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How do women differentiate between a man being controlling/insecure and them disrespecting him?

 
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I know a guy who is in a relationship with a woman who had a very controlling ex boyfriend. This guy is besotted with this woman who is like a 5.5/10 at best and has 3 damn kids! Now the guy is terrified of doing anything wrong or calling her out on anything in case she calls HIM controlling and leaves him. This woman basically walks all over him but if he backs off and becomes unsure if she's the one for him she comes right back saying sorry to him.

The woman does things like has male friends over for the night, is openly playful (flirty) with other male neighbours in front of him, etc. She will get her phone out and start texting and chatting to other people while they are going to a movie or something. He said she makes flirty comments about random men public. Things like that. To her it's no big deal.

I said to this guy that there's just no way i would stand for that sort of thing imo that's blatant disrespect, unless it's an open relationship, and yet she's told him that she hates controlling men like her ex and she wants to be able to just be her and not have a man try to change the way she is.

She said that her ex had ordered her to take down her social media and stop accepting men on facebook and that she wasn't allowed to look at any pics of 'hot guys' on instagram. She wasn't allowed to show her legs or wear low cut tops in public, etc

So where's the line in situations like that? It means a woman who has had a controlling ex partner can now effectively do what she wants and behave how she wants with the new dude and he's supposed to accept it because the other guy was controlling?
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The reason why the ex was so controlling over her is because she's a fucking slut.

Tell him to get a better girl.
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now were really making waves pop lol,

yeah, threaten them with permanent seperation and they always seem to come back but i think we all know why...

it sounds like their connected, why else would anyone put up with something like that, it just doesnt make anysense to me.

id do what any sensble person would do, leave and get on his motorcycle and go solo and free let the dumb girl figure it out near death but hey they must be connected cause staying in something like that is just ignorant.
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I know a guy who is in a relationship with a woman who had a very controlling ex boyfriend. This guy is besotted with this woman who is like a 5.5/10 at best and has 3 damn kids! Now the guy is terrified of doing anything wrong or calling her out on anything in case she calls HIM controlling and leaves him. This woman basically walks all over him but if he backs off and becomes unsure if she's the one for him she comes right back saying sorry to him.

The woman does things like has male friends over for the night, is openly playful (flirty) with other male neighbours in front of him, etc. She will get her phone out and start texting and chatting to other people while they are going to a movie or something. He said she makes flirty comments about random men public. Things like that. To her it's no big deal.

I said to this guy that there's just no way i would stand for that sort of thing imo that's blatant disrespect, unless it's an open relationship, and yet she's told him that she hates controlling men like her ex and she wants to be able to just be her and not have a man try to change the way she is.

She said that her ex had ordered her to take down her social media and stop accepting men on facebook and that she wasn't allowed to look at any pics of 'hot guys' on instagram. She wasn't allowed to show her legs or wear low cut tops in public, etc

So where's the line in situations like that? It means a woman who has had a controlling ex partner can now effectively do what she wants and behave how she wants with the new dude and he's supposed to accept it because the other guy was controlling?
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This woman sounds like a disrespectful piece of crap.

The previous boyfriend tried to reign her in, but it was pointless.

I'll bet the previous guy wasn't as controlling as she says. She sounds like a piece of work to me, not a victim.
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Suppose this is glp top conspiracy of the week?

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I know a guy who is in a relationship with a woman who had a very controlling ex boyfriend. This guy is besotted with this woman who is like a 5.5/10 at best and has 3 damn kids! Now the guy is terrified of doing anything wrong or calling her out on anything in case she calls HIM controlling and leaves him. This woman basically walks all over him but if he backs off and becomes unsure if she's the one for him she comes right back saying sorry to him.

The woman does things like has male friends over for the night, is openly playful (flirty) with other male neighbours in front of him, etc. She will get her phone out and start texting and chatting to other people while they are going to a movie or something. He said she makes flirty comments about random men public. Things like that. To her it's no big deal.

I said to this guy that there's just no way i would stand for that sort of thing imo that's blatant disrespect, unless it's an open relationship, and yet she's told him that she hates controlling men like her ex and she wants to be able to just be her and not have a man try to change the way she is.

She said that her ex had ordered her to take down her social media and stop accepting men on facebook and that she wasn't allowed to look at any pics of 'hot guys' on instagram. She wasn't allowed to show her legs or wear low cut tops in public, etc

So where's the line in situations like that? It means a woman who has had a controlling ex partner can now effectively do what she wants and behave how she wants with the new dude and he's supposed to accept it because the other guy was controlling?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73822536


This woman sounds like a disrespectful piece of crap.

