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Dam will fail.
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THERE SHOULD BE A PIN DRIVE TO ALERT PEOPLE....AGAIN..!
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BLESS U OLD SKOOL MODS..I GUESS..?
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9 PM 'DATA' 534.77 NO 'N'...THIS TIME...WTF?
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535.68 NOW WHATEVER THE FUCK THAT MEANS....IT IS GOING UP
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WE NEED EYES ON THE GROUND THERE NOW!
LOOKING FOR THE
GREEN WET SPOTS....
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535.82...NEW MYSTERY FUCKIN NUMBERS THAT STILL GO UP AS OF 7 PM...WTF..HAS ANYONE CALLED THEM?...
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N = Error in Data
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
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that is possible because they didn't fix the REAL problems... and the left embankment as you view the dam from the front has really serious internal problems.. plus there is that leaking water thru the other embankment proven by that green grass.
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Jack in VA has been showing what appears to be water underneath the new spillway. That rock in that area is not good bedrock.

If you read about the St Francis Dam failure in 1928, it was a big cement dam, but they didn't know about the faults in the rock to the sides. There had been ancient landslides and the rock was not solid as it appeared. First time they filled it, water began to move through the rock on the sides, the abutments where the cement was hooked in, and it created hydraulic uplift. That is, in more simple terms, water pressure lifting up whatever is on top, in this case rock and cement. Hundreds of people drowned when the dam failed, and it failed very quickly, like in a few hours.

People can't picture the power of water. You can't imagine water forcing up a cement dam or the rock above. But it can. Hydraulic uplift was not well understood 90 years ago but it is now, and it is scary.


Cahill and Robert Bea, the disaster guy from Berkley, both think water is moving through rocks under the gates, which is rock to the side of the dam itself. The spillway is off to the side. Can hydraulic uplift make the new spillway, which is well bolted into the rock, go up? Maybe not. But if it is starting to move underneath and fissures widen, it could bring down the lake to whatever depth it erodes. I remain very concerned. I wish they would lower the water as much as possible and reduce water pressure on any seepage in the rocks....or into that green spot.
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and water under the new spillway says either they screwed up.. or that whole LEFT embankment is fucked... hf Good post .. thankyou.
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Thank you!

Here's the thing. If if was just GLP posting, with AC comments, well, you could take it all with a grain of salt. Maybe a whole saltshaker. But it would just be GLP woo woo.

But that isn't what this is. We have Scott Cahill, who has done government classes for dam safety for years, and spent his life doing dam safety (his wife too), saying it isn't safe.

We have Robert Bea whose expertise is in catastrophic failures- like the space shuttle- saying that green spot is not normal seepage but cause for serious concern. Then we have his buddy Tony Johnson and the detailed analysis of cracks in the gates and other problems.

This isn't GLP AC woo woo from my uncle.

This is scary stuff when you think of Central Valley, the greatest agricultural region in the world. Not to mention all the dead people we are potentially looking at.

I read somewhere last year that they were grouting up by the gates. Can't remember where. I think it was a comment by someone who lives near there. That's normal- earth dams seep and get voids and you grout them like a dentist filling a cavity. By the gates would be rock voids. I figured they filled the voids under the gates and old spillway during the last two years. I mean, they would have to fill any voids, how dumb can they be? They can't be that dumb :) So now it is leaking again, and badly, in the place where it was supposedly grouted?

I hope that thing holds up by the undeserved mercy of God.
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Although I am not an expert.. I was married to a Bureau of Reclamations civil engineer and I learned a bunch from that. Some of it lost due to time of course. I was able to visit as much as I wanted at the research labs there... where they had mockups of every one of the dams they built.

One interesting experience during my marriage is he went to a dam being built in Texas.. I would have to look up the name and the town nearby we lived in for a time.. But any way for a long summer I got to watch an earthen dam being built.. the daily layering anyway of the dirt.

We saw the collapsed Teton Dam a few weeks after that happened... We were on the way to visit relatives and had opportunity to view it along the way. It collapsed while he was working for the Bureau. Dams continue to fascinate me and I paid a lot of attention to Oroville.

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Jack in VA has been showing what appears to be water underneath the new spillway. That rock in that area is not good bedrock.

