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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. New Spillway Now Being Used

 
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Oroville reading at 11%

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Word of the street is that Oroville Dam is about to fail.
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that is possible because they didn't fix the REAL problems... and the left embankment as you view the dam from the front has really serious internal problems.. plus there is that leaking water thru the other embankment proven by that green grass.
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Jack in VA has been showing what appears to be water underneath the new spillway. That rock in that area is not good bedrock.

If you read about the St Francis Dam failure in 1928, it was a big cement dam, but they didn't know about the faults in the rock to the sides. There had been ancient landslides and the rock was not solid as it appeared. First time they filled it, water began to move through the rock on the sides, the abutments where the cement was hooked in, and it created hydraulic uplift. That is, in more simple terms, water pressure lifting up whatever is on top, in this case rock and cement. Hundreds of people drowned when the dam failed, and it failed very quickly, like in a few hours.

People can't picture the power of water. You can't imagine water forcing up a cement dam or the rock above. But it can. Hydraulic uplift was not well understood 90 years ago but it is now, and it is scary.


Cahill and Robert Bea, the disaster guy from Berkley, both think water is moving through rocks under the gates, which is rock to the side of the dam itself. The spillway is off to the side. Can hydraulic uplift make the new spillway, which is well bolted into the rock, go up? Maybe not. But if it is starting to move underneath and fissures widen, it could bring down the lake to whatever depth it erodes. I remain very concerned. I wish they would lower the water as much as possible and reduce water pressure on any seepage in the rocks....or into that green spot.
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This is getting kind of spooky.
Nobody knows what the level of Oroville Reservoir is anymore.
I smell something rotten.
Dam failure imminent?
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Body bags being trucked into Sacramento?
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Word of the street is that Oroville Dam is about to fail.
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that is possible because they didn't fix the REAL problems... and the left embankment as you view the dam from the front has really serious internal problems.. plus there is that leaking water thru the other embankment proven by that green grass.
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Jack in VA has been showing what appears to be water underneath the new spillway. That rock in that area is not good bedrock.

If you read about the St Francis Dam failure in 1928, it was a big cement dam, but they didn't know about the faults in the rock to the sides. There had been ancient landslides and the rock was not solid as it appeared. First time they filled it, water began to move through the rock on the sides, the abutments where the cement was hooked in, and it created hydraulic uplift. That is, in more simple terms, water pressure lifting up whatever is on top, in this case rock and cement. Hundreds of people drowned when the dam failed, and it failed very quickly, like in a few hours.

People can't picture the power of water. You can't imagine water forcing up a cement dam or the rock above. But it can. Hydraulic uplift was not well understood 90 years ago but it is now, and it is scary.


Cahill and Robert Bea, the disaster guy from Berkley, both think water is moving through rocks under the gates, which is rock to the side of the dam itself. The spillway is off to the side. Can hydraulic uplift make the new spillway, which is well bolted into the rock, go up? Maybe not. But if it is starting to move underneath and fissures widen, it could bring down the lake to whatever depth it erodes. I remain very concerned. I wish they would lower the water as much as possible and reduce water pressure on any seepage in the rocks....or into that green spot.
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and water under the new spillway says either they screwed up.. or that whole LEFT embankment is fucked... hf Good post .. thankyou.

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PEOPLE!!!
THIS IS VERY VERY BAD!!!
SOMETHING SERIOUS IS GOING ON AT OROVILLE.
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PIN THIS PINE TREE
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Wow!!!! I've never seen so many blackbirds flying around at the top of the spillway? Why so many birds all of a sudden?
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This is getting kind of spooky.
Nobody knows what the level of Oroville Reservoir is anymore.
I smell something rotten.
Dam failure imminent?
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Count on it.

Within several weeks, the dam will be reduced to a pile of rubble. The Central Valley will be ruined forever.

For some reason they want this dam to fail...Trump needs a distraction?
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GLP... you don't understand how serious this situation is...

