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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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someone already posted the link.. double info
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Out flows continue to drop. Now 17K CFS, down from 21,928 at 7am.
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OUTflows why would they restrict outflow more, dont they need to let it mo faster?

ORIVILLE DAM := largescale model of FARTING THROUGH A STRAW
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Does anyone know definitively what is being done with this auger seen here?:

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
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Drilling holes in the base of a full earthern dam, in a storm, what could go wrong??
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Is it a drill rig! if theyre drilling 1.5 holes, thats for blasting Dolls..
if its 3-4” augers that means inspection well or some sort of sensor insertion.

if theyre drilling an inspection well, that mens they suspect water is going UNDER THE DAM.

that’s bad.
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I was expecting this...

ALL webcams DOWN

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No, this one still working.

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
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I demand an evergreen re-pine AHMEDIATELY!!
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I tried to use my karma pin it but was unable to so.
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They really want us to STFU...
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Oroville Main Spillway not being used amid increased rainfall

The Oroville CHP tweeted information about increased water releases. It said Thursday at 7 a.m., DWR is expected to start increasing flows through the Hyatt Power Plant into the Feather River.

The releases will be increased by 250 cubic feet per second every two hours.

[link to krcrtv.com (secure)]
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Why in the fuck is this coming from the CHP and not DWR???
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Good question! No, GREAT question!

Nice observation
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hmmm maybe thats why CHP an DOJ paid annoying bad hair cut fullerton tou tube guy a visit...
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what were the details of that? I tried to find out more but could not.
Sounds like they are trying to encroach on peoples freedom of press with the watchgroup injunction and not that.
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webcams were down for a bit but are back up
[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
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Midwest....is there any more significant snow melt in the next week to ten days? If so, how does that increase your projected scenario? Thanks.
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Crunch could probably answer this better than I can since he is there and knows the terrain in the watershed better I, who have only visited the area over the years and am 2000 miles away, ... but ... the snow melt run off has been very very consistent for 3+ weeks now, starting in that 12,000 - 13,500 cf/s range and steadily declining to the recent 9,500 - 10,500 cf/s range. That is exactly what you would expect this time of year as the lower level snow melts off and the upper level snow continues to melt at a steady rate.

I would anticipate that the basic snow melt would hold fairly steady but with some uptick.

COLD temps are now invading the region along with the rain and that should result in some increase melt caused by rain water melting some of the snow that is left at the lower elevations (much of it now gone) but a lessening of the temperature and sun heating melt dynamic for the snow at the higher elevations. Those dynamics, this time, should at least partially balance out the rain snow melt dynamic, enough so imo that it will NOT be a major factor wrt the lake filling.

The amount of rain that is falling on the watershed will have by far the biggest impact on downstream water flows going into Lake Oroville.

Maybe Crunch can weigh in here since he is a long time resident of the area.

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Revising my rv doom call, I took extra peyote an DMT, the elves are sayin Oroville turns into Niagra Falls on Monday morning...
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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Does anyone know definitively what is being done with this auger seen here?:

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
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Are they possibly looking for the stream of piping, this auger is just across from the hole dug by the back hoe last night. Maybe trying to block some of the underground flow?
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This is exactly SOME of what is going on.. and its not going to work. May in fact make it worse...
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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Maybe also in a effort to create somewhat bigger leaks because there is NO way at present to drain the dam.. and it must be drained.. its going to blow otherwise.
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Midwest....is there any more significant snow melt in the next week to ten days? If so, how does that increase your projected scenario? Thanks.
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Crunch could probably answer this better than I can since he is there and knows the terrain in the watershed better I, who have only visited the area over the years and am 2000 miles away, ... but ... the snow melt run off has been very very consistent for 3+ weeks now, starting in that 12,000 - 13,500 cf/s range and steadily declining to the recent 9,500 - 10,500 cf/s range. That is exactly what you would expect this time of year as the lower level snow melts off and the upper level snow continues to melt at a steady rate.

I would anticipate that the basic snow melt would hold fairly steady but with some uptick.

COLD temps are now invading the region along with the rain and that should result in some increase melt caused by rain water melting some of the snow that is left at the lower elevations (much of it now gone) but a lessening of the temperature and sun heating melt dynamic for the snow at the higher elevations. Those dynamics, this time, should at least partially balance out the rain snow melt dynamic, enough so imo that it will NOT be a major factor wrt the lake filling.

The amount of rain that is falling on the watershed will have by far the biggest impact on downstream water flows going into Lake Oroville.

Maybe Crunch can weigh in here since he is a long time resident of the area.
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Can anyone iffer an explanation as to why it was necessary to run a backhoe all night last night in the rain at the bottom of the dam?