If you read about the St Francis Dam failure in 1928, it was a big cement dam, but they didn't know about the faults in the rock to the sides. There had been ancient landslides and the rock was not solid as it appeared. First time they filled it, water began to move through the rock on the sides, the abutments where the cement was hooked in, and it created hydraulic uplift. That is, in more simple terms, water pressure lifting up whatever is on top, in this case rock and cement. Hundreds of people drowned when the dam failed, and it failed very quickly, like in a few hours.

People can't picture the power of water. You can't imagine water forcing up a cement dam or the rock above. But it can. Hydraulic uplift was not well understood 90 years ago but it is now, and it is scary.


Cahill and Robert Bea, the disaster guy from Berkley, both think water is moving through rocks under the gates, which is rock to the side of the dam itself. The spillway is off to the side. Can hydraulic uplift make the new spillway, which is well bolted into the rock, go up? Maybe not. But if it is starting to move underneath and fissures widen, it could bring down the lake to whatever depth it erodes. I remain very concerned. I wish they would lower the water as much as possible and reduce water pressure on any seepage in the rocks....or into that green spot.
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and water under the new spillway says either they screwed up.. or that whole LEFT embankment is fucked... hf Good post .. thankyou.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Thank you!

Here's the thing. If if was just GLP posting, with AC comments, well, you could take it all with a grain of salt. Maybe a whole saltshaker. But it would just be GLP woo woo.

But that isn't what this is. We have Scott Cahill, who has done government classes for dam safety for years, and spent his life doing dam safety (his wife too), saying it isn't safe.

We have Robert Bea whose expertise is in catastrophic failures- like the space shuttle- saying that green spot is not normal seepage but cause for serious concern. Then we have his buddy Tony Johnson and the detailed analysis of cracks in the gates and other problems.

This isn't GLP AC woo woo from my uncle.

This is scary stuff when you think of Central Valley, the greatest agricultural region in the world. Not to mention all the dead people we are potentially looking at.

I read somewhere last year that they were grouting up by the gates. Can't remember where. I think it was a comment by someone who lives near there. That's normal- earth dams seep and get voids and you grout them like a dentist filling a cavity. By the gates would be rock voids. I figured they filled the voids under the gates and old spillway during the last two years. I mean, they would have to fill any voids, how dumb can they be? They can't be that dumb :) So now it is leaking again, and badly, in the place where it was supposedly grouted?

I hope that thing holds up by the undeserved mercy of God.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


Although I am not an expert.. I was married to a Bureau of Reclamations civil engineer and I learned a bunch from that. Some of it lost due to time of course. I was able to visit as much as I wanted at the research labs there... where they had mockups of every one of the dams they built.

One interesting experience during my marriage is he went to a dam being built in Texas.. I would have to look up the name and the town nearby we lived in for a time.. But any way for a long summer I got to watch an earthen dam being built.. the daily layering anyway of the dirt.

We saw the collapsed Teton Dam a few weeks after that happened... We were on the way to visit relatives and had opportunity to view it along the way. It collapsed while he was working for the Bureau. Dams continue to fascinate me and I paid a lot of attention to Oroville.
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LOTS O FHUCKY SHIT GOIN ON..WHERE R THE EXPERTS SAYIN ITS JUST FINE NOW...!
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GLP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wake the F%$dge up!!!!!


Last weekend the DWR said they were going to take the new spillway up to 60,000 cfs but they only took it up to 25,000 cfs and then quickly shut down the spillway.
Then within a week the official data for Orovile is now all wrong. The lake is rising and 2 days ago it was 860 feet. It should be at 866 feet or more today because the spillway is closed.

By next weekend the Oroville reservior will be 880 feet if they do not open the spillway and the Oroville Dam will flow over the top by the end of April or the first week in May.

IMHO, they discovered a design flaw in the spillway when they water rate was at 25,000 cfs.... and the spillways must have started to vibrate.

A vibrating spillway will collapse.


Here is the big question... when do they start evacuations of the millions of people living in the valley below Oroville Dam?

The greatest catastrophe in the history of the USA could very well be happening in a few weeks.... while GLP watches the Game of Thrones and Americans pick their noses and read texts from Kim Kardashian.
Oh brother.
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You are right. I forgot but yes, all the news releases said they were going to greatly increase the cfs.


The snowmelt hasn't even started. Why don't they run it at a low level like 10,000 cfs? I don't understand keeping the lake level so high. Its like 2017 again.