To me, it's a very veyr bad sign.
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Body bags being trucked into Sacramento?
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Body bags being trucked into Sacramento?
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Oh yes!
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Body bags being trucked into Sacramento?
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Oh yes!
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Body bags being trucked into Sacramento?
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Oh yes!
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Oh yas yas yas….
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Lost this much water !!
Dam break???
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Bump ... whats the deal with the snow pack in the area as of recent? Writing on the wall?
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Bump ... whats the deal with the snow pack in the area as of recent? Writing on the wall?
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The snow pack all around the reservoir is at about 160% of normal!May is when the snow really starts to melt!!!
Supposed to be an inch of rain on Monday too.
Oroville will be up to 890 feet by next weekend if they do not open spillway.
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GLP... you don't understand how serious this situation is...

To me, it's a very veyr bad sign.
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I do understand.
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Mankind is on the march toward a new and unrevealed planetary destiny.


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AMEN.


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Rejoice, for the world of ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY approaches, and decisions will be made according to the purity of your motives, for the eye of the Divine is an all-seeing eye, capable of glimpsing every flutter of the soul, knowing every yearning of your being and – incredible though it may seem – supporting every aspect of your own DIVINE PLAN.


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What is the lake level now? Why does that website say it is only at 11%?
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Bump ... whats the deal with the snow pack in the area as of recent? Writing on the wall?
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The snow pack all around the reservoir is at about 160% of normal!May is when the snow really starts to melt!!!
Supposed to be an inch of rain on Monday too.
Oroville will be up to 890 feet by next weekend if they do not open spillway.
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Well, for all practical purposes, I hope they don't open the spillway. I'm hoping they'll let the water top the dam and I hope water shoots out of the green spots like water cannons.

It's high time this shit show ends already.

What say you?
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Word of the street is that Oroville Dam is about to fail.
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that is possible because they didn't fix the REAL problems... and the left embankment as you view the dam from the front has really serious internal problems.. plus there is that leaking water thru the other embankment proven by that green grass.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Jack in VA has been showing what appears to be water underneath the new spillway. That rock in that area is not good bedrock.

If you read about the St Francis Dam failure in 1928, it was a big cement dam, but they didn't know about the faults in the rock to the sides. There had been ancient landslides and the rock was not solid as it appeared. First time they filled it, water began to move through the rock on the sides, the abutments where the cement was hooked in, and it created hydraulic uplift. That is, in more simple terms, water pressure lifting up whatever is on top, in this case rock and cement. Hundreds of people drowned when the dam failed, and it failed very quickly, like in a few hours.

People can't picture the power of water. You can't imagine water forcing up a cement dam or the rock above. But it can. Hydraulic uplift was not well understood 90 years ago but it is now, and it is scary.


Cahill and Robert Bea, the disaster guy from Berkley, both think water is moving through rocks under the gates, which is rock to the side of the dam itself. The spillway is off to the side. Can hydraulic uplift make the new spillway, which is well bolted into the rock, go up? Maybe not. But if it is starting to move underneath and fissures widen, it could bring down the lake to whatever depth it erodes. I remain very concerned. I wish they would lower the water as much as possible and reduce water pressure on any seepage in the rocks....or into that green spot.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


and water under the new spillway says either they screwed up.. or that whole LEFT embankment is fucked... hf Good post .. thankyou.
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Thank you!

Here's the thing. If if was just GLP posting, with AC comments, well, you could take it all with a grain of salt. Maybe a whole saltshaker. But it would just be GLP woo woo.

But that isn't what this is. We have Scott Cahill, who has done government classes for dam safety for years, and spent his life doing dam safety (his wife too), saying it isn't safe.

We have Robert Bea whose expertise is in catastrophic failures- like the space shuttle- saying that green spot is not normal seepage but cause for serious concern. Then we have his buddy Tony Johnson and the detailed analysis of cracks in the gates and other problems.

This isn't GLP AC woo woo from my uncle.

This is scary stuff when you think of Central Valley, the greatest agricultural region in the world. Not to mention all the dead people we are potentially looking at.

I read somewhere last year that they were grouting up by the gates. Can't remember where. I think it was a comment by someone who lives near there. That's normal- earth dams seep and get voids and you grout them like a dentist filling a cavity. By the gates would be rock voids. I figured they filled the voids under the gates and old spillway during the last two years. I mean, they would have to fill any voids, how dumb can they be? They can't be that dumb :) So now it is leaking again, and badly, in the place where it was supposedly grouted?

