Justice Department demolishes Judge James Robart's case against Trump order | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73869931 United States 02/06/2017 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole Idea here was to get the courts to affirm The president has the authority over immigration. So when trump goes to deport 8m screaming illegals they have no leg to stand on.. One leg of the stool was kicked out to save a few heavily vetted Muslims. Liberals are dumb. |
BeenAround® (OP) User ID: 47991895 United States 02/06/2017 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the link... The government brief noted that the "vast majority" of people affected by the executive order are foreign nationals residing outside the U.S. Yemenis in Yemen, Somalis in Somalia, Libyans in Libya, etc. But Washington State argued that it has an interest, as a state, in stopping the Trump order because "immigration is an important economic driver in Washington." The state's lawyers argued that Microsoft alone employs nearly 5,000 H-1B visa holders, and that is in addition to those working for Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks in the state. Therefore, the people of Washington State have legal standing to challenge the Trump order. The government responded that, whatever Microsoft's hiring preferences, the law is clear: The [Immigration and Naturalization Act]'s carefully reticulated scheme provides for judicial review only at the behest of an alien adversely affected, and even then only if the alien is subject to removal proceedings. Under longstanding principles exemplified by the doctrine of consular nonreviewability, an alien abroad cannot obtain judicial review of the denial of a visa (or his failure to be admitted as a refugee). It follows that a third party, like Washington, has no "judicially cognizable interest" in such a denial. In other words, a state cannot stop a president's national security directive to satisfy the wishes of a particularly big business in that state. You mean Microsoft, Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks don't get to decide/dictate national security? Last Edited by BeenAround® on 02/06/2017 09:53 AM Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73869931 United States 02/06/2017 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3d chess... v/s marbles. Trump is very used to dealing with mini fiefdoms, how do you think he succeeded as a developer? Buy leading from the rear? Imagine all the zoning boards, community groups, mayors and county planning shitheads.. He is way ahead of the libs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37083750 Ireland 02/06/2017 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3d chess... v/s marbles. Trump is very used to dealing with mini fiefdoms, how do you think he succeeded as a developer? Buy leading from the rear? Imagine all the zoning boards, community groups, mayors and county planning shitheads.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73869931 He is way ahead of the libs. [link to i1.kym-cdn.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72362284 United States 02/06/2017 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Americans (USA) need those jobs. Many citizens working at McDonalds in Seattle have one or more degrees. No "good" are jobs available to them. Another problem is 'foreign born graduates' are getting into medical, engineering, IT, etc. university programs before and in place of qualified citizens of USA. Thousands of citizens are displaced, kicked out of career paths they work very hard to get into every year by foreign born students who get preferential treatment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70661422 United States 02/06/2017 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the link... Quoting: BeenAround® The government brief noted that the "vast majority" of people affected by the executive order are foreign nationals residing outside the U.S. Yemenis in Yemen, Somalis in Somalia, Libyans in Libya, etc. But Washington State argued that it has an interest, as a state, in stopping the Trump order because "immigration is an important economic driver in Washington." The state's lawyers argued that Microsoft alone employs nearly 5,000 H-1B visa holders, and that is in addition to those working for Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks in the state. Therefore, the people of Washington State have legal standing to challenge the Trump order. The government responded that, whatever Microsoft's hiring preferences, the law is clear: The [Immigration and Naturalization Act]'s carefully reticulated scheme provides for judicial review only at the behest of an alien adversely affected, and even then only if the alien is subject to removal proceedings. Under longstanding principles exemplified by the doctrine of consular nonreviewability, an alien abroad cannot obtain judicial review of the denial of a visa (or his failure to be admitted as a refugee). It follows that a third party, like Washington, has no "judicially cognizable interest" in such a denial. In other words, a state cannot stop a president's national security directive to satisfy the wishes of a particularly big business in that state. You mean Microsoft, Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks don't get to decide/dictate national security? the judge is standing up for business that want cheap labour to cut american workers in there ouw country? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70631725 United States 02/06/2017 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In other words, a state cannot stop a president's national security directive to satisfy the wishes of a particularly big business in that state. Quoting: BeenAround® You mean Microsoft, Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks don't get to decide/dictate national security? Must-read about this aspect of it, as it's YUUGE. Dems are as predicted once again outing themselves and their agenda. 