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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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Lake level rose 40 feet in 4 days in 2017. When that snow starts melting, they won't be able to release fast enough
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WATCH THE FORECAST..WATCH THE TEMPS...!
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Temperatures expected to hit upper 80's almost 90 in Oroville next week. Not good.
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

It won't let me post the link to website the pic came from. Link is watermarked on the pic. in the tweet. Worth the read!
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More great stuff from Jack in VA. Dont miss it.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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here is the link to all the pretty new pictures at Jack's Twitter. Leaks and buckling slabs, lovely.

On the plus side DWR let everybody know all is fine and they want to be transparent.
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More great stuff from Jack in VA. Dont miss it.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


here is the link to all the pretty new pictures at Jack's Twitter. Leaks and buckling slabs, lovely.

On the plus side DWR let everybody know all is fine and they want to be transparent.
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You forgot to post the link.

Link up, please! afro
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More great stuff from Jack in VA. Dont miss it.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


here is the link to all the pretty new pictures at Jack's Twitter. Leaks and buckling slabs, lovely.

On the plus side DWR let everybody know all is fine and they want to be transparent.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


You forgot to post the link.

Link up, please! afro
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That is the link. The one to Jack in VA on twitter, in the quoted post.

But its good you waited because he just added more.
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Finally fixed
9,905 16,784 10,053 41.84 13.4
04/15/2019 08:00 536.38 N 381,288 N 7,750 18,402 10,020 41.84 13.4
04/15/2019 09:00 0.00 N BRT N 7,775 20,950 10,026 41.84 13.4
04/15/2019 10:00 860.00 2,944,749 7,970 19,968 10,009 41.84 13.4

[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]

[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
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BUMP THE DATA
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870.AND A HALF JOEY!.....


87% FULL!!!

110 % OF HISTORICAL AVERAGE...!
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870.AND A HALF JOEY!.....


87% FULL!!!

110 % OF HISTORICAL AVERAGE...!
 Quoting: UH 76372983


870..THE PRESSURE FROM B 4...THE BROKEN SPILLWAY..THE ...NEW, BROKEN SPILLWAY...THE BROKEN GATES....UH...
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870.AND A HALF JOEY!.....


87% FULL!!!

110 % OF HISTORICAL AVERAGE...!
 Quoting: UH 76372983


870..THE PRESSURE FROM B 4...THE BROKEN SPILLWAY..THE ...NEW, BROKEN SPILLWAY...THE BROKEN GATES....UH...
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CAP'N Of The CAPS,

I'M NOT FEELING IT TODAY, BROTHER

PLEASE TELL ME THAT YOU SEE SOMETHING REALLY BAD ABOUT THE DAM THAT YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW!

FOR EXAMPLE, ARE YOU SEEING ANY NEW MASSIVE CRACKS? WATER SHOOTING OUT OF THE GREEN SPOTS...TELL ME SOMETHING BAD, MAN!
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OK,..HERE U GO DUDE....OROVILLE IS UNDER A FLOOD WATCH FOR OVER AN HOUR NOW..UNTIL 7PM...IT IS RAIN ING NOW!...AND THE TEMPS ARE GOING UP TO A NSTY 90 AND MORE THRU TUESDAY......!...A RUSH OF INCOMING H 2 O IZ COMING...WATCH IT RIZE ! THEY MAY BE FUCT!
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870.AND A HALF JOEY!.....


87% FULL!!!