It is like they want it to fail. What am I missing if I am wrong about that?
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NOTHING TO DO. BUT, CHECK THE DHOOM
THE NUMBERS
THE NUM BERS...
THE NUMBERS NOW

NOTHING TO SEE DON TLOOK THIS WAY

OR O VILLE
OR O VILLE

ORO VILLE!
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I have done the math.
There are live Oroville spillway cameras that give full evidence of the water situation on the spillway.
Unless they open the spillway doors and release at least 10,000 cfs down the spillway... water will go over the top of the dam in a few weeks. Once the water goes over the top of the dam it will start eroding the backside of the dam. Then, the dam will fail.
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ops
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Still no “news” reports
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I have done the math.
There are live Oroville spillway cameras that give full evidence of the water situation on the spillway.
Unless they open the spillway doors and release at least 10,000 cfs down the spillway... water will go over the top of the dam in a few weeks. Once the water goes over the top of the dam it will start eroding the backside of the dam. Then, the dam will fail.
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ops
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It will take out the left abutment...viewed as you face the dam possibly before it would go over the top. ... And then there is that leaking on to the dam front itself.. which I accidently in a previous post called the right abutment...
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Still no “news” reports
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..YEAH....FUCKIN SCARY MAN...
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I have done the math.
There are live Oroville spillway cameras that give full evidence of the water situation on the spillway.
Unless they open the spillway doors and release at least 10,000 cfs down the spillway... water will go over the top of the dam in a few weeks. Once the water goes over the top of the dam it will start eroding the backside of the dam. Then, the dam will fail.
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ops
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It will take out the left abutment...viewed as you face the dam possibly before it would go over the top. ... And then there is that leaking on to the dam front itself.. which I accidently in a previous post called the right abutment...
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Do you think a Catastrophic collapse of this dam is a Probability OR a Possibility?
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So it is not collapsing or being collapsed tonight then.

I thought it was a "few" country people and "millions" of rats, like san diego? The country people should leave...quietly without making a fuss...
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I have done the math.
There are live Oroville spillway cameras that give full evidence of the water situation on the spillway.
Unless they open the spillway doors and release at least 10,000 cfs down the spillway... water will go over the top of the dam in a few weeks. Once the water goes over the top of the dam it will start eroding the backside of the dam. Then, the dam will fail.
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ops
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It will take out the left abutment...viewed as you face the dam possibly before it would go over the top. ... And then there is that leaking on to the dam front itself.. which I accidently in a previous post called the right abutment...
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Do you think a Catastrophic collapse of this dam is a Probability OR a Possibility?
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BOTH...IT CAN ALSO GO VIA THE OVER THE TOP...SNOW MELT...OR JUST A BREACH PRIOR TO OVERTOPPING...THOSE GATES ALSO BAD FOR THE ENTIRE DAMMED DAM AS WELL....LOTS O PROBS HERE...
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Still no “news” reports
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..YEAH....FUCKIN SCARY MAN...
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look_down CAP'N, I BET YOU'RE ABOUT READY TO WHIP IT OUT AND GIVE IT A TUG BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GET OFF ON THIS SHIT!

DO YOU THINK A COLLAPSE OF THIS PHUKER IS IMMINENT?
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FANTASY-LAND....VIDEO OF A NOW SHUT DOWN SPILLWAY. IT'S BEEN A WEEK SINCE THIS...PROPAGANDA.
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Dam will fail.
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thats what Grumpier said ages ago.
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APRIL 11 Water level was at 859.50

I fear what might be to come...

[link to oroville.lakesonline.com]
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ops
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It will take out the left abutment...viewed as you face the dam possibly before it would go over the top. ... And then there is that leaking on to the dam front itself.. which I accidently in a previous post called the right abutment...
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Do you think a Catastrophic collapse of this dam is a Probability OR a Possibility?
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BOTH...IT CAN ALSO GO VIA THE OVER THE TOP...SNOW MELT...OR JUST A BREACH PRIOR TO OVERTOPPING...THOSE GATES ALSO BAD FOR THE ENTIRE DAMMED DAM AS WELL....LOTS O PROBS HERE...
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misdoubt CAP'N, WHAT ABOUT THOSE GREEN SPOTS? CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WATER SHOOT OUT OF THOSE LIKE WATER CANNONS! DO YOU SEE THAT AS A POSSIBILITY?
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Still no “news” reports
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..YEAH....FUCKIN SCARY MAN...
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look_down CAP'N, I BET YOU'RE ABOUT READY TO WHIP IT OUT AND GIVE IT A TUG BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GET OFF ON THIS SHIT!

