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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. New Spillway Now Being Used

 
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Update from DWR for GLPers monitoring the situation...


The California Department of Water Resources has activated the Emergency Action Plan for Oroville Dam High Flow Operations. This is a precautionary measure only. No hazard or threat to the Oroville Facilities exists.
Due to forecasted storms, DWR plans to increase releases from the Oroville main spillway and releases into the Feather River later this week.
Current releases to the Feather River are approximately 20,000 CFS with current releases from the Oroville main spillway at 10,800 CFS.
DWR plans to increase total releases to the Feather River to up to 30,000 CFS starting Friday, April 5 at 10 a.m.. Main spillway releases are anticipated to be up to 21,500 CFS starting Friday, April 5 at 10 a.m.
Forecasts can change quickly and may affect projected operations.
DWR will continue to notify local emergency management agencies and entities along the Feather River of significant changes in releases from Lake Oroville.
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Just heard on kfbk radio (local). The new spillway has 7 feet minimum concrete up to 100 feet thick in areas where the bedrock was eroded...


Not sure if true but something to consider.
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CAPTAIN...NEW THREAD SAYS WE'VE TAKEN A HIT TO THE AFT SHIELDING...! A CHUNK MAY HAVE BLOWN OFF OF THE ENTERPRISE..ER..UH, I MEAN THE UH..OR-OVILLE...SIR.
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unzipping begins
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CAN ANYONE CONFIRM?....SCOTTY?!
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Just heard on kfbk radio (local). The new spillway has 7 feet minimum concrete up to 100 feet thick in areas where the bedrock was eroded...


Not sure if true but something to consider.
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I like the oroville show reference. preprogramming ? like all the 9/11 referece in tv, movie and even cartoons

not going to matter how thick the concrete is if water gets under it. just more weight to fall
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Here's the deal. If Fort Peck Dam collapses it will wipe out every dam and major highway bridge from Montana to Saint Louis Missouri.

Needless to say that event would destroy our economy.
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AND..IS IT IN ANY DANGER?...HOW FULL IS IT?
HOW OLD?...R STORMS COMING?
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Man, I LOVE your enthusiasm! 5a

It damned near collapsed in 2011 and conditions are favorable this year for it to happen. In all honesty, it looks as though Oroville is the horse to bet on now Joey! pennywise
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IT WAS 2017....NOT 2011 UNLESS U KNO' MORE JOEY...I'D LIKE TA THINK DAT IVE ONLY PISSED AWAY TWO YEARZ O MY LIFE ON DIS TOPIC....NOT 8.
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If Oroville goes ... well it just takes out a SMALL slice of California, and NO Nuke plants.

If Ft Peck goes ... well it takes out everything the entire length of the Missouri River, including multiple Interstate Highways, Cities, and SEVERAL Nuke Plants ... AND THEN starts working on St. Louis and the Mississippi River, with it's dams, bridges, and I think MORE Nuke Plants.

Back during the Great Missouri River floods of 2011(?), which were triggered by HUGE rain and snow melt events out in Wyoming, Montana, and western Canada, Ft. Peck was in serious trouble. Nothing that they have done since has remedied it's basic problem as a dam.

The loss of Oroville would be a pimple on an elephant compared to the loss of Ft. Peck.
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AND..IS IT IN ANY DANGER?...HOW FULL IS IT?
HOW OLD?...R STORMS COMING?
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Man, I LOVE your enthusiasm! 5a

It damned near collapsed in 2011 and conditions are favorable this year for it to happen. In all honesty, it looks as though Oroville is the horse to bet on now Joey! pennywise
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IT WAS 2017....NOT 2011 UNLESS U KNO' MORE JOEY...I'D LIKE TA THINK DAT IVE ONLY PISSED AWAY TWO YEARZ O MY LIFE ON DIS TOPIC....NOT 8.
 Quoting: UH 76862800


If Oroville goes ... well it just takes out a SMALL slice of California, and NO Nuke plants.

If Ft Peck goes ... well it takes out everything the entire length of the Missouri River, including multiple Interstate Highways, Cities, and SEVERAL Nuke Plants ... AND THEN starts working on St. Louis and the Mississippi River, with it's dams, bridges, and I think MORE Nuke Plants.

Back during the Great Missouri River floods of 2011(?), which were triggered by HUGE rain and snow melt events out in Wyoming, Montana, and western Canada, Ft. Peck was in serious trouble. Nothing that they have done since has remedied it's basic problem as a dam.

The loss of Oroville would be a pimple on an elephant compared to the loss of Ft. Peck.
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San Joaquin valley is as big as some state's..and Oroville isn't the only dam that could fail..San Luis and Don Pedro have their own issues and they rest above millions of folks.
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Man, I LOVE your enthusiasm! 5a

It damned near collapsed in 2011 and conditions are favorable this year for it to happen. In all honesty, it looks as though Oroville is the horse to bet on now Joey! pennywise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77520218


IT WAS 2017....NOT 2011 UNLESS U KNO' MORE JOEY...I'D LIKE TA THINK DAT IVE ONLY PISSED AWAY TWO YEARZ O MY LIFE ON DIS TOPIC....NOT 8.
 Quoting: UH 76862800


If Oroville goes ... well it just takes out a SMALL slice of California, and NO Nuke plants.

