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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. New Spillway Now Being Used

 
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quote, There's an earthquake fault running right through Lake Oroville from south to north. It's called the Miner's Ranch fault. It was discovered long after the dam was built by Beale Air Force pilots.

They knew about the faults where they wanted to pile up all that mine dump waste to get rid of it instead of reclaiming it. The papers of the day detail how the officials hid the earthquake data. A little research still brings it up.
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Oro Dam Blvd. East will remain open. We'll continue to monitor the spillway performance and adjust operations in response to updated forecasts.

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Tomorrow around 10 AM flows from the Oroville main spillway will increase to 25,000 cubic feet per second (cfs). Releases to the Feather River will remain consistent at 25,000 cfs

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Oro Dam Blvd. East will remain open. We'll continue to monitor the spillway performance and adjust operations in response to updated forecasts.

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Tomorrow around 10 AM flows from the Oroville main spillway will increase to 25,000 cubic feet per second (cfs). Releases to the Feather River will remain consistent at 25,000 cfs

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To put 25,000 cfs into perspective ... the normal flow that is sent through the Grand Canyon out of the Hoover Dam is around 17,500 cfs.

The Niagara River carries 200,000 cfs, but MOST of that water is diverted into it's hydro complex and does not go over Niagara Falls itself.
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Success is the result of good judgement.
Good judgment is the result of experience.
Experience is often the result of bad judgement.
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Oro Dam Blvd. East will remain open. We'll continue to monitor the spillway performance and adjust operations in response to updated forecasts.

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Tomorrow around 10 AM flows from the Oroville main spillway will increase to 25,000 cubic feet per second (cfs). Releases to the Feather River will remain consistent at 25,000 cfs

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75545597


To put 25,000 cfs into perspective ... the normal flow that is sent through the Grand Canyon out of the Hoover Dam is around 17,500 cfs.

The Niagara River carries 200,000 cfs, but MOST of that water is diverted into it's hydro complex and does not go over Niagara Falls itself.
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Glen Canyon Dam. But we know what you meant.
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the biggest issue i can see is that they haven't given
this this thing enough time to Cure, before running
it at full throttle.
 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover


Exactly. 30 days per inch of concrete.

Any additive to accelerate curing weakens the concrete.

So it's either still wet or cured but at expense of strength of concrete.
 Quoting: Nonentity


This is true. I used to be a concrete contractor.

If this shit show continues its regularly scheduled programming, we'll witness an epic collapse of this dam.

Unfortunately, the Central Valley which is the richest agricultural region on the planet will be ruined forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70976636

All of you are correct,been in the trades for 35 years. Concrete is a fickle bitch! Depends how far they had to haul it also,can't let concrete heat up,lot of variables. But as much canned fruit as you can afford.
 Quoting: SNOPRO98


They built a concrete plant right on the hillside and made the concrete on site.

Also it was over 100 degrees for most of the summer when they were working on the spillways, don't know if that makes any difference.

But Oroville Dam is very remote, they had to build a concrete plant and make the concrete right there, it wasn't trucked in.
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Will it be able to handle 25,000 cfs today?
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Bump...where's UH..he get banned?
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Will it be able to handle 25,000 cfs today?
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BIGGER VIBRATIONS..THATS FO SURE...

11AM DATA SHOULD BE OUT.
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...

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GOTTA BUMP THIS PAGE..AND GET READY FOR THE SPIN OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE...
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BUMP 4 DATA AVAIL.
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SNEAKY SAN LUIS SNUCK ANOTHER ONE HOUR OF THE MYSTERY 4 FOOT JUMP IN AT 4 FUCKIN AM...!
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DATA BUMP FOR CDEC....IT WORKS.
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5 PM NUMBERS!
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GOTTA BUMP THIS PAGE..AND GET READY FOR THE SPIN OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE...
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BUMP 4 DATA AVAIL.
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...

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GOTTA BUMP THIS PAGE..AND GET READY FOR THE SPIN OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE...
 Quoting: UH 42156718


BUMP 4 DATA AVAIL.
 Quoting: UH 42156718

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853.56....APPROX. 25 K IN AND OUT....VIBRATIONS......
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Exactly. 30 days per inch of concrete.

Any additive to accelerate curing weakens the concrete.

So it's either still wet or cured but at expense of strength of concrete.
 Quoting: Nonentity


This is true. I used to be a concrete contractor.

If this shit show continues its regularly scheduled programming, we'll witness an epic collapse of this dam.

Unfortunately, the Central Valley which is the richest agricultural region on the planet will be ruined forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70976636

All of you are correct,been in the trades for 35 years. Concrete is a fickle bitch! Depends how far they had to haul it also,can't let concrete heat up,lot of variables. But as much canned fruit as you can afford.
 Quoting: SNOPRO98


They built a concrete plant right on the hillside and made the concrete on site.