4D chess indeed. [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69439262 United States 02/06/2017 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The judge is the seditious one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73086095 The judicial system means something different from what they tell you. It's a declaration of ownership, not a process. If this gets resolved in Trump's favor, CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN and ask that the judge get impeached. He overstepped his authority big time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40965935 United States 02/06/2017 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real situation is as follows: The President is elected by and represents The People. The President is not elected by and does not have to represent Corporations. It is not the duty of the President to make sure that all things are best for the Corporations. This action harms Corporations and helps The People. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70631725 United States 02/06/2017 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from the treehouse link: The corporations who will be most vocal against the security visa executive action, will be those business interests who rely upon non-U.S. workers. The America electorate is about to discover just how many foreign workers are inside the U.S. economic system. .... The Visa suspension from the seven states of concern for terrorism, places the edge of the Q-Beam light right near the UniParty holy grail of unfettered employment immigration. Foreign and domestic corporations pay the UniParty big money to keep the U.S. economic doors wide open. ... Immigration is where we will all easily identify the hidden UniParty apparatus as it pertains to corporate interests. Immigration is where the GOPe will no longer be able to hide. The republican half of the Uniparty have been paid tens of millions to facilitate open-door migration and ridiculously lax visa programs therein. |
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just a dude User ID: 71843037 United States 02/06/2017 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3d chess... v/s marbles. Trump is very used to dealing with mini fiefdoms, how do you think he succeeded as a developer? Buy leading from the rear? Imagine all the zoning boards, community groups, mayors and county planning shitheads.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73869931 He is way ahead of the libs. You forgot the mafiosi. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70631725 United States 02/06/2017 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the judge is standing up for business that want cheap labour to cut american workers in there ouw country? Quoting: Goneviral How many people from the 7 countries could they be employing that would effect their operations? Inquiring minds want to know, and they're about to find out! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69439262 United States 02/06/2017 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the link... Quoting: BeenAround® The government brief noted that the "vast majority" of people affected by the executive order are foreign nationals residing outside the U.S. Yemenis in Yemen, Somalis in Somalia, Libyans in Libya, etc. But Washington State argued that it has an interest, as a state, in stopping the Trump order because "immigration is an important economic driver in Washington." The state's lawyers argued that Microsoft alone employs nearly 5,000 H-1B visa holders, and that is in addition to those working for Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks in the state. Therefore, the people of Washington State have legal standing to challenge the Trump order. The government responded that, whatever Microsoft's hiring preferences, the law is clear: The [Immigration and Naturalization Act]'s carefully reticulated scheme provides for judicial review only at the behest of an alien adversely affected, and even then only if the alien is subject to removal proceedings. Under longstanding principles exemplified by the doctrine of consular nonreviewability, an alien abroad cannot obtain judicial review of the denial of a visa (or his failure to be admitted as a refugee). It follows that a third party, like Washington, has no "judicially cognizable interest" in such a denial. In other words, a state cannot stop a president's national security directive to satisfy the wishes of a particularly big business in that state. You mean Microsoft, Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks don't get to decide/dictate national security? the judge is standing up for business that want cheap labour to cut american workers in there ouw country? There's pay dirt in following the money with this one. Check into his relatives and who employs them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69439262 United States 02/06/2017 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from the treehouse link: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70631725 The corporations who will be most vocal against the security visa executive action, will be those business interests who rely upon non-U.S. workers. The America electorate is about to discover just how many foreign workers are inside the U.S. economic system. .... The Visa suspension from the seven states of concern for terrorism, places the edge of the Q-Beam light right near the UniParty holy grail of unfettered employment immigration. Foreign and domestic corporations pay the UniParty big money to keep the U.S. economic doors wide open. ... Immigration is where we will all easily identify the hidden UniParty apparatus as it pertains to corporate interests. Immigration is where the GOPe will no longer be able to hide. The republican half of the Uniparty have been paid tens of millions to facilitate open-door migration and ridiculously lax visa programs therein. This so-called judge falsely claimed from the bench that nobody from these 7 states had been arrested for terrorism. Man, this guy must be smoking crack. Is there a drug testing program for federal judges? Or does putting on a black robe make you immune to checks and balances? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70631725 United States 02/06/2017 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from the treehouse link: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70631725 The corporations who will be most vocal against the security visa executive action, will be those business interests who rely upon non-U.S. workers. The America electorate is about to discover just how many foreign workers are inside the U.S. economic system. .... The Visa suspension from the seven states of concern for terrorism, places the edge of the Q-Beam light right near the UniParty holy grail of unfettered employment immigration. Foreign and domestic corporations pay the UniParty big money to keep the U.S. economic doors wide open. ... Immigration is where we will all easily identify the hidden UniParty apparatus as it pertains to corporate interests. Immigration is where the GOPe will no longer be able to hide. The republican half of the Uniparty have been paid tens of millions to facilitate open-door migration and ridiculously lax visa programs therein. This so-called judge falsely claimed from the bench that nobody from these 7 states had been arrested for terrorism. Man, this guy must be smoking crack. Is there a drug testing program for federal judges? Or does putting on a black robe make you immune to checks and balances? Wow, and I thought his spokesperson was a big liar. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73086095 United States 02/06/2017 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the judge is standing up for business that want cheap labour to cut american workers in there ouw country? Quoting: Goneviral How many people from the 7 countries could they be employing that would effect their operations? Thats immaterial. The entire point is to declare the borders null and void and invite in armies of destroyers. The exact people who surround their own borders with fences, military patrols and landmines and ribbons of concrete barriers are telling the rest of the world to come on it and help themselves to America for their own agenda. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73086095 United States 02/06/2017 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They keep poking the Lion, Lion is getting irritated, Lion will attack and kill. The Libs are so thick that they still fail to realise that Trump is the new master. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73865881 The entire judicial system has become literally antiAmerican in interpreting it's priority to turn over control to anyone other than Americans. The constitution was never intended to be a suicide document. |
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Ralphyboy User ID: 73707137 United States 02/06/2017 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real situation is as follows: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40965935 The President is elected by and represents The People. The President is not elected by and does not have to represent Corporations. It is not the duty of the President to make sure that all things are best for the Corporations. This action harms Corporations and helps The People. Corporations ARE people so I been told. And we all may be STRAWMEN if memory serves. Last Edited by Ralphyboy on 02/06/2017 10:26 AM Ralphyboy |
Deplorableduckhunter User ID: 17862645 United States 02/06/2017 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The judge is the seditious one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73086095 The judicial system means something different from what they tell you. It's a declaration of ownership, not a process. If this gets resolved in Trump's favor, CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN and ask that the judge get impeached. He overstepped his authority big time. lol Bullsit |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53273258 United States 02/06/2017 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Americans (USA) need those jobs. Many citizens working at McDonalds in Seattle have one or more degrees. No "good" are jobs available to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72362284 Another problem is 'foreign born graduates' are getting into medical, engineering, IT, etc. university programs before and in place of qualified citizens of USA. Thousands of citizens are displaced, kicked out of career paths they work very hard to get into every year by foreign born students who get preferential treatment. Add to that the fact that in Texas, and I'm sure many other southern areas, you can't get a job unless you speak Mexican. They will hire a bilingual first. They have to. The place is crawling with non-English speaking peoples and because of this, the majority don't bother to learn English. They don't have to. |
Vision Thing User ID: 73654620 United States 02/06/2017 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real situation is as follows: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40965935 The President is elected by and represents The People. The President is not elected by and does not have to represent Corporations. It is not the duty of the President to make sure that all things are best for the Corporations. This action harms Corporations and helps The People. Good summary. |
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