If Ft Peck goes ... well it takes out everything the entire length of the Missouri River, including multiple Interstate Highways, Cities, and SEVERAL Nuke Plants ... AND THEN starts working on St. Louis and the Mississippi River, with it's dams, bridges, and I think MORE Nuke Plants.

Back during the Great Missouri River floods of 2011(?), which were triggered by HUGE rain and snow melt events out in Wyoming, Montana, and western Canada, Ft. Peck was in serious trouble. Nothing that they have done since has remedied it's basic problem as a dam.

The loss of Oroville would be a pimple on an elephant compared to the loss of Ft. Peck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77524540


San Joaquin valley is as big as some state's..and Oroville isn't the only dam that could fail..San Luis and Don Pedro have their own issues and they rest above millions of folks.
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On the next episode of DAM FIGHTS !!!
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Oroville Spillways FascFacts

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Oroville Spillways Fast Facts

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Will the spillway be able to handle the increased flow today?
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nice piece of video work.

thanks
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Just heard on kfbk radio (local). The new spillway has 7 feet minimum concrete up to 100 feet thick in areas where the bedrock was eroded...


Not sure if true but something to consider.
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I wonder if it's cured.

1 month dry time per inch of concrete.
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Will the spillway be able to handle the increased flow today?
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no way
so doomed
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Did they get the surfboards out?
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Man, I LOVE your enthusiasm! 5a

It damned near collapsed in 2011 and conditions are favorable this year for it to happen. In all honesty, it looks as though Oroville is the horse to bet on now Joey! pennywise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77520218


IT WAS 2017....NOT 2011 UNLESS U KNO' MORE JOEY...I'D LIKE TA THINK DAT IVE ONLY PISSED AWAY TWO YEARZ O MY LIFE ON DIS TOPIC....NOT 8.
 Quoting: UH 76862800


If Oroville goes ... well it just takes out a SMALL slice of California, and NO Nuke plants.

If Ft Peck goes ... well it takes out everything the entire length of the Missouri River, including multiple Interstate Highways, Cities, and SEVERAL Nuke Plants ... AND THEN starts working on St. Louis and the Mississippi River, with it's dams, bridges, and I think MORE Nuke Plants.

Back during the Great Missouri River floods of 2011(?), which were triggered by HUGE rain and snow melt events out in Wyoming, Montana, and western Canada, Ft. Peck was in serious trouble. Nothing that they have done since has remedied it's basic problem as a dam.

The loss of Oroville would be a pimple on an elephant compared to the loss of Ft. Peck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77524540


San Joaquin valley is as big as some state's..and Oroville isn't the only dam that could fail..San Luis and Don Pedro have their own issues and they rest above millions of folks.
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The San Joaquin ( SAN WAH KEEN) valley is chock full of tyrd world sub human detritus, in short, simultaneous dam failures would be a net positive if all of them were washed away, but alas

WE’RE NOT THAT LUCKY...
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can see the big green green spot right there at about 4:54

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quote, Just heard on kfbk radio (local). The new spillway has 7 feet minimum concrete up to 100 feet thick in areas where the bedrock was eroded...

quote, Just heard on kfbk radio (local). The new spillway has 7 feet minimum concrete up to 100 feet thick in areas where the bedrock was eroded...

They only used concrete on the top, all the build up and all the emergency spill area is rolled fly ash paste. Rolled fly ash has a history of not being stable or able to stand strong water flow, a history of failures. The fly ash work was meant to be replaced over the next several years.

Also, looks like there is a green spot on both sides of the dam, maybe all the way across now?
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quote, Just heard on kfbk radio (local). The new spillway has 7 feet minimum concrete up to 100 feet thick in areas where the bedrock was eroded...

quote, Just heard on kfbk radio (local). The new spillway has 7 feet minimum concrete up to 100 feet thick in areas where the bedrock was eroded...

They only used concrete on the top, all the build up and all the emergency spill area is rolled fly ash paste. Rolled fly ash has a history of not being stable or able to stand strong water flow, a history of failures. The fly ash work was meant to be replaced over the next several years.

Also, looks like there is a green spot on both sides of the dam, maybe all the way across now?
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That green spot doesn't really seem to be indicative of leaking during the winter. It rained lots, so everything is green. Wait till the summer and if there's a green spot, you know there's water feeding that grass.
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the biggest issue i can see is that they haven't given
this this thing enough time to Cure, before running
it at full throttle.
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Dont miss your daily look at Jack in VA:

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Big storms on the way.

And he posted this. Did you guys read it yet?