The previous boyfriend tried to reign her in, but it was pointless.

I'll bet the previous guy wasn't as controlling as she says. She sounds like a piece of work to me, not a victim.
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I thought that too. There's a good chance the other guy was not as controlling as she implied.
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I know a guy who is in a relationship with a woman who had a very controlling ex boyfriend. This guy is besotted with this woman who is like a 5.5/10 at best and has 3 damn kids! Now the guy is terrified of doing anything wrong or calling her out on anything in case she calls HIM controlling and leaves him. This woman basically walks all over him but if he backs off and becomes unsure if she's the one for him she comes right back saying sorry to him.

The woman does things like has male friends over for the night, is openly playful (flirty) with other male neighbours in front of him, etc. She will get her phone out and start texting and chatting to other people while they are going to a movie or something. He said she makes flirty comments about random men public. Things like that. To her it's no big deal.

I said to this guy that there's just no way i would stand for that sort of thing imo that's blatant disrespect, unless it's an open relationship, and yet she's told him that she hates controlling men like her ex and she wants to be able to just be her and not have a man try to change the way she is.

She said that her ex had ordered her to take down her social media and stop accepting men on facebook and that she wasn't allowed to look at any pics of 'hot guys' on instagram. She wasn't allowed to show her legs or wear low cut tops in public, etc

So where's the line in situations like that? It means a woman who has had a controlling ex partner can now effectively do what she wants and behave how she wants with the new dude and he's supposed to accept it because the other guy was controlling?
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Why do you care so much about this guy's relationship with this woman? It doesn't involve you. Focus on yourself. Wasted energy.
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no time for drama with me.

the first sign of drama, I walk away no matter how good the pussy.
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thin ice..some people that do this are just spoiled and have never actually encountered a real control freak in their lives...ne thing that might help you is that's its usually that "victim" that is insecure not the one being accused of being a controller
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She's manipulating the relationship.

She probably reminds him, on a regular basis, how much she hated her controlling ex. She does this to get it ingrain it in his mind that she will leave no problem, like she did before. This, to your friend (you ;) ) reinforces a belief that if he exerts too much control, that she'll be lost.

As such, the guy is hyper sensitive to his "controlling" situations, controlling anything at all - when around her. He will not want to say anything because he doesn't want to lose her.

This girl, probably, has never had a controlling boyfriend in her life. They probably asked her to settle down from her whore ways and she took that as "controlling."


Women are not stupid. They will manipulate and extort when given the ability.

This is why you never give them that ability. You're supposed to be a confident man. Keyword; MAN. Men control everything (haha FU feminists) and when a mans dominance is threatened, he exerts it to his full ability. Your male dominance has been threatened. Call her out on her bullshit and be a fucking man. If she leaves, then it wasn't worth the effort anyway.
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You all fight for control and forget to enjoy the fighting.
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I know a guy who is in a relationship with a woman who had a very controlling ex boyfriend. This guy is besotted with this woman who is like a 5.5/10 at best and has 3 damn kids! Now the guy is terrified of doing anything wrong or calling her out on anything in case she calls HIM controlling and leaves him. This woman basically walks all over him but if he backs off and becomes unsure if she's the one for him she comes right back saying sorry to him.

The woman does things like has male friends over for the night, is openly playful (flirty) with other male neighbours in front of him, etc. She will get her phone out and start texting and chatting to other people while they are going to a movie or something. He said she makes flirty comments about random men public. Things like that. To her it's no big deal.

I said to this guy that there's just no way i would stand for that sort of thing imo that's blatant disrespect, unless it's an open relationship, and yet she's told him that she hates controlling men like her ex and she wants to be able to just be her and not have a man try to change the way she is.

She said that her ex had ordered her to take down her social media and stop accepting men on facebook and that she wasn't allowed to look at any pics of 'hot guys' on instagram. She wasn't allowed to show her legs or wear low cut tops in public, etc

So where's the line in situations like that? It means a woman who has had a controlling ex partner can now effectively do what she wants and behave how she wants with the new dude and he's supposed to accept it because the other guy was controlling?
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Why do you care so much about this guy's relationship with this woman? It doesn't involve you. Focus on yourself. Wasted energy.
 Quoting: Simple27


Well i know the guy. His kid goes to the same nursery school as mine and i chat to him about conspiracy stuff from time to time. Just seems like he's getting taken advantage of to me.
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I know a guy who is in a relationship with a woman who had a very controlling ex boyfriend. This guy is besotted with this woman who is like a 5.5/10 at best and has 3 damn kids! Now the guy is terrified of doing anything wrong or calling her out on anything in case she calls HIM controlling and leaves him. This woman basically walks all over him but if he backs off and becomes unsure if she's the one for him she comes right back saying sorry to him.

