553566 Foolishness is forgivable, lying is not, your nose will grow longer very soon. For 40 years, I believed that the moon landing was real. I entertained the possibility of U.F.O. aliens visiting Earth because of it. But the last 6 years of doing research on the internet watching the videos of the actual landing, I think it is easy to fake the moon landing. The Van Allen Belts of radiation. went around them. The little moon lander had enough room for water, oxygen and rocket fuel in it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Yes. I am supposed to believe they walked around in diapers or did they hold it in till they got back to Earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 No way there was room for a toilet in that ship. Why don't you know already? There is lots of footage of them jumping around but they never pointed the camera at the Earth in the moon's sky. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Wrong. There are pictures of the Earth. They waited 40 years to release extra photos that were digitized because the original footage was lost/misplaced/damaged? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 All photos have been available since the 70's. The digitizing made them easier to access. They release pictures of moon landing from today's telescope that could easily be photo-shopped. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Opinion There was supposed to be a race between the Russians and the United States. So when the U.S. got there first, the Russians gave up? N.A.S.A. didn't give up when the Russians were first to be in space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775 Russia didn't give up. They had an active program until 1974, two years AFTER Apollo ended. They couldn't get there because their heavy lifting rocket, the N-1, kept exploding instead of launching. Anyone who still believes in a moon landing is hopelessly stupid!!!! You're entitled to your opinion. In the real world however, none of the hoax claims stand up to scrutiny. Apollo is completely internally and externally consistent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73207222 United States 02/02/2017 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astromut deleted the thread where he could not prove this to be wrong. I wonder why? It's getting more and more obvious that there are serious problems with NASA and they would seem to be faking pretty much everything. [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 02/02/2017 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astromut deleted the thread where he could not prove this to be wrong. I wonder why? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73207222 It's getting more and more obvious that there are serious problems with NASA and they would seem to be faking pretty much everything. [link to youtu.be (secure)] I did prove it wrong. I deleted it because OP was fraudulently using my screen name. Spacex delivered all 32 NFL team jerseys to the space station a while back. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69341707 United States 02/02/2017 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey dr. a. I have question about the view of earth. I want to believe. (see other posts in this thread) in the video at about 3:49. The image of the half lit earth, relative to the astronaut (over the shoulder view) is tiny. it is smaller than the moon would be if I took the same shot from earth. The diameter of the earth is 7,917.5 mi. The moon is 2,159 mi. It is wierd because that is about the reverse of the ratio shown/expected. I used to be good at math and spatial so thats why I noticed it. But now I am old so I see things the inverse of what they should be. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71909165 Canada 02/02/2017 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I so get tired of idiots like you. There are a thousand proofs we went there. But, I will just give you one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72980562 I have personally examined quite a number of the moon rocks. If you look at them under an electron microscope, you will see inclusions that are as small as 1/10,000 of an inch from micro meteorites. If those rocks were from earth, there is zero, zero, and I mean zero probability such inclusions would be there. THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE WOULD HAVE NEVER LET THOSE MICRO METEORITES THROUGH TO IMPACT THOSE ROCKS!!! DUMBASS. There are hundreds of pounds of such rocks. So, Einstein, where the fuck did those rocks come from??? maybe someone went to the moon, but not the way we have been told Or maybe meteorites that crashed on earth were crushed up and passed off as moon rock? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 02/02/2017 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey dr. a. I have question about the view of earth. I want to believe. (see other posts in this thread) in the video at about 3:49. The image of the half lit earth, relative to the astronaut (over the shoulder view) is tiny. it is smaller than the moon would be if I took the same shot from earth. The diameter of the earth is 7,917.5 mi. The moon is 2,159 mi. It is wierd because that is about the reverse of the ratio shown/expected. I used to be good at math and spatial so thats why I noticed it. But now I am old so I see things the inverse of what they should be. how do you KNOW it is smaller? Do you have a camera with the same lens? Are you even aware that the lens used affects the size of objects in the frame? The camera is using a wide angle lens, hence a large field of view, hence objects will appear smaller. I'd bet if you did the math with the field of view you'd find the Earth takes up about 2 degrees just as it should. |
