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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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There's a silver lining in every cloud and I suppose if the dam fails the california state legislature would go and silicon valley too.

Always gotta look on the bright side.
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Along with the US economy
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Or are the gates actually operational and they want it to go?
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No. The gates have been leaking for years. We just never knew.

Now we also know about serious ELF issues too.
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Who cares if it leaks when we need it to flow.
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AH ... but in it's infinite wisdom DWR now says they won't open the Main Spillway Gates UNTIL the lake hits 899'!!


When the lake is hitting 899' EVERYBODY in Oroville should be on the road getting to higher ground (imo)!!
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So the official word (regardless of truthness) is there's no problem with the gates, they're just waiting?

Are they doing a three card monty with their PR now?
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Minimal rain all day but about 10 minutes ago the sky opened up with heavy rain, the kind you can hear hitting your roof!

An hour south of oroville
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Or are the gates actually operational and they want it to go?
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No. The gates have been leaking for years. We just never knew.

Now we also know about serious ELF issues too.
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Who cares if it leaks when we need it to flow.
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AH ... but in it's infinite wisdom DWR now says they won't open the Main Spillway Gates UNTIL the lake hits 899'!!


When the lake is hitting 899' EVERYBODY in Oroville should be on the road getting to higher ground (imo)!!
 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


100% agree... except for now they are saying not until 900 feet...
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Manlifts at the gates for several days now, porta potty on the spillway, massive storm bearing down lake almost full, and they are still not releasing. It's pretty evident to most that there is a serious issue with the gates...
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So once the gates are fixed everything back to normal?
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Do you really think that they can get the gates fixed after 50 years of neglect, especially with all that pressure behind them before the inflows jump from the storms? Then, there are the issues with the main spillway and the cavitation damage.
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You mean the gates won't open right now? Can't they blow up a couple of the gates to keep whole dam from going down?
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They would have to close them before intake gets too low and cuts away the gate structure.
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No. The gates have been leaking for years. We just never knew.

Now we also know about serious ELF issues too.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Who cares if it leaks when we need it to flow.
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AH ... but in it's infinite wisdom DWR now says they won't open the Main Spillway Gates UNTIL the lake hits 899'!!


When the lake is hitting 899' EVERYBODY in Oroville should be on the road getting to higher ground (imo)!!
 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


100% agree... except for now they are saying not until 900 feet...
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"Currently the DWR is using the Hyatt Powerplant to keep the lake levels even. At this point, there is no intention of using the spillway unless something causes the lake levels to go over the 900-foot mark. Mellon said factors out of their control, like Mother Nature, play a huge roll."
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There's a silver lining in every cloud and I suppose if the dam fails the california state legislature would go and silicon valley too.

Always gotta look on the bright side.
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Along with the US economy
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For in one hour so great riches is come to nought


Oh well.
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JMHO! This show is over for the year They paved the road to the SW boat ramp and that's a clue that its all probably good.
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JMHO! This show is over for the year They paved the road to the SW boat ramp and that's a clue that its all probably good.
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You funny....

I’m going to hope you never need to think.
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Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed
Here is tropical tidbits, total precipitation to the end of May.

[link to www.tropicaltidbits.com (secure)]

If you move your cursor over the map, Lake Oroville GPS coordinates are 39.56/121.45. Its a little black spot on the map....is that supposed to be a boat, or fish? Anyway, you can't miss it.

The watershed is north and east. Look at that blotch. Looks like in the 6-8 inch range.
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JMHO! This show is over for the year They paved the road to the SW boat ramp and that's a clue that its all probably good.
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LMFAO....

That just means that they get to do it again next year...
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1.7 inch of rain in the Bay Area today! That’s heading up the hill to oroville as we speak.
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Here is tropical tidbits, total precipitation to the end of May.

[link to www.tropicaltidbits.com (secure)]

If you move your cursor over the map, Lake Oroville GPS coordinates are 39.56/121.45. Its a little black spot on the map....is that supposed to be a boat, or fish? Anyway, you can't miss it.