The woman does things like has male friends over for the night, is openly playful (flirty) with other male neighbours in front of him, etc. She will get her phone out and start texting and chatting to other people while they are going to a movie or something. He said she makes flirty comments about random men public. Things like that. To her it's no big deal.

I said to this guy that there's just no way i would stand for that sort of thing imo that's blatant disrespect, unless it's an open relationship, and yet she's told him that she hates controlling men like her ex and she wants to be able to just be her and not have a man try to change the way she is.

She said that her ex had ordered her to take down her social media and stop accepting men on facebook and that she wasn't allowed to look at any pics of 'hot guys' on instagram. She wasn't allowed to show her legs or wear low cut tops in public, etc

So where's the line in situations like that? It means a woman who has had a controlling ex partner can now effectively do what she wants and behave how she wants with the new dude and he's supposed to accept it because the other guy was controlling?
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Why do you care so much about this guy's relationship with this woman? It doesn't involve you. Focus on yourself. Wasted energy.
 Quoting: Simple27


Why do you care so much about an AC's post on his friend's relationship?

I think the woman reminds you of yourself in many ways...
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I know a guy who is in a relationship with a woman who had a very controlling ex boyfriend. This guy is besotted with this woman who is like a 5.5/10 at best and has 3 damn kids! Now the guy is terrified of doing anything wrong or calling her out on anything in case she calls HIM controlling and leaves him. This woman basically walks all over him but if he backs off and becomes unsure if she's the one for him she comes right back saying sorry to him.

The woman does things like has male friends over for the night, is openly playful (flirty) with other male neighbours in front of him, etc. She will get her phone out and start texting and chatting to other people while they are going to a movie or something. He said she makes flirty comments about random men public. Things like that. To her it's no big deal.

I said to this guy that there's just no way i would stand for that sort of thing imo that's blatant disrespect, unless it's an open relationship, and yet she's told him that she hates controlling men like her ex and she wants to be able to just be her and not have a man try to change the way she is.

She said that her ex had ordered her to take down her social media and stop accepting men on facebook and that she wasn't allowed to look at any pics of 'hot guys' on instagram. She wasn't allowed to show her legs or wear low cut tops in public, etc

So where's the line in situations like that? It means a woman who has had a controlling ex partner can now effectively do what she wants and behave how she wants with the new dude and he's supposed to accept it because the other guy was controlling?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73822536


Why do you care so much about this guy's relationship with this woman? It doesn't involve you. Focus on yourself. Wasted energy.
 Quoting: Simple27


Well i know the guy. His kid goes to the same nursery school as mine and i chat to him about conspiracy stuff from time to time. Just seems like he's getting taken advantage of to me.
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He may very well be, but if he is, he has to realize that for himself. The whole world can see it as he is being taken advantage of, but unless HE sees it, it won't matter.

Maybe a better question would be how do men (or women) differentiate between being secure in their relationship with their partner or being walked all over/taken advantage of?
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I know a guy who is in a relationship with a woman who had a very controlling ex boyfriend. This guy is besotted with this woman who is like a 5.5/10 at best and has 3 damn kids! Now the guy is terrified of doing anything wrong or calling her out on anything in case she calls HIM controlling and leaves him. This woman basically walks all over him but if he backs off and becomes unsure if she's the one for him she comes right back saying sorry to him.

The woman does things like has male friends over for the night, is openly playful (flirty) with other male neighbours in front of him, etc. She will get her phone out and start texting and chatting to other people while they are going to a movie or something. He said she makes flirty comments about random men public. Things like that. To her it's no big deal.

I said to this guy that there's just no way i would stand for that sort of thing imo that's blatant disrespect, unless it's an open relationship, and yet she's told him that she hates controlling men like her ex and she wants to be able to just be her and not have a man try to change the way she is.

She said that her ex had ordered her to take down her social media and stop accepting men on facebook and that she wasn't allowed to look at any pics of 'hot guys' on instagram. She wasn't allowed to show her legs or wear low cut tops in public, etc

So where's the line in situations like that? It means a woman who has had a controlling ex partner can now effectively do what she wants and behave how she wants with the new dude and he's supposed to accept it because the other guy was controlling?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73822536


Why do you care so much about this guy's relationship with this woman? It doesn't involve you. Focus on yourself. Wasted energy.
 Quoting: Simple27


Well i know the guy. His kid goes to the same nursery school as mine and i chat to him about conspiracy stuff from time to time. Just seems like he's getting taken advantage of to me.
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He may very well be, but if he is, he has to realize that for himself. The whole world can see it as he is being taken advantage of, but unless HE sees it, it won't matter.

