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NASA Moon Landing Hoax 100% Proof

 
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If I went to the moon, one of the first pictures I would take is a photo of earth.

Are there any such photos?

I found one but the quality is shit.

If they have all these video feeds on the surface of the moon, why do none show the earth in the background? That would be the first thing I'd want to capture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55958179


They took a picture of the earth from the moon proves they lied. Because during moon landing at moon's morning time, day light side of the earth is invisible from the moon.

Here's why.

If the sun is in 6 pm direction, earth is in the center of the clock, the morning moon will be in between 1.30 pm to 2.30 pm direction.

There is no way to see the day light side of the earth from the moon at that angle.
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What part of depends on the equipment and the number of conversions do you not understand? What is VERY clear is any delay to the ISS is NOT from distance like you seemed to think it was.
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Understand what?

You only make short replies without any ounce of fact.

The only fact you have said,
is that there will be 5-6 seconds extra delay when you convert to digital sound.

Sorry, but you seem COMPLETELY clueless.

Yet you continue arguing with completely false facts.

No wonder people dont believe in the moon landing,
when they are harrassed by completely clueless arguments...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70716888

the bolded is NOT what I said. I said multiple conversions and I never mentioned sound.


I'm still laughing at this quote from you

"Do you mean that analog sound travels at the speed of light?

And digital sound travels at the speed of sound?"

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73085799


I asked that quote because YOU seemed to think that...

And yes, YOU said that your local radio station got 5-6 seconds delay when they converted to digital sound.
That was your proof.

Good morning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70716888


Nothing I said made it seem I thought that. And I did NOT say they were converting to digital sound.
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5000 degrees is how hot it got on re-entry..stainless steel melts at under 2500, melts lol not just bends n buckles but melts, at 5000 it will vapourise especially if theres air pressure on it, would be like thermite..so theres no way possible that module could withstand that re-entry without even a bend or buckle in the metal..let alone the people inside, i know they will say tiles or some kind of heatshield but thats even more ridiculous because that will mean only more friction..its impossible for so many reasons and thats why they can never duplicate this hoax, they can never go there and no shill here can prove otherwise
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5000 degrees is how hot What got? What on the spacecraft reached this temperature?

...and speaking of heatshield, do you know how the CM heatshield functioned?
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yeh i've read about it so i only know whats been written, do you know? i know they used avcoat 5026-39

the actual patent filing date for this is in 2009 according to google..they used a time machine to send it back 50 years maybe? i dont know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73890156


but really thats all nasa here-say theres no evidence to support any of this that can be found..funny that in the 60s they have this miraculous material but even today they struggle to make any material composite that can withstand 3000 heat

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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The substance with the highest melting point that my search was able to find is Tantalum hafnium carbide, with a melting point of 4,488 K (4,215 degrees C). So no, there is no known substance that can withstand 5,000 degree heat.

[link to www.quora.com (secure)]

he has a degree in physics btw
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If I went to the moon, one of the first pictures I would take is a photo of earth.

Are there any such photos?

I found one but the quality is shit.

If they have all these video feeds on the surface of the moon, why do none show the earth in the background? That would be the first thing I'd want to capture.
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There are multiple photos as well as some video. The better question is, why don't you already know that?
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Link me one. I can't find any.
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The substance with the highest melting point that my search was able to find is Tantalum hafnium carbide, with a melting point of 4,488 K (4,215 degrees C). So no, there is no known substance that can withstand 5,000 degree heat.

[link to www.quora.com (secure)]

he has a degree in physics btw
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Thats why it pisses me off so much (earlier pages in the thread) That they basically passed the moon rocks out to back woods countries and no nothing USA politicians.

The moon surface has been absolutely roasted by the sun for millions of years. Any and ALL material they brought back should being stored and analysed in the absolute highest tech facilities humans could produce from that day till the end of time.

They could maybe develop materials that could be used to contain nuclear waste and fix fukishima, chernobyl, etc. But nope ... They sent the stuff to tin pot dictators in places like Nicaragua. To hang as plaques on walls.

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Use Sound Recorder (Voice Memo) app on your fucking iPhone.

It draws sound waveform as you speak.

That's how fast analog-to-digital conversion is.
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Understand what?

You only make short replies without any ounce of fact.

The only fact you have said,
is that there will be 5-6 seconds extra delay when you convert to digital sound.

Sorry, but you seem COMPLETELY clueless.

Yet you continue arguing with completely false facts.