Also it was over 100 degrees for most of the summer when they were working on the spillways, don't know if that makes any difference.

But Oroville Dam is very remote, they had to build a concrete plant and make the concrete right there, it wasn't trucked in.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Mathews Ready Mix was trucking plenty of concrete in from about 5-6 miles away.
What the Hell?...
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..GOOD VIBRATIONS..SHOULD GET IT UP HERE...PLAYIN THE BEACH BOYZ.
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3 PM NUMBERS SHOULD B IN..

RAINS TOMM. MONDAY!
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GOTTA BUMP THIS PAGE..AND GET READY FOR THE SPIN OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE...
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BUMP 4 DATA AVAIL.
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 Quoting: UH 71124740


853.56....APPROX. 25 K IN AND OUT....VIBRATIONS......
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NO 3 PM DATA YET..2PM WAS 853.50
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Exactly. 30 days per inch of concrete.

Any additive to accelerate curing weakens the concrete.

So it's either still wet or cured but at expense of strength of concrete.
 Quoting: Nonentity


This is true. I used to be a concrete contractor.

If this shit show continues its regularly scheduled programming, we'll witness an epic collapse of this dam.

Unfortunately, the Central Valley which is the richest agricultural region on the planet will be ruined forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70976636

All of you are correct,been in the trades for 35 years. Concrete is a fickle bitch! Depends how far they had to haul it also,can't let concrete heat up,lot of variables. But as much canned fruit as you can afford.
 Quoting: SNOPRO98


They built a concrete plant right on the hillside and made the concrete on site.

Also it was over 100 degrees for most of the summer when they were working on the spillways, don't know if that makes any difference.

But Oroville Dam is very remote, they had to build a concrete plant and make the concrete right there, it wasn't trucked in.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Where ever it was made, concrete needs about 30 days per inch depth to fully cure.

Anything that speeds up cure time weakens the concrete. Even hot temps but humidity does impact too.

There is no freaking way all that concrete is cured. One crack and that water will wash out uncured concrete.

7 feet is 7 years of curing and that's the thin part.

100 feet depth of concrete? Most of that has got to be very wet.
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Juan is a complete idiot as well as his subscribers. They had a power keg of a snowpack a month ago. But no, they ran 4k cfs out the hydro plant and let the sucker fill up all the while ole Juan B (wanna b) just acts like it's such a great idea and even made a video taking bets on when the new spillway was going to open a few weeks back, all the while never saying anything about the huge snowpack. The guy is a shill or a complete moron. They should of been dumping water a month and a half ago out the power plant. Ifk they did they wouldn't be using the spillway right now. One good pineapple and every levee from Gridley to Sacramento is gone, even if that dam holds. If Oroville lake is a hundred feet low it's not going to cause a drought in California, not with that snowpack. So saving that water can't be for greed's sake, most of the water is just gets washed out to the ocean this time of year anyway. Makes no good sense to even be in this situation. Anyone have the latest snowpack totals above Oroville?
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Juan is a complete idiot as well as his subscribers. They had a power keg of a snowpack a month ago. But no, they ran 4k cfs out the hydro plant and let the sucker fill up all the while ole Juan B (wanna b) just acts like it's such a great idea and even made a video taking bets on when the new spillway was going to open a few weeks back, all the while never saying anything about the huge snowpack. The guy is a shill or a complete moron. They should of been dumping water a month and a half ago out the power plant. Ifk they did they wouldn't be using the spillway right now. One good pineapple and every levee from Gridley to Sacramento is gone, even if that dam holds. If Oroville lake is a hundred feet low it's not going to cause a drought in California, not with that snowpack. So saving that water can't be for greed's sake, most of the water is just gets washed out to the ocean this time of year anyway. Makes no good sense to even be in this situation. Anyone have the latest snowpack totals above Oroville?
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This is from four days ago. Sounds like it hasn't started melting yet. And yes there is a lot.
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Good info, appreciated
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Good info, appreciated
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 Quoting: Kung Fu Lover


it looks like all 8 gates are open. When they first opened it, the two end gates were shut. 1 and 8. 8 had the worst cracks in the anchor tendons.

Not too cautious? Or they need all 8 open to lower the lake faster?
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Here's link to video cam looking down on the gates and then toggles looking further down the spillway:

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]

And, here's a link to video cam looking up at the spillway from the bottom:

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
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Here's link to video cam looking down on the gates and then toggles looking further down the spillway:

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]

And, here's a link to video cam looking up at the spillway from the bottom:

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
 Quoting: MarketPulse


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