Doesnt seem prudent to be digging holes in the base a dirt berm holding back a tectiliion hactares of agua...in a storm
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which part of this? The actual constructed dam OR somewhere on the hill on which the spillways exist?
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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Maybe also in a effort to create somewhat bigger leaks because there is NO way at present to drain the dam.. and it must be drained.. its going to blow otherwise.
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I’ve been a Const project mager for 25 years, the ONLY reason for a drill rig like that on a jobsite is for blasting. They are actively drilling RIGHT NOW.
There is a remote possibility they are drilling anchor holes for some sort of retaining wall, but the machine you see there right now, is used 99% of the time for BLASTING.
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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Maybe also in a effort to create somewhat bigger leaks because there is NO way at present to drain the dam.. and it must be drained.. its going to blow otherwise.
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I’ve been a Const project mager for 25 years, the ONLY reason for a drill rig like that on a jobsite is for blasting. They are actively drilling RIGHT NOW.
There is a remote possibility they are drilling anchor holes for some sort of retaining wall, but the machine you see there right now, is used 99% of the time for BLASTING.
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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Maybe also in a effort to create somewhat bigger leaks because there is NO way at present to drain the dam.. and it must be drained.. its going to blow otherwise.
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There is someone who has been posting on the 3 way you tube that they have built something significantly low enough to pipe the water to some place else.. but my source says no way.. its not possible at this time... to put something low enough to do that...and the person putting out the rumor says its in the middle of the reservoir... which they do not show. Just interesting anyway. I know the names of this stuff but it evades me today.
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THIS IS GONNA MAKE NEW ORLEANS LOOK LIKE A M80 toilet overflow!
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Paul Preston and Mr. Bea says this dam is in SERIOUS disrepair, NOT maintained and the earth is crumbling beneath!!
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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Maybe also in a effort to create somewhat bigger leaks because there is NO way at present to drain the dam.. and it must be drained.. its going to blow otherwise.
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I’ve been a Const project mager for 25 years, the ONLY reason for a drill rig like that on a jobsite is for blasting. They are actively drilling RIGHT NOW.
There is a remote possibility they are drilling anchor holes for some sort of retaining wall, but the machine you see there right now, is used 99% of the time for BLASTING.
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Thankyou. hf And where is the drilling rig sitting?
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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I posed this question about an hour ago as to the reason for the auger drill rig?
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Precipitation totals


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Talking to some Kiewit guys right now, in an untelated job inan disclosed location in a comfy job trailer.. They say blasting, remote possibility their gonna try to inject grout under super high pressure....
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Paul Preston and Mr. Bea says this dam is in SERIOUS disrepair, NOT maintained and the earth is crumbling beneath!!
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This is FACT and my source KNOWS. It cannot be saved... the crumbling is due in part of the nature of the base to begin with.. it was not a good place to put a dam... but if it was going to be built... the dam itself which is 770 feet should never have been built over 500 feet. Its the exponential water pressure that is heavier where the water is deeper.. always.. We played with this when I took calculus a long time ago.
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The whole Dam is a crime scene.
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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Maybe also in a effort to create somewhat bigger leaks because there is NO way at present to drain the dam.. and it must be drained.. its going to blow otherwise.
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I’ve been a Const project mager for 25 years, the ONLY reason for a drill rig like that on a jobsite is for blasting. They are actively drilling RIGHT NOW.
There is a remote possibility they are drilling anchor holes for some sort of retaining wall, but the machine you see there right now, is used 99% of the time for BLASTING.
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IN YOUR OPINION, WHY WOULD THEY BE BLASTING?
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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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I posed this question about an hour ago as to the reason for the auger drill rig?
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An “auger” infers a larger hole, an auger is used only in dirt, think post hole digger or on a kiewit job, big caisons (deep cylindrical foots/piles).

That is a rock DRILL uses percussion bits NOT AN AUGER!
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webcams were down for a bit but are back up
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This looks like a piece of equipment has been overturned...

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Just saw this that was posted and it seems very likely. "Are they possibly looking for the stream of piping, this auger is just across from the hole dug by the back hoe last night. Maybe trying to block some of the underground flow?"

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Listen up I can see on the WebCam right now that is a drill rig that set up for blasting they’re drilling holes today!!!! typically when demolitions her or a shot is plant is called a shot will drill the day before and they blast the second day that is definitely a demolition drill rig preparing for more blasting why would you be blasting at the bottom of a full damn??????
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I posed this question about an hour ago as to the reason for the auger drill rig?
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An “auger” infers a larger hole, an auger is used only in dirt, think post hole digger or on a kiewit job, big caisons (deep cylindrical foots/piles).

That is a rock DRILL uses percussion bits NOT AN AUGER!
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Ok this says something to me... because I used to use percussion drills to drill concrete and such ... This also at this size would be shaking stuff quite a bit... just the drilling.





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