110 % OF HISTORICAL AVERAGE...!
 Quoting: UH 76372983


NEW NUMBERS WILL PUT IT OVER A HALF IN 3 MINS OR LESS...PROB BY 7 AFTER......I SAY THAT IT IS CHAOS TIME...EARLY....LOOK AT THIS THING.!..DISASTER...UN-FLOLD SLOWLY ..AS IT DID B 4 ..RIGHT IN FRONT OF U.S. [email protected]
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Lake level rose 40 feet in 4 days in 2017. When that snow starts melting, they won't be able to release fast enough
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WATCH THE FORECAST..WATCH THE TEMPS...!
 Quoting: UH 74785742


Temperatures expected to hit upper 80's almost 90 in Oroville next week. Not good.
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NOW AT LEAST 90....6 PM DATA SHOULD B OUT..
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OK,..HERE U GO DUDE....OROVILLE IS UNDER A FLOOD WATCH FOR OVER AN HOUR NOW..UNTIL 7PM...IT IS RAIN ING NOW!...AND THE TEMPS ARE GOING UP TO A NSTY 90 AND MORE THRU TUESDAY......!...A RUSH OF INCOMING H 2 O IZ COMING...WATCH IT RIZE ! THEY MAY BE FUCT!
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DO YOU SUPPOSE "THEY" WILL ALLOW WATER TO FLOW OVER THE TOP OF THE DAM?

DO YOU SEE AGENDA 21 AT WORK?
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OK,..HERE U GO DUDE....OROVILLE IS UNDER A FLOOD WATCH FOR OVER AN HOUR NOW..UNTIL 7PM...IT IS RAIN ING NOW!...AND THE TEMPS ARE GOING UP TO A NSTY 90 AND MORE THRU TUESDAY......!...A RUSH OF INCOMING H 2 O IZ COMING...WATCH IT RIZE ! THEY MAY BE FUCT!
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DO YOU SUPPOSE "THEY" WILL ALLOW WATER TO FLOW OVER THE TOP OF THE DAM?

DO YOU SEE AGENDA 21 AT WORK?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


870.53...6PM....STUDY THE OUTFLOW ...INFLOW AND RIVER RELEASE EVERY HOUR...NOW..THE DETAILS ARE IN THE DATA...


THIS 'THING' IS SOOO BROKEN IT MAY NOT EVEN NEED TO GO OVER THE TOP TO BLOW..THA IS WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN SAYIN,,.IT IS WEAKENED BY THE LAST OVER TOPPING..TH ENEW SPILLWAY IS FUCKIN BROKEN..IT HAS LEAKS AND WET SPOTS AND BROKEN-WEAKENED GATES...OTHER PROBLEMS...IT CAN GO MORE AND MORE AS MOR H 2 FUCKIN OH! GOES IN EVERY SECOND...AND, IT MAY NOT EVEN 'NEED' THAT....IT IS 'WEAK'''AND THEN SOME!...ANY TIME..ANY FUCKIN TIME NOW...TO MORE AND MORE AS IT GETS FULLER!.....
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OK,..HERE U GO DUDE....OROVILLE IS UNDER A FLOOD WATCH FOR OVER AN HOUR NOW..UNTIL 7PM...IT IS RAIN ING NOW!...AND THE TEMPS ARE GOING UP TO A NSTY 90 AND MORE THRU TUESDAY......!...A RUSH OF INCOMING H 2 O IZ COMING...WATCH IT RIZE ! THEY MAY BE FUCT!
 Quoting: UH 76372983


DO YOU SUPPOSE "THEY" WILL ALLOW WATER TO FLOW OVER THE TOP OF THE DAM?

DO YOU SEE AGENDA 21 AT WORK?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


870.53...6PM....STUDY THE OUTFLOW ...INFLOW AND RIVER RELEASE EVERY HOUR...NOW..THE DETAILS ARE IN THE DATA...


