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Biblical Help Needed! Will there be a Rapture?

 
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Jesus will not come twice. He will only come once. We will meet him in the clouds as he descends to do battle with the Anti-Christ and his armies. Jesus has his armies too...

This means everyone will go through Tribulation. It is a form of tempering steel to make it stronger. The wheat will be separated from the Chaff....
 Quoting: DuckNCover




No. We will not go through the tribulation. Not all of it. That's kind of the point of a rapture.
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The Rapture concept is a very new idea that the Church came up with within the last 100 or so years. If the Rapture was so evident, then the early monks and clergy would be teaching it....

Its another one of those feels good teachings that is meant to deceive us....
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OP this is the kind of answer I warned you about when asking on this message board. lol


OP don't be deceived. Read the bible - it tells you the truth.
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I was brought up and raised on believe that we will have a rapture, God will come get his children to save them from the last days to protect us. It was brought to my attention today, that several people believe there will be a rapture, while others do not, SO WHICH IS IT?
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Eschatology is a part of theology concerned with the final events of history, or the ultimate destiny of humanity. This concept is commonly referred to as the "end of the world" or "end time".


Eschatological Topic

Futurist belief

Preterist belief

Historicist belief
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

verses about end time
[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]


2 Peter 1:20 King James Version (KJV)

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.


2 Peter 3:10
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
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Re: Biblical Help Needed! Will there be a Rapture?
Jesus will not come twice. He will only come once. We will meet him in the clouds as he descends to do battle with the Anti-Christ and his armies. Jesus has his armies too...

This means everyone will go through Tribulation. It is a form of tempering steel to make it stronger. The wheat will be separated from the Chaff....
 Quoting: DuckNCover


Thank You, I have been told this very thing today, although I had always thought there would be a rapture.
 Quoting: CrimsonTideGirl


Or read I Thess. 4.

There is a rapture, the 501(c)3 church says they will be taken before the tribulation when sound doctrine says otherwise.
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Luke 21:36 New King James Version (NKJV)

36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

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The context is foul events occurring in the last days. So yes, there will be a rapture, only for the ones who are ready though.

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Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Therefore it is reasonable to expect that some will be counted worthy to escape all these things that will happen and to stand before Jesus Christ, is it not?
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Jesus will not come twice. He will only come once. We will meet him in the clouds as he descends to do battle with the Anti-Christ and his armies. Jesus has his armies too...

This means everyone will go through Tribulation. It is a form of tempering steel to make it stronger. The wheat will be separated from the Chaff....
 Quoting: DuckNCover




No. We will not go through the tribulation. Not all of it. That's kind of the point of a rapture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73486291


The Rapture concept is a very new idea that the Church came up with within the last 100 or so years. If the Rapture was so evident, then the early monks and clergy would be teaching it....

Its another one of those feels good teachings that is meant to deceive us....
 Quoting: DuckNCover



OP this is the kind of answer I warned you about when asking on this message board. lol


OP don't be deceived. Read the bible - it tells you the truth.
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you're going to deceive her?
interesting
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Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Therefore it is reasonable to expect that some will be counted worthy to escape all these things that will happen and to stand before Jesus Christ, is it not?
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And who is the Son of Man?
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If you want to be saved from Babylon and enter the New Jerusalem Kingdom of God and Jesus Christ on Earth of true Israel then watch the video.
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Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Therefore it is reasonable to expect that some will be counted worthy to escape all these things that will happen and to stand before Jesus Christ, is it not?


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Yes or No?

hmm
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Revelations mentions people who were killed during the tribulation being in heaven so I guess not a rapture of the heaven bound if you're going by the bible..
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The rapture as you know it was a money making scheme. The rich romans would confess their sins to a man in a private booth, and then "tithe" to avoid punishments

what a joke the catholic church is.
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I was brought up and raised on believe that we will have a rapture, God will come get his children to save them from the last days to protect us. It was brought to my attention today, that several people believe there will be a rapture, while others do not, SO WHICH IS IT?
 Quoting: CrimsonTideGirl


Jesus Christ comes back ONCE.

At the very end, once his enemys have been made his footstool, after the tribulation of those days, Jesus will return, with a new name known only to himself and an army at his back to wage war on his gathered enemies.

The pre tribulation rapture theory is a Jesuit creation, mostly based on the dream of Margaret mcdonald, a 15 year old Scottish girl. In my research, I found the theory was not biblically supported, all things considered.

The bible actually says the complete opposite.
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Re: Biblical Help Needed! Will there be a Rapture?
So who, how and when does Jesus take away some to Himself?
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So who, how and when does Jesus take away some to Himself?
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He doesn't.

Not till the very end.
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So who, how and when does Jesus take away some to Himself?
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144,000
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Jesus will not come twice. He will only come once. We will meet him in the clouds as he descends to do battle with the Anti-Christ and his armies. Jesus has his armies too...


 Quoting: DuckNCover

But isn't his army "floating in the clouds"? I would think it would be hard to fight when you are floating around in the clouds.

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Re: Biblical Help Needed! Will there be a Rapture?
There is a rapture.

Just study the bible and use other sources. Most people waste their time trying to convince others of their viewpoint. Don't get caught up in it.