I hope that thing holds up by the undeserved mercy of God.
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Oh yes!
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Oh yas yas yas….
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how mean :(
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God you fucking tards are desperate for doom. Nothing will happen to the spillway. It will survive, and whomever spreading that bullshit about body bags is a fucking faggot.

You all need go get fucking lives, and stop hoping for a disaster. Because one day it will be at your door, and god knows you'll be squealing like a bunch of little bitches.
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that is possible because they didn't fix the REAL problems... and the left embankment as you view the dam from the front has really serious internal problems.. plus there is that leaking water thru the other embankment proven by that green grass.
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Jack in VA has been showing what appears to be water underneath the new spillway. That rock in that area is not good bedrock.

If you read about the St Francis Dam failure in 1928, it was a big cement dam, but they didn't know about the faults in the rock to the sides. There had been ancient landslides and the rock was not solid as it appeared. First time they filled it, water began to move through the rock on the sides, the abutments where the cement was hooked in, and it created hydraulic uplift. That is, in more simple terms, water pressure lifting up whatever is on top, in this case rock and cement. Hundreds of people drowned when the dam failed, and it failed very quickly, like in a few hours.

People can't picture the power of water. You can't imagine water forcing up a cement dam or the rock above. But it can. Hydraulic uplift was not well understood 90 years ago but it is now, and it is scary.


Cahill and Robert Bea, the disaster guy from Berkley, both think water is moving through rocks under the gates, which is rock to the side of the dam itself. The spillway is off to the side. Can hydraulic uplift make the new spillway, which is well bolted into the rock, go up? Maybe not. But if it is starting to move underneath and fissures widen, it could bring down the lake to whatever depth it erodes. I remain very concerned. I wish they would lower the water as much as possible and reduce water pressure on any seepage in the rocks....or into that green spot.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


and water under the new spillway says either they screwed up.. or that whole LEFT embankment is fucked... hf Good post .. thankyou.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Thank you!

Here's the thing. If if was just GLP posting, with AC comments, well, you could take it all with a grain of salt. Maybe a whole saltshaker. But it would just be GLP woo woo.

But that isn't what this is. We have Scott Cahill, who has done government classes for dam safety for years, and spent his life doing dam safety (his wife too), saying it isn't safe.

We have Robert Bea whose expertise is in catastrophic failures- like the space shuttle- saying that green spot is not normal seepage but cause for serious concern. Then we have his buddy Tony Johnson and the detailed analysis of cracks in the gates and other problems.

This isn't GLP AC woo woo from my uncle.

This is scary stuff when you think of Central Valley, the greatest agricultural region in the world. Not to mention all the dead people we are potentially looking at.

I read somewhere last year that they were grouting up by the gates. Can't remember where. I think it was a comment by someone who lives near there. That's normal- earth dams seep and get voids and you grout them like a dentist filling a cavity. By the gates would be rock voids. I figured they filled the voids under the gates and old spillway during the last two years. I mean, they would have to fill any voids, how dumb can they be? They can't be that dumb :) So now it is leaking again, and badly, in the place where it was supposedly grouted?

I hope that thing holds up by the undeserved mercy of God.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


There's a lot of people hoping this dam will collapse into a pile of rubble.

The Central Valley will be ruined forever.

It makes one wonder how much power is left in the GLP Effect.
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Glp effect has historically been opposite of what the doom we have forecast.
A lot of professionals have stated there are very serious
Problems with this dam ( I think the problems will come to light with the lawsuit coming up.
Do not wish for doom! just worried about the structure and snowpack,
If we keep the people informed; lives my be saved .
And early potential problems fixed before they became serious.
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I KINDA AM AT A LOSS HERE......


GEO MAG!
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SOMETHING WEIRD HAPPENED AT 3 TO 4 PM YESTERDAY!

THE NUMBERS ARE ALL FUCKED UP AND THERE IS AN 'N' IN BLUE BY THE NEW NUMBERS THAT ARE LIKE 534 AND SHIT!!!
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HEY MAN..THIS IS FUCKIN WEIRD..THEY HAVE CAPACITY DATA THAT SAYS IT LOST 2.5 MILLION GALLONS OF ACRE FEET ....STF IS GOING ON?

IS IT SHOWING THE DATA EARLY FOR A BREACH?

FUCKING WEIRD!!!
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N = Error in Data
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