No wonder people dont believe in the moon landing,
when they are harrassed by completely clueless arguments...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70716888

the bolded is NOT what I said. I said multiple conversions and I never mentioned sound.


I'm still laughing at this quote from you

"Do you mean that analog sound travels at the speed of light?

And digital sound travels at the speed of sound?"

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73085799


I asked that quote because YOU seemed to think that...

And yes, YOU said that your local radio station got 5-6 seconds delay when they converted to digital sound.
That was your proof.

Good morning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70716888


Nothing I said made it seem I thought that. And I did NOT say they were converting to digital sound.
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Ok...

Then I did NOT say the moon landing seemed like a hoax.

So we are all good I guess.
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They took a picture of the earth from the moon proves they lied. Because during moon landing at moon's morning time, day light side of the earth is invisible from the moon.

Here's why.

If the sun is in 6 pm direction, earth is in the center of the clock, the morning moon will be in between 1.30 pm to 2.30 pm direction.

There is no way to see the day light side of the earth from the moon at that angle.
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Can you draw it? Or a link please?
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If I went to the moon, one of the first pictures I would take is a photo of earth.

Are there any such photos?

I found one but the quality is shit.

If they have all these video feeds on the surface of the moon, why do none show the earth in the background? That would be the first thing I'd want to capture.
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you obviously haven't looked through the archives...they all took pics departing Earth...do yur damned homework, sonny...
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It is cool that the astronauts were transparent during the first landing...

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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You are definitely a FOS shill! I will not argue with a paid liar!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4850775

Resorting to the Shill Gambit is all the prove we need that you KNOW you don't have any valid arguments.
book


air is wasted with a SCUBA system.
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Also SCUBA systems use compressed air, not liquefied oxygen, which takes up considerable less volume.
book


The fact that they took a Buggy to the moon on the first mission is a laugh.
 Quoting: Ozzie Coward 35240821

What is a laugh is you being so ignorant about Apollo that you don't even know that the LRV was only brought along for the last three landing missions.

Such a waste of space. The thing is massive and pointless.
 Quoting: Ozzie Coward 35240821

According to some ignoramus-on-the-internet.

Just doesn't seem right.
 Quoting: Ozzie Coward 35240821

According to some ignoramus-on-the-internet.

Also how come the gravity is so strong? They can hardly jump off the ground?
 Quoting: Ozzie Coward 35240821

Not doing something != not being able to do something.

Logic. How does it work?
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5000 degrees is how hot it got on re-entry..stainless steel melts at under 2500, melts lol not just bends n buckles but melts, at 5000 it will vapourise especially if theres air pressure on it, would be like thermite..so theres no way possible that module could withstand that re-entry without even a bend or buckle in the metal..let alone the people inside, i know they will say tiles or some kind of heatshield but thats even more ridiculous because that will mean only more friction..its impossible for so many reasons and thats why they can never duplicate this hoax, they can never go there and no shill here can prove otherwise
 Quoting: Ozzie Coward 73890156

IOW you don't understand something, and according to you, this somehow proves something other than you not understanding something?

but really thats all nasa here-say theres no evidence to support any of this that can be found..funny that in the 60s they have this miraculous material but even today they struggle to make any material composite that can withstand 3000 heat
 Quoting: Ozzie Coward 73890156

Apollo re-entry vehicles use the similar technology as developed during the 50s for ICBM warheads.
Ablative shielding doesn't have to withstand the heat, it has to discharge it AWAY from the vehicle.

This is so basic that it is bewildering that someone not knowing that would even try to discuss astronautics.
Really, what's wrong with you?
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If I went to the moon, one of the first pictures I would take is a photo of earth.

Are there any such photos?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55958179

Yes. But irrelevant.

Your argument is based on what YOU would do.
THEY ARE NOT YOU.

This fallacy is know as If-I-ran-the-zoo, you are not a zookeeper.
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Why don't you provide a link to 1 single satellite image of all those tracks?
 Quoting: Swedish Coward 70716888

Why do you believe that being lazy and/or inept at research is a proper approach to truth finding?
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LROC_A17
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

So where is the link to this satellite image (like i asked)?
 Quoting: Swedish Coward 70716888

Nobody cares what you ask if you demonstrate an utter lack in actually caring for KNOWING.
People who care for KNOWING get of their asses and FIND OUT.

Nobody cares what you believe or what you are ignorant about.
The only thing that matters what evidence you can bring to the table.
So far nothing zilch nada.
Hoaxies should be embarresed about themselves, the have failed to prove a single relevant evidentiary claim in nearly half a century.