DO YOU THINK A COLLAPSE OF THIS PHUKER IS IMMINENT?
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WE GOTS SNO MELT UH COMIN...SHOON...WE GOTS WEIRD BROKEN DATA AND BROKEN INS-TRA-MENTS....GRAPH ON LINE FOR THE STATE IS SHOWING AN EMPTY DAM FOR TWO FUCKIN DAYS NOW..AT LEAST...

STORM NEXT FEW DAYS...BROKEN NEW SPILLWAY...

ZERO ANNOUNCEMENTS...COMMUNICATIONS FROM 'THE DAM'...

I'VE SAID PAGE 1111 ON THIS THREAD....A HEAT WAVE AND A STORM SYSTEM AND IT IS AT NEAR CAPACITY...SPILLWAY TURNED OFF...THE THING HAS NOT HELD THAT MUCH PRESSURE SINCE IT WAS WEAKENED..BACK THEN...WET SPOT GETS MORE PRESSURE TOO...

SHIT....THIS THINGS READY TO SQUIRT THE WAY THEY R RUNNIN IT INTO THE GROUND....SON.
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I have done the math.
There are live Oroville spillway cameras that give full evidence of the water situation on the spillway.
Unless they open the spillway doors and release at least 10,000 cfs down the spillway... water will go over the top of the dam in a few weeks. Once the water goes over the top of the dam it will start eroding the backside of the dam. Then, the dam will fail.
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ops
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


It will take out the left abutment...viewed as you face the dam possibly before it would go over the top. ... And then there is that leaking on to the dam front itself.. which I accidently in a previous post called the right abutment...
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Do you think a Catastrophic collapse of this dam is a Probability OR a Possibility?
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Probability... it will .. it just depends on the conditions as to the when. Back then I got my hands on some of the construction and got some interesting advice on the rock structure on that side between the spillway and the dam... and was told actual abutment area was not "tight" so to speak. California is shifting of course and somewhere around that time of the spillway failure etc there was also a small quake that rattled some of that area.

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Mankind is on the march toward a new and unrevealed planetary destiny.


"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.


Wisdom is not given, it is earned, and experience is the bestower.

Rejoice, for the world of ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY approaches, and decisions will be made according to the purity of your motives, for the eye of the Divine is an all-seeing eye, capable of glimpsing every flutter of the soul, knowing every yearning of your being and – incredible though it may seem – supporting every aspect of your own DIVINE PLAN.


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APRIL 11 Water level was at 859.50

I fear what might be to come...

[link to oroville.lakesonline.com]
 Quoting: WorldofMadness


the graph is most interesting...
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"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
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83% full on April 11th, to now showing only at 11% full... doesn't make any since at all.

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GLP Warning: holding a doom boner for over 2 years may require medical attention.
Jk but in all seriousness I just have a feeling nothing will happen as far as a full structural failure/ loss of life situation
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APRIL 11 Water level was at 859.50

I fear what might be to come...

[link to oroville.lakesonline.com]
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the graph is most interesting...
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YEP..I'VE SEEN THAT...THE LEVEL IS GOING NO WHERE BUT UP...AND IT IS WAY MORE THAN THE OTHER LINES...FATTER AND HIGHER...!

GOOD EYE!
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83% full on April 11th, to now showing only at 11% full... doesn't make any since at all.
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FUCKIN TWILIGHT ZONE DUDE...!
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Still no “news” reports
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..YEAH....FUCKIN SCARY MAN...
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look_down CAP'N, I BET YOU'RE ABOUT READY TO WHIP IT OUT AND GIVE IT A TUG BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GET OFF ON THIS SHIT!

DO YOU THINK A COLLAPSE OF THIS PHUKER IS IMMINENT?
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WE GOTS SNO MELT UH COMIN...SHOON...WE GOTS WEIRD BROKEN DATA AND BROKEN INS-TRA-MENTS....GRAPH ON LINE FOR THE STATE IS SHOWING AN EMPTY DAM FOR TWO FUCKIN DAYS NOW..AT LEAST...

STORM NEXT FEW DAYS...BROKEN NEW SPILLWAY...