[link to www.agenda21radio.news]

snip, with a photo at the link:

"Patch and Pray in action. Workers using a leaf blower to dry leaking seams on the Oroville Dam main spillway reveal a large leak penetrating through the soil, roller compacted concrete and the 2 1/2 foot thick steel reinforced structural concrete. Workers will blow out the seam in the hope it will dry enough to put down an epoxy compound the hope it will stop the leak from surfacing on the spillway. Experts see this as a cosmetic approach and will not solve the problem of water being pushed through the spillway at pressures that exceed 100,000 psi. March 15, 2019."

I hope that thing holds. Yikes.
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Dont miss your daily look at Jack in VA:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Big storms on the way.

And he posted this. Did you guys read it yet?

[link to www.agenda21radio.news]

snip, with a photo at the link:

"Patch and Pray in action. Workers using a leaf blower to dry leaking seams on the Oroville Dam main spillway reveal a large leak penetrating through the soil, roller compacted concrete and the 2 1/2 foot thick steel reinforced structural concrete. Workers will blow out the seam in the hope it will dry enough to put down an epoxy compound the hope it will stop the leak from surfacing on the spillway. Experts see this as a cosmetic approach and will not solve the problem of water being pushed through the spillway at pressures that exceed 100,000 psi. March 15, 2019."

I hope that thing holds. Yikes.
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Dont miss your daily look at Jack in VA:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Big storms on the way.

And he posted this. Did you guys read it yet?

[link to www.agenda21radio.news]

snip, with a photo at the link:

"Patch and Pray in action. Workers using a leaf blower to dry leaking seams on the Oroville Dam main spillway reveal a large leak penetrating through the soil, roller compacted concrete and the 2 1/2 foot thick steel reinforced structural concrete. Workers will blow out the seam in the hope it will dry enough to put down an epoxy compound the hope it will stop the leak from surfacing on the spillway. Experts see this as a cosmetic approach and will not solve the problem of water being pushed through the spillway at pressures that exceed 100,000 psi. March 15, 2019."

I hope that thing holds. Yikes.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


just checked Jack in link above. They've been checking drains and exterior walls with flashlights all night.
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UPDATE: As of 10 AM this morning, flows down the main spillway have increased to 14,800 cubic feet per second (cfs). Total releases to the Feather River will remain at approximately 25,000 cfs through Sunday.
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the biggest issue i can see is that they haven't given
this this thing enough time to Cure, before running
it at full throttle.
 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover


Exactly. 30 days per inch of concrete.

Any additive to accelerate curing weakens the concrete.

So it's either still wet or cured but at expense of strength of concrete.
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the biggest issue i can see is that they haven't given
this this thing enough time to Cure, before running
it at full throttle.
 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover


Exactly. 30 days per inch of concrete.

Any additive to accelerate curing weakens the concrete.

So it's either still wet or cured but at expense of strength of concrete.
 Quoting: Nonentity


This is true. I used to be a concrete contractor.

If this shit show continues its regularly scheduled programming, we'll witness an epic collapse of this dam.

Unfortunately, the Central Valley which is the richest agricultural region on the planet will be ruined forever.
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the biggest issue i can see is that they haven't given
this this thing enough time to Cure, before running
it at full throttle.
 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover


Exactly. 30 days per inch of concrete.

Any additive to accelerate curing weakens the concrete.

So it's either still wet or cured but at expense of strength of concrete.
 Quoting: Nonentity


This is true. I used to be a concrete contractor.

If this shit show continues its regularly scheduled programming, we'll witness an epic collapse of this dam.

Unfortunately, the Central Valley which is the richest agricultural region on the planet will be ruined forever.
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All of you are correct,been in the trades for 35 years. Concrete is a fickle bitch! Depends how far they had to haul it also,can't let concrete heat up,lot of variables. But as much canned fruit as you can afford.
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[link to www.timebomb2000.com] Post #7290

There's an earthquake fault running right through Lake Oroville from south to north. It's called the Miner's Ranch fault. It was discovered long after the dam was built by Beale Air Force pilots. If you dont have anything else to do, here's the study from 2010 by South Feather River Water and Power. Oroville gets their drinking water from Miner's Ranch Reservoir aka Saddle Dam. The fault is capable of a 6.5 earthquake.

[link to southfeather.com]
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[link to www.timebomb2000.com] Post #7290

There's an earthquake fault running right through Lake Oroville from south to north. It's called the Miner's Ranch fault. It was discovered long after the dam was built by Beale Air Force pilots. If you dont have anything else to do, here's the study from 2010 by South Feather River Water and Power. Oroville gets their drinking water from Miner's Ranch Reservoir aka Saddle Dam. The fault is capable of a 6.5 earthquake.

[link to southfeather.com]
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Better link about the Miner's Ranch Fault:

[link to southfeather.com]
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okg you mean to
tell me they put substandard 6000
psi concrete and let it
heat up?

CHARLIE DONT SURF!