It would be interesting to read the description of it.
 Quoting: Swedish Coward 70716888

It might be.

Otherwise it is not much of truth finding?
 Quoting: Swedish Coward 70716888

You are never going to find truth by sitting behind a computer and whine "Gimme, gimme, gimme."

YOU being IGNORANT about the subject matter, and to lazy to fix that, is all we need to know to evaluate your opinion.

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

And it is not a satellite image,
which was the point.

"photographed from low orbit by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter"
 Quoting: Swedish Coward 70716888

The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter orbits the the Moon, IOW it is an artificial satellite of the Moon.

Now go find the LRO website.

Controlled by the same guys that supposedly faked the whole thing...
 Quoting: Swedish Coward 70716888

It's been 50 years, so now you accuse a whole new generation of being criminals, to cover up the fact that you haven't been able to prove that the original set were criminals.

Accuser has the burden of proof.
That would be you, yet you are unable to present ANYTHING.


Listen to ANY conversation in ANY recording or video.

There is NO time delay.
 Quoting: Swedish Coward 70716888

So you ASSert.

Now PROVE it.

It is cool that the astronauts were transparent during the first landing...

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Swedish Coward 70716888

And more Gish Galloping.

Ghosting is caused by the latency of the video tubes used, those in the camera and those of the display unit.
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bump clearly its been faked, astro shill pretends like his been there but everything he says comes from a nasa' shill book, really his as dumb as dogshit
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so true
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bump clearly its been faked, astro shill pretends like his been there but everything he says comes from a nasa' shill book, really his as dumb as dogshit
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so true
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Me thinks that someone who goes around on the Forum calling a mod a shill is the one who is not so smart...
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in the video at about 3:49. The image of the half lit earth, relative to the astronaut (over the shoulder view) is tiny. it is smaller than the moon would be if I took the same shot from earth.
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You know this how exactly? You have a GCTA camera to compare what the moon looks like from earth at the same focal length? You're assuming that it is, you don't have any proof that it's any smaller than it should be. People usually over-estimate how large the moon will appear in photos they take of it. Same applies here. You think the earth should be bigger, but you haven't proven it should be.

Why don't you do this; measure the size of the high gain antenna and its distance from the camera. Find out the angular size of that object in the video and THEN compare to the size of the earth in the image to see if it's as large as it should be.

Let's assume this schematic is accurate:
[link to civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com (secure)]
The size of the outer edge of each high gain antenna petal is 30 pixels in that image, which according to the 225 pixel long 72" scale at the bottom means that they're 9.6 inches long. The lower right side petal seen in the video at 3:50 is therefore about 46.3" from the GCTA camera lens, though obviously this distance can vary a bit as the camera and antennas are pointed. At that distance though we get an angular size of 11.838 degrees for the edge of that petal. Using that angular size to roughly calibrate the view with earth at 3:50 I find that in a full-screen screenshot the petal is about 567 pixels long (from bar to bar between the petals), so the image scale is about 47.9 pixels per degree. Given an earth size in the image of 67 pixels, that means the earth is somewhere in the ballpark of 1.4 degrees diameter in the sky. That's within about half a degree of the expected value, and much larger than the moon is from the earth.

The major limitation of these approximations is that they assume the camera and antenna are both pointed straight ahead on the rover, which they clearly are not. For greater accuracy we need to model the actual orientation of the antenna and camera (which were fortunately both pointed in a known direction, earth). Basically, the GCTA camera on the starboard side of the rover is pointed at the back of the antenna on the port side. The antenna is pointed to the port and aft a bit on the rover in order to achieve the geometry seen, and this can be glimpsed in the shadow of the antenna when the camera pans down.

I drew a rough diagram of the true geometry of the camera to antenna in the lower left diagram of this picture:
The antenna is the red line, the antenna to mast of the GCTA is the blue line:
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The blue line is 95 pixels long, and at a scale of 3.167 pixels per inch, that works out to a distance to the antenna of about 30". That would imply the petal size should be closer to about 18 degrees. That would mean earth is about 2.1 degrees wide in the image.

That's actually a little larger than the expected value, but again these are approximate figures and for greater accuracy it would be necessary to model the entire scene in 3d to find the exact pointing direction of the antenna and camera. Nevertheless it's even closer to the expected value of about 1.9 degrees and pretty damn good considering the approximations made. Earth is definitely not too small in the video.