THIS 'THING' IS SOOO BROKEN IT MAY NOT EVEN NEED TO GO OVER THE TOP TO BLOW..THA IS WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN SAYIN,,.IT IS WEAKENED BY THE LAST OVER TOPPING..TH ENEW SPILLWAY IS FUCKIN BROKEN..IT HAS LEAKS AND WET SPOTS AND BROKEN-WEAKENED GATES...OTHER PROBLEMS...IT CAN GO MORE AND MORE AS MOR H 2 FUCKIN OH! GOES IN EVERY SECOND...AND, IT MAY NOT EVEN 'NEED' THAT....IT IS 'WEAK'''AND THEN SOME!...ANY TIME..ANY FUCKIN TIME NOW...TO MORE AND MORE AS IT GETS FULLER!.....
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THANKS CAP'N! YOU ALWAYS MAKE ME FEEL BETTER WHEN I'M FEELING DOWN. 5a

I SUPPOSE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF ASSHOLES BURNING IN HELL FOR CAUSING THIS MESS. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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Professor Robert Bea:

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A UC Berkeley Engineering professor emeritus, one of the nation’s foremost forensic engineers, and the founder of Berkeley’s Center for Catastrophic Risk Management (CCRM)

Bea: Yes, it is possible. And it would be worse than any of them. A breach at Oroville would send a wall of water down the Feather River, through the Sacramento Valley and ultimately into the Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta. It would destroy towns along the Feather and Sacramento Rivers, flood major portions of Sacramento, and blow out levees throughout the Delta, permanently flooding much of the region. The huge government pumps near Tracy that send water to Southern California cities and farms would be incapacitated. There would be tremendous loss of life and property, and it would be years before a permanent water delivery system to the south state could be reestablished.

Furthermore, it wouldn’t necessarily take a tremendous amount of rain and uncontrolled releases as we saw in February to trigger such a failure. It could happen on a bright, sunny summer’s day. The situation is that serious.
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Professor Robert Bea:

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A UC Berkeley Engineering professor emeritus, one of the nation’s foremost forensic engineers, and the founder of Berkeley’s Center for Catastrophic Risk Management (CCRM)

Bea: Yes, it is possible. And it would be worse than any of them. A breach at Oroville would send a wall of water down the Feather River, through the Sacramento Valley and ultimately into the Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta. It would destroy towns along the Feather and Sacramento Rivers, flood major portions of Sacramento, and blow out levees throughout the Delta, permanently flooding much of the region. The huge government pumps near Tracy that send water to Southern California cities and farms would be incapacitated. There would be tremendous loss of life and property, and it would be years before a permanent water delivery system to the south state could be reestablished.

Furthermore, it wouldn’t necessarily take a tremendous amount of rain and uncontrolled releases as we saw in February to trigger such a failure. It could happen on a bright, sunny summer’s day. The situation is that serious.
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Not to mention the fact that the Central Valley would be destroyed forever. uhoh
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Maybe there was nothing wrong with the old spillway except that the ground under it was giving out.

The new spillway sits on the same ground so it too will collapse just like the first one.

Maybe.
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I am shocked at the pictures of slabs failing already. Do citizens of california even know how much money is being obviously wasted ? Do they care?

It might not happen tommorow but this dam is not in great shape and I would not be surprised to here when it does pop
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I am shocked at the pictures of slabs failing already. Do citizens of california even know how much money is being obviously wasted ? Do they care?

It might not happen tommorow but this dam is not in great shape and I would not be surprised to here when it does pop
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They spent almost Two Billion Dollars...and for what?

The Fkn thing is still broken as hell. Hydro pressure from underneath the spillway are lifting the slabs.

There's no doubt in my mind that the whole shit is going to collapse into a huge pile of shit and it will be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
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Professor Robert Bea:

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A UC Berkeley Engineering professor emeritus, one of the nation’s foremost forensic engineers, and the founder of Berkeley’s Center for Catastrophic Risk Management (CCRM)

Bea: Yes, it is possible. And it would be worse than any of them. A breach at Oroville would send a wall of water down the Feather River, through the Sacramento Valley and ultimately into the Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta. It would destroy towns along the Feather and Sacramento Rivers, flood major portions of Sacramento, and blow out levees throughout the Delta, permanently flooding much of the region. The huge government pumps near Tracy that send water to Southern California cities and farms would be incapacitated. There would be tremendous loss of life and property, and it would be years before a permanent water delivery system to the south state could be reestablished.