Mr Chronos User ID: 7442223 United States 02/02/2017 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After watched NASA moon landing videos, only a fool or liar will say it is not hoax. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48553566 Foolishness is forgivable, lying is not, your nose will grow longer very soon. For 40 years, I believed that the moon landing was real. I entertained the possibility of U.F.O. aliens visiting Earth because of it. But the last 6 years of doing research on the internet watching the videos of the actual landing, I think it is easy to fake the moon landing. The Van Allen Belts of radiation. The little moon lander had enough room for water, oxygen and rocket fuel in it? I am supposed to believe they walked around in diapers or did they hold it in till they got back to Earth? No way there was room for a toilet in that ship. There is lots of footage of them jumping around but they never pointed the camera at the Earth in the moon's sky. They waited 40 years to release extra photos that were digitized because the original footage was lost/misplaced/damaged? They release pictures of moon landing from today's telescope that could easily be photo-shopped. There was supposed to be a race between the Russians and the United States. So when the U.S. got there first, the Russians gave up? N.A.S.A. didn't give up when the Russians were first to be in space. I know when friends/family/strangers lie. A red flag goes up in my heart. I feel something is not right. Like when food is past the expiration date. This Moon Landing is bunch of bullshit and I feel like a gullible fool for believing in this "Santa Claus" fairy tale for 40 years. Clearly your mind is slipping. There was the 'tiny' lander and the command module and the service module. Lots more space than the 'tiny' lander you reference. Google is your friend, I'm not going to do the easiest of things for you. For human waste disposal, see: [link to history.nasa.gov (secure)] There are plenty of points and counterpoints to the Van Allen belts. Clearly you chose to ignore the ones that don't agree with your preconceived notion. Russian had major rocket problems, and decided not to blow further big money. There are plenty of earth-rise photos, going back to Apollo 8. It is certainly easy to find. The lengths of shadows will be a function of when the photo was taken, how far into the mission the landing was, and the angle of the lunar surface. Go takes some sticks out in a sunny day on uneven ground and educate yourself. Sorry to destroy your false superiority. Oh, and last but not least -- none of you retards have every explained how NASA kept this a secret over half a century with thousands of employees... Take your meds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 02/02/2017 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I so get tired of idiots like you. There are a thousand proofs we went there. But, I will just give you one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72980562 I have personally examined quite a number of the moon rocks. If you look at them under an electron microscope, you will see inclusions that are as small as 1/10,000 of an inch from micro meteorites. If those rocks were from earth, there is zero, zero, and I mean zero probability such inclusions would be there. THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE WOULD HAVE NEVER LET THOSE MICRO METEORITES THROUGH TO IMPACT THOSE ROCKS!!! DUMBASS. There are hundreds of pounds of such rocks. So, Einstein, where the fuck did those rocks come from??? maybe someone went to the moon, but not the way we have been told Or maybe meteorites that crashed on earth were crushed up and passed off as moon rock? Wouldn't work. Meteorites would show signs of weathering and contact with liquid water. They also wouldn't have microscopic zap pits from billions of years of exposure to cosmic rays. Plus some rocks collected were quite large as well as core samples. |
Mr Chronos User ID: 7442223 United States 02/02/2017 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey dr. a. I have question about the view of earth. I want to believe. (see other posts in this thread) in the video at about 3:49. The image of the half lit earth, relative to the astronaut (over the shoulder view) is tiny. it is smaller than the moon would be if I took the same shot from earth. The diameter of the earth is 7,917.5 mi. The moon is 2,159 mi. It is wierd because that is about the reverse of the ratio shown/expected. I used to be good at math and spatial so thats why I noticed it. But now I am old so I see things the inverse of what they should be. how do you KNOW it is smaller? Do you have a camera with the same lens? Are you even aware that the lens used affects the size of objects in the frame? The camera is using a wide angle lens, hence a large field of view, hence objects will appear smaller. I'd bet if you did the math with the field of view you'd find the Earth takes up about 2 degrees just as it should. ^^^^^ THIS You cannot even speculate intelligently without know the camera's field of view (focal length of lens and size of film/sensor). The utter lack of analysis of some comments is sad. |