Great pastors I watch on Youtube are Robert Breaker, JD farag, Jonathan Cahn, and a few amateur online pastors that I learn more from than any traditional pastor
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Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Therefore it is reasonable to expect that some will be counted worthy to escape all these things that will happen and to stand before Jesus Christ, is it not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73905111


And who is the Son of Man?
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So who, how and when does Jesus take away some to Himself?
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^^^^This is very good topic, and to all that posted I am reading all of this and looking up bible vs, so if I don't respond right away it is not because I am not reading or reading the bible.
ROLL TIDE BABY!!
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Know.

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^ The best study of The Rapture.
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There is a rapture.

Just study the bible and use other sources. Most people waste their time trying to convince others of their viewpoint. Don't get caught up in it.

Great pastors I watch on Youtube are Robert Breaker, JD farag, Jonathan Cahn, and a few amateur online pastors that I learn more from than any traditional pastor
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yeah... listen to johnconputin
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So who, how and when does Jesus take away some to Himself?
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144,000
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No, they are not Raptured.

When the Believers are removed, the Jewish witnesses begin their preaching.
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So who, how and when does Jesus take away some to Himself?
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^^^^This is very good topic, and to all that posted I am reading all of this and looking up bible vs, so if I don't respond right away it is not because I am not reading or reading the bible.
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Okay so you haven't read any of my posts have you? lol Seriously you aren't strong enough in your faith yet if you didn't know there was a rapture. Stay out of this thread and read your bible. Satan's minions can smell threads like these a mile away. This is what you need to know - there will be a rapture, it will be SOON, BEFORE THE TRIB, you will go if you repent and turn from your sins.
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So who, how and when does Jesus take away some to Himself?
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He doesn't.

Not till the very end.
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Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.

Therefore it is reasonable to expect that some will be counted worthy to escape all these things that will happen and to stand before Jesus Christ, is it not?

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Sister,

Isaiah 28:10&13 say how the Word is to be read. Line upon line, make sure Matthew 17:21 is in the Bible you are reading.
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Re: Biblical Help Needed! Will there be a Rapture?
There is no rapture of humans ascending into heaven in their bodies of flesh.
This is a wrestling of scriptures and taking the words and meaning from the Spirit and Truth and applying it to the flesh.
It is a heresy by those who first concocted it and a lie unto those they ensnared with it.
It is out of fear of physical death and anguish people grab a firm hold onto that interpretation of men.

The scarier their way appears unto them or the harder it seems the tighter the grip grown on it.

It is a mix of written Word with the minds and desires of men.
They are all liars and what ever you think of the words written unto you it is alone, but not when sowed out unto others, it then goes forth to corrupt others mind's, like Eve did by sowing the fruits of fallacy and lies unto Adam.

It brings death in a way many may never know in full and it plants fear in the pace where none should have been.

By fear it snares by fear it carries away minds, hearts and then souls.

My opinion is this is unacceptable, just as it was before it ever was sent forth in not so long ago eras.
It has been one of the biggest reasons for the fallen away of the church members.

It is a curse.

If it was sent out for the purpose of marking the minds and hearts of man with fear by a false spiritual word/ AKA Lie, then we can see the results of what such a day would be like when such a thing matures over time.

It is not good and yet it is for a reason way before any of us were created.
It is a time stopper and it run out by measure.
The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds.
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Yes
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So who, how and when does Jesus take away some to Himself?
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^^^^This is very good topic, and to all that posted I am reading all of this and looking up bible vs, so if I don't respond right away it is not because I am not reading or reading the bible.
 Quoting: CrimsonTideGirl



Okay so you haven't read any of my posts have you? lol Seriously you aren't strong enough in your faith yet if you didn't know there was a rapture. Stay out of this thread and read your bible. Satan's minions can smell threads like these a mile away. This is what you need to know - there will be a rapture, it will be SOON, BEFORE THE TRIB, you will go if you repent and turn from your sins.
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Not sound doctrine, where is your treasure? But it is fruitless to go back and forth.

Do you think the Mark of the beast occurs before the tribulation?
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There is no rapture of humans ascending into heaven in their bodies of flesh.
This is a wrestling of scriptures and taking the words and meaning from the Spirit and Truth and applying it to the flesh.
It is a heresy by those who first concocted it and a lie unto those they ensnared with it.
It is out of fear of physical death and anguish people grab a firm hold onto that interpretation of men.

The scarier their way appears unto them or the harder it seems the tighter the grip grown on it.

It is a mix of written Word with the minds and desires of men.
They are all liars and what ever you think of the words written unto you it is alone, but not when sowed out unto others, it then goes forth to corrupt others mind's, like Eve did by sowing the fruits of fallacy and lies unto Adam.

It brings death in a way many may never know in full and it plants fear in the pace where none should have been.

By fear it snares by fear it carries away minds, hearts and then souls.

My opinion is this is unacceptable, just as it was before it ever was sent forth in not so long ago eras.
It has been one of the biggest reasons for the fallen away of the church members.

It is a curse.

If it was sent out for the purpose of marking the minds and hearts of man with fear by a false spiritual word/ AKA Lie, then we can see the results of what such a day would be like when such a thing matures over time.

It is not good and yet it is for a reason way before any of us were created.
It is a time stopper and it run out by measure.
 Quoting: Wondering Mind


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