As you can see, you can't just "assume" that your personal expectations for what the images should look like are correct. You have to actually investigate these things in an unbiased and much more in-depth manner before jumping to conclusions like that, let alone stating them as if they were facts.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


Someone remind me to run the Opie through the calculations on what the Earth's phase should have been in that photo. I don't have the time or energy to do it right now but I do want to come back to that. I haven't even done the calculations yet but I can already tell you it's all going to add up as it always does with Apollo. That's because Apollo was real and so I don't have to worry about it not adding up. Funny how that works.

Anyway we have the time and date the video was taken in archives from the mission. It's a pretty simple matter to look up the Moon's phase and the Earth's phase from the Moon. I already have a spreadsheet that calculates the moon's position relative to the Earth so it's a pretty simple matter to adapt it to calculate the Earth's phase as seen from the Moon. Like I said I don't have the time or energy to do that right this moment but I do want to get back to that. I'll let Opie just dread that moment in the meantime.

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Why not pin this dear mods?

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Because this is old news. Most of us know they never went to the moon.
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93%?
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bump clearly its been faked, astro shill pretends like his been there but everything he says comes from a nasa' shill book, really his as dumb as dogshit
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so true
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Me thinks that someone who goes around on the Forum calling a mod a shill is the one who is not so smart...
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Me thinks someone is being hypocritical. remember when mut was deleting posts about how he accidentally proved that rockets don't work in space? Only a shill mod would that.
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Why not pin this dear mods?

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Because this is old news. Most of us know they never went to the moon.
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93%?
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Why not pin this dear mods?

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Because this is old news. Most of us know they never went to the moon.
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93%?
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[link to www.publicpolicypolling.com] (PDF- Document)

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Fake.

Can you do a pool here at glp about fake landing and 911?
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Because this is old news. Most of us know they never went to the moon.
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93%?
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[link to www.publicpolicypolling.com] (PDF- Document)

Page 2 - Q7

Oops.
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Fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59686777

The usual answer from conspiracy tards when something don't agree with their conspiracytardism.


Can you do a pool here at glp about fake landing and 911?
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GLP is a conspiracy forum. Of course polls on such a forum will bring higher results that may mislead conspiracy tards into believing that they are significant.
Unfortunately GLP is not the USA, it's not representative for the general meaning in the USA.

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On GLP "hoaxed in part or in whole" typically scores 50% to 75%.

Professional polling of the whole adult USAian public 4% to 12%.
Of course this is the same public 1 in 4 are ignorant of the fact that Earth orbits the Sun.
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93%?
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Oops.
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Fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59686777

The usual answer from conspiracy tards when something don't agree with their conspiracytardism.


Can you do a pool here at glp about fake landing and 911?
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GLP is a conspiracy forum. Of course polls on such a forum will bring higher results that may mislead conspiracy tards into believing that they are significant.
Unfortunately GLP is not the USA, it's not representative for the general meaning in the USA.

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So you believe moon landing is real?

Look how cute they are? Start at 3.00.

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5* for OP
great compilation, thanks

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NASA made the videos, thank them.
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Oops.
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Fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59686777

The usual answer from conspiracy tards when something don't agree with their conspiracytardism.


Can you do a pool here at glp about fake landing and 911?
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GLP is a conspiracy forum. Of course polls on such a forum will bring higher results that may mislead conspiracy tards into believing that they are significant.
Unfortunately GLP is not the USA, it's not representative for the general meaning in the USA.
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So you believe moon landing is real?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59686777

The typical misinterpretation of conspiracytardism.

That I point out, your 93% are exaggerated and that conspiracy tards tend to overestimate their numbers and their significance, makes me neither a moon hoax believer nor a moon landing believer.

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I DO believe that they landed a box made of cardboard and tin foil and the moon and flew it back to earth. The TV told me so.

I would get into this and trust it to take me to the moon:

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LOL
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You do realize there is a solid ship under the foil insulation? Or have you not seen that picture posted, like, thirty-seven times?
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Whyever is this pinned?
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Truth should come out. Do you like truth?
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I would be all for it, were you writing any.
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Considering how much hoaxies lie, and how little research they do, I have my doubt that they are truth finders.
It seems to be more about being edgy and anti-establishment than anything else.
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Re: NASA Moon Landing Hoax 100% Proof
Fake one fake all. NASA lied about moon lading for sure.

Shadow under moon buggy and lander and dancer are facts.
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