Furthermore, it wouldn’t necessarily take a tremendous amount of rain and uncontrolled releases as we saw in February to trigger such a failure. It could happen on a bright, sunny summer’s day. The situation is that serious.
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Not to mention the fact that the Central Valley would be destroyed forever. uhoh
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CA will go tits up and take the whole US economy with it.

Like the last close call in Hawaii it will look like an act of God.
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Professor Robert Bea:

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A UC Berkeley Engineering professor emeritus, one of the nation’s foremost forensic engineers, and the founder of Berkeley’s Center for Catastrophic Risk Management (CCRM)

Bea: Yes, it is possible. And it would be worse than any of them. A breach at Oroville would send a wall of water down the Feather River, through the Sacramento Valley and ultimately into the Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta. It would destroy towns along the Feather and Sacramento Rivers, flood major portions of Sacramento, and blow out levees throughout the Delta, permanently flooding much of the region. The huge government pumps near Tracy that send water to Southern California cities and farms would be incapacitated. There would be tremendous loss of life and property, and it would be years before a permanent water delivery system to the south state could be reestablished.

Furthermore, it wouldn’t necessarily take a tremendous amount of rain and uncontrolled releases as we saw in February to trigger such a failure. It could happen on a bright, sunny summer’s day. The situation is that serious.
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Not to mention the fact that the Central Valley would be destroyed forever. uhoh
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CA will go tits up and take the whole US economy with it.

Like the last close call in Hawaii it will look like an act of God.
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You are right as rain!

They need this dam to blow in order to blame it for the most severe economic Depression this nation has ever seen.

Call me crazy...but if you've been following this mess as closely as I have, you will know that they've been setting this dam up to fail.

Do you think I'm crazy? ratdance
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I am shocked at the pictures of slabs failing already. Do citizens of california even know how much money is being obviously wasted ? Do they care?

It might not happen tommorow but this dam is not in great shape and I would not be surprised to here when it does pop
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They spent almost Two Billion Dollars...and for what?

The Fkn thing is still broken as hell. Hydro pressure from underneath the spillway are lifting the slabs.

There's no doubt in my mind that the whole shit is going to collapse into a huge pile of shit and it will be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
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I'm sure they put extra large drains under it this time.

But what if these larger drains just let more water flow out of the hillside and under the spillway?
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I am shocked at the pictures of slabs failing already. Do citizens of california even know how much money is being obviously wasted ? Do they care?

It might not happen tommorow but this dam is not in great shape and I would not be surprised to here when it does pop
 Quoting: panther0621


They spent almost Two Billion Dollars...and for what?

The Fkn thing is still broken as hell. Hydro pressure from underneath the spillway are lifting the slabs.

There's no doubt in my mind that the whole shit is going to collapse into a huge pile of shit and it will be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
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I'm sure they put extra large drains under it this time.

But what if these larger drains just let more water flow out of the hillside and under the spillway?
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If you remember correctly, they opened up the spillway a couple of weeks ago. They had to shut it down right away because the slabs were lifting and buckling. The pressure from underneath the slabs were lifting the slabs.
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so what is gonna happen if it busts wide open? how many people will it affect? i live near a dam in tn, its the old hickory dam, it will flood nashville it it ever fails cause it releases its water to the cumberland river.
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i think juan reads this thread
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Good video. It is really a shame in how little people understand about water management in the western USA.

Too bad the vid ends on a sour note. He implies that disinformation is destroying the nation. Liberals have the solution to that problem, but of course they would destroy the nation with their demented view of what is really truth. Unfretted freedom of speech is still the best route in maintaining the availability of truth.
History is lies agreed upon--Nappy
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I think this is the guy bothering him.

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Whack a doodle news......LOL.
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oroblanko miss spoke, his sugar coating opinion that a lot of the snow pack has already melted and it will continue over time, snow report the other day said only 5% of the snow has melted so far. Playing down the situation helps no one. The snow pack remains at 150-165 percent of normal.