The watershed is north and east. Look at that blotch. Looks like in the 6-8 inch range.
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Here is tropical tidbits, total precipitation to the end of May.

[link to www.tropicaltidbits.com (secure)]

If you move your cursor over the map, Lake Oroville GPS coordinates are 39.56/121.45. Its a little black spot on the map....is that supposed to be a boat, or fish? Anyway, you can't miss it.

The watershed is north and east. Look at that blotch. Looks like in the 6-8 inch range.
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edit...this is the watershed.

[link to hydra.ucdavis.edu]

Not all of it is in that heavy amount. Maybe half? Maybe we will scrape by with less than 3 inches???
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Based on the radar, heavy rain is moving into the Watershed as we speak.
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Based on the radar, heavy rain is moving into the Watershed as we speak.
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Yep it’s coming
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Based on the radar, heavy rain is moving into the Watershed as we speak.
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What do you think, Geo? Will they squeak by again??
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Based on the radar, heavy rain is moving into the Watershed as we speak.
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Yes, it is.
What the Hell?...
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There's a silver lining in every cloud and I suppose if the dam fails the california state legislature would go and silicon valley too.

Always gotta look on the bright side.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75058346


Along with the US economy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73565502


For in one hour so great riches is come to nought


Oh well.
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Most of the people that would be harmed are conservative farmers and ranchers.
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Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed
Two years ago we watched water coming down the MS for a whole week before it crested over the ES.

I don't know what to think now.
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Based on the radar, heavy rain is moving into the Watershed as we speak.
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Yes, it is.
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Good luck, Crunch!
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No. The gates have been leaking for years. We just never knew.

Now we also know about serious ELF issues too.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Who cares if it leaks when we need it to flow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77649299


AH ... but in it's infinite wisdom DWR now says they won't open the Main Spillway Gates UNTIL the lake hits 899'!!


When the lake is hitting 899' EVERYBODY in Oroville should be on the road getting to higher ground (imo)!!
 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


100% agree... except for now they are saying not until 900 feet...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77563121


Kinda suggests that the MS is now a de facto ES. Interesting times we live in.
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Water Officials Quell Rumors Of Oroville Dam Spillway Problems

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Here is tropical tidbits, total precipitation to the end of May.

[link to www.tropicaltidbits.com (secure)]

If you move your cursor over the map, Lake Oroville GPS coordinates are 39.56/121.45. Its a little black spot on the map....is that supposed to be a boat, or fish? Anyway, you can't miss it.

The watershed is north and east. Look at that blotch. Looks like in the 6-8 inch range.
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bump
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RAIN LOOP

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They are boring holes next to the new blacktop road. I remember that this area was deeply excavated during the repair process. I believe they repaired the dam to weir junction at a deep level.
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Now they are digging in the rain on the dam weir interface closer to the dam.
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Who cares if it leaks when we need it to flow.
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AH ... but in it's infinite wisdom DWR now says they won't open the Main Spillway Gates UNTIL the lake hits 899'!!


When the lake is hitting 899' EVERYBODY in Oroville should be on the road getting to higher ground (imo)!!
 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


100% agree... except for now they are saying not until 900 feet...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77563121


Kinda suggests that the MS is now a de facto ES. Interesting times we live in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32975363


EARLIER TODAY DWR SAID THAT THEY DON'T PLAN ON USING THE MAIN SPILLWAY THIS YEAR!
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Holy Schnikes. If this can happen in Texas, it sure the hell can happen here right now. This needs to be discussed with all posters

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Water Officials Quell Rumors Of Oroville Dam Spillway Problems


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Does anyone know where the information is to verify what she said about the lake staying at 900 for a month in 2011? I've only found info back to 2016

And it sounds like a lot more Oroville people were aware and making noise than we knew.
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Based on the radar, heavy rain is moving into the Watershed as we speak.
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What do you think, Geo? Will they squeak by again??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77410359


Possibly.