ZERO ANNOUNCEMENTS...COMMUNICATIONS FROM 'THE DAM'...

I'VE SAID PAGE 1111 ON THIS THREAD....A HEAT WAVE AND A STORM SYSTEM AND IT IS AT NEAR CAPACITY...SPILLWAY TURNED OFF...THE THING HAS NOT HELD THAT MUCH PRESSURE SINCE IT WAS WEAKENED..BACK THEN...WET SPOT GETS MORE PRESSURE TOO...

SHIT....THIS THINGS READY TO SQUIRT THE WAY THEY R RUNNIN IT INTO THE GROUND....SON.
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MAN OH MAN, CAP'N...NOW YER SPEAKING MY KIND OF LANGUAGE, BROTHER!!! I'MMORE READY NOW THAN I'VE EVER BEEN!!!

ARE YOU READY? GET READY MY BRROOTTHHEERR!!

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Your reply is worth 5*. Very interesting.


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Jack in VA has been showing what appears to be water underneath the new spillway. That rock in that area is not good bedrock.

If you read about the St Francis Dam failure in 1928, it was a big cement dam, but they didn't know about the faults in the rock to the sides. There had been ancient landslides and the rock was not solid as it appeared. First time they filled it, water began to move through the rock on the sides, the abutments where the cement was hooked in, and it created hydraulic uplift. That is, in more simple terms, water pressure lifting up whatever is on top, in this case rock and cement. Hundreds of people drowned when the dam failed, and it failed very quickly, like in a few hours.

People can't picture the power of water. You can't imagine water forcing up a cement dam or the rock above. But it can. Hydraulic uplift was not well understood 90 years ago but it is now, and it is scary.


Cahill and Robert Bea, the disaster guy from Berkley, both think water is moving through rocks under the gates, which is rock to the side of the dam itself. The spillway is off to the side. Can hydraulic uplift make the new spillway, which is well bolted into the rock, go up? Maybe not. But if it is starting to move underneath and fissures widen, it could bring down the lake to whatever depth it erodes. I remain very concerned. I wish they would lower the water as much as possible and reduce water pressure on any seepage in the rocks....or into that green spot.
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and water under the new spillway says either they screwed up.. or that whole LEFT embankment is fucked... hf Good post .. thankyou.
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Thank you!

Here's the thing. If if was just GLP posting, with AC comments, well, you could take it all with a grain of salt. Maybe a whole saltshaker. But it would just be GLP woo woo.

But that isn't what this is. We have Scott Cahill, who has done government classes for dam safety for years, and spent his life doing dam safety (his wife too), saying it isn't safe.

We have Robert Bea whose expertise is in catastrophic failures- like the space shuttle- saying that green spot is not normal seepage but cause for serious concern. Then we have his buddy Tony Johnson and the detailed analysis of cracks in the gates and other problems.

This isn't GLP AC woo woo from my uncle.

This is scary stuff when you think of Central Valley, the greatest agricultural region in the world. Not to mention all the dead people we are potentially looking at.

I read somewhere last year that they were grouting up by the gates. Can't remember where. I think it was a comment by someone who lives near there. That's normal- earth dams seep and get voids and you grout them like a dentist filling a cavity. By the gates would be rock voids. I figured they filled the voids under the gates and old spillway during the last two years. I mean, they would have to fill any voids, how dumb can they be? They can't be that dumb :) So now it is leaking again, and badly, in the place where it was supposedly grouted?

I hope that thing holds up by the undeserved mercy of God.
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Although I am not an expert.. I was married to a Bureau of Reclamations civil engineer and I learned a bunch from that. Some of it lost due to time of course. I was able to visit as much as I wanted at the research labs there... where they had mockups of every one of the dams they built.

One interesting experience during my marriage is he went to a dam being built in Texas.. I would have to look up the name and the town nearby we lived in for a time.. But any way for a long summer I got to watch an earthen dam being built.. the daily layering anyway of the dirt.

We saw the collapsed Teton Dam a few weeks after that happened... We were on the way to visit relatives and had opportunity to view it along the way. It collapsed while he was working for the Bureau. Dams continue to fascinate me and I paid a lot of attention to Oroville.
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Just Pull It and take out the Bay area with Tsar Bomb. abomb
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well, you can go back and look at the close-up videos
of the spillway working (since it opened) and you can clearly see the
the uniformly oscillating waves that form.