Maybe a better question would be how do men (or women) differentiate between being secure in their relationship with their partner or being walked all over/taken advantage of?
 Quoting: Simple27


That's a subjective question that will vary from one man (or woman) to another. Ergo, there is no answer to that question.
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Didn't their educatin teach them to think for themselves?
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girls fuck the man that is abusive and controlling and have kids with him and the insecure nice ones get to raise the slave debt bastards, thats how you differentiate
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Didn't their educatin teach them to think for themselves?
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LOLOLOLOL, if communists wanted people to think for themselves, we wouldnt have political parties LOLOLOL
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This 'woman' sounds very trashy to me. She is implying she really wants to be single because she is incapable of offering any man respect.

She should be given want she is clamouring for. I.e. no man in her life, other than multiple meaningless flirtations & some casual sex where she is used. This is what she insists on having.

But sounds like your friend would rather be disrespected. He'll end up suffering because of it, and help create more of a monster in her.
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He may very well be, but if he is, he has to realize that for himself. The whole world can see it as he is being taken advantage of, but unless HE sees it, it won't matter.

Maybe a better question would be how do men (or women) differentiate between being secure in their relationship with their partner or being walked all over/taken advantage of?
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That's a subjective question that will vary from one man (or woman) to another. Ergo, there is no answer to that question.
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Exactly. And the same would apply to the original question. This is why I said it is wasted energy to question/focus on someone else's relationship. This guy's standards (the guy in the relationship) are not necessarily the same as the next guy. And the way the woman behaves, isn't the way all women behave.
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He may very well be, but if he is, he has to realize that for himself. The whole world can see it as he is being taken advantage of, but unless HE sees it, it won't matter.

Maybe a better question would be how do men (or women) differentiate between being secure in their relationship with their partner or being walked all over/taken advantage of?
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That's a subjective question that will vary from one man (or woman) to another. Ergo, there is no answer to that question.
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Exactly. And the same would apply to the original question. This is why I said it is wasted energy to question/focus on someone else's relationship. This guy's standards (the guy in the relationship) are not necessarily the same as the next guy. And the way the woman behaves, isn't the way all women behave.
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Good save, Lynn ;)
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He may very well be, but if he is, he has to realize that for himself. The whole world can see it as he is being taken advantage of, but unless HE sees it, it won't matter.

Maybe a better question would be how do men (or women) differentiate between being secure in their relationship with their partner or being walked all over/taken advantage of?
 Quoting: Simple27


That's a subjective question that will vary from one man (or woman) to another. Ergo, there is no answer to that question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25318805


Exactly. And the same would apply to the original question. This is why I said it is wasted energy to question/focus on someone else's relationship. This guy's standards (the guy in the relationship) are not necessarily the same as the next guy. And the way the woman behaves, isn't the way all women behave.
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Good save, Lynn ;)
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hf
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stay away from whore

never marry them, ever. think with brain not head
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Didn't their educatin teach them to think for themselves?
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LOLOLOLOL, if communists wanted people to think for themselves, we wouldnt have political parties LOLOLOL
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I've never seen a pro-british communist.

Marx was all about socilism.
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It's been my experience most can't. No matter the situation. Male or female old young rich poor black white don't seem to matter.

Humans are all tarded n shit
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That's a subjective question that will vary from one man (or woman) to another. Ergo, there is no answer to that question.
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Exactly. And the same would apply to the original question. This is why I said it is wasted energy to question/focus on someone else's relationship. This guy's standards (the guy in the relationship) are not necessarily the same as the next guy. And the way the woman behaves, isn't the way all women behave.
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Good save, Lynn ;)
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hf
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It's nice to see you venture out of your "safe" threads that you usually post in. I hope all is well with you.

peace
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Good save, Lynn ;)
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hf
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It's nice to see you venture out of your "safe" threads that you usually post in. I hope all is well with you.

peace
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Lol, thanks. I hope all is well with you too. : )
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This 'woman' sounds very trashy to me. She is implying she really wants to be single because she is incapable of offering any man respect.

She should be given want she is clamouring for. I.e. no man in her life, other than multiple meaningless flirtations & some casual sex where she is used. This is what she insists on having.

But sounds like your friend would rather be disrespected. He'll end up suffering because of it, and help create more of a monster in her.
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PS. If what this man wants is 'love', he should drop her right now. There cannot be any love where there is disrespect present. He could try calling her on it first, but if she doesn't correct herself - he should be out of there, or at least understand what he's allowing himself to get into (debasement.)





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